Men in women's bathrooms

[Conservative65]

A penis or a vagina in the stall next to me? Why would it matter, why would I care?

Perhaps you have no sense of decency, modesty, or virtue; and no one can force you to be otherwise. That is your own choice, and not one that you have any right to force on others. The overwhelming vast majority if women are not, and never will be, OK with men being present in their restrooms, dressing rooms, locker rooms, and similar facilities, and to compel them to endure that without their consent constitutes a form of sexual abuse against them.

Seems you think naked men will just be standing around watching women and girls undress?

That is a lie.

Man caught watching 10-year-old girl in bathroom charged with child porn

Man in Women's Locker Room: 'I Have a Right to Be Here'

Seems you haven't been paying attention.

 

[Jack4jill]

That depends upon the demand? If the demand is to be equal to the majority, they are correct.

That's how we got gay marriage. It's equality, and the majority was opposed for a very long time.

The overwhelming majority of people go to the restroom based on their biological plumbing. Expecting freaks that feel like a different gender to do the same based on their biology, they are being treated equally.

You got gay marriage because 5 people misinterpreted the Constitution.

I see, so gays are unequal then, undeserving of the same rights you have to marry another person.

And if the plumbing looks right, which we can easily fix, what's your beef?

This is why I would fix transgender kids as early as possible. Not for their benefit, but for yours.

Since I don't think marriage is a right, thinking that homos shouldn't marry isn't denying them of a right.

Until you can change the DNA, changing how it looks doesn't change biology.

I can take some chicken shit, put some spices, etc. on it making it look like and smell like chicken salad. Would you eat it?

DNA won't help you. We have XX males and XY females.

All you have to go on are looks, and we have the tools for that.

Again, you unsuccessfully try to use the .00001% minority. You fail freak.

So, you want to assign bathrooms based on XX or XY?

That will get very, very interesting. And, what bathrooms do XXY, XYY, XXXY, and X0 (just one X) use?

Check out picture number 2. Warning, graphic: xx male - Google Search

Still want to go with DNA? He'd be using the ladies room.

 

[Conservative65]

You don't see. Try reading what I said again, you failed miserably the first time

You said, only the majority has rights.

You might not think that you did, but you did.

I said the majority has the right to not be oppressed by the minority and VICE VERSA. You haven't Googled "vice versa" to learn what it means yet, have you?

Do gays getting married "oppress" you?

You are at the urinal and transgender male, who looks male, heads to a stall. How are you being oppressed?

Not that tired argument, again.

Do gays getting married "oppress" you?

You are at the urinal and transgender male, who looks male, heads to a stall. How are you being oppressed?

Not that tired argument, still again.

It's not a matter of what they look like, it'a a matter of what biology says they are.

Since you want to focus on the looks as being the important thing, interested in the chicken shit, I mean chicken salad? It LOOKS like chicken salad.

 

[Conservative65]

The overwhelming majority of people go to the restroom based on their biological plumbing. Expecting freaks that feel like a different gender to do the same based on their biology, they are being treated equally.

You got gay marriage because 5 people misinterpreted the Constitution.

I see, so gays are unequal then, undeserving of the same rights you have to marry another person.

And if the plumbing looks right, which we can easily fix, what's your beef?

This is why I would fix transgender kids as early as possible. Not for their benefit, but for yours.

Since I don't think marriage is a right, thinking that homos shouldn't marry isn't denying them of a right.

Until you can change the DNA, changing how it looks doesn't change biology.

I can take some chicken shit, put some spices, etc. on it making it look like and smell like chicken salad. Would you eat it?

DNA won't help you. We have XX males and XY females.

All you have to go on are looks, and we have the tools for that.

Again, you unsuccessfully try to use the .00001% minority. You fail freak.

So, you want to assign bathrooms based on XX or XY?

That will get very, very interesting. And, what bathrooms do XXY, XYY, XXXY, and X0 (just one X) use?

Check out picture number 2. Warning, graphic: xx male - Google Search

Still want to go with DNA? He'd be using the ladies room.

Still want to use that .0001% argument? You lose freak.

 

[Jack4jill]

A penis or a vagina in the stall next to me? Why would it matter, why would I care?

Perhaps you have no sense of decency, modesty, or virtue; and no one can force you to be otherwise. That is your own choice, and not one that you have any right to force on others. The overwhelming vast majority if women are not, and never will be, OK with men being present in their restrooms, dressing rooms, locker rooms, and similar facilities, and to compel them to endure that without their consent constitutes a form of sexual abuse against them.

Seems you think naked men will just be standing around watching women and girls undress?

That is a lie.

Man caught watching 10-year-old girl in bathroom charged with child porn

Man in Women's Locker Room: 'I Have a Right to Be Here'

Seems you haven't been paying attention.

It's BS, and you know it. We already have laws against such things, which is why it's news of a crime.

 

[kaz]

The rights of the few don't include trampling on the rights of the majority, or vice versa ...

I see. Mob rule.

As expected.

You don't see. Try reading what I said again, you failed miserably the first time

You said, only the majority has rights.

You might not think that you did, but you did.

I said the majority has the right to not be oppressed by the minority and VICE VERSA. You haven't Googled "vice versa" to learn what it means yet, have you?

Do gays getting married "oppress" you?

I oppose all government marriage. You did also again demonstrate you don't know the difference between positive and negative rights

You are at the urinal and transgender male, who looks male, heads to a stall. How are you being oppressed?

Um ... you really can't read the English language, can you? If the owner of the bathroom doesn't want transgenders using their identity sex and government forces them to, then it oppresses the owner of the restroom, not me.

And BTW, since you're apparently a chick in a guys body, the last thing guys do at stalls is look at each other. First we don't want to and second it would totally creep the other guy out

 

[skye]

Men should go to men's bathrooms

Women to women's.

Deal with it.

 

[Conservative65]

You said, only the majority has rights.

You might not think that you did, but you did.

Wow, you read a one sentence post twice now and couldn't understand it. Both times what you said is contradictory to what I said much less being what I said. Here's a term for you to google so you know what it means, "vice versa."

And here's another one, "individual."

And finally, you should google "positive and negative rights."

Rights are held by individuals. What I said was that individuals whether they are in the majority or minority do not have the right to trample on the rights of others whether they are in the majority or minority. Your saying I'm supporting the right of the majority is just wrong, I'm not. I'm supporting the right of individuals.

You still don't understand, do you? Be honest

What's wrong with said individual picking a bathroom then, if that causes no issue?

A penis or a vagina in the stall next to me? Why would it matter, why would I care?

I don't give a shit where they shit in someone else's bathroom. It's up to the owner

So, Target, no problems. And Public schools, no problems, but not at your male only bathroom?

Fine.

As long as Target decided that itself.

Public schools are up to the State since the owner of the bathroom is the government

My bathroom? In my business, we have four bathrooms. They are all single use, so we don't have male or female bathrooms. You just pick an open one

Taxpayers own the public schools since we pay the taxes that fund them.

 

[Jack4jill]

You said, only the majority has rights.

You might not think that you did, but you did.

I said the majority has the right to not be oppressed by the minority and VICE VERSA. You haven't Googled "vice versa" to learn what it means yet, have you?

Do gays getting married "oppress" you?

You are at the urinal and transgender male, who looks male, heads to a stall. How are you being oppressed?

Not that tired argument, again.

Do gays getting married "oppress" you?

You are at the urinal and transgender male, who looks male, heads to a stall. How are you being oppressed?

Not that tired argument, still again.

It's not a matter of what they look like, it'a a matter of what biology says they are.

Since you want to focus on the looks as being the important thing, interested in the chicken shit, I mean chicken salad? It LOOKS like chicken salad.

Biology doesn't say what they are, not the way you think it does. XX is not always female, nor XY always male.

 

[Slade3200]

I just think all you deniers are dead wrong thinking this whole thing is going to be dismissed because it's a mental issue. You have no understanding of what your oppositions cause and goals are and you sound ignorant in your arguments.

Yes, protecting 17 million actual women rape survivors from extreme psychological trauma in showers behind doors marked "women" is an "ignorant" argument. We'll let Justice Ginsburg decide if it is or not, OK?

Begin grieving. You lost.

17million myth
Sexual Abuse Survivors Want Conservative Politicians To Knock It Off With 'Bathroom Predator' Myth

Myth $1 - Someone born with male "plumbing" isn't a female because HE feels like it. After that, nothing else really matter as long as HE goes where HE belongs.

Very good! You understand what the discussion is about... Where do they belong... That's the question in debate

 

[Jack4jill]

I see, so gays are unequal then, undeserving of the same rights you have to marry another person.

And if the plumbing looks right, which we can easily fix, what's your beef?

This is why I would fix transgender kids as early as possible. Not for their benefit, but for yours.

Since I don't think marriage is a right, thinking that homos shouldn't marry isn't denying them of a right.

Until you can change the DNA, changing how it looks doesn't change biology.

I can take some chicken shit, put some spices, etc. on it making it look like and smell like chicken salad. Would you eat it?

DNA won't help you. We have XX males and XY females.

All you have to go on are looks, and we have the tools for that.

Again, you unsuccessfully try to use the .00001% minority. You fail freak.

So, you want to assign bathrooms based on XX or XY?

That will get very, very interesting. And, what bathrooms do XXY, XYY, XXXY, and X0 (just one X) use?

Check out picture number 2. Warning, graphic: xx male - Google Search

Still want to go with DNA? He'd be using the ladies room.

Still want to use that .0001% argument? You lose freak.

I lose? You just put a hairy man with a normal penis, in the girls' room.

 

[kaz]

Wow, you read a one sentence post twice now and couldn't understand it. Both times what you said is contradictory to what I said much less being what I said. Here's a term for you to google so you know what it means, "vice versa."

And here's another one, "individual."

And finally, you should google "positive and negative rights."

Rights are held by individuals. What I said was that individuals whether they are in the majority or minority do not have the right to trample on the rights of others whether they are in the majority or minority. Your saying I'm supporting the right of the majority is just wrong, I'm not. I'm supporting the right of individuals.

You still don't understand, do you? Be honest

What's wrong with said individual picking a bathroom then, if that causes no issue?

A penis or a vagina in the stall next to me? Why would it matter, why would I care?

I don't give a shit where they shit in someone else's bathroom. It's up to the owner

So, Target, no problems. And Public schools, no problems, but not at your male only bathroom?

Fine.

As long as Target decided that itself.

Public schools are up to the State since the owner of the bathroom is the government

My bathroom? In my business, we have four bathrooms. They are all single use, so we don't have male or female bathrooms. You just pick an open one

Taxpayers own the public schools since we pay the taxes that fund them.

How is that different than what I said?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Seems you think naked men will just be standing around watching women and girls undress?

That is a lie.

The lie is when you pro-pervert scumbags try to confine the debate to restrooms, where you can argue that individuals stalls still protect some semblance of privacy.

You know very well that any precedent you set will apply equally to all sex-segregated facilities, which will necessarily include such facilities as communal locker/shower rooms, where no such privacy is afforded. Your position puts creepy male perverts in women's locker/shower rooms, where these men will be free to expose themselves to women and to observe women undressing and showering, with no protection for the women against this sexual abuse.

 

[Conservative65]

A penis or a vagina in the stall next to me? Why would it matter, why would I care?

Perhaps you have no sense of decency, modesty, or virtue; and no one can force you to be otherwise. That is your own choice, and not one that you have any right to force on others. The overwhelming vast majority if women are not, and never will be, OK with men being present in their restrooms, dressing rooms, locker rooms, and similar facilities, and to compel them to endure that without their consent constitutes a form of sexual abuse against them.

Seems you think naked men will just be standing around watching women and girls undress?

That is a lie.

Man caught watching 10-year-old girl in bathroom charged with child porn

Man in Women's Locker Room: 'I Have a Right to Be Here'

Seems you haven't been paying attention.

It's BS, and you know it. We already have laws against such things, which is why it's news of a crime.

Your argument is BS. You said that men will be watching women and girls undress was a lie. In less than 30 seconds, I found an example of where a male doing just that said the law had changed and he could be there.

 

[Jack4jill]

I see. Mob rule.

As expected.

You don't see. Try reading what I said again, you failed miserably the first time

You said, only the majority has rights.

You might not think that you did, but you did.

I said the majority has the right to not be oppressed by the minority and VICE VERSA. You haven't Googled "vice versa" to learn what it means yet, have you?

Do gays getting married "oppress" you?

I oppose all government marriage. You did also again demonstrate you don't know the difference between positive and negative rights

You are at the urinal and transgender male, who looks male, heads to a stall. How are you being oppressed?

Um ... you really can't read the English language, can you? If the owner of the bathroom doesn't want transgenders using their identity sex and government forces them to, then it oppresses the owner of the restroom, not me.

And BTW, since you're apparently a chick in a guys body, the last thing guys do at stalls is look at each other. First we don't want to and second it would totally creep the other guy out

So, a transgender male in your bathroom causes you no issues at all. TY.

 

[Conservative65]

What's wrong with said individual picking a bathroom then, if that causes no issue?

A penis or a vagina in the stall next to me? Why would it matter, why would I care?

I don't give a shit where they shit in someone else's bathroom. It's up to the owner

So, Target, no problems. And Public schools, no problems, but not at your male only bathroom?

Fine.

As long as Target decided that itself.

Public schools are up to the State since the owner of the bathroom is the government

My bathroom? In my business, we have four bathrooms. They are all single use, so we don't have male or female bathrooms. You just pick an open one

Taxpayers own the public schools since we pay the taxes that fund them.

How is that different than what I said?

The government doesn't own the schools. I agree with you, for the most part, on what you've said.

 

[Conservative65]

You don't see. Try reading what I said again, you failed miserably the first time

You said, only the majority has rights.

You might not think that you did, but you did.

I said the majority has the right to not be oppressed by the minority and VICE VERSA. You haven't Googled "vice versa" to learn what it means yet, have you?

Do gays getting married "oppress" you?

I oppose all government marriage. You did also again demonstrate you don't know the difference between positive and negative rights

You are at the urinal and transgender male, who looks male, heads to a stall. How are you being oppressed?

Um ... you really can't read the English language, can you? If the owner of the bathroom doesn't want transgenders using their identity sex and government forces them to, then it oppresses the owner of the restroom, not me.

And BTW, since you're apparently a chick in a guys body, the last thing guys do at stalls is look at each other. First we don't want to and second it would totally creep the other guy out

So, a transgender male in your bathroom causes you no issues at all. TY.

It applies the same for women that FEEL like they are male.

 

[Jack4jill]

A penis or a vagina in the stall next to me? Why would it matter, why would I care?

Perhaps you have no sense of decency, modesty, or virtue; and no one can force you to be otherwise. That is your own choice, and not one that you have any right to force on others. The overwhelming vast majority if women are not, and never will be, OK with men being present in their restrooms, dressing rooms, locker rooms, and similar facilities, and to compel them to endure that without their consent constitutes a form of sexual abuse against them.

Seems you think naked men will just be standing around watching women and girls undress?

That is a lie.

Man caught watching 10-year-old girl in bathroom charged with child porn

Man in Women's Locker Room: 'I Have a Right to Be Here'

Seems you haven't been paying attention.

It's BS, and you know it. We already have laws against such things, which is why it's news of a crime.

Your argument is BS. You said that men will be watching women and girls undress was a lie. In less than 30 seconds, I found an example of where a male doing just that said the law had changed and he could be there.

And he made the news because, he broke the law attempting to be cute.

 

[Conservative65]

Perhaps you have no sense of decency, modesty, or virtue; and no one can force you to be otherwise. That is your own choice, and not one that you have any right to force on others. The overwhelming vast majority if women are not, and never will be, OK with men being present in their restrooms, dressing rooms, locker rooms, and similar facilities, and to compel them to endure that without their consent constitutes a form of sexual abuse against them.

Seems you think naked men will just be standing around watching women and girls undress?

That is a lie.

Man caught watching 10-year-old girl in bathroom charged with child porn

Man in Women's Locker Room: 'I Have a Right to Be Here'

Seems you haven't been paying attention.

It's BS, and you know it. We already have laws against such things, which is why it's news of a crime.

Your argument is BS. You said that men will be watching women and girls undress was a lie. In less than 30 seconds, I found an example of where a male doing just that said the law had changed and he could be there.

And he made the news because, he broke the law attempting to be cute.

End result is he was THERE doing what you said was a lie.

 

[skye]

There are to many perverts to have men in women's bathrooms.......a total bacchanalia!

Hope when Trump becomes President stops this madness.