More Christians are conservative meanwhile Christ was liberal...

[PK1]

Most, if not all, of the greatest intellects the world has ever seen were ppl of faith.

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Name two.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Until you can prove otherwise, Jesus of Nazareth is DEAD; he supposedly died on the cross 2,000 years ago.

Regardless, I am a libertarian and serve no one beyond my family.

IF he indeed ever existed.

So much Roman documentation on Paul - but not a single word about Jesus - it's all a bit odd.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It's a choice. You choose to believe he doesn't exist. You ppl think that it's not a choice if there are negative consequences for your willful stupidity. Tell me...why would god surround himself with people who hated and doubted him? Only an idiot would do that. You have the choice, there's a door to go through. You exclude yourselves and choose the fire, instead of opening the door. Good luck with that.

I don't chose to believe he doesn't exist - I simply go by the evidence. The god of the bible is less likely to be real than Superman.

 

[PostmodernProph]

It's a false choice. And not really a choice at all. You follow or you burn. Thinking that that's a choice is completely absurd. And any "god" who threatens me like that isn't worthy of my respect.

so 1) no one in their right mind would choose to burn.......2) you have chosen to burn.......3) you are not in your right mind?......comment:

 

[PostmodernProph]

????.....we all know nobody pushed you to reject God........if anything it amazes us that you used your free will to choose jumping off the cliff when all you had to do was acknowledge his existence and accept his gift.......but no, you had to choose jumping........

No, what I said was: if I don't accept your god, HE pushes me off a cliff. That's not a choice I have, that's a threat your god is aiming at me.

I know that's what you said.......however it isn't true and we have shown you that every time you repeat it.......if you repeat it again we can show you that you are wrong again.......how many times do you want to do that?........you say its not a choice because the consequences are bad......yet, you chose the bad consequences freely, proving it can be done......

Saying follow me or I'll shoot you is a threat,not a choice. Now you know.

so you responded to the threat by following Jesus.....oh, wait.....but.....????.....

Is there a point you're trying to make? Or was that a surrender?

you came, you chose, you lost......

 

[PostmodernProph]

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No, that's not what my God says. You should read up.

In all fairness, the Christian religion DOES say "accept Christ or burn in hell for all eternity."

in ALL fairness it says John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

When you read that out loud, does it sound dumb and make no sense to you as well?

your argument?......yes, it makes no sense to me......

 

[PostmodernProph]

I choose not to follow

surrender at last......

 

[hadit]

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Until you can prove otherwise, Jesus of Nazareth is DEAD; he supposedly died on the cross 2,000 years ago.

Regardless, I am a libertarian and serve no one beyond my family.

IF he indeed ever existed.

So much Roman documentation on Paul - but not a single word about Jesus - it's all a bit odd.

Paul appealed his case to Ceasar, Jesus did not. Paul traveled to Rome and preached there, Jesus did not. Naturally, Romans would have more documentation on him.

 

[PostmodernProph]

I have chosen in accordance to my nature. If your god were real - which he is not - but if he were, then it would be he who gave me a brain and the capacity to reason.

/shrugs.....he gave you a brain and the capacity to reason.....but he didn't guarantee you wouldn't fuck it up.......

 

[Uncensored2008]

/shrugs.....he gave you a brain and the capacity to reason.....but he didn't guarantee you wouldn't fuck it up.......

So we are devolving to ad hom?

A sure sign you have nothing of value to offer.

 

[PostmodernProph]

/shrugs.....he gave you a brain and the capacity to reason.....but he didn't guarantee you wouldn't fuck it up.......

So we are devolving to ad hom?

A sure sign you have nothing of value to offer.

lol.....that is not ad hom.....it is logical debate......the fact you have a brain and the capacity to reason does not automatically translate into being correct......and if you think your faith choices are somehow logical conclusions you are by definition illogical.......

 

[PK1]

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Until you can prove otherwise, Jesus of Nazareth is DEAD; he supposedly died on the cross 2,000 years ago.

Regardless, I am a libertarian and serve no one beyond my family.

IF he indeed ever existed.

So much Roman documentation on Paul - but not a single word about Jesus - it's all a bit odd.

Paul appealed his case to Ceasar, Jesus did not. Paul traveled to Rome and preached there, Jesus did not. Naturally, Romans would have more documentation on him.

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Paul did not know Jesus and never met him in reality. His initial reaction to the newly formed Christian movement was to zealously persecute its early followers and to violently attempt to destroy the movement.

And them he got the idea to create a Jesus myth to sell his "authority" and convert suckers, pretending he was a convert himself after "seeing" a resurrected Jesus.
His con game was effective, and he proceeded to write much of the NT crap or his name was used in the holy book publications by other con men.

And now you know the rest of the amazing story!

 

[PK1]

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For those of you who like churches or like to follow "authority", here is a rational platform that focuses on reality ... based on what we really know and hypothesize from its sources:

Church of Reality

 

[hadit]

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Until you can prove otherwise, Jesus of Nazareth is DEAD; he supposedly died on the cross 2,000 years ago.

Regardless, I am a libertarian and serve no one beyond my family.

IF he indeed ever existed.

So much Roman documentation on Paul - but not a single word about Jesus - it's all a bit odd.

Paul appealed his case to Ceasar, Jesus did not. Paul traveled to Rome and preached there, Jesus did not. Naturally, Romans would have more documentation on him.

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Paul did not know Jesus and never met him in reality. His initial reaction to the newly formed Christian movement was to zealously persecute its early followers and to violently attempt to destroy the movement.

And them he got the idea to create a Jesus myth to sell his "authority" and convert suckers, pretending he was a convert himself after "seeing" a resurrected Jesus.
His con game was effective, and he proceeded to write much of the NT crap or his name was used in the holy book publications by other con men.

And now you know the rest of the amazing story!

At least the parts that you made up because you don't like the original.

 

[Taz]

It's a false choice. And not really a choice at all. You follow or you burn. Thinking that that's a choice is completely absurd. And any "god" who threatens me like that isn't worthy of my respect.

so 1) no one in their right mind would choose to burn.......2) you have chosen to burn.......3) you are not in your right mind?......comment:

You're afraid of an invisible non-existent being that will burn you for all eternity if you don't obey it and pay protection money to the people pretending to speak for it. I'm sure even you think that that's stupid.

 

[Taz]

why worry about opinions....the Bible isn't vague....you get what you choose......
John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son

That's not a choice, that's a threat.

Do it or I torture you for all eternity.

It's a choice. You choose to believe he doesn't exist. You ppl think that it's not a choice if there are negative consequences for your willful stupidity. Tell me...why would god surround himself with people who hated and doubted him? Only an idiot would do that. You have the choice, there's a door to go through. You exclude yourselves and choose the fire, instead of opening the door. Good luck with that.

So what's your proof that I'll burn forever if I don't follow some invisible dude? Got anything?

 

[Taz]

No, what I said was: if I don't accept your god, HE pushes me off a cliff. That's not a choice I have, that's a threat your god is aiming at me.

I know that's what you said.......however it isn't true and we have shown you that every time you repeat it.......if you repeat it again we can show you that you are wrong again.......how many times do you want to do that?........you say its not a choice because the consequences are bad......yet, you chose the bad consequences freely, proving it can be done......

Saying follow me or I'll shoot you is a threat,not a choice. Now you know.

so you responded to the threat by following Jesus.....oh, wait.....but.....????.....

Is there a point you're trying to make? Or was that a surrender?

you came, you chose, you lost......

What kind of imbecile douchebaggy god goes around threatening people with eternal fire if they don't obey it? Got any proof of such a god? Anything at all?

 

[koshergrl]

why worry about opinions....the Bible isn't vague....you get what you choose......
John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son

That's not a choice, that's a threat.

Do it or I torture you for all eternity.

It's a choice. You choose to believe he doesn't exist. You ppl think that it's not a choice if there are negative consequences for your willful stupidity. Tell me...why would god surround himself with people who hated and doubted him? Only an idiot would do that. You have the choice, there's a door to go through. You exclude yourselves and choose the fire, instead of opening the door. Good luck with that.

So what's your proof that I'll burn forever if I don't follow some invisible dude? Got anything?

I don't have any proof. I choose to believe it. You choose not to. What's the problem?

 

[koshergrl]

It's a false choice. And not really a choice at all. You follow or you burn. Thinking that that's a choice is completely absurd. And any "god" who threatens me like that isn't worthy of my respect.

so 1) no one in their right mind would choose to burn.......2) you have chosen to burn.......3) you are not in your right mind?......comment:

You're afraid of an invisible non-existent being that will burn you for all eternity if you don't obey it and pay protection money to the people pretending to speak for it. I'm sure even you think that that's stupid.

Nope, he doesn't. And neither do a lot of other people...many of them smarter, better educated, and more worldly than you. The only difference is you stupidly believe you're smarter than the being who created you, and your hubris during this life is more important than joy in the next.

 

[PostmodernProph]

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Until you can prove otherwise, Jesus of Nazareth is DEAD; he supposedly died on the cross 2,000 years ago.

Regardless, I am a libertarian and serve no one beyond my family.

IF he indeed ever existed.

So much Roman documentation on Paul - but not a single word about Jesus - it's all a bit odd.

Paul appealed his case to Ceasar, Jesus did not. Paul traveled to Rome and preached there, Jesus did not. Naturally, Romans would have more documentation on him.

---
Paul did not know Jesus and never met him in reality. His initial reaction to the newly formed Christian movement was to zealously persecute its early followers and to violently attempt to destroy the movement.

And them he got the idea to create a Jesus myth to sell his "authority" and convert suckers, pretending he was a convert himself after "seeing" a resurrected Jesus.
His con game was effective, and he proceeded to write much of the NT crap or his name was used in the holy book publications by other con men.

And now you know the rest of the amazing story!

lol..... con game to get himself imprisoned in Rome?......what a graft!.......