MAGA, Truth Serum

[Mac1958]

Are you this drunk before lunch time?????

They've sold their soul to this person and take any criticism of him as a personal attack.

It's as if you're assaulting their golden child. This is a cult.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

No it is white American Conservatives that oppose anything that will reduce carbon emissions because they are scientific and economic morons being exploited the the owners of the fossil fuel industries.

You're parroting proven lies and propaganda and you expect us to take you seriously.

No, EV's are exponentially worse for the environment and ecosystems. Just complete devastation.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

^
Obvious projection.

This pathetic gaslighting won't work.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

It would be helpful if we

The keyword, here, being "we".

For you, the "we" in 2016 referred to those in the D.N.C. wanting to take down Bernie since he was a threat to the establishment. Today, it is those wanting to take down Trump for the same reason.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The keyword, here, being "we".

For you, the "we" in 2016 referred to those in the D.N.C. wanting to take down Bernie since he was a threat to the establishment. Today, it is those wanting to take down Trump for the same reason.

All nonsense. Bernie was passed over because he could not win. Too many squealing dummies in this country that don't understand the word "socialism".

And it's paranoid stupidity. Trump went on a crime spree. Blame Trump for committing the felonies.

 

[Mac1958]

The keyword, here, being "we".

For you, the "we" in 2016 referred to those in the D.N.C. wanting to take down Bernie since he was a threat to the establishment.

They have their own reality.

 

[whitehall]

Republicans should take "Truth serum"? Maybe if lefties lefties stop drinking the cool-aid.

 

[MarathonMike]

It would be helpful if we could inject some candor into our politics right about now. In all seriousness, I think that if hardcore Trump supporters drank some truth serum and you asked them about this, they would respond with something like:

"I don't care about the law. America is so far gone that the only way to save it is by breaking any laws that need to be broken to save it. Even if we have to ignore the Constitution temporarily. The Left has beaten us, and we can't figure out how to recover. So fuck it. I support Trump & Co. doing whatever it takes, no matter what laws are broken. It's Hail Mary Pass time. This is it".

Y'know what? I could actually respect that. I disagree with it, I think there are better answers, but I can at least respect it. But I can't respect this constant, weaselly spin and deflection and fantasy and paranoia and bullshit.

What MAGA means to Trump voters

Reuters-Ipsos asked Trump voters what "Make America Great Again" (MAGA) meant to them. The bars below represent the percentage of respondents who associated the MAGA movement with the following things.Reuters-Ipsos asked Trump voters what "Make America Great Again" (MAGA) meant to them. The bars...

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Your Democratic Party shredded the Constitution and has made a mockery out of the US Justice System.

 

[Mac1958]

You just agreed with the OP

That's because I'm right.

Their behaviors in response have proven that.

They should just be honest.

 

[Mac1958]

Your Democratic Party

Where does Mac1958 actually stand on the issues?

 

[Rigby5]

It would be helpful if we could inject some candor into our politics right about now. In all seriousness, I think that if hardcore Trump supporters drank some truth serum and you asked them about this, they would respond with something like:

"I don't care about the law. America is so far gone that the only way to save it is by breaking any laws that need to be broken to save it. Even if we have to ignore the Constitution temporarily. The Left has beaten us, and we can't figure out how to recover. So fuck it. I support Trump & Co. doing whatever it takes, no matter what laws are broken. It's Hail Mary Pass time. This is it".

Y'know what? I could actually respect that. I disagree with it, I think there are better answers, but I can at least respect it. But I can't respect this constant, weaselly spin and deflection and fantasy and paranoia and bullshit.

What MAGA means to Trump voters

Reuters-Ipsos asked Trump voters what "Make America Great Again" (MAGA) meant to them. The bars below represent the percentage of respondents who associated the MAGA movement with the following things.Reuters-Ipsos asked Trump voters what "Make America Great Again" (MAGA) meant to them. The bars...

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Sorry, but that is fake.
I do not like Trump at all, but his side is the ultimate "law and order" side and that is what I dislike about it.
They believe you can make laws about things like abortion, drugs, alcohol, wars, economic embargoes, supporting dictator coups, invading other countries, etc., that I think are inherently illegal.

The democrats who claim Trump side broke the law are just lying.
It is not illegal to ask Kyiv to investigate Burisma Holdings, and it is illegal to NOT investigate it since it is so obviously illegal. What was illegal was Joe getting Shokin fired in 2014.
It is not illegal to protest against voter fraud, regardless of whether there was significant voter fraud or not.
It is not illegal for presidents to retain copies of classified docs if they want.
It is not illegal for loan applicants to guess whatever they want as to property value.
Alternate elector fraud is absolutely impossible, since electors vote in a public state legislature session.

This thread is an artsy way of lying and claiming the republicans are liars, when the reality is that the democrats are the liars.
The very thing I do not like about the republicans is that they are way too "law and order".
Most of the laws in this country should be struck down as illegal.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I hate no one. Since you follow my posts so carefully, you know I've said this is not even about him. About a thousand times.

You are a liar. The TDS is yours. That is a shame.

I rarely talk about Trump at all.
And when I do - it is usually not positive. Just ask all of my fellow conservatives who bash me for doing it.
Trump was not a terrible President at all. And he wasn't a great one either.

 

[Rigby5]

They've never been able to accept the fact that so many Americans don't adore their orange buffoon like they do.

They keep trying to change the subject here, which is always a good sign.

Wrong.
One can still dislike Trump but still realize that trying to charge him with fake crimes is outright insurrection, sedition, and treason.
There is nothing remotely valid about a single charge against Trump.
In fact, even the civil cases, like Jean Carroll are ridiculously invalid.
Jean offered to model lingerie while naked.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"Counties" don't vote - people vote. Biden won the votes of the PEOPLE.

80% of the American people live in cities, not in rural areas. You cannot run a modern, industrialized nation where 80% of the voters live in cities, based on the votes of a handful of people living in rural areas, but that is exactly how your Constitution was written.

That's because the USA was originally a small coastal aggrarian nation, and your Founders owned large tracts of land where no voters lived. They didn't want your government dominated by people from the cities who don't understand the needs of your economy.

Now your government is dominated by people from rural areas who have been brainwashed into thinking that all cities are "hellholes" run by corrupt minorities, who want to destroy the nation.

But supposedly Biden received 81,LOL,LOL votes from Americans, right? And real living Americans live in all counties, right?

How does someone receive 52% of the "vote" but only "win" 16% of the counties and only 5% of the Bellwether counties?

“We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.

 

[otto105]

^
Obvious projection.

Hardly, it’s common knowledge. Maga fuckups say it all the time. It’s part of their it’s only a constitutional republic argument.

It’s the only way they can rule as a white minority.

 

[otto105]

Wrong.
One can still dislike Trump but still realize that trying to charge him with fake crimes is outright insurrection, sedition, and treason.
There is nothing remotely valid about a single charge against Trump.
In fact, even the civil cases, like Jean Carroll are ridiculously invalid.
Jean offered to model lingerie while naked.

4 indictments and 91 charges handed down by citizens of the US disagree.

 

[Rigby5]

Where does Mac1958 actually stand on the issues?

Which is why I suppose I disagree with you.
All your positions are very conservative and rigid, and opposite of what I believe in.

But that is why I prefer Trump over conservatives.
Trump did not start a single war, while conservatives want to invade any country they can get an excuse to abuse.

 

[Mac1958]

4 indictments and 91 charges handed down by citizens of the US disagree.

According to the rubes, they're all lies.

Even though a parade of Republicans, staffers, employees and lawyers will testify under oath to them.

 

[otto105]

But supposedly Biden received 81,LOL,LOL votes from Americans, right? And real living Americans live in all counties, right?

How does someone receive 52% of the "vote" but only "win" 16% of the counties and only 5% of the Bellwether counties?

“We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.

Not supposedly, but by 50-State Certification.

Dude, overlay that county map over population centers and you will have your answer fuckup.

 

[Faun]

No, the south was democrat. There was no magical shape shifting going on. Lincoln and the north were republicans. You're not gonna revise history.

They were Democrats. They were also conservative, religious Christians.