MASSIVE SHOOTING in MAINE RIGHT NOW and shooter on the lose

[2aguy]

There are more guns in this country than anywhere on Earth by far -- but we obviously aren't safer?


So when does this gun-owner threshold kick in? A billion guns, 40 trillion, when?

Wrong...that is a lie.....history shows that gun control murders millions....

Europe...

In the 1920s, they began the process of registering guns....to make their people safer. That was the lie. by the mid 1930s, the socialists in Germany began the process of banning and confiscating guns, and the same for the countries they defeated......

By 1939, the German socialists began to murder 15 million - 20 million people....in 6 years.....men, women and over 1 million children.

6 years, 15 million- 20 million murdered citizens..not war dead, innocent people rounded up and murdered in camps and forests....

15 million in 6 years.

In the United States, gun murder for our entire 247 year history?

Around 2,470,000

Europe.... 15-20 million in 6 years.

U.S..... 2,470,000 in 247 years.

Now the math part...get out your pencil....

How many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up with the number of Europeans murdered by their governments.....

Show your work.

 

[hadit]

While ARMED cops stand around while children are being slaughtered.

Which makes the case for more civilians to be armed even stronger. If the cops won't defend children, somebody will.

The alternative, which you won't verbally admit you buy into, is for everyone to stand around defenseless while a shooter guns down his victims at his leisure until a cop actually tries to take him down.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

nice try Bipp. If it was a big deal we all would have heard about it. Your manufactured BS is not of interest to normal people.

We did all hear about it -- but since you are a Trump sycophant, anything your cult leader does is instantly justified and later memory-holed

Like how you morons memory holed this little gem:


"I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida … to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence. “Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

Trump: ‘Take the guns first, go through due process second’

President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights. “I like taking the guns early, like in thi…

thehill.com

Now of that was Biden who said that, you folks would have a fucking hissy fit....when it is Trump, who cares...because let's be honest, even you folks know Trump is a moron, you can't admit it, so you gotta deflect -- so yall discount most of what he says....because as long as he hates the same people you hate, policies don't matter....

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Wrong...that is a lie.....history shows that gun control murders millions....

Europe...

In the 1920s, they began the process of registering guns....to make their people safer. That was the lie. by the mid 1930s, the socialists in Germany began the process of banning and confiscating guns, and the same for the countries they defeated......

By 1939, the German socialists began to murder 15 million - 20 million people....in 6 years.....men, women and over 1 million children.

6 years, 15 million- 20 million murdered citizens..not war dead, innocent people rounded up and murdered in camps and forests....

15 million in 6 years.

In the United States, gun murder for our entire 247 year history?

Around 2,470,000

Europe.... 15-20 million in 6 years.

U.S..... 2,470,000 in 247 years.

Now the math part...get out your pencil....

How many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up with the number of Europeans murdered by their governments.....

Show your work.

So America is safe and not a hell hole of American carnage as yall always claim when the president isn't a Republican?

Cool..

So how many guns do you think achieved this level of safety?? was it when we hit the 10 million mark, 50 million mark, when?

 

[leftwinger]

That's exactly what he means. Anyone with half a brain knows that no one paid those extreme tax rates in the 50's, except on maybe a very small percentage of their income. They also know that the wealthy are not stupid and will make sure that the bulk of their income is shielded from taxation. In the most extreme cases, they simply uproot and move to another country that doesn't seek to punish them.

I always like to tell a pro-taxer, "Sure, let's bring back the high tax rates, but make sure we also bring back all the loopholes. It would be nice to deduct credit card interest again". For some reason, they don't have a lot of enthusiasm for those measures all of a sudden.

He keeps ignoring those facts in every single thread. Billionaires don't draw paychecks so forget about "income tax". You can't impose a Stock trade Tax on "only them"? can you?

You could raise Property taxes to 95% for homes above ~$25million? But then they move. Maybe out of the Country, as you say.

How do you raise the Business tax to 90% on only companies that the "rich" own?

There are no easy Constitutional answers. If there were.....DemWitted loons may have found it by now? 11 years of Obiden found nothing? Or they did not look? because they are them?

 

[francoHFW]

You greedy worthless idiot Leftest assholes think that "taxing the rich" is the solution to all your problems. You dumb fuck.

flat tax system like we have is a disaster, brainwashed functional moron. Politically of course...

 

[hadit]

What is needed to kill is the will to kill! I don't see that happening.

That's exactly why mass murderers choose gun-free zones like schools, churches and bars. They know they will have an uninterrupted period of time before any weapons show up to oppose them in which to kill as many as possible. Notice that they don't go into places where people are known to be armed, because they will likely meet return fire within the first few minutes instead of just panicked screaming.

 

[2aguy]

While ARMED cops stand around while children are being slaughtered.

Yep....that is why civilians need to be able to have a gun


These events........mass public shooters armed with AR-15 rifles, stopped by civilians who only had handguns....

Indiana mall shooting...



Fifteen seconds after the shooting began, Elisjsha Dicken, a legally-armed 22-year-old man from Seymour, engaged the shooter in a gunfight. Dicken, a civilian bystander, was shopping with his girlfriend when the perpetrator opened fire.[7] From a distance of forty yards, Dicken fired ten rounds from a Glock handgun, hitting the shooter eight times. The shooter fired once, and attempted to retreat into the restroom, but instead fell to the ground and died soon afterwards.[8][9][10]



Afterward, Dicken approached security guards at the mall, informed them that he had neutralized the shooter, and waited for police to arrive.[7]



Greenwood Park Mall shooting - Wikipedia







West Virginia woman....



Witnesses said Butler seemed agitated and left but returned to the complex shortly after, armed with an AR-15 style rifle, and started shooting at the crowd.

Police said a woman pulled out her pistol, shooting and killing him.

"This lady was carrying a lawful firearm," Hazelett said. "A law abiding citizen who stopped the threat of probably 20 or 30 people getting killed. She engaged the threat and stopped it. She didn't run from the threat, she engaged it. Preventing a mass casualty event here in Charleston."






Woman credited with stopping mass shooting at apartment complex in West Virginia

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[hadit]

flat tax system like we have is a disaster, brainwashed functional moron. Politically of course...

We don't have a flat tax. You know, you would be a lot more credible in your arguments if you displayed more knowledge about them.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

There is open carry here in Texas......guess what there is a lot of here in Texas....mass shootings....

Very doubtful your statement is true
A report from the Congressional Research Service (CRS) cites the FBI in its definition of mass murder: “a multiple homicide incident in which four or more victims are murdered, within one event, and in one or more locations in close geographical proximity.

What is considered a mass shooting?

The FBI defines an active shooter as an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area, but the definition of mass shooting is less clear.

usafacts.org

 

[2aguy]

So America is safe and not a hell hole of American carnage as yall always claim when the president isn't a Republican?

Cool..

So how many guns do you think achieved this level of safety?? was it when we hit the 10 million mark, 50 million mark, when?

The inability of the government to confiscate guns was when we became safer..........again, look at the 15-20 million murdered in Europe after they banned guns......we don't even come close to that.

 

[2aguy]

There is open carry here in Texas......guess what there is a lot of here in Texas....mass shootings....

California has more mass public shootings with all of their gun control laws...you doofus...

 

[leftwinger]

What is needed to kill is the will to kill! I don't see that happening.

Once BIG GOVT allows the crazy to get a weapon, ammunition, dope them up and send them out..............by then it is too late? How did the Uvalde loon get five expensive guns/ammo working part time at McDonalds? Who left the door open? BIG GOVT allowed the nut to pass a background check? He had a history on social media posting "I am going to shoot up a school".
The local Police were nearly 3 minutes behind. 99% of the damage was already done and he was holed up firing down the halllway at the Police. Bodecca thinks they should just run in thru the bullet barrage?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

I said back in Obiden 1.0.....it will take a door to door ILLINOS STATE Guard to go round up all Felons and illegal weapons in CHICAGO. The ghetto areas will have to be swept to stop the TEN shooting per night (2 dead everyday). Decent Blacks would cheer it. I was lambasted. OBiden did nothing for 8 dreadful years.

Big problems require big action. I am a doer. I would get things done. USA has the tooling.

So who is going to be the party/administration/etc to implement a policy of going to door to door to exclusively black homes and taking their guns?



Funny how the shit you folks panic about "they are coming take our guns" -- are policies you actually want to implement yourselves..as long as it is aimed at black people....


But that is why gun control was created in the first place..thanks for confirming that...


"The bill limiting the right to openly carry loaded guns was supported by the National Rifle Association and signed into law by then Gov. Ronald Regan in 1967. "It says that the Second Amendment does not apply to Black people," said Buck. "It's the only time the NRA has ever wanted to respond with more gun restrictions. It had never happened and hasn't happened since."

The NRA supported gun restrictions once in California. Is it rooted in racism?

With 10-day waiting periods, universal background checks, and open-carry restrictions, California has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country. Here's why one expert says they're rooted in racism.

abc7news.com

 

[leftwinger]

We don't have a flat tax. You know, you would be a lot more credible in your arguments if you displayed more knowledge about them.

Correct. Income tax is 11-22% for most working folk. >38% on upper income WORKERS. The key word is INCOME. But Franc is too jaded to understand that one word.

 

[francoHFW]

We don't have a flat tax. You know, you would be a lot more credible in your arguments if you displayed more knowledge about them.

If you count ALL taxes, it's a flat tax. And a disaster...google the only tax graph you need to know....and the demise of the middle class, dunces.

 

[hadit]

You greedy worthless idiot Leftest assholes think that "taxing the rich" is the solution to all your problems. You dumb fuck.

I believe they literally wouldn't care a bit if more revenue actually made it to the government, as long as they could feel good about socking it to a rich guy.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

California has more mass public shootings with all of their gun control laws...you doofus...

And this has what to do with Texas?

Your claim was being an open carry state meant, less gun crimes, especially mass shootings..

Pointing at California doesn't make that go away -- why can't you address Texas?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

I believe they literally wouldn't care a bit if more revenue actually made it to the government, as long as they could feel good about socking it to a rich guy.

When yall rail about the globalist and wealthy elites? Do yall just be doing it because you don't really want to come out and say "Jews"

Because as soon as we talk about raising the top marginal tax rate by 3% -- yall whine like bitches......why do you cape up for those wealthy elite like you do? Do you think they will pat you on the head and call you a good boy?

 

[leftwinger]

So who is going to be the party/administration/etc to implement a policy of going to door to door to exclusively black homes and taking their guns?



Funny how the shit you folks panic about "they are coming take our guns" -- are policies you actually want to implement yourselves..as long as it is aimed at black people....


But that is why gun control was created in the first place..thanks for confirming that...


"The bill limiting the right to openly carry loaded guns was supported by the National Rifle Association and signed into law by then Gov. Ronald Regan in 1967. "It says that the Second Amendment does not apply to Black people," said Buck. "It's the only time the NRA has ever wanted to respond with more gun restrictions. It had never happened and hasn't happened since."

The NRA supported gun restrictions once in California. Is it rooted in racism?

With 10-day waiting periods, universal background checks, and open-carry restrictions, California has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country. Here's why one expert says they're rooted in racism.

abc7news.com

I said the Illinois NATL Guard. It may take years. Where are the shooting? Inner cities. Who is doing 99% of the shootings? Inner city residents. Yes, mostly Black. Mostly with illegal firearms. You got to take away the illegal guns and lock up those with those guns if need be.

Maybe they could have two weeks to turn them in? No questions asked. LOL! midnight basketball.