Mass incarceration. Sessions says- Lock em up, throw away the key.

[dcbl]

I don't think that would be applied equally. We would most likely see a huge number of minorities receiving the max and a huge number of whites benefitting from that wiggle room.

so, basically what we see now...

 

[Aries]

I don't think that would be applied equally. We would most likely see a huge number of minorities receiving the max and a huge number of whites benefitting from that wiggle room.

so, basically what we see now...

Yes.

 

[koshergrl]

"The move is a reversal of ex-President Barack Obama's policy to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes.

It means we are going to meet our responsibility to enforce the law with judgment and fairness," Mr Sessions said on Friday. "It is simply the right and moral thing to do."

Mr Sessions' predecessor, Eric Holder, had instructed prosecutors in 2013 to avoid pursuing the maximum punishment for criminals in cases such as minor drug offences, which would have triggered mandatory minimum sentencing.

The 2013 policy also encouraged prosecutors to omit details about drug quantities in cases of non-violent offenders with no previous charges or ties to gangs or cartels to avoid harsher punishments.
Mandatory minimum sentences laws, which were passed in the 1980s and 1990s as part of the US "war on drugs", prevent judges from applying discretion when sentencing certain drug offences and are instead determined by the quantity of drugs involved in the crime.
Mr Obama had sought to ease mandatory minimum sentences to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes and help relieve overcrowded prisons in the US as part of criminal justice reform."

US law boss Sessions orders harsher criminal sentencing - BBC News





"The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.

Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars,
China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison


If you count only adults, one in 100 Americans is locked up
The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people.
The others have much lower rates. England's rate is 151; Germany's is 88; and Japan's is 63.
(The median among all nations is about 125, roughly a sixth of the American rate)


Criminologists and legal experts here and abroad point to a tangle of factors to explain America's extraordinary incarceration rate: higher levels of violent crime, harsher sentencing laws, a legacy of racial turmoil, a special fervor in combating illegal drugs, the American temperament, and the lack of a social safety net. Even democracy plays a role, as judges — many of whom are elected, another American anomaly — yield to populist demands for tough justice.
Whatever the reason, the gap between American justice and that of the rest of the world is enormous and growing.


The spike in American incarceration rates is quite recent. From 1925 to 1975, the rate remained stable, around 110 people in prison per 100,000 people. It shot up with the movement to get tough on crime in the late 1970s.


People who commit nonviolent crimes in the rest of the world are less likely to receive prison time and certainly less likely to receive long sentences. The United States is, for instance, the only advanced country that incarcerates people for minor property crimes like passing bad checks, Whitman wrote.

In 1980, there were about 40,000 people in American jails and prisons for drug crimes. These days, there are almost 500,000.
"The U.S. pursues the war on drugs with an ignorant fanaticism," said Stern of King's College.

Still, it is the length of sentences that truly distinguishes American prison policy.
Burglars in the United States serve an average of 16 months in prison, according to Mauer, compared with 5 months in Canada and 7 months in England."
U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations

Why do you lie so much?
Says here Sessions is going after dealers not users.
Sessions issues sweeping new criminal charging policy

Please quote my "lie"
As I just did yours

So you're against arresting drug dealers and giving them long sentences?

Good question.
Should a kid selling pot to their college friends face years in prison? Absolutely not. No harm, no victim.
Should a poor guy selling pot on their "block" face years in prison? Absolutely not.

Should a heroin dealer? yes- heroin kills people.

Still with t he false narrative, I see.

 

[koshergrl]

Sessions just said he is not a fan of mandatory. He is though, a fan of doing his job. He is not in the position of passing laws. He is in the position of upholding them.
Usually the person on drugs isn't incarcerated for doing drugs, but for crimes committed while on drugs or crimes committed in an effort to obtain drugs. And those on the receiving end of these crimes are getting sick and tired of the coddling of these criminals.
My friend's daughter and her daughter's disgusting boyfriend are druggy thieves by trade. A few years behind bars is about the only thing that is going to get her sober, and keep her alive, and yet every time she's caught, the judge has opted for some "alternative treatment" which in druggy speak means, "Yippee, who are we ripping off tonight, baby daddy?"

Right. That will cure them of their criminal behavior for sure!

"Federal Recidivism Studies
Federal Offenders and Recidivism-US Sentencing Commission-March, 2016

This report provides a broad overview of key findings from the United States Sentencing Commission’s study of recidivism of federal offenders.

The Commission studied offenders who were either released from federal prison after serving a sentence of imprisonment or placed on a term of probation in 2005.

Nearly half (49.3%) of such offenders were rearrested within eight years for either a new crime or for some other violation of the condition of their probation or release conditions.

This report discusses the Commission’s recidivism research project and provides many additional findings from that project. In the future, the Commission will release additional publications discussing specific topics concerning recidivism of federal offenders. (March 2016)

The offenders studied in this project are 25,431 federal offenders.

Key Findings

The key findings of the Commission’s study are:

Over an eight-year follow-up period, almost one-half of federal offenders released in 2005 (49.3%) were rearrested for a new crime or rearrested for a violation of supervision conditions.

Almost one-third (31.7%) of the offenders were also reconvicted, and one-quarter (24.6%) of the offenders were reincarcerated over the same study period.

Offenders released from incarceration in 2005 had a rearrest rate of 52.5 percent, while offenders released directly to a probationary sentence had a rearrest rate of 35.1 percent.

Of those offenders who recidivated, most did so within the first two years of the eight year follow-up period. The median time to rearrest was 21 months.

About one-fourth of those rearrested had an assault rearrest as their most serious charge over the study period. Other common most serious offenses were drug trafficking, larceny, and public order offenses.

A federal offender’s criminal history was closely correlated with recidivism rates. Rearrest rates range from 30.2 percent for offenders with zero total criminal history points to 80.1 percent of offenders in the highest Criminal History Category, VI. Each additional criminal history point was generally associated with a greater likelihood of recidivism.

A federal offender’s age at time of release into the community was also closely associated with differences in recidivism rates. Offenders released prior to age 21 had the highest rearrest rate, 67.6 percent, while offenders over sixty years old at the time of release had a recidivism rate of 16.0 percent with the exception of very short sentences (less than 6 months),

The rate of recidivism varies very little by length of prison sentence imposed (fluctuating between 50.8% for sentences between 6 months to 2 years, to a high of 55.5% for sentences between 5 to 9 years).

Other factors, including offense type and educational level, were associated with differing rates of recidivism but less so than age and criminal history.

Percent of Released Prisoners Returning to Incarceration

So what do you suggest? Hugs and coloring books? Because druggy classes simply do not work. Shall we let them help themselves to our belongings, our cash registers because incarceration is too hard on them?
Bullshit. If my friend's daughter goes to prison after one of her heists, it isn't to benefit her, it is to protect us.
A three year sentence means 3 years that a business will be able to keep it's profits, and her mother can sleep for 3 years without fear of that 3am. phone call.
If she gets out in three years and robs someone again, then 3 years wasn't long enough. Make it 6 years next time.

You think jail is a safe place lol? The longer she is there the higher the chance of her being hurt or killed by other inmates.
I suggest we get rid of private prisons- no one should be profiting off their neighbors loss of freedom. Break a law go to a gov prison.
I suggest we review sentence durations. Our punishments don't fit the crime.
I suggest we get rid of minimum sentences and trust our judges to use their best judgement.
I suggest we look at programs prisoners transition to after their sentence- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?
I also would like to see much more attention on the discrepancies of arrests and sentencing among the races.

- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?

Sorry, but you have NO idea how many times I saw the same face come back to the prison after they were released.

Hard to get them to change their ways, when they enjoy doing the things that get them locked up

I agree when someone serves time they are more likely to return to jail. But why?
Bad people are entering jail and coming out worse people. How can we break that cycle?

Keep them in fucking prison where they belong.

 

[Aries]

"The move is a reversal of ex-President Barack Obama's policy to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes.

It means we are going to meet our responsibility to enforce the law with judgment and fairness," Mr Sessions said on Friday. "It is simply the right and moral thing to do."

Mr Sessions' predecessor, Eric Holder, had instructed prosecutors in 2013 to avoid pursuing the maximum punishment for criminals in cases such as minor drug offences, which would have triggered mandatory minimum sentencing.

The 2013 policy also encouraged prosecutors to omit details about drug quantities in cases of non-violent offenders with no previous charges or ties to gangs or cartels to avoid harsher punishments.
Mandatory minimum sentences laws, which were passed in the 1980s and 1990s as part of the US "war on drugs", prevent judges from applying discretion when sentencing certain drug offences and are instead determined by the quantity of drugs involved in the crime.
Mr Obama had sought to ease mandatory minimum sentences to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes and help relieve overcrowded prisons in the US as part of criminal justice reform."

US law boss Sessions orders harsher criminal sentencing - BBC News





"The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.

Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars,
China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison


If you count only adults, one in 100 Americans is locked up
The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people.
The others have much lower rates. England's rate is 151; Germany's is 88; and Japan's is 63.
(The median among all nations is about 125, roughly a sixth of the American rate)


Criminologists and legal experts here and abroad point to a tangle of factors to explain America's extraordinary incarceration rate: higher levels of violent crime, harsher sentencing laws, a legacy of racial turmoil, a special fervor in combating illegal drugs, the American temperament, and the lack of a social safety net. Even democracy plays a role, as judges — many of whom are elected, another American anomaly — yield to populist demands for tough justice.
Whatever the reason, the gap between American justice and that of the rest of the world is enormous and growing.


The spike in American incarceration rates is quite recent. From 1925 to 1975, the rate remained stable, around 110 people in prison per 100,000 people. It shot up with the movement to get tough on crime in the late 1970s.


People who commit nonviolent crimes in the rest of the world are less likely to receive prison time and certainly less likely to receive long sentences. The United States is, for instance, the only advanced country that incarcerates people for minor property crimes like passing bad checks, Whitman wrote.

In 1980, there were about 40,000 people in American jails and prisons for drug crimes. These days, there are almost 500,000.
"The U.S. pursues the war on drugs with an ignorant fanaticism," said Stern of King's College.

Still, it is the length of sentences that truly distinguishes American prison policy.
Burglars in the United States serve an average of 16 months in prison, according to Mauer, compared with 5 months in Canada and 7 months in England."
U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations

Why do you lie so much?
Says here Sessions is going after dealers not users.
Sessions issues sweeping new criminal charging policy

Please quote my "lie"
As I just did yours

So you're against arresting drug dealers and giving them long sentences?

Good question.
Should a kid selling pot to their college friends face years in prison? Absolutely not. No harm, no victim.
Should a poor guy selling pot on their "block" face years in prison? Absolutely not.

Should a heroin dealer? yes- heroin kills people.

Still with t he false narrative, I see.

how is my personal opinion a false narrative? lol

 

[LaDexter]

Keep them in fucking prison where they belong.

ie keep it KOSHER = keep that money flowing into LAWYERS' pockets....

 

[BlindBoo]

"The move is a reversal of ex-President Barack Obama's policy to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes.

It means we are going to meet our responsibility to enforce the law with judgment and fairness," Mr Sessions said on Friday. "It is simply the right and moral thing to do."

Mr Sessions' predecessor, Eric Holder, had instructed prosecutors in 2013 to avoid pursuing the maximum punishment for criminals in cases such as minor drug offences, which would have triggered mandatory minimum sentencing.

The 2013 policy also encouraged prosecutors to omit details about drug quantities in cases of non-violent offenders with no previous charges or ties to gangs or cartels to avoid harsher punishments.
Mandatory minimum sentences laws, which were passed in the 1980s and 1990s as part of the US "war on drugs", prevent judges from applying discretion when sentencing certain drug offences and are instead determined by the quantity of drugs involved in the crime.
Mr Obama had sought to ease mandatory minimum sentences to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes and help relieve overcrowded prisons in the US as part of criminal justice reform."

US law boss Sessions orders harsher criminal sentencing - BBC News





"The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.

Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars,
China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison


If you count only adults, one in 100 Americans is locked up
The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people.
The others have much lower rates. England's rate is 151; Germany's is 88; and Japan's is 63.
(The median among all nations is about 125, roughly a sixth of the American rate)


Criminologists and legal experts here and abroad point to a tangle of factors to explain America's extraordinary incarceration rate: higher levels of violent crime, harsher sentencing laws, a legacy of racial turmoil, a special fervor in combating illegal drugs, the American temperament, and the lack of a social safety net. Even democracy plays a role, as judges — many of whom are elected, another American anomaly — yield to populist demands for tough justice.
Whatever the reason, the gap between American justice and that of the rest of the world is enormous and growing.


The spike in American incarceration rates is quite recent. From 1925 to 1975, the rate remained stable, around 110 people in prison per 100,000 people. It shot up with the movement to get tough on crime in the late 1970s.


People who commit nonviolent crimes in the rest of the world are less likely to receive prison time and certainly less likely to receive long sentences. The United States is, for instance, the only advanced country that incarcerates people for minor property crimes like passing bad checks, Whitman wrote.

In 1980, there were about 40,000 people in American jails and prisons for drug crimes. These days, there are almost 500,000.
"The U.S. pursues the war on drugs with an ignorant fanaticism," said Stern of King's College.

Still, it is the length of sentences that truly distinguishes American prison policy.
Burglars in the United States serve an average of 16 months in prison, according to Mauer, compared with 5 months in Canada and 7 months in England."
U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations

Why do you lie so much?
Says here Sessions is going after dealers not users.
Sessions issues sweeping new criminal charging policy

Please quote my "lie"
As I just did yours

So you're against arresting drug dealers and giving them long sentences?

I am. Legalize it. Regulate it. Tax it. Get them out of the black market.

 

[task0778]

"The move is a reversal of ex-President Barack Obama's policy to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes.

It means we are going to meet our responsibility to enforce the law with judgment and fairness," Mr Sessions said on Friday. "It is simply the right and moral thing to do."

Mr Sessions' predecessor, Eric Holder, had instructed prosecutors in 2013 to avoid pursuing the maximum punishment for criminals in cases such as minor drug offences, which would have triggered mandatory minimum sentencing.

The 2013 policy also encouraged prosecutors to omit details about drug quantities in cases of non-violent offenders with no previous charges or ties to gangs or cartels to avoid harsher punishments.
Mandatory minimum sentences laws, which were passed in the 1980s and 1990s as part of the US "war on drugs", prevent judges from applying discretion when sentencing certain drug offences and are instead determined by the quantity of drugs involved in the crime.
Mr Obama had sought to ease mandatory minimum sentences to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes and help relieve overcrowded prisons in the US as part of criminal justice reform."

US law boss Sessions orders harsher criminal sentencing - BBC News





"The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.

Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars,
China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison


If you count only adults, one in 100 Americans is locked up
The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people.
The others have much lower rates. England's rate is 151; Germany's is 88; and Japan's is 63.
(The median among all nations is about 125, roughly a sixth of the American rate)


Criminologists and legal experts here and abroad point to a tangle of factors to explain America's extraordinary incarceration rate: higher levels of violent crime, harsher sentencing laws, a legacy of racial turmoil, a special fervor in combating illegal drugs, the American temperament, and the lack of a social safety net. Even democracy plays a role, as judges — many of whom are elected, another American anomaly — yield to populist demands for tough justice.
Whatever the reason, the gap between American justice and that of the rest of the world is enormous and growing.


The spike in American incarceration rates is quite recent. From 1925 to 1975, the rate remained stable, around 110 people in prison per 100,000 people. It shot up with the movement to get tough on crime in the late 1970s.


People who commit nonviolent crimes in the rest of the world are less likely to receive prison time and certainly less likely to receive long sentences. The United States is, for instance, the only advanced country that incarcerates people for minor property crimes like passing bad checks, Whitman wrote.

In 1980, there were about 40,000 people in American jails and prisons for drug crimes. These days, there are almost 500,000.
"The U.S. pursues the war on drugs with an ignorant fanaticism," said Stern of King's College.

Still, it is the length of sentences that truly distinguishes American prison policy.
Burglars in the United States serve an average of 16 months in prison, according to Mauer, compared with 5 months in Canada and 7 months in England."
U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations

Why do you lie so much?
Says here Sessions is going after dealers not users.
Sessions issues sweeping new criminal charging policy

Please quote my "lie"
As I just did yours

So you're against arresting drug dealers and giving them long sentences?

Good question.
Should a kid selling pot to their college friends face years in prison? Absolutely not. No harm, no victim.
Should a poor guy selling pot on their "block" face years in prison? Absolutely not.

Should a heroin dealer? yes- heroin kills people.

Which is why Sessions said prosecutors have the discretion for which crimes to charge.

 

[koshergrl]

Keep them in fucking prison where they belong.

ie keep it KOSHER = keep that money flowing into LAWYERS' pockets....

How is it more expense to require criminals to serve out their sentences, as opposed to letting them out to break the law over, and over, and over again..resulting in trials and damages and attorney fees over the course of years for a variety of crimes with a variety of victims?

Psst..it isn't.

Build prisons.
Put criminals in them.
Leave them to rot.

Build nuthouses.
Put the drug addled mentally ill people in them.
Leave them there.

 

[Auld Phart]

Sessions just said he is not a fan of mandatory. He is though, a fan of doing his job. He is not in the position of passing laws. He is in the position of upholding them.
Usually the person on drugs isn't incarcerated for doing drugs, but for crimes committed while on drugs or crimes committed in an effort to obtain drugs. And those on the receiving end of these crimes are getting sick and tired of the coddling of these criminals.
My friend's daughter and her daughter's disgusting boyfriend are druggy thieves by trade. A few years behind bars is about the only thing that is going to get her sober, and keep her alive, and yet every time she's caught, the judge has opted for some "alternative treatment" which in druggy speak means, "Yippee, who are we ripping off tonight, baby daddy?"

Right. That will cure them of their criminal behavior for sure!

"Federal Recidivism Studies
Federal Offenders and Recidivism-US Sentencing Commission-March, 2016

This report provides a broad overview of key findings from the United States Sentencing Commission’s study of recidivism of federal offenders.

The Commission studied offenders who were either released from federal prison after serving a sentence of imprisonment or placed on a term of probation in 2005.

Nearly half (49.3%) of such offenders were rearrested within eight years for either a new crime or for some other violation of the condition of their probation or release conditions.

This report discusses the Commission’s recidivism research project and provides many additional findings from that project. In the future, the Commission will release additional publications discussing specific topics concerning recidivism of federal offenders. (March 2016)

The offenders studied in this project are 25,431 federal offenders.

Key Findings

The key findings of the Commission’s study are:

Over an eight-year follow-up period, almost one-half of federal offenders released in 2005 (49.3%) were rearrested for a new crime or rearrested for a violation of supervision conditions.

Almost one-third (31.7%) of the offenders were also reconvicted, and one-quarter (24.6%) of the offenders were reincarcerated over the same study period.

Offenders released from incarceration in 2005 had a rearrest rate of 52.5 percent, while offenders released directly to a probationary sentence had a rearrest rate of 35.1 percent.

Of those offenders who recidivated, most did so within the first two years of the eight year follow-up period. The median time to rearrest was 21 months.

About one-fourth of those rearrested had an assault rearrest as their most serious charge over the study period. Other common most serious offenses were drug trafficking, larceny, and public order offenses.

A federal offender’s criminal history was closely correlated with recidivism rates. Rearrest rates range from 30.2 percent for offenders with zero total criminal history points to 80.1 percent of offenders in the highest Criminal History Category, VI. Each additional criminal history point was generally associated with a greater likelihood of recidivism.

A federal offender’s age at time of release into the community was also closely associated with differences in recidivism rates. Offenders released prior to age 21 had the highest rearrest rate, 67.6 percent, while offenders over sixty years old at the time of release had a recidivism rate of 16.0 percent with the exception of very short sentences (less than 6 months),

The rate of recidivism varies very little by length of prison sentence imposed (fluctuating between 50.8% for sentences between 6 months to 2 years, to a high of 55.5% for sentences between 5 to 9 years).

Other factors, including offense type and educational level, were associated with differing rates of recidivism but less so than age and criminal history.

Percent of Released Prisoners Returning to Incarceration

So what do you suggest? Hugs and coloring books? Because druggy classes simply do not work. Shall we let them help themselves to our belongings, our cash registers because incarceration is too hard on them?
Bullshit. If my friend's daughter goes to prison after one of her heists, it isn't to benefit her, it is to protect us.
A three year sentence means 3 years that a business will be able to keep it's profits, and her mother can sleep for 3 years without fear of that 3am. phone call.
If she gets out in three years and robs someone again, then 3 years wasn't long enough. Make it 6 years next time.

You think jail is a safe place lol? The longer she is there the higher the chance of her being hurt or killed by other inmates.
I suggest we get rid of private prisons- no one should be profiting off their neighbors loss of freedom. Break a law go to a gov prison.
I suggest we review sentence durations. Our punishments don't fit the crime.
I suggest we get rid of minimum sentences and trust our judges to use their best judgement.
I suggest we look at programs prisoners transition to after their sentence- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?
I also would like to see much more attention on the discrepancies of arrests and sentencing among the races.

- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?

Sorry, but you have NO idea how many times I saw the same face come back to the prison after they were released.

Hard to get them to change their ways, when they enjoy doing the things that get them locked up

I agree when someone serves time they are more likely to return to jail. But why?
Bad people are entering jail and coming out worse people. How can we break that cycle?
That's why I think that the programs used in transitioning convicts back into society should be reviewed, are they just getting dumped in the same circumstances or can we get some job training, some educational programs, something that would make their odds at assimilation higher.

most convicts have 3 stories

The one that put them in jail,

the one they tell their fellow convicts,

and the one they tell the parole board, to get a lighter sentence.

 

[Aries]

Right. That will cure them of their criminal behavior for sure!

"Federal Recidivism Studies
Federal Offenders and Recidivism-US Sentencing Commission-March, 2016

This report provides a broad overview of key findings from the United States Sentencing Commission’s study of recidivism of federal offenders.

The Commission studied offenders who were either released from federal prison after serving a sentence of imprisonment or placed on a term of probation in 2005.

Nearly half (49.3%) of such offenders were rearrested within eight years for either a new crime or for some other violation of the condition of their probation or release conditions.

This report discusses the Commission’s recidivism research project and provides many additional findings from that project. In the future, the Commission will release additional publications discussing specific topics concerning recidivism of federal offenders. (March 2016)

The offenders studied in this project are 25,431 federal offenders.

Key Findings

The key findings of the Commission’s study are:

Over an eight-year follow-up period, almost one-half of federal offenders released in 2005 (49.3%) were rearrested for a new crime or rearrested for a violation of supervision conditions.

Almost one-third (31.7%) of the offenders were also reconvicted, and one-quarter (24.6%) of the offenders were reincarcerated over the same study period.

Offenders released from incarceration in 2005 had a rearrest rate of 52.5 percent, while offenders released directly to a probationary sentence had a rearrest rate of 35.1 percent.

Of those offenders who recidivated, most did so within the first two years of the eight year follow-up period. The median time to rearrest was 21 months.

About one-fourth of those rearrested had an assault rearrest as their most serious charge over the study period. Other common most serious offenses were drug trafficking, larceny, and public order offenses.

A federal offender’s criminal history was closely correlated with recidivism rates. Rearrest rates range from 30.2 percent for offenders with zero total criminal history points to 80.1 percent of offenders in the highest Criminal History Category, VI. Each additional criminal history point was generally associated with a greater likelihood of recidivism.

A federal offender’s age at time of release into the community was also closely associated with differences in recidivism rates. Offenders released prior to age 21 had the highest rearrest rate, 67.6 percent, while offenders over sixty years old at the time of release had a recidivism rate of 16.0 percent with the exception of very short sentences (less than 6 months),

The rate of recidivism varies very little by length of prison sentence imposed (fluctuating between 50.8% for sentences between 6 months to 2 years, to a high of 55.5% for sentences between 5 to 9 years).

Other factors, including offense type and educational level, were associated with differing rates of recidivism but less so than age and criminal history.

Percent of Released Prisoners Returning to Incarceration

So what do you suggest? Hugs and coloring books? Because druggy classes simply do not work. Shall we let them help themselves to our belongings, our cash registers because incarceration is too hard on them?
Bullshit. If my friend's daughter goes to prison after one of her heists, it isn't to benefit her, it is to protect us.
A three year sentence means 3 years that a business will be able to keep it's profits, and her mother can sleep for 3 years without fear of that 3am. phone call.
If she gets out in three years and robs someone again, then 3 years wasn't long enough. Make it 6 years next time.

You think jail is a safe place lol? The longer she is there the higher the chance of her being hurt or killed by other inmates.
I suggest we get rid of private prisons- no one should be profiting off their neighbors loss of freedom. Break a law go to a gov prison.
I suggest we review sentence durations. Our punishments don't fit the crime.
I suggest we get rid of minimum sentences and trust our judges to use their best judgement.
I suggest we look at programs prisoners transition to after their sentence- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?
I also would like to see much more attention on the discrepancies of arrests and sentencing among the races.

- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?

Sorry, but you have NO idea how many times I saw the same face come back to the prison after they were released.

Hard to get them to change their ways, when they enjoy doing the things that get them locked up

I agree when someone serves time they are more likely to return to jail. But why?
Bad people are entering jail and coming out worse people. How can we break that cycle?

Keep them in fucking prison where they belong.

So everyone who breaks a law no matter what law that is, should receive life?
I think you are to bias and emotional for this topic

.
Can I as the OP block one from commenting?

 

[LaDexter]

But BOO, the "experts," the "studies" show that we must keep that money flowing into attorney pockets!!!

 

[koshergrl]

Right. That will cure them of their criminal behavior for sure!

"Federal Recidivism Studies
Federal Offenders and Recidivism-US Sentencing Commission-March, 2016

This report provides a broad overview of key findings from the United States Sentencing Commission’s study of recidivism of federal offenders.

The Commission studied offenders who were either released from federal prison after serving a sentence of imprisonment or placed on a term of probation in 2005.

Nearly half (49.3%) of such offenders were rearrested within eight years for either a new crime or for some other violation of the condition of their probation or release conditions.

This report discusses the Commission’s recidivism research project and provides many additional findings from that project. In the future, the Commission will release additional publications discussing specific topics concerning recidivism of federal offenders. (March 2016)

The offenders studied in this project are 25,431 federal offenders.

Key Findings

The key findings of the Commission’s study are:

Over an eight-year follow-up period, almost one-half of federal offenders released in 2005 (49.3%) were rearrested for a new crime or rearrested for a violation of supervision conditions.

Almost one-third (31.7%) of the offenders were also reconvicted, and one-quarter (24.6%) of the offenders were reincarcerated over the same study period.

Offenders released from incarceration in 2005 had a rearrest rate of 52.5 percent, while offenders released directly to a probationary sentence had a rearrest rate of 35.1 percent.

Of those offenders who recidivated, most did so within the first two years of the eight year follow-up period. The median time to rearrest was 21 months.

About one-fourth of those rearrested had an assault rearrest as their most serious charge over the study period. Other common most serious offenses were drug trafficking, larceny, and public order offenses.

A federal offender’s criminal history was closely correlated with recidivism rates. Rearrest rates range from 30.2 percent for offenders with zero total criminal history points to 80.1 percent of offenders in the highest Criminal History Category, VI. Each additional criminal history point was generally associated with a greater likelihood of recidivism.

A federal offender’s age at time of release into the community was also closely associated with differences in recidivism rates. Offenders released prior to age 21 had the highest rearrest rate, 67.6 percent, while offenders over sixty years old at the time of release had a recidivism rate of 16.0 percent with the exception of very short sentences (less than 6 months),

The rate of recidivism varies very little by length of prison sentence imposed (fluctuating between 50.8% for sentences between 6 months to 2 years, to a high of 55.5% for sentences between 5 to 9 years).

Other factors, including offense type and educational level, were associated with differing rates of recidivism but less so than age and criminal history.

Percent of Released Prisoners Returning to Incarceration

So what do you suggest? Hugs and coloring books? Because druggy classes simply do not work. Shall we let them help themselves to our belongings, our cash registers because incarceration is too hard on them?
Bullshit. If my friend's daughter goes to prison after one of her heists, it isn't to benefit her, it is to protect us.
A three year sentence means 3 years that a business will be able to keep it's profits, and her mother can sleep for 3 years without fear of that 3am. phone call.
If she gets out in three years and robs someone again, then 3 years wasn't long enough. Make it 6 years next time.

You think jail is a safe place lol? The longer she is there the higher the chance of her being hurt or killed by other inmates.
I suggest we get rid of private prisons- no one should be profiting off their neighbors loss of freedom. Break a law go to a gov prison.
I suggest we review sentence durations. Our punishments don't fit the crime.
I suggest we get rid of minimum sentences and trust our judges to use their best judgement.
I suggest we look at programs prisoners transition to after their sentence- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?
I also would like to see much more attention on the discrepancies of arrests and sentencing among the races.

- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?

Sorry, but you have NO idea how many times I saw the same face come back to the prison after they were released.

Hard to get them to change their ways, when they enjoy doing the things that get them locked up

I agree when someone serves time they are more likely to return to jail. But why?
Bad people are entering jail and coming out worse people. How can we break that cycle?
That's why I think that the programs used in transitioning convicts back into society should be reviewed, are they just getting dumped in the same circumstances or can we get some job training, some educational programs, something that would make their odds at assimilation higher.

most convicts have 3 stories

The one that put them in jail,

the one they tell their fellow convicts,

and the one they tell the parole board, to get a lighter sentence.

I get the distinct feeling that Aries has a personal understanding of this.

Just sayin.

 

[koshergrl]

So what do you suggest? Hugs and coloring books? Because druggy classes simply do not work. Shall we let them help themselves to our belongings, our cash registers because incarceration is too hard on them?
Bullshit. If my friend's daughter goes to prison after one of her heists, it isn't to benefit her, it is to protect us.
A three year sentence means 3 years that a business will be able to keep it's profits, and her mother can sleep for 3 years without fear of that 3am. phone call.
If she gets out in three years and robs someone again, then 3 years wasn't long enough. Make it 6 years next time.

You think jail is a safe place lol? The longer she is there the higher the chance of her being hurt or killed by other inmates.
I suggest we get rid of private prisons- no one should be profiting off their neighbors loss of freedom. Break a law go to a gov prison.
I suggest we review sentence durations. Our punishments don't fit the crime.
I suggest we get rid of minimum sentences and trust our judges to use their best judgement.
I suggest we look at programs prisoners transition to after their sentence- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?
I also would like to see much more attention on the discrepancies of arrests and sentencing among the races.

- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?

Sorry, but you have NO idea how many times I saw the same face come back to the prison after they were released.

Hard to get them to change their ways, when they enjoy doing the things that get them locked up

I agree when someone serves time they are more likely to return to jail. But why?
Bad people are entering jail and coming out worse people. How can we break that cycle?

Keep them in fucking prison where they belong.

So everyone who breaks a law no matter what law that is, should receive life?
I think you are to bias and emotional for this topic

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Can I as the OP block one from commenting?

Nope, didn't say that. You are imagining things.

I think you are a liar, as well as being biased and too emotional, as you are now making shit up.

 

[koshergrl]

And no, you can't block me from commenting.

 

[Aries]

"The move is a reversal of ex-President Barack Obama's policy to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes.

It means we are going to meet our responsibility to enforce the law with judgment and fairness," Mr Sessions said on Friday. "It is simply the right and moral thing to do."

Mr Sessions' predecessor, Eric Holder, had instructed prosecutors in 2013 to avoid pursuing the maximum punishment for criminals in cases such as minor drug offences, which would have triggered mandatory minimum sentencing.

The 2013 policy also encouraged prosecutors to omit details about drug quantities in cases of non-violent offenders with no previous charges or ties to gangs or cartels to avoid harsher punishments.
Mandatory minimum sentences laws, which were passed in the 1980s and 1990s as part of the US "war on drugs", prevent judges from applying discretion when sentencing certain drug offences and are instead determined by the quantity of drugs involved in the crime.
Mr Obama had sought to ease mandatory minimum sentences to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes and help relieve overcrowded prisons in the US as part of criminal justice reform."

US law boss Sessions orders harsher criminal sentencing - BBC News





"The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.

Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars,
China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison


If you count only adults, one in 100 Americans is locked up
The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people.
The others have much lower rates. England's rate is 151; Germany's is 88; and Japan's is 63.
(The median among all nations is about 125, roughly a sixth of the American rate)


Criminologists and legal experts here and abroad point to a tangle of factors to explain America's extraordinary incarceration rate: higher levels of violent crime, harsher sentencing laws, a legacy of racial turmoil, a special fervor in combating illegal drugs, the American temperament, and the lack of a social safety net. Even democracy plays a role, as judges — many of whom are elected, another American anomaly — yield to populist demands for tough justice.
Whatever the reason, the gap between American justice and that of the rest of the world is enormous and growing.


The spike in American incarceration rates is quite recent. From 1925 to 1975, the rate remained stable, around 110 people in prison per 100,000 people. It shot up with the movement to get tough on crime in the late 1970s.


People who commit nonviolent crimes in the rest of the world are less likely to receive prison time and certainly less likely to receive long sentences. The United States is, for instance, the only advanced country that incarcerates people for minor property crimes like passing bad checks, Whitman wrote.

In 1980, there were about 40,000 people in American jails and prisons for drug crimes. These days, there are almost 500,000.
"The U.S. pursues the war on drugs with an ignorant fanaticism," said Stern of King's College.

Still, it is the length of sentences that truly distinguishes American prison policy.
Burglars in the United States serve an average of 16 months in prison, according to Mauer, compared with 5 months in Canada and 7 months in England."
U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations

Why do you lie so much?
Says here Sessions is going after dealers not users.
Sessions issues sweeping new criminal charging policy

Please quote my "lie"
As I just did yours

So you're against arresting drug dealers and giving them long sentences?

Good question.
Should a kid selling pot to their college friends face years in prison? Absolutely not. No harm, no victim.
Should a poor guy selling pot on their "block" face years in prison? Absolutely not.

Should a heroin dealer? yes- heroin kills people.

Which is why Sessions said prosecutors have the discretion for which crimes to charge.

but to always go after the max sentence. Thats BS. I think that just because someone shouldn't receive the max doesn't mean they shouldn't be charged, they still committed the crime right? How about our punishments match our crime? Better solution.

 

[Auld Phart]

So what do you suggest? Hugs and coloring books? Because druggy classes simply do not work. Shall we let them help themselves to our belongings, our cash registers because incarceration is too hard on them?
Bullshit. If my friend's daughter goes to prison after one of her heists, it isn't to benefit her, it is to protect us.
A three year sentence means 3 years that a business will be able to keep it's profits, and her mother can sleep for 3 years without fear of that 3am. phone call.
If she gets out in three years and robs someone again, then 3 years wasn't long enough. Make it 6 years next time.

You think jail is a safe place lol? The longer she is there the higher the chance of her being hurt or killed by other inmates.
I suggest we get rid of private prisons- no one should be profiting off their neighbors loss of freedom. Break a law go to a gov prison.
I suggest we review sentence durations. Our punishments don't fit the crime.
I suggest we get rid of minimum sentences and trust our judges to use their best judgement.
I suggest we look at programs prisoners transition to after their sentence- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?
I also would like to see much more attention on the discrepancies of arrests and sentencing among the races.

- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?

Sorry, but you have NO idea how many times I saw the same face come back to the prison after they were released.

Hard to get them to change their ways, when they enjoy doing the things that get them locked up

I agree when someone serves time they are more likely to return to jail. But why?
Bad people are entering jail and coming out worse people. How can we break that cycle?
That's why I think that the programs used in transitioning convicts back into society should be reviewed, are they just getting dumped in the same circumstances or can we get some job training, some educational programs, something that would make their odds at assimilation higher.

most convicts have 3 stories

The one that put them in jail,

the one they tell their fellow convicts,

and the one they tell the parole board, to get a lighter sentence.

I get the distinct feeling that Aries has a personal understanding of this.

Just sayin.

From what I've seen of her posts, she has no understanding of it at all.

 

[Auld Phart]

And no, you can't block me from commenting.

She can put you on ignore...

but that only prevents her from seeing your posts

 

[koshergrl]

Why do you lie so much?
Says here Sessions is going after dealers not users.
Sessions issues sweeping new criminal charging policy

Please quote my "lie"
As I just did yours

So you're against arresting drug dealers and giving them long sentences?

Good question.
Should a kid selling pot to their college friends face years in prison? Absolutely not. No harm, no victim.
Should a poor guy selling pot on their "block" face years in prison? Absolutely not.

Should a heroin dealer? yes- heroin kills people.

Which is why Sessions said prosecutors have the discretion for which crimes to charge.

but to always go after the max sentence. Thats BS. I think that just because someone shouldn't receive the max doesn't mean they shouldn't be charged, they still committed the crime right? How about our punishments match our crime? Better solution.

It is the job of prosecutors to pursue the maximum sentence for the crime committed.

It's the job of the defense to argue that sentence, and it's the job of the judge and the jury to determine what an appropriate sentence is.

I think the judge and jury should have discretion. But when a person is convicted, and sentenced, they should have to serve the entire sentence.

Which is what I've been saying all along. You just aren't equipped to understand.

 

[koshergrl]

You think jail is a safe place lol? The longer she is there the higher the chance of her being hurt or killed by other inmates.
I suggest we get rid of private prisons- no one should be profiting off their neighbors loss of freedom. Break a law go to a gov prison.
I suggest we review sentence durations. Our punishments don't fit the crime.
I suggest we get rid of minimum sentences and trust our judges to use their best judgement.
I suggest we look at programs prisoners transition to after their sentence- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?
I also would like to see much more attention on the discrepancies of arrests and sentencing among the races.

- are we just dropping excons back into the same situation that lead then to crime or are we preparing them to be contributing members of society?

Sorry, but you have NO idea how many times I saw the same face come back to the prison after they were released.

Hard to get them to change their ways, when they enjoy doing the things that get them locked up

I agree when someone serves time they are more likely to return to jail. But why?
Bad people are entering jail and coming out worse people. How can we break that cycle?
That's why I think that the programs used in transitioning convicts back into society should be reviewed, are they just getting dumped in the same circumstances or can we get some job training, some educational programs, something that would make their odds at assimilation higher.

most convicts have 3 stories

The one that put them in jail,

the one they tell their fellow convicts,

and the one they tell the parole board, to get a lighter sentence.

I get the distinct feeling that Aries has a personal understanding of this.

Just sayin.

From what I've seen of her posts, she has no understanding of it at all.

Usually people who screech about poor pitiful druggies in jail have rap sheets themselves.