Mosque shooting in New Zealand

[Blues Man]

There are more things under heaven and on earth that effect murder rates, Harmonica, than gun laws.

......the US has one of the highest gun owner ships in the world--yet the murder rate is MANY times higher than France, Japan, UK, NZ, etc
..please explain....
what else Affects murder rates?

You do know that we are different from France, Japan etc don't you?

There are many factors that affect murder rates besides gun laws

That you see gun laws as a panacea for murder illustrates your simplistic thinking

Many states with lax gun laws have murder rates as low as the UK

....I asked you to state those factors--and you DID NOT--because you know it's bullshit
one more time--state the factors

Poverty, unemployment under employment, shit schools, break down of the family unit,

Where do most murders and violent crimes take place in this country?

Poor urban areas all afflicted by the above.

Denying that we have very significant, political, cultural, and socioeconomic differences from those European countries you love so much is extremely simplistic

You have left out this one. The majority of these users comes from middle and upper class homes..



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You'll notice I said the majority of murders and violent crime

Mass shootings account for less than 1% of all murders and vaccines have nothing to do with anything in this thread

 

[Baron]

Who benefit from the attack?

1. Zionists who can smear white nationalists in dirt
2. Zionists again who want to ignite a war between Christians and Muslims
3 Zionists at third time who will receive more tax money for their NGO's and 'human right' 'activists' to fight white nationalists

Christchurch is a typical False Flag action.

 

[Baron]

Had someone in those mosques had a gun, the shooter could have been stopped....he reloaded several times......

another gun free zone tragedy.....

The guy works for zionists, a False Flag action.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Apparently, gun control doesn't work in New Zealand......they have had a mass public shooting against two Mosques. The shooter....who had a gun.......may have killed 49 people....... but this isn't possible, because they have gun control in New Zealand...so initial reports are likely wrong....

And, of course, the sites were gun free zones....right?

And before the anti-gunners start......I used to wait to comment on these attacks....until the anti-gunners would be the first on the scene, walking through the blood, dragging the bodies to the nearest camera calling for taking guns away from the very people who could have stopped the attack...

Christchurch shooting: 49 dead in terror attack at two mosques – live updates

• Forty-nine people have been killed in shootings at two mosques in the New Zealand city of Christchurch. They included 41 people killed at the Deans Avenue mosque and seven at Linwood mosque. Another victim died later in Christchurch hospital.

So, Gun Control, means no one has any guns?

We already have plenty of gun control laws

Evidently, not enough.

Said no reasoned person, ever.
There's no reason whatsoever to add more gun laws until the current laws are fully enforced.

 

[M14 Shooter]

How many armed people stood outside at Parkland.
Your statistics are bullshit.
Mass shootings at bars, churches/mosques, businesses.

Gun free zones.
You prefer your victims unarmed.

 

[JoeB131]

Gun control is tighter in New Zealand.

Um, no actually it isn't. Gun laws are kind of lax in NZ compared to Australia, where they CONFISCATED most of the guns back in the 1990's.

They aren't as crazy as we are, were we think any crazy person who likes to dress up as The Joker has a right to have a machine gun with a 100 round clip!

 

[Rustic]

The shooter........calls himself an Eco-fascist, zero population, anti-capitalist...........before the left wingers start up......

Actually, the shooter's are Trump disciples, who left a 74 page manifesto to those ends.

If they're not shooting up Jewish synagogues in Trumps name, thy're shooting up Mosques in Trumps name. All of those peoples bloo is on Trumps hands. The government of New Zealand is calling them exactly what they are. White terrorists.

Only fools look at everything through race and gender...

 

[Blues Man]

Gun control is tighter in New Zealand.

Um, no actually it isn't. Gun laws are kind of lax in NZ compared to Australia, where they CONFISCATED most of the guns back in the 1990's.

They aren't as crazy as we are, were we think any crazy person who likes to dress up as The Joker has a right to have a machine gun with a 100 round clip!

He didn't have a machine gun. Moron

 

[Rustic]

Gun control is tighter in New Zealand.

Um, no actually it isn't. Gun laws are kind of lax in NZ compared to Australia, where they CONFISCATED most of the guns back in the 1990's.

They aren't as crazy as we are, were we think any crazy person who likes to dress up as The Joker has a right to have a machine gun with a 100 round clip!

It’s called a magazine not a clip... dumbass

 

[Rustic]

Apparently, gun control doesn't work in New Zealand......they have had a mass public shooting against two Mosques. The shooter....who had a gun.......may have killed 49 people....... but this isn't possible, because they have gun control in New Zealand...so initial reports are likely wrong....

And, of course, the sites were gun free zones....right?

And before the anti-gunners start......I used to wait to comment on these attacks....until the anti-gunners would be the first on the scene, walking through the blood, dragging the bodies to the nearest camera calling for taking guns away from the very people who could have stopped the attack...

Christchurch shooting: 49 dead in terror attack at two mosques – live updates

• Forty-nine people have been killed in shootings at two mosques in the New Zealand city of Christchurch. They included 41 people killed at the Deans Avenue mosque and seven at Linwood mosque. Another victim died later in Christchurch hospital.

Figures you would focus on that. Just in case it escaped your notice, this was a crime perpetuated for no other reason than they were Muslims. But there is no hatred of Muslims according to Trump supporters after the House condemned all hatred.

Lol
Name one Muslim controlled country that Tolerates anything other than Islam?

This is all you need to know about Islam/Muslims...
20 Commandments of Mohammad the founder of Islam
1. Thou shall Rape, Marry, and Divorce Pre-pubescent Girls. Koran 65:4
2. Thou shall have Sex Slaves and Work Slaves. Koran 4:3, 4:24, 5:89, 33:50, 58:3, 70:30
3. Thou shall Beat Sex Slaves, Work Slaves, and Wives. Koran 4:34
4. Thou shall have 4 Muslim male witnesses to prove rape. Koran 24:13
5. Thou shall Kill those who insult Islam or Mohammed. Koran 33:57
6. Thou shall Crucify and Amputate non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
7. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims to guarantee receiving 72 virgins in heaven. Koran 9:111
8. Thou shall Kill anyone who leaves Islam. Koran 2:217, 4:89
9. Thou shall Behead non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
10. Thou shall Kill AND be Killed for Islamic Allah. Koran 9:5
11. Thou shall Terrorize non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 8:60
12. Thou shall Steal and Rob from non-Muslims. Koran Chapter 8 (Booty/Spoils of War)
13. Thou shall Lie to Strengthen Islam. Koran 3:28, 16:106
14. Thou shall Fight non-Muslim even if you don't want to. Koran 2:216
15. Thou shall not take non-Muslims as friends. Koran 5:51
16. Thou shall Call non-Muslims Pigs and Apes. Koran 5:60, 7:166, 16:106
17. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as the vilest creatures deserving no mercy. Koran 98:6
18. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as sworn enemies. Koran 4:101
19. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims for not converting to Islam. Koran 9:29
20. Thou shall Extort non-Muslims to keep Islam strong. Koran 9:29.

 

[Rustic]

The shooter........calls himself an Eco-fascist, zero population, anti-capitalist...........before the left wingers start up......

Again, there were multiple shooters from what i'm reading...

Yep, even worse........complete failure of gun control and a complete failure of gun free zones to keep people safe...on an island, with gun control.

And even with all of these murders, this is still fewer people than are murdered by guns in the USA in one week.

Guns don’t kill people people kill people...
More people die in a weekend in Chicago and Detroit from violence...

 

[Jitss617]

Message was sent

 

[cwise76]

The real dumbasses think the attack is going to stay over there LMFAO wait until the US is given the go ahead and you stupid fk Trump haters think there's no ody at the border because Jim Acosta took you there lmfao, omfg that is so hard to believe you fkrs are that stupid to fall for nobody at the border live there stupid fks!!!

THERE IS AN ATTACK ON CHRISTIANS AND ONE MOD INCLUDE LAST YEAR HAS THE BALLS TO SAY IT WASN'T TRUE THEY ARE KILLING CHRISTIANS YOU STUPID FKRS..........

THEY ARE COMING FOR YOU NENXT DUMBASSES............ CHRISTIAN OR NOT YOU BETTER BE A MUSLIM OR DIES YOU STUPID ASSES .

WHEN THEY WANT YOU STUPID WHITE DUMBASSES TO SUBMIT TO ALLAH YOU BETTER DO IT OR DIE MORONS..

YOU DONN'T GET TO BE AN ATHEIST STUPID FK
YOU DON'T GET TO BE PROTISTAN
YOU DONN'T GET TO CATHOLIC
YOU DON'T GET TO BE ESCOP.
YOU DON'T GET TO BE .....................................................

BE A MUSLIM OR DIE

There is no attack on Christians nnoo wtf ever gave your idiots that idea.

Germany protects Jihadis not Christians. Christian, Yazidi Refugees who once looked to Germany for safety are now fleeing the country in fear for their lives. Refugees are encountering their ISIS captors in the streets Within 30yrs Germans will be a minority in their OWN county



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this is the bs you Trump hating k....ts want here


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OMAR will say " WE DIDN'T DO THAT" .........

MORE ATTACKS ARE COMING IT WILL HAPPEN ACROSS THE GLOBE........

THEY ARE COMING FOR THE CHRISTIANS ALL OVER THE WORLD WAKE THE HELL UP!!!

THEN ASK YOUR STUID ASS SELVES WHERE I N THE HELL DID THEY GET THOSE GUNS..

FAST ANDN FURIOUS RING A FK NBELL OF COURSE NONT.

Germany protects Jihadis not Christians. Christian, Yazidi Refugees who once looked to Germany for safety are now fleeing the country in fear for their lives. Refugees are encountering their ISIS captors in the streets Within 30yrs Germans will be a minority in their OWN county

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Might be time to check yourself in

 

[Rustic]

People in wealthy neighborhoods who mostly came from good homes and have some sort of education tend to commit less crimes than those who were born in a poor neighborhood to a single mother.

Wait - what?
Education and upbringing has a greater effect on crime than gun control laws?
Huh.

I get it. If gun control is not the major factor but rather just an important facoir

Ah. Backpedalling. got it.
You cannot show it is an important factor.

No back pedaling at all.

Obviously, the best approach to gun violence ids to reach the shooters before they kill. Whether through insuring a better home life or mental screening. We can't insure those things but we van make it more difficult to these people to get gns let aline killing machines like assault type rifles.

Ar15s are just sporting rifles... nothing more nothing less

 

[cwise76]

One of the goals of the shooter was to drive a wedge between the Left and the Right here in the US.

Watch our stupid Libtard Moon Bats play right into his hands:

From his manifesto:

Why did you choose to use firearms?

I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.

I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world.

The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.

With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty.

This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines.

Some on the left want to muster the militia until we have no more security problems.

Nobody on the pussy Left in the US would even know which end of a gun to point.

it does't take long to get well regulated.

I am well regulated now with 50 firearms and tens of thousands of rounds of ammo.

Hair trigger? I bet you’ll end up in prison. You seem like you shoot first and ask questions later.

 

[cwise76]

People in wealthy neighborhoods who mostly came from good homes and have some sort of education tend to commit less crimes than those who were born in a poor neighborhood to a single mother.

Wait - what?
Education and upbringing has a greater effect on crime than gun control laws?
Huh.

I get it. If gun control is not the major factor but rather just an important facoir

Ah. Backpedalling. got it.
You cannot show it is an important factor.

No back pedaling at all.

Obviously, the best approach to gun violence ids to reach the shooters before they kill. Whether through insuring a better home life or mental screening. We can't insure those things but we van make it more difficult to these people to get gns let aline killing machines like assault type rifles.

Ar15s are just sporting rifles... nothing more nothing less

Wrong. They are specifically designed for one thing: Killing people

 

[Rustic]

Gun laws in New Zealand - Wikipedia

I don’t see a complete ban on magazines....

I'm sorry:

• A magazine that holds more than 7 rounds; magazines holding up to 10 rounds may be modified to carry 7 rounds. The limit on rimfire is 15 rounds per magazine.
• A detachable magazine that holds more than 10 rounds, excepting rimfire magazines, which may carry 15 rounds.

This creates a 'military style semi-automatic', which requires a special special endorsement to an existing license.

That is far from a complete ban. They seem pretty liberal in handing out licenses.

The year before, of the 43,509 who people applied for firearms licences, 43,321 were granted them.

What are New Zealand's gun laws?

And yet...with all those people in New Zealand with guns for all of these years? This is the first mass public shooting.....because the people of New Zealand don't have a culture of killing each other in mass public shootings...

So, it isn't the guns, it is the culture.........

And when normal people have guns......like the guy at the 2nd Mosque......he saved lives by chasing off the attacker....a good guy with a gun......it wasn't a gun free zone and lives were saved.....

1st Mosque...no armed citizen...30 dead.

2nd Mosque, armed citizen, 10 dead....

As research shows, armed citizens who have their guns with them during mass public shootings are 94% effective at stopping the attack, and or saving lives and reducing casualties.......

And as we have seen. When there are weak laws and lots of guns, your much more likely to get shot. Our homicide rate is 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. There is also many, many more mass shootings...

Irrelevant

 

[Rustic]

The Islamaphobic, white nationalist murder of Muslims while praying in the Christchurch, New Zealand, mosque must be called what it is: terrorism perpetrated by a terrorist

Sorry....he was a left wing, self described Eco-Fascist......racism and hate are all part of the left wing...have been since forever....

Nationalist who hates Muslims....

The only thing worse than nationalism is globalism...

20 Commandments of Mohammad the founder of Islam
1. Thou shall Rape, Marry, and Divorce Pre-pubescent Girls. Koran 65:4
2. Thou shall have Sex Slaves and Work Slaves. Koran 4:3, 4:24, 5:89, 33:50, 58:3, 70:30
3. Thou shall Beat Sex Slaves, Work Slaves, and Wives. Koran 4:34
4. Thou shall have 4 Muslim male witnesses to prove rape. Koran 24:13
5. Thou shall Kill those who insult Islam or Mohammed. Koran 33:57
6. Thou shall Crucify and Amputate non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
7. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims to guarantee receiving 72 virgins in heaven. Koran 9:111
8. Thou shall Kill anyone who leaves Islam. Koran 2:217, 4:89
9. Thou shall Behead non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
10. Thou shall Kill AND be Killed for Islamic Allah. Koran 9:5
11. Thou shall Terrorize non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 8:60
12. Thou shall Steal and Rob from non-Muslims. Koran Chapter 8 (Booty/Spoils of War)
13. Thou shall Lie to Strengthen Islam. Koran 3:28, 16:106
14. Thou shall Fight non-Muslim even if you don't want to. Koran 2:216
15. Thou shall not take non-Muslims as friends. Koran 5:51
16. Thou shall Call non-Muslims Pigs and Apes. Koran 5:60, 7:166, 16:106
17. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as the vilest creatures deserving no mercy. Koran 98:6
18. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as sworn enemies. Koran 4:101
19. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims for not converting to Islam. Koran 9:29
20. Thou shall Extort non-Muslims to keep Islam strong. Koran 9:29.

 

[Rustic]

Apparently, gun control doesn't work in New Zealand......they have had a mass public shooting against two Mosques. The shooter....who had a gun.......may have killed 49 people....... but this isn't possible, because they have gun control in New Zealand...so initial reports are likely wrong....

And, of course, the sites were gun free zones....right?

And before the anti-gunners start......I used to wait to comment on these attacks....until the anti-gunners would be the first on the scene, walking through the blood, dragging the bodies to the nearest camera calling for taking guns away from the very people who could have stopped the attack...

Christchurch shooting: 49 dead in terror attack at two mosques – live updates

• Forty-nine people have been killed in shootings at two mosques in the New Zealand city of Christchurch. They included 41 people killed at the Deans Avenue mosque and seven at Linwood mosque. Another victim died later in Christchurch hospital.

So, Gun Control, means no one has any guns?

We already have plenty of gun control laws

Evidently, not enough.

People kill people not firearms… Firearms have nothing to do with violence

 

[rightwinger]

Looks like NZ is getting more gun control