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Some schools had rifle teams even in New York.


In 1975, New York state had over 80 school districts with rifle teams. In 1984, that had dropped to 65. By 1999 there were just 26.

Gun Clubs at School

In 1975, there had never been a shooting at a K-12 school.

Then those like Barb gained power. Looks like maybe it isn't the guns that are the problem...

Really? Never? Are you sure?

Well then explain this..........

June 8, 1867: New York City, Arthur Day, a 13-year-old boy, secretly took a loaded pistol to Public School No. 18 to shoot a dog he said had bitten him. While playing with the pistol, Day accidentally shot and injured classmate Robert Morton.

May 24, 1879: Lancaster, New York, Frank Shugart, a telegraph operator, shot and severely injured Mr. Carr, Superintendent of the stables at a girls' school.

January 20, 1891: Syracuse, New York, In an abusive rage, Wilber F. Baker went to the Bassett Street School where his wife was teaching, entered the classroom and shot her five times, killing her. He was caught by police after a 40 mile chase.

April 9, 1891: Newburgh, New York, James Ferguson, 70, fired a shotgun at a group of students in the playground of St. Mary's Parochial School, causing minor injuries to several of the students.

December 23, 1908: New York City, Van Dwight Sheldon, an engineering student at New York University was staying in the Dean's Manor, with his older cousin and Dean of the Engineering College, Dean Snow. A burglar broke into the cellar of the home when Sheldon confronted him. The burglar shot Sheldon in the abdomen, killing him, and escaped after a chase.

January 12, 1910: New York City, "A black bearded maniac drew an automatic pistol" and fired five shots into a crowd of the Harlem School boys. The kids were taunting him, so he shot into the crowd of children. Robert Lomas, aged 6, was hit in the heart and died instantly, Arthur Shively also aged 6 was shot through the left lung and critically wounded.

April 2, 1921: Syracuse, New York, Professor Holmes Beckwith shot and killed dean J. Herman Wharton in his office at Syracuse University before committing suicide.

February 15, 1927: Hempstead, New York, James O'Donnell, 18-year-old senior at Hempstead High School, shot himself to death on the stage in the school's auditorium. A suicide note stated that O'Donnell killed himself to lessen the financial burden on his family.

May 7, 1935: Irvington, New York, Dr. Paul Kyle, head of the Kyle School for Boys, was found shot to death in the school, just before classes were to begin for the day.

May 23, 1940: New York City, Infuriated by a grievance, Matthew Gillespie, 62-year-old janitor at the Dwight School for Girls, shot and critically wounded Mrs. Marshall Coxe, secretary of the junior school.

February 23, 1943: Port Chester, New York, Harry Wyman, 13, shot himself dead at the Harvey School, a boys’ preparatory school.

June 26, 1946: New York City, A 15-year-old student who balked at turning over his pocket money to a gang of seven youths was shot in the chest in the basement of the Public School 147 annex of the Brooklyn High School for Automotive Trades.

November 24, 1946: New York City, A 13-year-old student at St. Benedict’s Parochial School, shot and fatally wounded himself while sitting in an audience watching a school play.

December 24, 1948: New York City, A 14-year-old student was fatally wounded by a shot from the .22 caliber rifle of a fellow student Robert Ross, 17. The youth was accidentally shot in the head when he chanced into range where Ross was target shooting near a lake on the school property.

March 11, 1949: New York City, A 16-year-old student at Stuyvesant High School was accidentally shot in the arm by a fellow student who was ‘showing off’ with a pistol in a classroom.

July 22, 1950: New York City, A 16-year-old boy was shot in the wrist and abdomen at the Public School 141 dance during an argument with a former classmate.

June 4, 1951: New York City, Carl Arch, a 50-year-old intruder to a girl's gym class was shot and killed by a police officer at Manhattan's Central Commercial High School.

November 27, 1951: New York City, David Brooks, a 15-year-old student, was fatally shot as fellow pupils looked on in a grade school.

April 9, 1952: New York City, A 15-year-old boarding school student shot a dean rather than relinquish pin-up pictures of girls in bathing suits.

July 14, 1952: New York City, Bayard Peakes walked into the offices of the American Physical Society (APS) at Columbia University and shot and killed secretary Eileen Fahey with a .22 caliber pistol. Peakes was reportedly upset that the APS had rejected a pamphlet he had written.

April 27, 1966: Bay Shore, New York, Teacher John S. Lane, 48, was shot and fatally wounded when he tried to stop 16-year-old student James Arthur Frampton, who was walking through the halls of Bay Shore Senior High School with a shotgun, searching for some boys with whom he had an argument earlier that day. Lane died of his wounds on June 13, 1966.

List of school shootings in the United States
 
Really? Never? Are you sure?

Well then explain this..........

June 8, 1867: New York City, Arthur Day, a 13-year-old boy, secretly took a loaded pistol to Public School No. 18 to shoot a dog he said had bitten him. While playing with the pistol, Day accidentally shot and injured classmate Robert Morton.

Your kidding, right?

Not even close.


May 24, 1879: Lancaster, New York, Frank Shugart, a telegraph operator, shot and severely injured Mr. Carr, Superintendent of the stables at a girls' school.

Come on, what does that have to do with a student engaging in a mass shooting of fellow students?

January 20, 1891: Syracuse, New York, In an abusive rage, Wilber F. Baker went to the Bassett Street School where his wife was teaching, entered the classroom and shot her five times, killing her. He was caught by police after a 40 mile chase.

You're spending too much time on ThinkProgress - seriously.

April 9, 1891: Newburgh, New York, James Ferguson, 70, fired a shotgun at a group of students in the playground of St. Mary's Parochial School, causing minor injuries to several of the students.

At least this involved students, but still...

December 23, 1908: New York City, Van Dwight Sheldon, an engineering student at New York University was staying in the Dean's Manor, with his older cousin and Dean of the Engineering College, Dean Snow. A burglar broke into the cellar of the home when Sheldon confronted him. The burglar shot Sheldon in the abdomen, killing him, and escaped after a chase.

Shot by a burglar? Why are you posting stupid shit? You channeling your inner TDM?


January 12, 1910: New York City, "A black bearded maniac drew an automatic pistol" and fired five shots into a crowd of the Harlem School boys. The kids were taunting him, so he shot into the crowd of children. Robert Lomas, aged 6, was hit in the heart and died instantly, Arthur Shively also aged 6 was shot through the left lung and critically wounded.

Guess students grew beards young back then....

April 2, 1921: Syracuse, New York, Professor Holmes Beckwith shot and killed dean J. Herman Wharton in his office at Syracuse University before committing suicide.

February 15, 1927: Hempstead, New York, James O'Donnell, 18-year-old senior at Hempstead High School, shot himself to death on the stage in the school's auditorium. A suicide note stated that O'Donnell killed himself to lessen the financial burden on his family.

May 7, 1935: Irvington, New York, Dr. Paul Kyle, head of the Kyle School for Boys, was found shot to death in the school, just before classes were to begin for the day.

May 23, 1940: New York City, Infuriated by a grievance, Matthew Gillespie, 62-year-old janitor at the Dwight School for Girls, shot and critically wounded Mrs. Marshall Coxe, secretary of the junior school.

February 23, 1943: Port Chester, New York, Harry Wyman, 13, shot himself dead at the Harvey School, a boys’ preparatory school.

June 26, 1946: New York City, A 15-year-old student who balked at turning over his pocket money to a gang of seven youths was shot in the chest in the basement of the Public School 147 annex of the Brooklyn High School for Automotive Trades.

November 24, 1946: New York City, A 13-year-old student at St. Benedict’s Parochial School, shot and fatally wounded himself while sitting in an audience watching a school play.

December 24, 1948: New York City, A 14-year-old student was fatally wounded by a shot from the .22 caliber rifle of a fellow student Robert Ross, 17. The youth was accidentally shot in the head when he chanced into range where Ross was target shooting near a lake on the school property.

March 11, 1949: New York City, A 16-year-old student at Stuyvesant High School was accidentally shot in the arm by a fellow student who was ‘showing off’ with a pistol in a classroom.

July 22, 1950: New York City, A 16-year-old boy was shot in the wrist and abdomen at the Public School 141 dance during an argument with a former classmate.

June 4, 1951: New York City, Carl Arch, a 50-year-old intruder to a girl's gym class was shot and killed by a police officer at Manhattan's Central Commercial High School.

November 27, 1951: New York City, David Brooks, a 15-year-old student, was fatally shot as fellow pupils looked on in a grade school.

April 9, 1952: New York City, A 15-year-old boarding school student shot a dean rather than relinquish pin-up pictures of girls in bathing suits.

July 14, 1952: New York City, Bayard Peakes walked into the offices of the American Physical Society (APS) at Columbia University and shot and killed secretary Eileen Fahey with a .22 caliber pistol. Peakes was reportedly upset that the APS had rejected a pamphlet he had written.

April 27, 1966: Bay Shore, New York, Teacher John S. Lane, 48, was shot and fatally wounded when he tried to stop 16-year-old student James Arthur Frampton, who was walking through the halls of Bay Shore Senior High School with a shotgun, searching for some boys with whom he had an argument earlier that day. Lane died of his wounds on June 13, 1966.

List of school shootings in the United States

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Really? Never? Are you sure?

Well then explain this..........

June 8, 1867: New York City, Arthur Day, a 13-year-old boy, secretly took a loaded pistol to Public School No. 18 to shoot a dog he said had bitten him. While playing with the pistol, Day accidentally shot and injured classmate Robert Morton.

Your kidding, right?

Not even close.

It was a school shooting.

May 24, 1879: Lancaster, New York, Frank Shugart, a telegraph operator, shot and severely injured Mr. Carr, Superintendent of the stables at a girls' school.

Come on, what does that have to do with a student engaging in a mass shooting of fellow students?

Oh now it has to be a "mass" shooting.

You're spending too much time on ThinkProgress - seriously.

I never go that site.

At least this involved students, but still...


Shot by a burglar? Why are you posting stupid shit? You channeling your inner TDM?

At a school.

January 12, 1910: New York City, "A black bearded maniac drew an automatic pistol" and fired five shots into a crowd of the Harlem School boys. The kids were taunting him, so he shot into the crowd of children. Robert Lomas, aged 6, was hit in the heart and died instantly, Arthur Shively also aged 6 was shot through the left lung and critically wounded.

Guess students grew beards young back then....

Who said he was a student?

April 2, 1921: Syracuse, New York, Professor Holmes Beckwith shot and killed dean J. Herman Wharton in his office at Syracuse University before committing suicide.

February 15, 1927: Hempstead, New York, James O'Donnell, 18-year-old senior at Hempstead High School, shot himself to death on the stage in the school's auditorium. A suicide note stated that O'Donnell killed himself to lessen the financial burden on his family.

May 7, 1935: Irvington, New York, Dr. Paul Kyle, head of the Kyle School for Boys, was found shot to death in the school, just before classes were to begin for the day.

May 23, 1940: New York City, Infuriated by a grievance, Matthew Gillespie, 62-year-old janitor at the Dwight School for Girls, shot and critically wounded Mrs. Marshall Coxe, secretary of the junior school.

February 23, 1943: Port Chester, New York, Harry Wyman, 13, shot himself dead at the Harvey School, a boys’ preparatory school.

June 26, 1946: New York City, A 15-year-old student who balked at turning over his pocket money to a gang of seven youths was shot in the chest in the basement of the Public School 147 annex of the Brooklyn High School for Automotive Trades.

November 24, 1946: New York City, A 13-year-old student at St. Benedict’s Parochial School, shot and fatally wounded himself while sitting in an audience watching a school play.

December 24, 1948: New York City, A 14-year-old student was fatally wounded by a shot from the .22 caliber rifle of a fellow student Robert Ross, 17. The youth was accidentally shot in the head when he chanced into range where Ross was target shooting near a lake on the school property.

March 11, 1949: New York City, A 16-year-old student at Stuyvesant High School was accidentally shot in the arm by a fellow student who was ‘showing off’ with a pistol in a classroom.

July 22, 1950: New York City, A 16-year-old boy was shot in the wrist and abdomen at the Public School 141 dance during an argument with a former classmate.

June 4, 1951: New York City, Carl Arch, a 50-year-old intruder to a girl's gym class was shot and killed by a police officer at Manhattan's Central Commercial High School.

November 27, 1951: New York City, David Brooks, a 15-year-old student, was fatally shot as fellow pupils looked on in a grade school.

April 9, 1952: New York City, A 15-year-old boarding school student shot a dean rather than relinquish pin-up pictures of girls in bathing suits.

July 14, 1952: New York City, Bayard Peakes walked into the offices of the American Physical Society (APS) at Columbia University and shot and killed secretary Eileen Fahey with a .22 caliber pistol. Peakes was reportedly upset that the APS had rejected a pamphlet he had written.

April 27, 1966: Bay Shore, New York, Teacher John S. Lane, 48, was shot and fatally wounded when he tried to stop 16-year-old student James Arthur Frampton, who was walking through the halls of Bay Shore Senior High School with a shotgun, searching for some boys with whom he had an argument earlier that day. Lane died of his wounds on June 13, 1966.

List of school shootings in the United States

Demotivator__Epic_Fail.jpg

Well?
 
Well?

My point that in 1975 a Columbine type shooting had never occurred stands.

Your attempt to spin it to the left is an epic fail.

But whatchagunnado? :dunno:

List of school shootings in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Double down on the retardation!

Way to go, Shortbus.

I know, it's part of the DailyKOS talking points...

So...This is how you reply to facts. :rofl: :rofl: Yeah, I'd try to deflect if I were you too.
 
I'm really glad the kid's dad didn't own a AK47.

Why? If the kid had had a gun, it is likely that there would have been less injuries. Knives make no noise. Someone could kill several people before anyone knew what was happening. No so with a gun. The noise is unmistakable.

You fail yet again.

But he didn't have a gun. That is why they shouldn't even be mentioned.
 
Just to make sure......I ask for a show of hands.

Who among us believes that a crazy person with a knife is potentially more deadly/dangerous to a crowd of people than a crazy person with an AK-47?

I count two thus far. PredFan and TK.

Anyone else want to hop on that train to stupid?
 
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I don't think anything. He didn't use a gun.

Yeah! You are cool like that. Thanks for making that really cool point several times. We all need to brush up against your coolness.

I didn't go on a gun grab rant over a knife fight like you but yeah I am cool. Thank you for noticing,

Did I go on a gun grab rant? When? Where?

Link it, dummy.

In this thread and others we have nutters claiming that guns are more deadly than knives. I responded to that. You put on earmuffs......really cool earmuffs.

What do you think about that idea? You agree with PredFan that a dude with a knife can massacre more people than a dude with an AK-47.....because it is quieter? Got an opinion?
 
I had asked a few pages back if liberals could give us their brilliant plan to collect the 300 million guns in circulation.

Barb, the typical liberal moron, called that a "straw man" argument.

Liberals are hilarious. I think that is one of their scripts they go to when confronted with either logic or truth.

STRAW MAN!!! STRAW MAN!!!! STRAW MAN!!!!

So, will any liberal give us even a basic rudimentary idea of how you would go about confiscation all of the guns in circulation? How about jail space and jail time for those who not give up their guns?
 
I had asked a few pages back if liberals could give us their brilliant plan to collect the 300 million guns in circulation.

Barb, the typical liberal moron, called that a "straw man" argument.

Liberals are hilarious. I think that is one of their scripts they go to when confronted with either logic or truth.

STRAW MAN!!! STRAW MAN!!!! STRAW MAN!!!!

So, will any liberal give us even a basic rudimentary idea of how you would go about confiscation all of the guns in circulation? How about jail space and jail time for those who not give up their guns?

What percentage of liberals, in your opinion, abvocates confiscation of all guns in circulation?

Please....don't allow you imagined liberal interfere with reality liberal. It makes the discussion so fucking boring.
 
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I had asked a few pages back if liberals could give us their brilliant plan to collect the 300 million guns in circulation.

Barb, the typical liberal moron, called that a "straw man" argument.

Liberals are hilarious. I think that is one of their scripts they go to when confronted with either logic or truth.

STRAW MAN!!! STRAW MAN!!!! STRAW MAN!!!!

So, will any liberal give us even a basic rudimentary idea of how you would go about confiscation all of the guns in circulation? How about jail space and jail time for those who not give up their guns?

What percentage of liberals, in your opinion, abvocates confiscation of all guns in circulation?

Please....don't allow you imagined liberal interfere with reality liberal. It makes the discussion so fucking boring.

Oh, many of them say they are not advocating that, but they truly are.

Most of them do not know they are pawns pushing the real agenda of the elite commie/socialist left.

Most of them have no idea what the art of "incrementalism" is. They will claim they want stricter back ground checks. If and when they get that (btw there are back ground checks) they will push it a little further when the next violent act happens with a gun. So on and so forth.

How to Ban Guns: A step by step, long term process

Like I said most of them, especially the ones that post on this board, have no idea they are puppets for their masters who want true control and where communism is their ultimate goal.
 
I had asked a few pages back if liberals could give us their brilliant plan to collect the 300 million guns in circulation.

Barb, the typical liberal moron, called that a "straw man" argument.

Liberals are hilarious. I think that is one of their scripts they go to when confronted with either logic or truth.

STRAW MAN!!! STRAW MAN!!!! STRAW MAN!!!!

So, will any liberal give us even a basic rudimentary idea of how you would go about confiscation all of the guns in circulation? How about jail space and jail time for those who not give up their guns?

What percentage of liberals, in your opinion, abvocates confiscation of all guns in circulation?

Please....don't allow you imagined liberal interfere with reality liberal. It makes the discussion so fucking boring.

Oh, many of them say they are not advocating that, but they truly are.

Most of them do not know they are pawns pushing the real agenda of the elite commie/socialist left.

Most of them have no idea what the art of "incrementalism" is. They will claim they want stricter back ground checks. If and when they get that (btw there are back ground checks) they will push it a little further when the next violent act happens with a gun. So on and so forth.

How to Ban Guns: A step by step, long term process

Like I said most of them, especially the ones that post on this board, have no idea they are puppets for their masters who want true control and where communism is their ultimate goal.

Is that right? Even though I don't advocate banning all guns, I am an advocate for banning all guns? Because I am stupid?

Cool.
 

Well?

My point that in 1975 a Columbine type shooting had never occurred stands.

Your attempt to spin it to the left is an epic fail.

But whatchagunnado? :dunno:

Spin it to the left?

Brother, you're spinning like a top!!

You said there was never a school shooting before 1975 or something to that effect and then when you are shown that not to be true you change it to "mass" shootings and now to "Columbine type" shootings.

The deadliest mass murder in a school didn't even involve firearms. Oh but that wouldn't fit your narrative.

December 30, 1974: Olean, New York, Regents scholar Anthony Barbaro, 17, armed with a rifle and shotgun, kills three adults and wounds 11 others at his high school, which was closed for the Christmas holiday. Barbaro was reportedly a loner who kept a diary describing several "battle plans" for his attack on the school

Will you admit you were wrong now?

November 12, 1966: Mesa, Arizona, Bob Smith, 18, took seven people hostage at Rose-Mar College of Beauty. Smith ordered the hostages to lie down on the floor in a circle. He then proceeded to shoot them in the head with a 22 caliber pistol. Four women and a three-year-old girl died, one woman and a baby were injured but survived. Police arrested Smith after the massacre. Smith had reportedly admired Richard Speck and Charles Whitman.

Of course you won't.
 

Well?

My point that in 1975 a Columbine type shooting had never occurred stands.

Your attempt to spin it to the left is an epic fail.

But whatchagunnado? :dunno:

Spin it to the left?

Brother, you're spinning like a top!!

You said there was never a school shooting before 1975 or something to that effect and then when you are shown that not to be true you change it to "mass" shootings and now to "Columbine type" shootings.

The deadliest mass murder in a school didn't even involve firearms. Oh but that wouldn't fit your narrative.

December 30, 1974: Olean, New York, Regents scholar Anthony Barbaro, 17, armed with a rifle and shotgun, kills three adults and wounds 11 others at his high school, which was closed for the Christmas holiday. Barbaro was reportedly a loner who kept a diary describing several "battle plans" for his attack on the school

Will you admit you were wrong now?

November 12, 1966: Mesa, Arizona, Bob Smith, 18, took seven people hostage at Rose-Mar College of Beauty. Smith ordered the hostages to lie down on the floor in a circle. He then proceeded to shoot them in the head with a 22 caliber pistol. Four women and a three-year-old girl died, one woman and a baby were injured but survived. Police arrested Smith after the massacre. Smith had reportedly admired Richard Speck and Charles Whitman.

Of course you won't.

What's this? Nutter on nutter discontent? A rare and refreshing occurrence. Shower each other with truth.
 

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