Liberals Think We're Jerks For Wanting To Control Spending

[danielpalos]

It means, being Taxed according to what one is Worth under Any form of Capitalism and not Equal under Any form of Socialism.

So you should pay a tax based on your net worth?

Adam Smith was fine with that. Now what?

Wrong. Adam Smith never said any such thing.

I never said he did; why are you diverting. forgot your clue and your Cause?

 

[danielpalos]

Our federal Congress is delegated the power to Tax, to pay the Debts, and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States. And, not Only that, we also have a Commerce Clause.

And nothing in YOUR post changes the fact that the left refuses to understand that this {all men are created equal] refers to equity in the eyes of the law, not equity is income, living arrangements, health care and internet access.
You guys really need to try harder.

socialism can claim equality due that social concept, not that capital concept. you may recognize it when the right uses it to advocate for "social justice" for the wealthiest, regarding equality in Taxation.

Do you know what "equality in taxation" is?

Well, I know it is not "being Taxed what one is Worth, under Any form of Capitalism".

So you don't know. That wasn't an answer.

I know Equality is a Social concept and most definitely, not a Capital concept.

 

[bripat9643]

It means, being Taxed according to what one is Worth under Any form of Capitalism and not Equal under Any form of Socialism.

So you should pay a tax based on your net worth?

Adam Smith was fine with that. Now what?

Wrong. Adam Smith never said any such thing.

I never said he did; why are you diverting. forgot your clue and your Cause?

He just claim Adam Smith agree with his proposition.

Where did Adam Smith ever do that?

 

[bripat9643]

And nothing in YOUR post changes the fact that the left refuses to understand that this {all men are created equal] refers to equity in the eyes of the law, not equity is income, living arrangements, health care and internet access.
You guys really need to try harder.

socialism can claim equality due that social concept, not that capital concept. you may recognize it when the right uses it to advocate for "social justice" for the wealthiest, regarding equality in Taxation.

Do you know what "equality in taxation" is?

Well, I know it is not "being Taxed what one is Worth, under Any form of Capitalism".

So you don't know. That wasn't an answer.

I know Equality is a Social concept and most definitely, not a Capital concept.

There's no such thing as a "capital concept."

 

[Wry Catcher]

Democrats are just trying to save the country from disastrous GOP policies.

Oh look... an outright lie from a mindless partisan bigot.
Who would have guessed?

The liberal conception of saving the country is spending like there's no tomorrow.

The tea party idiocy is the concept that repairing a leaky roof (note: leaky roof is our nations infrastructure, clarity provided for the concrete thinkers) and preparing for floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and earthquakes is less important than cutting spending preparing for such certain realities.

Only the brain damaged pretend they don't know that the vast bulk of all federal spending goes to provide sustenance for ticks on the ass of society. Infrastructure and emergency spending constitute a minute fraction of the total. We could get more than enough to fund those teo categories solely by getting rid of crop subsidies.

When the members of the H. of Rep. vote to cut their salary and benefits, we will know that the growing debt is a serious problem.

Duh . . . wrong. The country could declare bankruptcy and the politicians would still decline to cut their salaries. In fact, they would probably claim they need to be paid more. You obviously have no understanding of how government actually works. Everything you think you know is a myth.

The best sign of a leader is one who leads, unless and until Boehner and McConnell take the courageous action to keep their members in session until they cut their income and benefits, and begin to solve the real problems facing our country today, we will continue the partisan bull shit which will become angrier and less productive as the months pass.

You're just one vast geyser of horseshit.

You sir are a callous conservative, self righteous, and have no ability to think outside the box of the right wing's propaganda and talking points.

 

[Wry Catcher]

bripat is a perfect example of why I believe my border collie is smarter than a conservative.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

bripat is a perfect example of why I believe my border collie is smarter than a conservative.

Hmm...sounds like you ran out of arguments so we're getting the sludge from the bottom of your barrel. That means you lose.

 

[danielpalos]

socialism can claim equality due that social concept, not that capital concept. you may recognize it when the right uses it to advocate for "social justice" for the wealthiest, regarding equality in Taxation.

Do you know what "equality in taxation" is?

Well, I know it is not "being Taxed what one is Worth, under Any form of Capitalism".

So you don't know. That wasn't an answer.

I know Equality is a Social concept and most definitely, not a Capital concept.

There's no such thing as a "capital concept."

of course there is; you merely need a clue and a Cause.

 

[boedicca]

bripat is a perfect example of why I believe my border collie is smarter than a conservative.

Hmm...sounds like you ran out of arguments so we're getting the sludge from the bottom of your barrel. That means you lose.

Sludge is all WC ever slings. He/she/it is a veritable cesspool of ideological talking points.

 

[Wry Catcher]

bripat is a perfect example of why I believe my border collie is smarter than a conservative.

Hmm...sounds like you ran out of arguments so we're getting the sludge from the bottom of your barrel. That means you lose.

LOL, it's not a race, there is no winner or loser in a pissing contest, and a pissing contest is the only thing bripat and you engage. Anything of substance, which requires some knowledge of history and the ability to compose a concise argument, is beyond the ability of you and he.

Don't feel bad, you're not alone. CrusaderFrank, Stephanie, Mudwhistle, Boedicca, Rabbi, keys and many more all exist on the same plain, stuck in the same box and framed by the same dogma.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

bripat is a perfect example of why I believe my border collie is smarter than a conservative.

Hmm...sounds like you ran out of arguments so we're getting the sludge from the bottom of your barrel. That means you lose.

LOL, it's not a race, there is no winner or loser in a pissing contest, and a pissing contest is the only thing bripat and you engage. Anything of substance, which requires some knowledge of history and the ability to compose a concise argument, is beyond the ability of you and he.

Don't feel bad, you're not alone. CrusaderFrank, Stephanie, Mudwhistle, Boedicca, Rabbi, keys and many more all exist on the same plain, stuck in the same box and framed by the same dogma.

Still nothing. The sack is empty. Have you always been an underachiever? Did you eat the marshmallow?

You wolfed that thing right down, didn't you?

 

[ScienceRocks]

We've been investing in infrastructure, science and r&d since the early 19th century. During the 50's, 60's and 70's we spent far more on them. They never caused anything close to the debt we're going through now. Does that tell you something?

 

[mikegriffith1]

Yet I bet these same liberals would never run their personal finances the way Obama and Congressional Democrats have been running federal finances.

It's insane that when any Republican leader proposes very modest spending cuts, Democrats engage in the most reckless, dishonest demagoguery. Just look at the absurd commercials they ran about the Ryan Budget in 2012. That budget merely called for slowing the growth of spending, yet Democrats ran commercials showing a granny in a wheelchair being rolled over a cliff.

It's just irresponsible and dishonest, and this demagoguery is proving to be a major roadblock to returning to fiscal sanity.

 

[Wry Catcher]

We've been investing in infrastructure, science and r&d since the early 19th century. During the 50's, 60's and 70's we spent far more on them. They never caused anything close to the debt we're going through now. Does that tell you something?

It tells me our priorities are wrong. Infrastructure and commerce are interrelated - especially when the products purchased to build, repair or maintain bridges, overpasses, roads, pipelines, canals, levees, power lines, public transportation, rail roads, runways, piers, etc. are purchased from American companies using American labor.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Yet I bet these same liberals would never run their personal finances the way Obama and Congressional Democrats have been running federal finances.

It's insane that any Republican leader proposes very modest spending cuts, Democrats engage in the most reckless, dishonest demagoguery. Just look at the absurd commercials they ran about the Ryan Budget in 2012. That budget merely called for slowing the growth of spending, yet Democrats ran commercials showing a granny in a wheelchair being rolled over a cliff.

It's just irresponsible and dishonest, and this demagoguery is proving to be a major roadblock to returning to fiscal sanity.

See my post above for fiscal sanity.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Yet I bet these same liberals would never run their personal finances the way Obama and Congressional Democrats have been running federal finances.

It's insane that any Republican leader proposes very modest spending cuts, Democrats engage in the most reckless, dishonest demagoguery. Just look at the absurd commercials they ran about the Ryan Budget in 2012. That budget merely called for slowing the growth of spending, yet Democrats ran commercials showing a granny in a wheelchair being rolled over a cliff.

It's just irresponsible and dishonest, and this demagoguery is proving to be a major roadblock to returning to fiscal sanity.

It reminds me of the 1990's when the Republicans' proposed increase to the federal school lunch program was less than the Democrats' proposed increase, so they sounded the alarm, shrill and recurring, that Republicans were CUTTING lunches for children.

There isn't an honest person among them.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Yet I bet these same liberals would never run their personal finances the way Obama and Congressional Democrats have been running federal finances.

It's insane that any Republican leader proposes very modest spending cuts, Democrats engage in the most reckless, dishonest demagoguery. Just look at the absurd commercials they ran about the Ryan Budget in 2012. That budget merely called for slowing the growth of spending, yet Democrats ran commercials showing a granny in a wheelchair being rolled over a cliff.

It's just irresponsible and dishonest, and this demagoguery is proving to be a major roadblock to returning to fiscal sanity.

It reminds me of the 1990's when the Republicans' proposed increase to the federal school lunch program was less than the Democrats' proposed increase, so they sounded the alarm, shrill and recurring, that Republicans were CUTTING lunches for children.

There isn't an honest person among them.

You're not lying by omission, are you? My take on your post is that the cost to provide the same lunch menu had increased 5-fold, and the Republicans wanted to raise the the budged of the school lunch program 2-fold.

 

[bripat9643]

Do you know what "equality in taxation" is?

Well, I know it is not "being Taxed what one is Worth, under Any form of Capitalism".

So you don't know. That wasn't an answer.

I know Equality is a Social concept and most definitely, not a Capital concept.

There's no such thing as a "capital concept."

of course there is; you merely need a clue and a Cause.

Please provide an example.

 

[Kosh]

We've been investing in infrastructure, science and r&d since the early 19th century. During the 50's, 60's and 70's we spent far more on them. They never caused anything close to the debt we're going through now. Does that tell you something?

It tells me our priorities are wrong. Infrastructure and commerce are interrelated - especially when the products purchased to build, repair or maintain bridges, overpasses, roads, pipelines, canals, levees, power lines, public transportation, rail roads, runways, piers, etc. are purchased from American companies using American labor.

And yet by your own examples the far left is against infrastructure as they continue to deny Keystone being finished.

Thus if you want infrastructure do NOT vote far left, voting far left is never the answer..

 

[bripat9643]

We've been investing in infrastructure, science and r&d since the early 19th century. During the 50's, 60's and 70's we spent far more on them. They never caused anything close to the debt we're going through now. Does that tell you something?

The federal government has only been "investing" in science and infrastructure since WW II, and we have run a deficit the entire time.