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I will talk to your Mormon missionaries. PM me with a date and time. I will PM you my address and telephone number.
Please have them come on Saturday, that is my day off. Send them in the morning, because I plan to take all day.
By the end of the day, you will either have a new convert to Mormonism, or you will have two broken missionaries.
To Avatar, and any other Mormons on this thread
Please don't get offended by what I am going to say.
Some of us refuse to read the book of Mormons out of fear that we might get brain washed. Yes, I think it is very potent Brain wash!
You seem like good decent people. But the fact remains that there is something quirky about the history of your religion, some of its claims--and prophet Joseph Smith!!
Especially, Joseph Smith.
Is that his real name?
See how suspicious I am of Mormonism?
My instincts are screaming "No" to reading it.
The Book of Mormon contradicts Itself and other inspired Mormon writings!
The Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible![TBODY] [/TBODY]
One God Plural Gods Book of Mormon: Alma 11:27-39, 44; 2 Nephi 31:21; Mormon 7:7; 3 Nephi 11:27 Testimony of the three witnesses Doctrine and Covenants: Section 121:32; 132:18-20, 37 God is a Spirit God Has a Body B. of M. - Alma 18:26-28; 22:8-11 D. & C. - Section 130:22 God Dwells in Heart God Does Not Dwell in Heart B. of M. - Alma 34:36 D. & C. - Section 130:3 Creation - One God Creation - Plural Gods B. of M. - 2 Nephi 2:14; Jacob 4:9 Pearl of Great Price - Moses, Chapter 2 Book of Abraham - Chapters 4 and 5 God Cannot Lie God Commands Lying B. of M. - Ether 3:12; 2 Nephi 9:34 P.G.P. - Book of Abraham 2:22-25 God's Word Unchangeable God's Word Can Change B. of M. - Alma 41:8 D. & C. - Section 56:4-5 No Pre-Existence of Man Man Pre-Existed B. of M. - Jacob 4:9; Alma 18:28, 34-36 D. & C. - Section 93:23, 29-33 P.G.P. - Bk of Abraham 3:18, 21-23 Death Seals Man's Fate Chance After Death B. of M. - Mosiah 2:36-39; Alma 34:32-35 D. & C. - Section 76:106-112; 88:99 Heathen Saved Without Baptism Baptism for Dead B. of M. - Moroni 8:22-23 2 Nephi 9:25-26; Mosiah 15:24-27 D. & C. - Section 128:5, 17-18 Heaven or Hell Three Kingdoms in Heaven - Most Saved B. of M. - 2 Nephi 28:22; 1 Nephi 15:35; Most SavedMosiah 16:11, 27:31; Alma 41:4-8, 42:16 D. & C. - Section 76:43, 70-112 Murder Can Be Forgiven No Forgiveness For Murder B. of M.- 3 Nephi 30:2 D. & C. - Section 42:18 Polygamy Condemned Polygamy Commanded B. of M. - Jacob 1:15, 2:24, 3:5; Mosiah 11:2 D. & C. - Section 132:1, 37-39, 61 2 Nephi 26:31; Mosiah 27:5 D. & C. - Section 42:71-73; 43:12-13; 51:13-14 B. of M. - Mormon 8:32 D. & C. - Section 64:23 Adam in America Adam in Old World D. & C. - Section 107:53; 116; 117:8 P.G.P. - Book of Moses 3:8, 10-15
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Bible Book of Mormon Church began in 33 AD Mt 16:18 Acts 2 church began in 147BC, Mosiah 18:17 "disciples were first called Christians in Antioch" 40AD, Acts 11:26 Alma 46:13-16 supposedly written in 73BC refers to Nephites as Christians. Jesus is only head of church Col 1:18 Joe Smith is head of Mormon church D&C 28:2-6 "Jesus was born in Bethlehem" Mt 2:1 + Mt 21:17 "He shall be born of Mary at Jerusalem" Alma 7:10 3 hours of darkness at crucifixion Lk 23:44 3 Days of darkness at crucifixion Hel 14:20-27 God is spirit without flesh &bones Jn 4:24; Lk 24:39 God has flesh and bones like man: D&C 130:22
See the Ten Commandments.Whats so wrong about having 40 wives?
What was even worse, was the horny Joseph Smith would tell these women and young girls (there was more than one pubescent girl) - God tells me you must marry me, you have 24 hours to comply, if you decline, "the gates will be closed forever against you."
Under the Banner of Heaven A Story of Violent Faith - Jon Krakauer - Google Books
Isn't that special?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/11/us/its-official-mormon-founder-had-up-to-40-wives.html?_r=0
The internet, which makes all information instantly available, may spell doom for the Mormon Church.
"What was even worse, was the horny Joseph Smith would tell these women and young girls (there was more than one pubescent girl) - God tells me you must marry me, you have 24 hours to comply, if you decline, "the gates will be closed forever against you."
Under the Banner of Heaven A Story of Violent Faith - Jon Krakauer - Google Books
Isn't that special?
It seems to me that you aren't really accurately quoting what someone is saying when only part of the supposed quote is in the quotation marks
My question is why the creative game with quotation marks if he was telling the truth? Why not just quote the entire quote in context?.
Smedly, you were caught out and your deflections are meaningless.
The Book of Mormon contradicts Itself and other inspired Mormon writings!
The Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible![TBODY] [/TBODY]
One God Plural Gods Book of Mormon: Alma 11:27-39, 44; 2 Nephi 31:21; Mormon 7:7; 3 Nephi 11:27 Testimony of the three witnesses Doctrine and Covenants: Section 121:32; 132:18-20, 37 God is a Spirit God Has a Body B. of M. - Alma 18:26-28; 22:8-11 D. & C. - Section 130:22 God Dwells in Heart God Does Not Dwell in Heart B. of M. - Alma 34:36 D. & C. - Section 130:3 Creation - One God Creation - Plural Gods B. of M. - 2 Nephi 2:14; Jacob 4:9 Pearl of Great Price - Moses, Chapter 2 Book of Abraham - Chapters 4 and 5 God Cannot Lie God Commands Lying B. of M. - Ether 3:12; 2 Nephi 9:34 P.G.P. - Book of Abraham 2:22-25 God's Word Unchangeable God's Word Can Change B. of M. - Alma 41:8 D. & C. - Section 56:4-5 No Pre-Existence of Man Man Pre-Existed B. of M. - Jacob 4:9; Alma 18:28, 34-36 D. & C. - Section 93:23, 29-33 P.G.P. - Bk of Abraham 3:18, 21-23 Death Seals Man's Fate Chance After Death B. of M. - Mosiah 2:36-39; Alma 34:32-35 D. & C. - Section 76:106-112; 88:99 Heathen Saved Without Baptism Baptism for Dead B. of M. - Moroni 8:22-23 2 Nephi 9:25-26; Mosiah 15:24-27 D. & C. - Section 128:5, 17-18 Heaven or Hell Three Kingdoms in Heaven - Most Saved B. of M. - 2 Nephi 28:22; 1 Nephi 15:35; Most SavedMosiah 16:11, 27:31; Alma 41:4-8, 42:16 D. & C. - Section 76:43, 70-112 Murder Can Be Forgiven No Forgiveness For Murder B. of M.- 3 Nephi 30:2 D. & C. - Section 42:18 Polygamy Condemned Polygamy Commanded B. of M. - Jacob 1:15, 2:24, 3:5; Mosiah 11:2 D. & C. - Section 132:1, 37-39, 61 2 Nephi 26:31; Mosiah 27:5 D. & C. - Section 42:71-73; 43:12-13; 51:13-14 B. of M. - Mormon 8:32 D. & C. - Section 64:23 Adam in America Adam in Old World D. & C. - Section 107:53; 116; 117:8 P.G.P. - Book of Moses 3:8, 10-15
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Bible Book of Mormon Church began in 33 AD Mt 16:18 Acts 2 church began in 147BC, Mosiah 18:17 "disciples were first called Christians in Antioch" 40AD, Acts 11:26 Alma 46:13-16 supposedly written in 73BC refers to Nephites as Christians. Jesus is only head of church Col 1:18 Joe Smith is head of Mormon church D&C 28:2-6 "Jesus was born in Bethlehem" Mt 2:1 + Mt 21:17 "He shall be born of Mary at Jerusalem" Alma 7:10 3 hours of darkness at crucifixion Lk 23:44 3 Days of darkness at crucifixion Hel 14:20-27 God is spirit without flesh &bones Jn 4:24; Lk 24:39 God has flesh and bones like man: D&C 130:22
You are really good at cutting and pasting.
You might want to browse the internet a bit more though. People have answered the alleged problems more than 15 years ago.
Why don't you read the Book of Mormon for yourself instead of relying on what others say about it?
Moses was not married to two women at the same time. The second marriage was long after the first either resulted in divorce or death.See the Ten Commandments.Whats so wrong about having 40 wives?
You realize Moses had more than one wife, right?
You also realize that you aren't committing adultery if you are married to them, right?
It seems to me that if a man marries and takes care of multiple women and their children, our society would be far better off than it is with men staying single, hooking up with multiple women and dropping them and the children the second things gets serious. At least it seems that way to me.
Glutton for punishment?If Mormons still practiced polygamy and it was legal on religious ground then hell! I'd sign up tomorrow!
"What was even worse, was the horny Joseph Smith would tell these women and young girls (there was more than one pubescent girl) - God tells me you must marry me, you have 24 hours to comply, if you decline, "the gates will be closed forever against you."
Under the Banner of Heaven A Story of Violent Faith - Jon Krakauer - Google Books
Isn't that special?
It seems to me that you aren't really accurately quoting what someone is saying when only part of the supposed quote is in the quotation marks
My question is why the creative game with quotation marks if he was telling the truth? Why not just quote the entire quote in context?.
You're using semantics to defend the founder of your "church". That tells me you have no real defense against the charges of child molesting and sexual harassment. Actually "sexual harassment" really is too mild a term for a man who uses the authoritarian power of church leadership to coerce women and girls into a sexual relationship. Catholic priests and Pastors of other denominations who do the same thing are not accorded such mild terms of condemnation. So will you step forward and acknowledge this evil side of Joseph Smith or defend it by some twisted bit of apologia?
