Mexican is a nationality, not a race.

[Uncensored2008]

And that is why Trump's claim that Curiel is biased is absolute bullshit. Curiel is an American. He was born in Indiana. He's lived in this country his entire life. He's American. He's not Mexican. Therefore, it is impossible for him to be biased by Trump's wall building rhetoric.

Thank you drumpfodder for clearing this up.

Curiel makes his Mexican heritage a MAJOR part of who he is.

Trump is right, Curiel is loyal to Mexico and belongs to groups involved in boycotts of Trump businesses. He is personally and financially affected by the results of the case.

 

[Correll]

And that is why Trump's claim that Curiel is biased is absolute bullshit. Curiel is an American. He was born in Indiana. He's lived in this country his entire life. He's American. He's not Mexican. Therefore, it is impossible for him to be biased by Trump's wall building rhetoric.

Thank you drumpfodder for clearing this up.

There is no reason that a "Mexican" or Mexican-American, or a Hispanic Judge could NOT be biased against a man who the Hard Left has been claiming for months is hated by Hispanics.

Semantic games do not change reality, not matter how hard people try to make it do so.

Trump's entire argument is a semantics game. The man is an American. Period. He comes from Indiana.

No, Trump's argument is that the Judge, because of his Mexican heritage, is biased against him.

Considering the man's membership in an organization that is strongly opposed to Trump, and attacks him in some of the harshest language, this concern is quite credible.


Your argument is the one that is based on semantics.

 

[Redfish]

And that is why Trump's claim that Curiel is biased is absolute bullshit. Curiel is an American. He was born in Indiana. He's lived in this country his entire life. He's American. He's not Mexican. Therefore, it is impossible for him to be biased by Trump's wall building rhetoric.

Thank you drumpfodder for clearing this up.

There is no reason that a "Mexican" or Mexican-American, or a Hispanic Judge could NOT be biased against a man who the Hard Left has been claiming for months is hated by Hispanics.

Semantic games do not change reality, not matter how hard people try to make it do so.

Trump's entire argument is a semantics game. The man is an American. Period. He comes from Indiana.

No, Trump's argument is that the Judge, because of his Mexican heritage, is biased against him.

Considering the man's membership in an organization that is strongly opposed to Trump, and attacks him in some of the harshest language, this concern is quite credible.


Your argument is the one that is based on semantics.

His group also makes big contributions to Hillary and the DNC.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Curiel made his bed... let his rotten, Mexican loving ass rot in it.

 

[SwimExpert]

Lets see now, if both of your parents were Irish would you be of Irish origin or Irish heritage?

If I were born in the US, I would be of US origin.

The judge is the son of Mexican parents (possibly in this country illegally).

They were naturalized citizens.

He has done well for himself in the USA and can be proud of that, but that does not excuse making rulings from the bench that are biased (or could be seen as biased). He is a member of a Hispanic legal organization. Do you think for a minute that that organization is not pro-Mexican? Please think before answering.

Hispanic is a pan ethnicity. I am Hispanic. My father was born in Puerto Rico. There are many Hispanics in the United States whose ancestries trace through many different countries before ultimately reaching Spain. Big fucking deal. If you think that being part of a Hispanic lawyer's association makes someone have any love for Mexico, then you're a fucking idiot. Well, you are a fucking idiot.

 

[Correll]

And that is why Trump's claim that Curiel is biased is absolute bullshit. Curiel is an American. He was born in Indiana. He's lived in this country his entire life. He's American. He's not Mexican. Therefore, it is impossible for him to be biased by Trump's wall building rhetoric.

Thank you drumpfodder for clearing this up.

Impossible to be biased if you were born in the USA? is that what you are claiming? How about Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, and Whoopi? Are they not biased?

BTW, Mexican is not a race, neither is muslim, or African, or Irish, or arab.

I'm saying that being Mexican is not a race, so Trump is not being racist when he wants to build a wall. Since Mexican is a nationality, nothing about Curiel can be Mexican. He is an American citizen, born in the United States to American citizens. If we reject any connection between anti-Mexican rhetoric and racism, we must also reject any connection between Curiel's ancestry and an imagined expectation that he will be biased against Trump because of that same rhetoric.

Then let us correct the language immediately! Trump is not a racist in this context. He is Anti-Latino.

For the record, he is also anti-POW, anti-Chinese, anti-Woman, anti-Black and anti-Intellectual.

Now, piling up all those things Trump is 'anti', can we imagine he is trying to use his big mouth to sway justice in his favor and failing spectacularly?

Rapists, murderers, drug dealers. Some of them, I assume, are good people.



Do you believe that Hispanics hate Trump?

"Rapists, murderers, drug dealers. I assume some of them are good people". What's not to like about Trump after he says something like that?

So, that is a yes.

SO, now what do you believe about Trump's right to get a Fair and Impartial Trial?

Is it less or more important then the Right of the Hard Left to go on a fishing expedition to get more information to smear Trump with?

 

[SwimExpert]

No, Trump's argument is that the Judge, because of his Mexican heritage, is biased against him.

Mexican heritage? What Mexican heritage? Heritage is a cultural phenomenon. My father was born in PR. I have no Puerto Rican heritage. Zero. I'm American. Period. My mother's water broke while she was standing 100 feet from the liberty bell for crying out loud. The fact that some of my ancestors lived in Puerto Rico does not create heritage. Hell, if you go back far enough every single one of us has ancestors who lived in Africa. Should we talk about your African heritage?

 

[Rocko]

There is no reason that a "Mexican" or Mexican-American, or a Hispanic Judge could NOT be biased against a man who the Hard Left has been claiming for months is hated by Hispanics.

Semantic games do not change reality, not matter how hard people try to make it do so.

Trump's entire argument is a semantics game. The man is an American. Period. He comes from Indiana.

Its irellevant where he's from if being from Mexican is central to his identy like many people of mexican origin. The ironic thing is you are playing a game of you'semantics.

He's not "of Mexican origin." He's from Indiana.

Heritage, you are playing semantics.

You're passing off 20 different words in an attempt to repackage the same faulty premise, and somehow I'm the one who is playing semantics games? The man is from Indiana. There is no semantics game in that statement. He is from Indiana. He's not Mexican. He's American.

I look forward to you attempting once again to repeat the same premise with different words while accusing me of playing semantics games.

Youre the one who's trying to pass off the faulty premise that the guy can't have any biases in favor of mexican illegal alliens because hes from america. No one is that stupid to believe that. The fact is his herritage is mexican and he most certainly could have a bias in favor of mexican illegal alliens. Having said that just because hes has mexican roots doesnt mean he is biased, and i do believe what trump said is bigoted.

 

[whitehall]

If any judge had a display of the Ten Commandments in his court the left would cry bias in a heartbeat. It doesn't matter what judge Curiel's DNA indicates, the fact of the matter is that he belongs to a race based organization that supports illegal aliens and advocates open borders. What kind of decision could he make regarding a high profile defendant who advocates building a wall?

 

[daws101]

And that is why Trump's claim that Curiel is biased is absolute bullshit. Curiel is an American. He was born in Indiana. He's lived in this country his entire life. He's American. He's not Mexican. Therefore, it is impossible for him to be biased by Trump's wall building rhetoric.

Thank you drumpfodder for clearing this up.

Impossible to be biased if you were born in the USA? is that what you are claiming? How about Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, and Whoopi? Are they not biased?

BTW, Mexican is not a race, neither is muslim, or African, or Irish, or arab.

Massive false comparison.
Since when did race become irrelevant to obvious racists like yourself.
This whole sham whites are victims ploy the right is trying to sell is rock solid proof of that bias.

How is race relevant to the trump case?

It wasn't till your boy dump made it so.
You want fires with that?

 

[Meathead]

And that is why Trump's claim that Curiel is biased is absolute bullshit. Curiel is an American. He was born in Indiana. He's lived in this country his entire life. He's American. He's not Mexican. Therefore, it is impossible for him to be biased by Trump's wall building rhetoric.

Thank you drumpfodder for clearing this up.

So obviously Trump cannot be a racist, You can quit whining about that now.

Thank you

 

[Correll]

And that is why Trump's claim that Curiel is biased is absolute bullshit. Curiel is an American. He was born in Indiana. He's lived in this country his entire life. He's American. He's not Mexican. Therefore, it is impossible for him to be biased by Trump's wall building rhetoric.

Thank you drumpfodder for clearing this up.

There is no reason that a "Mexican" or Mexican-American, or a Hispanic Judge could NOT be biased against a man who the Hard Left has been claiming for months is hated by Hispanics.

Semantic games do not change reality, not matter how hard people try to make it do so.

Trump's entire argument is a semantics game. The man is an American. Period. He comes from Indiana.

Its irellevant where he's from if being from Mexican is central to his identy like many people of mexican origin. The ironic thing is you are playing a game of semantics.

He's not "of Mexican origin." He's from Indiana.

Lets see now, if both of your parents were Irish would you be of Irish origin or Irish heritage?

The judge is the son of Mexican parents (possibly in this country illegally). He has done well for himself in the USA and can be proud of that, but that does not excuse making rulings from the bench that are biased (or could be seen as biased). He is a member of a Hispanic legal organization. Do you think for a minute that that organization is not pro-Mexican? Please think before answering.

None of that matters.

What matters is that Trump CANNOT be allowed to put forth the idea that a minority can be biased against a White person.

What matters is that the Left wants to pretend that it is racist of Trump to even say that, despite the fact that it is what they have been screaming for months.


What matters is that Trump is marginalized for daring to challenge Political Correctness.

Thus, leftist partisan hacks will say ANYTHING no matter how utterly ridiculous they are, in order to Stone Wall the Truth.

 

[Correll]

There is no reason that a "Mexican" or Mexican-American, or a Hispanic Judge could NOT be biased against a man who the Hard Left has been claiming for months is hated by Hispanics.

Semantic games do not change reality, not matter how hard people try to make it do so.

Trump's entire argument is a semantics game. The man is an American. Period. He comes from Indiana.

Its irellevant where he's from if being from Mexican is central to his identy like many people of mexican origin. The ironic thing is you are playing a game of you'semantics.

He's not "of Mexican origin." He's from Indiana.

Heritage, you are playing semantics.

You're passing off 20 different words in an attempt to repackage the same faulty premise, and somehow I'm the one who is playing semantics games? The man is from Indiana. There is no semantics game in that statement. He is from Indiana. He's not Mexican. He's American.

I look forward to you attempting once again to repeat the same premise with different words while accusing me of playing semantics games.

Yes, you are the one playing semantic games.

You are not fooling anyone.

 

[daws101]

And that is why Trump's claim that Curiel is biased is absolute bullshit. Curiel is an American. He was born in Indiana. He's lived in this country his entire life. He's American. He's not Mexican. Therefore, it is impossible for him to be biased by Trump's wall building rhetoric.

Thank you drumpfodder for clearing this up.

Impossible to be biased if you were born in the USA? is that what you are claiming? How about Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, and Whoopi? Are they not biased?

BTW, Mexican is not a race, neither is muslim, or African, or Irish, or arab.

We are all biased, we just don't admit, which is your problem. You let your distaste for others' nationality or race or religion or ethnicity or whatever rule your common sense. You are right there with S. J. and Lonestar_Logic and others.

You don't know shit about me or how I treat other races, religions etc. For the record I have black friends, jewish friends, gay friends, and Yes, muslim friends. I treat them all with respect and have no biases. I judge people by their actions and words, that's why I consider you a fraud and a liar.

Classic bullshit rationalizing.
My guess is maybe you might have met some of those "races" you listed and are cordial but actual friends, I doubt it.

 

[daws101]

And that is why Trump's claim that Curiel is biased is absolute bullshit. Curiel is an American. He was born in Indiana. He's lived in this country his entire life. He's American. He's not Mexican. Therefore, it is impossible for him to be biased by Trump's wall building rhetoric.

Thank you drumpfodder for clearing this up.

There is no reason that a "Mexican" or Mexican-American, or a Hispanic Judge could NOT be biased against a man who the Hard Left has been claiming for months is hated by Hispanics.

Semantic games do not change reality, not matter how hard people try to make it do so.

Trump's entire argument is a semantics game. The man is an American. Period. He comes from Indiana.

Its irellevant where he's from if being from Mexican is central to his identy like many people of mexican origin. The ironic thing is you are playing a game of semantics.

He's not "of Mexican origin." He's from Indiana.

Lets see now, if both of your parents were Irish would you be of Irish origin or Irish heritage?

The judge is the son of Mexican parents (possibly in this country illegally). He has done well for himself in the USA and can be proud of that, but that does not excuse making rulings from the bench that are biased (or could be seen as biased). He is a member of a Hispanic legal organization. Do you think for a minute that that organization is not pro-Mexican? Please think before answering.

No bias there ,nope, no sir, none.

 

[Nosmo King]

Impossible to be biased if you were born in the USA? is that what you are claiming? How about Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, and Whoopi? Are they not biased?

BTW, Mexican is not a race, neither is muslim, or African, or Irish, or arab.

I'm saying that being Mexican is not a race, so Trump is not being racist when he wants to build a wall. Since Mexican is a nationality, nothing about Curiel can be Mexican. He is an American citizen, born in the United States to American citizens. If we reject any connection between anti-Mexican rhetoric and racism, we must also reject any connection between Curiel's ancestry and an imagined expectation that he will be biased against Trump because of that same rhetoric.

Then let us correct the language immediately! Trump is not a racist in this context. He is Anti-Latino.

For the record, he is also anti-POW, anti-Chinese, anti-Woman, anti-Black and anti-Intellectual.

Now, piling up all those things Trump is 'anti', can we imagine he is trying to use his big mouth to sway justice in his favor and failing spectacularly?

Rapists, murderers, drug dealers. Some of them, I assume, are good people.



Do you believe that Hispanics hate Trump?

"Rapists, murderers, drug dealers. I assume some of them are good people". What's not to like about Trump after he says something like that?

So, that is a yes.

SO, now what do you believe about Trump's right to get a Fair and Impartial Trial?

Is it less or more important then the Right of the Hard Left to go on a fishing expedition to get more information to smear Trump with?

Trump shot himself in the foot so far as a fair trial goes. Calling out the judge can be seen as contempt.

And if Trump's "university" had not bilked so many people out of so much money, there would be no need for a trial. "Fishing expedition"? Let's call an indictment an indictment.

 

[SwimExpert]

Then I assume you don't believe that there is any such thing as an African American if the black person was born in the USA, right?

Yes, 100%. The "African American" label drives me up a fucking wall. Several years ago my workplace was taking nominations for most distinguished American American employee. I got pulled down into HR when I pointed out that the only person qualified for the award was a middle aged woman who actually was born in Africa and lived there until her early 20s. Oh, and she happened to be white. I told them flat out that if they wanted to discipline me then I would report the matter to corporate as retaliation for my complaining about racial discrimination. The contest was subsequently cancelled.

 

[Correll]

No, Trump's argument is that the Judge, because of his Mexican heritage, is biased against him.

Mexican heritage? What Mexican heritage? Heritage is a cultural phenomenon. My father was born in PR. I have no Puerto Rican heritage. Zero. I'm American. Period. My mother's water broke while she was standing 100 feet from the liberty bell for crying out loud. The fact that some of my ancestors lived in Puerto Rico does not create heritage. Hell, if you go back far enough every single one of us has ancestors who lived in Africa. Should we talk about your African heritage?

As you say, heritage is a cultural phenomenon.

YOur father did not leave his culture, his beliefs, his faith, his views of right and wrong, that he acquired from his familiy and community when he moved from there.

He brought them with him and passed them on to you.

You may have rejected them. Perhaps you have rebelled.

They are still a part of you.

Your pretense that this is not true is nonsense.

 

[SwimExpert]

Considering the man's membership in an organization that is strongly opposed to Trump, and attacks him in some of the harshest language, this concern is quite credible.

So that's why Curiel granted Trump's request to postpone the trial until after the election?

 

[Meathead]

And if Trump's "university" had not bilked so many people out of so much money, there would be no need for a trial. "Fishing expedition"? Let's call an indictment an indictment.

Another child left behind. "Idictment", sheesh.