Maybe democrats should focus on Americans issues and not foreigners and we won’t have shootings..

[Rigby5]

El Paso today white guy shoots up walmart targeting hispanic population in the hopes of getting at least a few illegals. A manifesto was left behind mention that there would be a shooting and it may or may not be one posted by the shooter

It spoke of a “Hispanic invasion of Texas.” It detailed a plan to separate America into territories by race. It warned that white people were being replaced by foreigners.

He's right they are being replaced. What he was too stupid to realize is that the vast majority of the brown-skinned people in El Paso are Americans. Being that stupid and factoring in extreme violence can only mean he's a liberal. Democrat, Republican, Independent, or shape-shifting alien, he's a liberal idiot.

Even more important is that we need to remember that El Paso used to be all native.
The US bought Texas, but was not supposed to harm or displace the natives who were about the only inhabitants.
We instead violated the treaties and forced almost all the natives to leave, or murdered them.

Because they refused to assimilate.. and we conquered Mexico

So would you think it was ok if someone with superior weapons conquered us and made us assimilate?
Who would want to assimilate into a culture that would condone mass murder, slavery, and theft?
We pretend we are better than that now because we technically made slavery illegal, but the reality is that we still have slavery but instead do it by hidden economic constraints to replace whips and chains.

Yes I do think democrats own urban slave plantations, but those people have options and sanctuary if they choose to vote differently .

If someone wants to take this land then they should try, just declare war first don’t do it by disguise As you can see 26 are dead now because democrats have flooded our country with people not welcome

What is your basis for deciding what is right or wrong?
If you don't think it is honorable to cheat instead of just declaring war and invading, then what do you think about all those treaties we fooled the natives with and eventually broke?
If we had not lied and cheated, so you think early colonies like Jamestown would have ever survived?
When we bought all those states from Mexico, we signed treaties that Mexicans would retain full property and travel rights.
So then why did we steal their homes, chase them out, and prevent their return?
You claim they are not welcome, but legally they own most of the parcels of land under Spanish land grants we claimed we were going to honor..

 

[Unkotare]

Some absolutely worthless fucking scumbags on this thread have actually been celebrating an act of mass murder. There is and never will be an excuse for that.

 

[Rigby5]

Anyone excusing or celebrating the act of a sick mass murderer is the lowest kind of un-American, inhuman piece of shit.

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I don't know about that.
Almost all these mass murders were people in a great deal of pain, and society did nothing at all to help them or even show any concern.
It is quite likely that since there are so many mass murders, that they are excusable, and it is not the fault of the individuals as much as society as a whole.
Since they mostly commit suicide in the process, it can not be motivated by greed, desire, power, money, or anything corrupt.
It likely really is our fault for not making society less competitive, more secure, more opportunities, less expensive, more self determination, more freedom, more free time, less unjust wars, etc.

This kind of thinking is how and why leftist bullshit undermines societies. Suicidally stupid. If you want to look at macro factors for causes and solutions that's all well and good (though rarely useful), but that piece of shit who pulled that trigger is still the individual responsible and needs to be held to the same standard as any other rabid animal. You may want to look for societal causes for a mad dog running through the streets biting people, you may feel bad for that dog, but you still have to put it down first and foremost for the good of society. The more pertinent point here is that some absolutely worthless fucking scumbags on this thread have actually been celebrating an act of mass murder. There is and never will be an excuse for that.

That is not only foolish because they are already dead from their own hand, but because so many are doing it that clearly it can't be their fault.
A mad dog is one with rabies, that is not their fault and there is no fix for.
A suicidal mass murder can be fixed.
Redemption has to always be a possibility or else we are the ones who have lost our humanity.

But I will agree that celebrating mass murder would have to be wrong.
Even when necessary, any deaths should never be celebrated.
For example, I thought it was evil when we celebrated "Shock and Awe".

 

[Rigby5]

Natives to North, Central, or South America, are Americans.
European immigrants who inhabit the US are not really Americans.
Did you mean US citizens instead of Americans?

Is proud to be an American sung in Spanish daily like it is in the USA? Then they ain’t American .. we all knew what he meant..

It is not good enough to just know what he meant, because a careless use of language allows careless thinking.
And we need to not be so careless as to forget we are mostly European immigrants who murdered our way into Manifest Destiny.
Some local native culture is not likely such a bad thing.
The European culture we brought with us is a little too greedy, selfish, and violent.

Actually no it was the Spanish that killed murdered and brought slaves.. Indians signed a treaty.. we lived in a conquering era if dumbasses thought like you back then well first your clan would have been wiped out, but second there would be no America, which had brought great prosperity to millions in the world..
you don’t like the word assimilate, you don’t like American history, you don’t like how we Americans phrase things.. well move out snow flake.. as you can see for the shooting some Americans aren’t playing around any more

No, the Spanish used the natives, so did not bring slaves or murder.
The only exception were the islands, like Jamaica, where they brought slaves for the sugar trade.
It was the Northern Europeans who did the most slavery, and slavery was not big in the New World until the invention of the cotton gin in 1794.

We did not live in a conquering era, we created the conquering era.
The Romans started it, but it had died out when the Romans were defeated and died out.
We brought it back.

The US probably brought much more misery to the world than anything else.
The shootings are also usually suicides, so then clearly they were in misery and they are proof we got things wrong.
This is not the Mediterranean with its legacy of imperialism and colonialism.
We should not be trying to revive Roman imperialism and colonialism in the New World.
We are the ones who should be assimilating, not the natives.

From the sick twisted mind of a pre mass-murdering liberal.

What parts do you disagree with?

 

[Jitss617]

He's right they are being replaced. What he was too stupid to realize is that the vast majority of the brown-skinned people in El Paso are Americans. Being that stupid and factoring in extreme violence can only mean he's a liberal. Democrat, Republican, Independent, or shape-shifting alien, he's a liberal idiot.

Even more important is that we need to remember that El Paso used to be all native.
The US bought Texas, but was not supposed to harm or displace the natives who were about the only inhabitants.
We instead violated the treaties and forced almost all the natives to leave, or murdered them.

Because they refused to assimilate.. and we conquered Mexico

So would you think it was ok if someone with superior weapons conquered us and made us assimilate?
Who would want to assimilate into a culture that would condone mass murder, slavery, and theft?
We pretend we are better than that now because we technically made slavery illegal, but the reality is that we still have slavery but instead do it by hidden economic constraints to replace whips and chains.

Yes I do think democrats own urban slave plantations, but those people have options and sanctuary if they choose to vote differently .

If someone wants to take this land then they should try, just declare war first don’t do it by disguise As you can see 26 are dead now because democrats have flooded our country with people not welcome

What is your basis for deciding what is right or wrong?
If you don't think it is honorable to cheat instead of just declaring war and invading, then what do you think about all those treaties we fooled the natives with and eventually broke?
If we had not lied and cheated, so you think early colonies like Jamestown would have ever survived?
When we bought all those states from Mexico, we signed treaties that Mexicans would retain full property and travel rights.
So then why did we steal their homes, chase them out, and prevent their return?
You claim they are not welcome, but legally they own most of the parcels of land under Spanish land grants we claimed we were going to honor..

It’s all about culture and if you don’t assimilate to the dominant culture then you will by choice leave. We have a free country free speech if I ask you to speak english every day and that bothers you you will eventually leave..
if you’re doing stupid indian culture and we say hey can you do that somewhere else.. it’s not that we force you to leave, you just can’t handle criticism and free speech.

 

[Rigby5]

Even more important is that we need to remember that El Paso used to be all native.
The US bought Texas, but was not supposed to harm or displace the natives who were about the only inhabitants.
We instead violated the treaties and forced almost all the natives to leave, or murdered them.

Because they refused to assimilate.. and we conquered Mexico

So would you think it was ok if someone with superior weapons conquered us and made us assimilate?
Who would want to assimilate into a culture that would condone mass murder, slavery, and theft?
We pretend we are better than that now because we technically made slavery illegal, but the reality is that we still have slavery but instead do it by hidden economic constraints to replace whips and chains.

I hear England is nice, why don't you move there?

My ancestors were from Holland and Austria.
But I fit in better here because I think more like a native, and I can do more to prevent evil imperialism and colonialism here.
You should want to do that also, since it would make things better for everyone here.

So, slavers huh?

No, they immigrated after slavery was illegal, around 1880. But they moved into segregated areas, and did become as racist as most in those areas. I just have to remember they did not know any better.

 

[Unkotare]

.....

This county’s culture is white......

Wrong.

This is the kind of ignorant stupidity that losers cling to because they have nothing - NOTHING worthwhile about themselves personally that they can point to (even privately in their own little minds). Worthless idiots like the one who posted that ^^^^ nonsense cannot understand or appreciate my great nation. Therefore, they will never be real Americans in the most important sense.

 

[Unkotare]

... We have a free country free speech if I ask you to speak english [sic] every day and that bothers you you will eventually leave [sic].......

You need to learn English before you ask that of anyone else, and you need to read the Constitution to understand why it's such a fucking stupid thing to say in the first place.

 

[Rigby5]

Natives to North, Central, or South America, are Americans.
European immigrants who inhabit the US are not really Americans.
Did you mean US citizens instead of Americans?

Is proud to be an American sung in Spanish daily like it is in the USA? Then they ain’t American .. we all knew what he meant..

It is not good enough to just know what he meant, because a careless use of language allows careless thinking.
And we need to not be so careless as to forget we are mostly European immigrants who murdered our way into Manifest Destiny.
Some local native culture is not likely such a bad thing.
The European culture we brought with us is a little too greedy, selfish, and violent.

Actually no it was the Spanish that killed murdered and brought slaves.. Indians signed a treaty.. we lived in a conquering era if dumbasses thought like you back then well first your clan would have been wiped out, but second there would be no America, which had brought great prosperity to millions in the world..
you don’t like the word assimilate, you don’t like American history, you don’t like how we Americans phrase things.. well move out snow flake.. as you can see for the shooting some Americans aren’t playing around any more

No, the Spanish used the natives, so did not bring slaves or murder.
The only exception were the islands, like Jamaica, where they brought slaves for the sugar trade.
It was the Northern Europeans who did the most slavery, and slavery was not big in the New World until the invention of the cotton gin in 1794.

We did not live in a conquering era, we created the conquering era.
The Romans started it, but it had died out when the Romans were defeated and died out.
We brought it back.

The US probably brought much more misery to the world than anything else.
The shootings are also usually suicides, so then clearly they were in misery and they are proof we got things wrong.
This is not the Mediterranean with its legacy of imperialism and colonialism.
We should not be trying to revive Roman imperialism and colonialism in the New World.
We are the ones who should be assimilating, not the natives.

You are wrong,, every one had slaves , we have 41 million today. Tribes had black slaves.. blacks owned slaves.. blacks kidnapped tribes and sold them, black Americans breed blacks to sell when most whites were against it.

This county’s culture is white, and if you want to live here you should assimilate.. or declare war.. unless you like mass shootings

No, less than 5% of the population had slaves.
Tribes did not have slaves for profit.
They had slaves the way we have tenants, POWs, or incarcerated law breakers.
They were not mistreated or harmed for profits.

Blacks did not kidnap tribes.
It was mostly Arabs, Spanish, or French who ran the slave trade.
Black US citizens did not breed children to sell.

The culture in the US is Roman, not white, and it is evil.
It should be destroyed and a better culture created to replace it.
We will have to eventually, since imperialism and colonialism can't work once the world is over populated.
Clearly it is imperialism and colonialism that causes mass shootings/suicides.

 

[Unkotare]

.... so many are doing it that clearly it can't be their fault.
.....

That is illogical, irresponsible, and inexcusably stupid. The leftist fear of personal responsibility has become fatally extreme.

 

[Rigby5]

Even more important is that we need to remember that El Paso used to be all native.
The US bought Texas, but was not supposed to harm or displace the natives who were about the only inhabitants.
We instead violated the treaties and forced almost all the natives to leave, or murdered them.

Because they refused to assimilate.. and we conquered Mexico

So would you think it was ok if someone with superior weapons conquered us and made us assimilate?
Who would want to assimilate into a culture that would condone mass murder, slavery, and theft?
We pretend we are better than that now because we technically made slavery illegal, but the reality is that we still have slavery but instead do it by hidden economic constraints to replace whips and chains.

Yes I do think democrats own urban slave plantations, but those people have options and sanctuary if they choose to vote differently .

If someone wants to take this land then they should try, just declare war first don’t do it by disguise As you can see 26 are dead now because democrats have flooded our country with people not welcome

What is your basis for deciding what is right or wrong?
If you don't think it is honorable to cheat instead of just declaring war and invading, then what do you think about all those treaties we fooled the natives with and eventually broke?
If we had not lied and cheated, so you think early colonies like Jamestown would have ever survived?
When we bought all those states from Mexico, we signed treaties that Mexicans would retain full property and travel rights.
So then why did we steal their homes, chase them out, and prevent their return?
You claim they are not welcome, but legally they own most of the parcels of land under Spanish land grants we claimed we were going to honor..

It’s all about culture and if you don’t assimilate to the dominant culture then you will by choice leave. We have a free country free speech if I ask you to speak english every day and that bothers you you will eventually leave..
if you’re doing stupid indian culture and we say hey can you do that somewhere else.. it’s not that we force you to leave, you just can’t handle criticism and free speech.

Human civilization advances by people not accepting the evils of the past.
I speak English as my first language, but am learning German and Spanish.
Everyone has the responsibility to try to accommodate other cultures because they all have good points worth understanding.
North American is the source of some of the best native culture in the world.
The whole idea for a democratic republic, the rebellion from England, etc., came from the Iroquois Federation.

 

[Rigby5]

... We have a free country free speech if I ask you to speak english [sic] every day and that bothers you you will eventually leave [sic].......

You need to learn English before you ask that of anyone else, and you need to read the Constitution to understand why it's such a fucking stupid thing to say in the first place.

Yes it is humorous to see so many spelling and grammar mistakes in a demand for the use of English.
But the irony of someone saying we have freedom and then try to take away freedom from others, is rich.

 

[Rigby5]

.... so many are doing it that clearly it can't be their fault.
.....

That is illogical, irresponsible, and inexcusably stupid. The leftist fear of personal responsibility has become fatally extreme.

But that is the point.
When something becomes so wide spread, then likely it is not the fault of the individuals, but something systemic.
And you can't stop something where the perpetrators kill themselves.
Clearly enhanced penalties is not going to work.
Instead we must focus on what we are doing wrong in society as a whole.
THAT IS OUR fault and responsibility to fix.

 

[Jitss617]

.....

This county’s culture is white......

Wrong.

This is the kind of ignorant stupidity that losers cling to because they have nothing - NOTHING worthwhile about themselves personally that they can point to (even privately in their own little minds). Worthless idiots like the one who posted that ^^^^ nonsense cannot understand or appreciate my great nation. Therefore, they will never be real Americans in the most important sense.

Did someone of color sign or help frame the constitution? Declaration of Independence ? Anything?

 

[Jitss617]

... We have a free country free speech if I ask you to speak english [sic] every day and that bothers you you will eventually leave [sic].......

You need to learn English before you ask that of anyone else, and you need to read the Constitution to understand why it's such a fucking stupid thing to say in the first place.

Where does it say free people who are assimilated can’t ask a individual to respect our heritage?

 

[keepitreal]

just my opinion..

We spend all day talking about foreigners, Muslims trying to bomb us.. and we have kids dying of over doses. Broken families, no opportunity, free speech is limited.....

Free speech is not limited, there is more opportunity in my great nation than any other country in the world, broken families and drug abuse are certainly nothing new. It is completely illogical to blame the very limited attention paid to international news for domestic problems at home. I'm not at all surprised that you have no idea what logic is.

Stop with the pessimistic, illogical whining and worry about getting your own shit together, kid.

Free speech IS MOST CERTAINLY LIMITED!

 

[Jitss617]

Is proud to be an American sung in Spanish daily like it is in the USA? Then they ain’t American .. we all knew what he meant..

It is not good enough to just know what he meant, because a careless use of language allows careless thinking.
And we need to not be so careless as to forget we are mostly European immigrants who murdered our way into Manifest Destiny.
Some local native culture is not likely such a bad thing.
The European culture we brought with us is a little too greedy, selfish, and violent.

Actually no it was the Spanish that killed murdered and brought slaves.. Indians signed a treaty.. we lived in a conquering era if dumbasses thought like you back then well first your clan would have been wiped out, but second there would be no America, which had brought great prosperity to millions in the world..
you don’t like the word assimilate, you don’t like American history, you don’t like how we Americans phrase things.. well move out snow flake.. as you can see for the shooting some Americans aren’t playing around any more

No, the Spanish used the natives, so did not bring slaves or murder.
The only exception were the islands, like Jamaica, where they brought slaves for the sugar trade.
It was the Northern Europeans who did the most slavery, and slavery was not big in the New World until the invention of the cotton gin in 1794.

We did not live in a conquering era, we created the conquering era.
The Romans started it, but it had died out when the Romans were defeated and died out.
We brought it back.

The US probably brought much more misery to the world than anything else.
The shootings are also usually suicides, so then clearly they were in misery and they are proof we got things wrong.
This is not the Mediterranean with its legacy of imperialism and colonialism.
We should not be trying to revive Roman imperialism and colonialism in the New World.
We are the ones who should be assimilating, not the natives.

You are wrong,, every one had slaves , we have 41 million today. Tribes had black slaves.. blacks owned slaves.. blacks kidnapped tribes and sold them, black Americans breed blacks to sell when most whites were against it.

This county’s culture is white, and if you want to live here you should assimilate.. or declare war.. unless you like mass shootings

No, less than 5% of the population had slaves.
Tribes did not have slaves for profit.
They had slaves the way we have tenants, POWs, or incarcerated law breakers.
They were not mistreated or harmed for profits.

Blacks did not kidnap tribes.
It was mostly Arabs, Spanish, or French who ran the slave trade.
Black US citizens did not breed children to sell.

The culture in the US is Roman, not white, and it is evil.
It should be destroyed and a better culture created to replace it.
We will have to eventually, since imperialism and colonialism can't work once the world is over populated.
Clearly it is imperialism and colonialism that causes mass shootings/suicides.

Your are stating fallacies and opinions. So cool story.. of you want this come and take it.. don’t hide, come out declare war. If not enjoy the show lol

 

[Jitss617]

... We have a free country free speech if I ask you to speak english [sic] every day and that bothers you you will eventually leave [sic].......

You need to learn English before you ask that of anyone else, and you need to read the Constitution to understand why it's such a fucking stupid thing to say in the first place.

Yes it is humorous to see so many spelling and grammar mistakes in a demand for the use of English.
But the irony of someone saying we have freedom and then try to take away freedom from others, is rich.

I vote for freedom.. you seem to want to own people

 

[Unkotare]

.... so many are doing it that clearly it can't be their fault.
.....

That is illogical, irresponsible, and inexcusably stupid. The leftist fear of personal responsibility has become fatally extreme.

But that is the point.
When something becomes so wide spread, then likely it is not the fault of the individuals, but something systemic.
And you can't stop something where the perpetrators kill themselves.
Clearly enhanced penalties is not going to work.
Instead we must focus on what we are doing wrong in society as a whole.
THAT IS OUR fault and responsibility to fix.

Absolute bullshit. What you are doing wrong is avoiding personal responsibility like the plague. It’s a major manifestation of the democrat mental illness. You want to put the cart about 100 miles before the horse.

 

[Unkotare]

just my opinion..

We spend all day talking about foreigners, Muslims trying to bomb us.. and we have kids dying of over doses. Broken families, no opportunity, free speech is limited.....

Free speech is not limited, there is more opportunity in my great nation than any other country in the world, broken families and drug abuse are certainly nothing new. It is completely illogical to blame the very limited attention paid to international news for domestic problems at home. I'm not at all surprised that you have no idea what logic is.

Stop with the pessimistic, illogical whining and worry about getting your own shit together, kid.

Free speech IS MOST CERTAINLY LIMITED!

No more limited now than it has always been inherently.