Media Matter Blames Beck!

[Mr. Shaman]

Ya' can't keep those Beck-fans outta-the-news!!!​

"A knife is a very personal weapon. To stab somebody repeatedly, there has to be some rage going on," he said."​

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

 

[daveman]

OK Einstein, then you can answer the question. What would a Soviet conservative look like?

What values, tenets, orthodoxy and beliefs would a conservative in Russia want to 'conserve'?

I'll be waiting...

He'd want to send his kid to a private school, want to give the government the bare minimum because the government should be reduced to a bare minimum and he'd want to pray to whatever God he wanted to.

Gee Frank, it just so happens that the Soviet Union had it's own version of the teabaggers when Mikhail Gorbachev tried to westernize Russia's government...

When the ‘tea partiers’ say “we want our country back”, what do they mean by ‘our’?

What polls show us about the ‘tea party’ is that they are a fringe group diametrically opposed to mainstream America. Among all Americans, George W. Bush has a 27/58 positive/negative favorable rating. Among the ‘tea party’ he's viewed favorably, 57/27. An almost perfect diametrical difference.

Is there any precedent in history of today’s the ‘tea party’?

The answer is YES…a parallel to the 'Tea Party" occurred in Russia in the late 1980's. Russian conservatives, the Stalinists, wanted 'their' country back. It was an alliance including xenophobic fringe groups and nationalists who yearned for what they saw as the simple values of Old Russia and the Orthodox church.

And like today’s ‘tea partiers’, they wanted their authoritarian government back.
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February 27, 1989

Soviet Conservatives Try to Turn Back the Clock on Gorbachev's Policies

MOSCOW, Feb. 26— Russian conservatives, uneasy with the liberalization of Soviet society under Mikhail S. Gorbachev, have seized on the country's experiment in more democratic elections as a chance to fight for a return to more authoritarian ways.

While many candidates and voters say they view the elections to the new Congress of Deputies as a way to further the candor and freedoms allowed by the Soviet leader, conservatives in this city and around the country were boasting last week that they had already succeeded in blocking the nomination of several prominent people regarded as liberals.

A Disparate Alliance
The conservatives are a disparate alliance, including xenophobic fringe groups, like Pamyat, as well as large numbers of less extreme nationalists who yearn for what they see as the simple values of Old Russia and the Orthodox church.

Conservatives already claim credit for helping defeat certain candidates, most notably Mr. Korotich, editor of the liberal and popular magazine ''Ogonyok,'' and Andrei D. Sakharov, the physicist and Nobel Peace Prize winning dissident.

Nikita F. Zherbin, head of the Leningrad chapter of Pamyat, delighted in the fact that Mr. Korotich had been forced off the ballot in Moscow's Sverdlovsk region, and described this as the first successful step in the conservative campaign to use the elections as a vehicle for its political ideas.

'I Am a Stalinist' ''We brought our case to the people, and the outcome speaks for us,'' said Mr. Zherbin, whose group regards the liberalization of Soviet society as a conspiracy by Jews, Masons and Westernizers.



Soviet Conservatives Try to Turn Back the Clock on Gorbachev's Policies

Russian "conservatives" are supporters of big government and no individual freedom. So they're more analogous to American leftists.

 

[Rinata]

huh... I'm sure you'll agree with this sentiment then.

"In the end, treason is a matter of dates" Clarion "The Count of Monte Christo"

Moral relativist claptrap and failed attempts at equivalency. But your irrelevancy bin is fully, commie.

Let's hear some more of 'as the world turns' in the tiny context of your parochial indoctrination.

You are are so far out of your league son, it is an embarrassment for you... but keep trying pea brain...

In other words, the limp and futile Bfgrn has spoken.

Finding himself to be in sole possession of all truth, he made his pronouncement and that's that.

In his silly little head, he reigns triumphant. He's throwing himself a parade. When Bfgrn and assholes like him unilaterally declare victory, the truth is almost always found elsewhere.

Can't Little Fitz defend himself??? Guess not. And you're the best he could come up with???

 

[Big Fitz]

Let's hear some more of 'as the world turns' in the tiny context of your parochial indoctrination.

You are are so far out of your league son, it is an embarrassment for you... but keep trying pea brain...

In other words, the limp and futile Bfgrn has spoken.

Finding himself to be in sole possession of all truth, he made his pronouncement and that's that.

In his silly little head, he reigns triumphant. He's throwing himself a parade. When Bfgrn and assholes like him unilaterally declare victory, the truth is almost always found elsewhere.

Can't Little Fitz defend himself??? Guess not. And you're the best he could come up with???

I'm sorry, you're wishing to defend the case of tourettes bfgrn calls 'wit and intelligence?

Talk about buying help off the liquidation rack.

 

[Liability]

In other words, the limp and futile Bfgrn has spoken.

Finding himself to be in sole possession of all truth, he made his pronouncement and that's that.

In his silly little head, he reigns triumphant. He's throwing himself a parade. When Bfgrn and assholes like him unilaterally declare victory, the truth is almost always found elsewhere.

Can't Little Fitz defend himself??? Guess not. And you're the best he could come up with???

I'm sorry, you're wishing to defend the case of tourettes bfgrn calls 'wit and intelligence?

Talk about buying help off the liquidation rack.

Let's hear some more of 'as the world turns' in the tiny context of your parochial indoctrination.

You are are so far out of your league son, it is an embarrassment for you... but keep trying pea brain...

In other words, the limp and futile Bfgrn has spoken.

Finding himself to be in sole possession of all truth, he made his pronouncement and that's that.

In his silly little head, he reigns triumphant. He's throwing himself a parade. When Bfgrn and assholes like him unilaterally declare victory, the truth is almost always found elsewhere.

Can't Little Fitz defend himself??? Guess not. And you're the best he could come up with???

I would have responded, Retarda, you nasty scalye diseased stupid twat, but Fitzy just stole your lunch, ate it, threw it up and crammed the puke down your throat.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

BFGRN. You can post your nazi documents all you want but it doesn't change the basic facts, and the facts make your "comeback" fail.

Germany was a Fascist Socialist State
Russia was a communist Socialist State
Progressives want a Democratic Socialist state.

yes they are all different types of socialism but they all share the same governmental structure and ideals, socialism. That is the problem.

Socialism has been shown time and again throughout history to fail.

There was nothing 'socialist' about Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.

Do you even know what socialism IS? It has never really been tried on a large scale in any major country.

What Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union had in common is power in the hands of one, or the few, and a disregard for human beings. THAT is what the right in America has in common with those totalitarian regimes...

Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings.

Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just the Party Secretary) have any say in how the economy works. Republicans are conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just people controlling the Party figurehead) have any say in how the government works. The conservatives in the US are in the same position as the communists in the 30s, and for the same reason: Their revolutions failed spectacularly but they refuse to admit what went wrong.

A common mistake is to confuse Socialism, the economic system, with Communism, the political system. Communists are "socialist" in the same way that Republicans are "compassionate conservatives". That is, they give lip service to ideals they have no intention of practicing.

You're in the running for "Dumbest Fuck at USMB" The competition is FIERCE because so many of your fellow Libs are Dumb Fucks, but this post puts you out in front

 

[Liberty]

holy shit Bfgrn is definately the biggest moron on USMB. conservative means RIGHT of the political spectrum, and the modern liberal is LEFT of th spectrum. classical liberalism is not the same as it is today. Conservative and liberal is based on the alignment of the TOTAL POWER OF GOVERNMENT political spectrum.

the spectrum is:

TOTAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL -----------------------------------------------------NO GOVERNMENT


the USA was foundied at about here ------------------------------------------X----

now we are about here ---------------------------------------X---------------------

Nazi germany: X------------------------------------------------------------

N. Korea: X------------------------------------------------------------

What liberals really want: X-------------------------------------------------------------

More detailed Spectrum: (Totalitarian) (far left)-------(Oligarchy)--------(Democracy)-------(Republic *the USA*)------(Anarachy)(Far Right)

Do the idiots get it now?
Conservative as it comes to economics mean ANYONE CAN SET ANY PRICE ON ANY GOOD OR SERVICE THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE!!!!!
Liberal as it comes to economics mean NO ONE CAN DO SHIT WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT IN THEIR FACE TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO.

I will take the former ANY DAY.

If not, this will explain it better: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE[/ame]

 

[logical4u]

Media Matter is trying to shut down any dissent from the Obama Ministry of Truth by holding, wait for it, Glenn Beck responsible for the actions of an individual who tried to attack the Tides Foundation.

Beck's crime? He did...a story!!! on the Tides Foundation!!! Is that even legal?!

Beck denies being "responsible" for planned massacre at office of group he demonized | Media Matters for America

Then Media Matters sent this out this afternoon:

"Dear Friend,

On Sunday, July 18, unhinged ex-convict Byron Williams loaded his truck with guns and headed up a California highway with the intention of starting a revolution. If he hadn't been stopped by brave officers -- two of whom were wounded in the confrontation -- he could have carried out a plan to kill staff at progressive organizations, including the Tides Foundation.

What is the Tides Foundation? It's the nonprofit that Glenn Beck brags about "turning the light of day" on by constantly attacking it as part of a socialist conspiracy to destroy our government. The Tides Foundation isn't the shadowy political influence of Beck's fantasies -- it's a transparent organization known in the philanthropic community for doing good public service. Make no mistake: Beck's intention was to paint the Tides Foundation as a dangerous, increasingly powerful threat to freedom that must be stopped. And Williams set out to stop them. ..."

What?????????????????????

Were the Beatles responsible for Charles Manson?

Media matters never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

 

[Rinata]

Can't Little Fitz defend himself??? Guess not. And you're the best he could come up with???

I'm sorry, you're wishing to defend the case of tourettes bfgrn calls 'wit and intelligence?

Talk about buying help off the liquidation rack.

In other words, the limp and futile Bfgrn has spoken.

Finding himself to be in sole possession of all truth, he made his pronouncement and that's that.

In his silly little head, he reigns triumphant. He's throwing himself a parade. When Bfgrn and assholes like him unilaterally declare victory, the truth is almost always found elsewhere.

Can't Little Fitz defend himself??? Guess not. And you're the best he could come up with???

I would have responded, Retarda, you nasty scalye diseased stupid twat, but Fitzy just stole your lunch, ate it, threw it up and crammed the puke down your throat.

You have such a way with words. How can anybody take anything you say seriously?? You're just an obnoxious little boy.

 

[Bfgrn]

By Paul Helmke - President, Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence



Ever heard of the Tides Foundation? Like most Americans, I wasn't familiar with it, either. I only recently learned about Tides' history of support for progressive causes, such as environmentalism, human rights, education, and combating the global AIDS crisis.

Sadly, I only got wind of what this foundation does because of what's happened since Fox Network Host Glenn Beck started to dishonestly attack the work of Tides as part of a plan to "seize power and destroy capitalism."

Beck has used his TV show and his celebrity at least 29 times over 18 months to disparage this foundation with inflammatory rhetoric -- rhetoric which recently inspired one of his California viewers to start a "revolution" against Tides' leaders by attempting to kill them.

As a lawyer who has practiced and taught First Amendment law, I appreciate Beck's right to speak his mind on any issue. But as a former First Amendment lawyer and instructor, I also know that with this freedom comes responsibility, and just as important, consequences.

Williams (pictured above) pulled the trigger on those two officers, but Beck's harsh rhetoric against Tides and other leaders of progressive groups, whom he identifies as "enemies," have helped stoke the fires of outrage in a sector of the American public that is armed and eager to do battle with foes that they believe -- or have been led to believe - are in some way destroying our country.

Beck acknowledges that he has viewers who are capable of responding violently to his hyperbolic accusations. He has warned, "it is only a matter of time before an actual crazy person really does something stupid."

But this recognition of the power and consequences of his words has not dampened his enthusiasm for injecting them with violence to hammer home his perspective. According to Dana Milbank of the Washington Post, some of Beck's favorite phrases include:

"The war is just beginning . . ..
Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government . . ..
There is a coup going on . . ..
Grab a torch! . . .
Drive a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers . . ..
They are taking you to a place to be slaughtered . . ..
They are putting a gun to America's head . . .. Hold these people responsible."

Whole article...

But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint.
Edmund Burke

 

[Liberty]

Hello, captain dumbass.

 

[Cal]

Of course you'll never hear Beck take responsibility for his words.. All you'll hear is deny, deny, deny.. Deny that him spewing his hate of any organization that works towards a better world and towards progress, has lead to anyone commiting acts of violence.. Of course this dude compiled all of his information on the tides by himself.. It couldn't have been the fact he was a Beck fan.. and that Beck has been ranting about how the foundation is gonna lead to all these bad things for weeks.
Beck is a very dangerous man.. and has a very dangerous following.

 

[Liberty]

Of course you'll never hear Beck take responsibility for his words.. All you'll hear is deny, deny, deny.. Deny that him spewing his hate of any organization that works towards a better world and towards progress, has lead to anyone commiting acts of violence.. Of course this dude compiled all of his information on the tides by himself.. It couldn't have been the fact he was a Beck fan.. and that Beck has been ranting about how the foundation is gonna lead to all these bad things for weeks.
Beck is a very dangerous man.. and has a very dangerous following.

Yeah, the first amendment is only good if it supports the growth of government power, right?

 

[The Infidel]

There is NO way Glenn can be blamed.

You folks are useful idiots to even try to.



"When bad men combine, The good must associate; Else they will fall, one by one..."

Edmund Burke 1766

 

[Leweman]

Whoa I didnt realize Beck was responsible for this because of what he says. I guess this means Democrats like Keith Olberman are responsible for the shootings that the Conneticut brewery because he continually race baits and people really do think everyone is racist and out to get them. Thanks for enlightening me. Its a great day when individuals don't have to take responsibilities for their actions and instead we can blame others.

 

[The Infidel]

Ha... I was the 1st to thank you Leweman

 

[Cal]

There is NO way Glenn can be blamed.

You folks are useful idiots to even try to.



"When bad men combine, The good must associate; Else they will fall, one by one..."

Edmund Burke 1766

When is it ok to ask Beck to be more careful? When more Police officers lose their lives, like in Pittsburgh?

He gets on his show every night, and convinces his audience that:

Obama is out to:
Kill your Grandparents
Take your guns
Turn America into nazi germany
Get the white people

Progressives are:
A "cancer"
Racist against whites
Baby killers
.. Shit, I'm not even gonna continue.. But you get the point.
With this kind of talk, at some point, he has to take responsibility for what happens.

 

[Liberty]

There is NO way Glenn can be blamed.

You folks are useful idiots to even try to.



"When bad men combine, The good must associate; Else they will fall, one by one..."

Edmund Burke 1766

When is it ok to ask Beck to be more careful? When more Police officers lose their lives, like in Pittsburgh?

He gets on his show every night, and convinces his audience that:

Obama is out to:
Kill your Grandparents
Take your guns
Turn America into nazi germany
Get the white people

Progressives are:
A "cancer"
Racist against whites
Baby killers
.. Shit, I'm not even gonna continue.. But you get the point.
With this kind of talk, at some point, he has to take responsibility for what happens.

pretty sure people like you are the ones damaging america. I bet you think guns kill people too?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wow. This is new! I never heard of this before! Wowzers Blaming Glenn Beck!

Bfgrn on the cutting edge of re-re-re-re-re-retreading.

Wow.

Blame Glenn Beck.