Marijuana

[Zander]

Pot has been demonized so effectively that it may take an entire generation before it is fully accepted.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Criminalizing personal marijuana use is a moronic waste of time, money, and life.

Using marijuana is a moronic waste of time, money, and life.

yea lots of things are like that.....alcohol,cigarettes,eating way to much,being on the internet to long,watching every sporting event you can find,watching to much TV....yea lots of things are a waste of time,money and life....but its your life, time and money.....as long as you are not hurting someone.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Funny how the freedom fighting hater dupes are violently against this...and choice in many ways...

It's just that most of us know so many potheads who never were in pain but hold medical marijuana licenses. These people use it as a crutch to get through their own reality.

well that problem can be solved very easily.....but i bet they wont do it....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Pot has been demonized so effectively that it may take an entire generation before it is fully accepted.

i hear ya Zander, but there are an awful lot of people out there who know better....not that many are as clueless and paranoid as katz is..

 

[Harry Dresden]

Personally I think they should legalize it and the govt should tax it and regulate it like they do tobacco.

Money to be made there for the Govt and no more folks in jail for having marijuana.

I also don't care if people smoke pot in the privacy of their homes.

As for the medical deal? Not sure if it even works as those who advocate it say that it does.

Right now Florida is voting on whether or not to legalize medical marijuana.

I've never smoked pot of done drugs. To me you might as well put your money in a pile and set a match to it.

I have much better things to spend my money on.

As for the medical deal? Not sure if it even works as those who advocate it say that it does.

i guess you will never know unless you get the cancer or epilepsy...i have seen the results with an epileptic....it works.....and i delivered mail to 2 cancer people whose caretakers as well as them told me...."that fucking stuff really helps with nausea"....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Users should be shot on sight. They are as worthless as any other walking dead.

You want to have a show-down in the street?

I'll beat you to the draw stoned, fool.

Shot on sight means you would never see it coming. As it should be. Put down the bong and think for once.

why dont you put down your Vodka and start thinking yourself....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Users should be shot on sight. They are as worthless as any other walking dead.

You want to have a show-down in the street?

I'll beat you to the draw stoned, fool.

Shot on sight means you would never see it coming. As it should be. Put down the bong and think for once.

Ah, another internet tough guy.

BTW, I don't bong.

Katz is like other drinkers.....alcohol braveness.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Addicts have endless reasons and excuses to keep using. There is no doubt that someone who believes they will be terribly sick if they don't get their drug of choice will be terribly sick if denied.

its the same way with you alcoholics.....so dont act like you are any different.....the only difference is....you get violent and want to shoot other people for doing the drug of their choice.....you are a danger to society ....pot smokers not so much...

 

[Dana7360]

Thank you DLucia.

I'm lucky. I live in Washington state where we legalized medical marijuana in the 1998 election. Then we legalized it for all adults in the 2012 election.

I can just go up the street from my home and buy my medicine. It's close and easy to obtain.

I was unlucky enough to have been diagnosed with a very deadly form of breast cancer. Carcinoma that was 100% receptive to my own body hormones. Which means that my own body hormones was it's food to grow. Millions of women died from it because our own body chemistry is it's food. It was found, the women had it removed but it came back and killed them. Which is exactly what happened to 4 of my relatives before me.

I'm very lucky in that we now have a way to block those hormones so that the cancer won't return and kill. Studies are now finding that women like me can never go off that medication. It will return and kill me if I don't take that medication. I'm like many women who have the side effect that it causes a weak stomach and most food makes me sick. Without the medical marijuana almost nothing would stay in me. So instead of being a size 1 as I am now, I would now be totally emaciated or dead. There's another drug that blocks the hormones but it causes heart fibulations. I have a deadly allergy to mold and bees. Both will cause antifilaxis. Which kills without an epipen. My throat closes, my lungs collapse and my heart goes very fast. Without that epipen when it stops going very fast it stops completely and I die. So if I took that other medication I could die from heart fibulations.

I'm stuck between that infamous rock and a hard place. So I take the lessor of the two evils. I would rather have problems with keeping food in me than being dead. The medical marijuana makes it possible for me to be able to take that medication that's preventing that cancer from returning and killing me.

If you want to use my story to tell people in your area please send me a private message and I'll provide you with all the information you need. There's millions of people suffering because medical marijuana isn't available in their area.

No one should be made into a criminal just for fighting to save their life.

That would be a horrible situation to be in, thanks for sharing the story. When I hear stories like that I wonder why science can't isolate the medicinal qualities of pot and mass market it. I would definitely choose the get stoned over dying but would prefer the best of both worlds, lucid and healthy.

I don't want to have to smoke marijuana for the rest of my life. I see it as a necessary evil. I've taken all the pills but they don't work.

A drug company did develop a pharmaceutical form of marijuana. It's called marinol. I tried that too. It made me so high I couldn't function. It's timed release so that when the high wears off, that time release kicks back in and I'm back to being so high I can't function.

It's much easier to just take a few hits off a pipe. It doesn't take much and the food stays in my stomach. I don't get super high, in fact I barely get high at all. I'll take that over being dead any day.

 

[Zander]

Thank you DLucia.

I'm lucky. I live in Washington state where we legalized medical marijuana in the 1998 election. Then we legalized it for all adults in the 2012 election.

I can just go up the street from my home and buy my medicine. It's close and easy to obtain.

I was unlucky enough to have been diagnosed with a very deadly form of breast cancer. Carcinoma that was 100% receptive to my own body hormones. Which means that my own body hormones was it's food to grow. Millions of women died from it because our own body chemistry is it's food. It was found, the women had it removed but it came back and killed them. Which is exactly what happened to 4 of my relatives before me.

I'm very lucky in that we now have a way to block those hormones so that the cancer won't return and kill. Studies are now finding that women like me can never go off that medication. It will return and kill me if I don't take that medication. I'm like many women who have the side effect that it causes a weak stomach and most food makes me sick. Without the medical marijuana almost nothing would stay in me. So instead of being a size 1 as I am now, I would now be totally emaciated or dead. There's another drug that blocks the hormones but it causes heart fibulations. I have a deadly allergy to mold and bees. Both will cause antifilaxis. Which kills without an epipen. My throat closes, my lungs collapse and my heart goes very fast. Without that epipen when it stops going very fast it stops completely and I die. So if I took that other medication I could die from heart fibulations.

I'm stuck between that infamous rock and a hard place. So I take the lessor of the two evils. I would rather have problems with keeping food in me than being dead. The medical marijuana makes it possible for me to be able to take that medication that's preventing that cancer from returning and killing me.

If you want to use my story to tell people in your area please send me a private message and I'll provide you with all the information you need. There's millions of people suffering because medical marijuana isn't available in their area.

No one should be made into a criminal just for fighting to save their life.

That would be a horrible situation to be in, thanks for sharing the story. When I hear stories like that I wonder why science can't isolate the medicinal qualities of pot and mass market it. I would definitely choose the get stoned over dying but would prefer the best of both worlds, lucid and healthy.

I don't want to have to smoke marijuana for the rest of my life. I see it as a necessary evil. I've taken all the pills but they don't work.

A drug company did develop a pharmaceutical form of marijuana. It's called marinol. I tried that too. It made me so high I couldn't function. It's timed release so that when the high wears off, that time release kicks back in and I'm back to being so high I can't function.

It's much easier to just take a few hits off a pipe. It doesn't take much and the food stays in my stomach. I don't get super high, in fact I barely get high at all. I'll take that over being dead any day.

Buy a good vaporizer. No smoke, no smell, easy to use.

 

[Silhouette]

I repeat. The OP just joined up at USMB yesterday. Yesterday Maddow did a "get out the pot vote" in Colorado [and the rest of the country into smoking pot openly or on the down low].

It's a puzzle. The topic here isn't pot. It's next Tuesday.

 

[DLucia]

Secondly, there are studies that show hemp fights cancer. Not many, but a few.

But nothing else is shown to fight Cancer..................so why are we stalling on the research? Big Government.

Further evidence that cannabis reduces tumor growth in new study
Further evidence that cannabis reduces tumor growth in new study - Medical News Today

The main psychoactive ingredient in cannabis - tetrahydrocannabinol - could be used to reduce tumor growth in cancer patients, according to an international research team.
Previous studies have suggested that cannabinoids, of which tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is one, have anti-cancer properties. In 2009, researchers at Complutense University in Spain found that THC induced the death of brain cancer cells in a process known as "autophagy."

When human tumors in mice were targeted with doses of THC, the researchers found that two cell receptors were particularly associated with an anti-tumor response.
The researchers found that administering THC to mice with human tumors initiated autophagy and caused the growth of the tumors to decrease. Two human patients with highly aggressive brain tumors who received intracranial administration of THC also showed similar signs of autophagy, upon analysis.

Nope, it's true. I have had folks tell me they don't believe it. They think it just fights the effects of chemo, that it doesn't actually fight cancer. But that is just the whole point here. The medical establishment is about TREATING cancer. Anything that will ever have a chance to CURE cancer is forbidden. That is why this plant will forever remain federally banned. It runs against the whole medical establishments paradigm of a death care industry.

Hell, the government just had a whole coup d'état in taking over the industry, the last thing they are going to do is cure one of two major diseases that give their donors bucket loads of cash. CASH MEANS POWER. That cash comes at the deaths of Americans. Career politicians NEED those deaths, they need Americans PAYING THOSE MEDICAL BILLS. Treating illness makes more money than curing disease. Career politicians need cancer and they need death.

So as long as they can keep the secret that marijuana cures cancer, and stop research on we can get it to most effectively delivered and treat cancer? Then politicians will keep their money and their power. Americans dying means the health care system will stay rich, and by proxy, the political parasites will stay powerful.

But we are Americans right? are we not? America. The place where if the citizens didn't agree with a law, it should be changed. Isn't that why people move to America from other places... To fight for what they believe in..?

 

[DLucia]

I've been around pot heads and their devastated families for over 30 years. It's a mercy when they finally stroke out. As long as they haven't taken too many with them when they go. There are two pot shops a block from here. I love it when one of them wanders onto Wilshire and gets creamed. Let someone else call 911.

My family is not devastated by marijuana.

My family was devastated by the diagnosis of breast cancer that I received a few years ago. My daughter was so devastated her skin turned so white that below her eyes were all black. She could barely breathe. She had gone through my dad who had liver cancer and knew that it kills. My daughter was 12 years old when I had to tell her I had cancer. If you've ever had to look into the eyes of your child and tell them you have cancer you would know how stupid your post is about marijuana.

Marijuana is making it possible for my child to still have her mother. If it were up to you my daughter wouldn't have her mother anymore.

People like you make me so disgusted.

People like you, Dana7360, are the people the government should focus on. Not the abusers that so many call pot heads because people will abuse anything no matter what time or century we are in. I've read about all types of disease marijuana treats and how it saves lives, but it still is a struggle for some patients to get a safe legal prescription in the state they live. I live in North Carolina and it is still considered illegal but there is a law on the November ballot to support it in hopes of legalization STRICTLY for medical purposes. My role in this is that I'm trying to spread the word by displaying marijuana in its medical form so people can better understand what it is and HOW it saves lives. Maybe more people would understand what good it gives instead of the bad name it has already.

Thank you DLucia.

I'm lucky. I live in Washington state where we legalized medical marijuana in the 1998 election. Then we legalized it for all adults in the 2012 election.

I can just go up the street from my home and buy my medicine. It's close and easy to obtain.

I was unlucky enough to have been diagnosed with a very deadly form of breast cancer. Carcinoma that was 100% receptive to my own body hormones. Which means that my own body hormones was it's food to grow. Millions of women died from it because our own body chemistry is it's food. It was found, the women had it removed but it came back and killed them. Which is exactly what happened to 4 of my relatives before me.

I'm very lucky in that we now have a way to block those hormones so that the cancer won't return and kill. Studies are now finding that women like me can never go off that medication. It will return and kill me if I don't take that medication. I'm like many women who have the side effect that it causes a weak stomach and most food makes me sick. Without the medical marijuana almost nothing would stay in me. So instead of being a size 1 as I am now, I would now be totally emaciated or dead. There's another drug that blocks the hormones but it causes heart fibulations. I have a deadly allergy to mold and bees. Both will cause antifilaxis. Which kills without an epipen. My throat closes, my lungs collapse and my heart goes very fast. Without that epipen when it stops going very fast it stops completely and I die. So if I took that other medication I could die from heart fibulations.

I'm stuck between that infamous rock and a hard place. So I take the lessor of the two evils. I would rather have problems with keeping food in me than being dead. The medical marijuana makes it possible for me to be able to take that medication that's preventing that cancer from returning and killing me.

If you want to use my story to tell people in your area please send me a private message and I'll provide you with all the information you need. There's millions of people suffering because medical marijuana isn't available in their area.

No one should be made into a criminal just for fighting to save their life.

Hmm...the OP joined USMB yesterday. Maddow's Colorado pot piece was aired yesterday.

Wonder if they're related?

Read more here to see if I'm right: Maddow Miracle Motivates Marijuana Vote US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

74% as of this post want pot legalized both for recreational and medical use. Wonder if any of those people think republicans will advance that agenda? Probably not related to next week's midterms.

Kinda weird how that percentage lines up with another poll or two at that website...of people that feel strongly about this or that issue?

i feel pretty soon med pot will be in all 50 States.....the legalizing....the jury is still out on that.....what i want to know is how come all these pot stories are coming out of Colorado?.....why do i not hear anything coming out of Washington?...

Actually, a user named Dana#### (i forgot the 4 digits) is from Washington and posts about her story on this thread.. You should read it, like all stories on here, it amazes me how much marijuana can help people

 

[Moonglow]

Nobody gave a shit about smoking weed until 1922. The same asshole that passed prohibition. The time has come to end the war on MJ and Hemp...Pretty bad when a Ruskie and even the USSR civies could grow hemp and weed for personal consumption...Screw the GD progressives from 100 years ago...

Just stay out of China and Indonesia...

 

[dblack]

Funny how the freedom fighting hater dupes are violently against this...and choice in many ways...

Watch how many 'moderate' Democrats come out against it.

 

[Moonglow]

Funny how the freedom fighting hater dupes are violently against this...and choice in many ways...

Watch how many 'moderate' Democrats come out against it.

Just the uptight ones..Heck I know people in their 60's and 70 and even in their 80's and are puffin'.
Pot is like alcohol in the prohibition era....you can't stop it's importation or domestic production, even after countless billions have been blown trying to....

 

[dblack]

Funny how the freedom fighting hater dupes are violently against this...and choice in many ways...

Watch how many 'moderate' Democrats come out against it.

Just the uptight ones..Heck I know people in their 60's and 70 and even in their 80's and are puffin'.
Pot is like alcohol in the prohibition era....you can't stop it's importation or domestic production, even after countless billions have been blown trying to....

I hear 'ya. But dupehater trying to turn this into a partisan issue is a failure.

 

[Moonglow]

Funny how the freedom fighting hater dupes are violently against this...and choice in many ways...

Watch how many 'moderate' Democrats come out against it.

Just the uptight ones..Heck I know people in their 60's and 70 and even in their 80's and are puffin'.
Pot is like alcohol in the prohibition era....you can't stop it's importation or domestic production, even after countless billions have been blown trying to....

I hear 'ya. But dupehater trying to turn this into a partisan issue is a failure.

Parrots do live at USMB...

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Marijuana is a very controversial topic in our political world today, and I would like to know what our society has to say itabout the way some view it. Some people think it is a Class A drug that is fatal and similar to all the other hard core drugs (i.e. Ecstacy and LSD). But others, like me, know that marijuana is just another plant found in the wilderness that has medical compounds that can help the ill. Yes, marijuana does have psychoactive compounds, but there is no doubt that there are other drugs prescribed by doctors that are more potent. Oxycontin and Morphine are prescribed to patients with chronic pain, but the symptoms are a bit psychoactive. Unlike those drugs, marijuana has a chemical compound called Cannabidiol (CBD) that can be extracted away from the psychoactive compounds in it; such as Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). If there is proof that marijuana has medical purposes then why is it classified as a Class A drug? Yes, it is used as a recreational drug at times, but that does not give an excuse to make it illegal because, unlike alcohol or tobacco, it is not fatal. Marijuana can be harmful in the sense that one can develop lung cancer for smoking it, but there are healthier ways to use marijuana; for instance, cooking it and consuming it. If there are ways to avoid harmful circumstances under marijuana than why shouldn't it be the first drug recommendation to patients? These are things society needs to learn about to fully understand the debate on marijuana. If evidence is not being shown to society then how would any one know what marijuana really is? What are your thoughts and opinions? The link provided is for any one who wants to learn more about marijuana and it's medical purposes by Dr. Sanja Gupta. (copy and paste link)

If the medical argument could be separated from the chronic potheads... I'd be fine with medical applications. But in reality, the medical argument is nothing more than a means to get the pothead nose under the 'legalizing pot' tent.

So... 'No'.

And FTR: I smoked pot dam' near everyday, pot from 14 years old through my late 30s... There was no upside.

 

[Moonglow]

Marijuana is a very controversial topic in our political world today, and I would like to know what our society has to say itabout the way some view it. Some people think it is a Class A drug that is fatal and similar to all the other hard core drugs (i.e. Ecstacy and LSD). But others, like me, know that marijuana is just another plant found in the wilderness that has medical compounds that can help the ill. Yes, marijuana does have psychoactive compounds, but there is no doubt that there are other drugs prescribed by doctors that are more potent. Oxycontin and Morphine are prescribed to patients with chronic pain, but the symptoms are a bit psychoactive. Unlike those drugs, marijuana has a chemical compound called Cannabidiol (CBD) that can be extracted away from the psychoactive compounds in it; such as Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). If there is proof that marijuana has medical purposes then why is it classified as a Class A drug? Yes, it is used as a recreational drug at times, but that does not give an excuse to make it illegal because, unlike alcohol or tobacco, it is not fatal. Marijuana can be harmful in the sense that one can develop lung cancer for smoking it, but there are healthier ways to use marijuana; for instance, cooking it and consuming it. If there are ways to avoid harmful circumstances under marijuana than why shouldn't it be the first drug recommendation to patients? These are things society needs to learn about to fully understand the debate on marijuana. If evidence is not being shown to society then how would any one know what marijuana really is? What are your thoughts and opinions? The link provided is for any one who wants to learn more about marijuana and it's medical purposes by Dr. Sanja Gupta. (copy and paste link)

If the medical argument could be separated from the chronic potheads... I'd be fine with medical applications. But in reality, the medical argument is nothing more than a means to get the pothead nose under the 'legalizing pot' tent.

So... 'No'.

And FTR: I smoked pot dam' near everyday, pot from 14 years old through my late 30s... There was no upside.

Sorry you had a bad trip man...