Mueller Coloring Outside The Lines

[jc456]

Seriously, this is getting out of hand, and I realize that many on THE LEFT want to move THE US to a more Totalitarian Leftist State, but they should think twice before advocating that.

The Patriot Act is an Abomination. Warrant-less Wiretapping is an Affront to The Nostrils.

Investigations without being able to name violations of US CODE or present evidence of a crime is tyranny against a Free People!

Calling for a Grand Jury if one even is impaneled without filing a Petition with a US Court Listing The Alleged US CODE VIOLATIONS is an Extreme abuse and NEGATION of DUE PROCESS!

And so ARE....Pre-Dawn Raids, on a private home by THE FBI signed off by a Consenting Judge in which NO CRIME can be claimed to have been committed on the so called warrant, nor have the so called Investigators been able to present even one shred of evidence to The American People as Justification for what they are even Investigating!

To borrow an overused and hysterical phrase from The LEFT.

THIS IS NOT WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT!

Only we aren't hysterical......WE ARE PISSED!

Since when did Judges, and Un-Appointed Extra Legal Authorities, with UNLIMITED Extra CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS been allowed to RUN THIS COUNTRY?

And since when have our Duly Elected Representatives been allowed to be Criminally Negligent in conducting the business The American People have elected them to conduct, and have shirked their responsibilities, and have lost both THE WILL, and Courage to Govern?

It appears they no longer want THE RESPONSIBILITY granted them by The American People to carry out our will, to protect our rights, and to defend THE CONSTITUTION, and defend our way of life!

Perhaps it is time to take that responsibility back from an overgrown, and slothful government, put them on a diet with a balanced budget amendment, and enforce and enact rules which limit their terms, and powers.

Trump lawyer slams special counsel for 'gross abuse' in Manafort raid, challenges warrant

Stop crying. You were fine with all 900 Benghazi investigations that turned into investigations that had nothing to do with Benghazi and turned into an email investigation..

crying? you just didn't write that. the whiney left bitches trying to interfere in the country's business. you whiners? you all have king of the whiner hill

 

[IM2]

Hate and fear motivates them

LOL!!!

Sorry, love of the United States motivates me.

The DEM Party is the one with "hate and fear" motivating just about everyone who votes for them.

Hate targets of the Dems - whites, capitalists, those who question gloBULL warming

Fear tactics of the Dems - MediSCARE, GloBULL warming, now ObamacareSCARE, and the most important one...

the other side may CUT OFF YOUR GOVERNMENT CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really? You "love the United States" and yet don't seem to love Democrats.

How do you define what you love? Do you love our majestic mountains being decimated by Big Coal? Or our Rivers and Air and Soil threatened by deregulaters?

Everyone who loves America despises those who hate America: Democrats.

Except Democrats are the ones who actually love America.

 

[IM2]

Seriously, this is getting out of hand, and I realize that many on THE LEFT want to move THE US to a more Totalitarian Leftist State, but they should think twice before advocating that.

The Patriot Act is an Abomination. Warrant-less Wiretapping is an Affront to The Nostrils.

Investigations without being able to name violations of US CODE or present evidence of a crime is tyranny against a Free People!

Calling for a Grand Jury if one even is impaneled without filing a Petition with a US Court Listing The Alleged US CODE VIOLATIONS is an Extreme abuse and NEGATION of DUE PROCESS!

And so ARE....Pre-Dawn Raids, on a private home by THE FBI signed off by a Consenting Judge in which NO CRIME can be claimed to have been committed on the so called warrant, nor have the so called Investigators been able to present even one shred of evidence to The American People as Justification for what they are even Investigating!

To borrow an overused and hysterical phrase from The LEFT.

THIS IS NOT WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT!

Only we aren't hysterical......WE ARE PISSED!

Since when did Judges, and Un-Appointed Extra Legal Authorities, with UNLIMITED Extra CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS been allowed to RUN THIS COUNTRY?

And since when have our Duly Elected Representatives been allowed to be Criminally Negligent in conducting the business The American People have elected them to conduct, and have shirked their responsibilities, and have lost both THE WILL, and Courage to Govern?

It appears they no longer want THE RESPONSIBILITY granted them by The American People to carry out our will, to protect our rights, and to defend THE CONSTITUTION, and defend our way of life!

Perhaps it is time to take that responsibility back from an overgrown, and slothful government, put them on a diet with a balanced budget amendment, and enforce and enact rules which limit their terms, and powers.

Trump lawyer slams special counsel for 'gross abuse' in Manafort raid, challenges warrant

Stop crying. You were fine with all 900 Benghazi investigations that turned into investigations that had nothing to do with Benghazi and turned into an email investigation..

crying? you just didn't write that. the whiney left bitches trying to interfere in the country's business. you whiners? you all have king of the whiner hill

I did write it and you chicken wings are crying.

 

[bripat9643]

Seriously, this is getting out of hand, and I realize that many on THE LEFT want to move THE US to a more Totalitarian Leftist State, but they should think twice before advocating that.

The Patriot Act is an Abomination. Warrant-less Wiretapping is an Affront to The Nostrils.

Investigations without being able to name violations of US CODE or present evidence of a crime is tyranny against a Free People!

Calling for a Grand Jury if one even is impaneled without filing a Petition with a US Court Listing The Alleged US CODE VIOLATIONS is an Extreme abuse and NEGATION of DUE PROCESS!

And so ARE....Pre-Dawn Raids, on a private home by THE FBI signed off by a Consenting Judge in which NO CRIME can be claimed to have been committed on the so called warrant, nor have the so called Investigators been able to present even one shred of evidence to The American People as Justification for what they are even Investigating!

To borrow an overused and hysterical phrase from The LEFT.

THIS IS NOT WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT!

Only we aren't hysterical......WE ARE PISSED!

Since when did Judges, and Un-Appointed Extra Legal Authorities, with UNLIMITED Extra CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS been allowed to RUN THIS COUNTRY?

And since when have our Duly Elected Representatives been allowed to be Criminally Negligent in conducting the business The American People have elected them to conduct, and have shirked their responsibilities, and have lost both THE WILL, and Courage to Govern?

It appears they no longer want THE RESPONSIBILITY granted them by The American People to carry out our will, to protect our rights, and to defend THE CONSTITUTION, and defend our way of life!

Perhaps it is time to take that responsibility back from an overgrown, and slothful government, put them on a diet with a balanced budget amendment, and enforce and enact rules which limit their terms, and powers.

Trump lawyer slams special counsel for 'gross abuse' in Manafort raid, challenges warrant

Where do you get this notion that Mueller has some duty to specify what sections of the US code were possibly violated before he concludes his investigation? Links please.

I realize to an American Hating Liberal the 2nd and 4th Amendments are annoyances, but they protect scum like Hillary Clinton too.

In other words, The Warrant to Raid Manafort's Private Residence is INVALID and Constitutes ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE.
Manafort already agreed to cooperate and hand over the documents the FBI wanted. There was no reasonable reason to believe he would destroy any of the documents, unlike Hillary Clinton who deleted 33,000 documents that were under TWO COURT ORDERED Preservation Orders.


The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement


Once the Fourth Amendment applies to a particular search or seizure, the next question is under what circumstances is a warrant required. The Supreme Court has ruled that the Constitution expresses a preference for searches, seizures, and arrests conducted pursuant to a lawfully executed warrant (see Mincey v. Arizona, 437 U.S. 385 [1978]).

A warrant is a written order signed by a court authorizing a law-enforcement officer to conduct a search, seizure, or arrest. Searches, seizures, and arrests performed without a valid warrant are deemed presumptively invalid, and any evidence seized without a warrant will be suppressed unless a court finds that the search was reasonable under the circumstances.

Requirements for a Valid Search Warrant

An application for a warrant must be supported by a sworn, detailed statement made by a law enforcement officer appearing before a neutral judge or magistrate. The Supreme Court has said that probable cause exists when the facts and circumstances within the police officer's knowledge provide a reasonably trustworthy basis for a man of reasonable caution to believe that a criminal offense has been committed or is about to take place (see Carroll v. United States, 267 U.S. 132 [1925]).

How to Establish Probable Cause

Probable cause can be established by out-of-court statements made by reliable police informants, even though those statements cannot be tested by the magistrate. However, probable cause will not lie where the only evidence of criminal activity is an officer's affirmation of suspicion or belief (see Aguilar v. Texas, 378 U.S. 108 [1964]). On the other hand, an officer's subjective reason for making an arrest does not need to be the same criminal offense for which the facts indicate. (Devenpeck v. Alford, 543 U.S. 146 [2004]).

The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement - FindLaw

the thing isn't that you're a asshole, but that you are a arrogant asshole who has no clue what you're talking about. You're link has nothing to do with the search warrant issued in this case. Do you even have a link to the actual warrant?

And btw fucktard chump for trump, I didn't vote for Hillary,

I doubt the actual link would be available.

But trump's lawyers made this statement:

"Dowd said that among the documents obtained by FBI agents were "privileged and confidential materials prepared for Mr. Manafort by his counsel to aid him in his cooperation with the Congressional committees," according to Fox News.

"These failures by Special Counsel to exhaust less intrusive methods is a fatal flaw in the warrant process and would call for a Motion to Suppress the fruits of the search," he wrote."

Dude, you don't have to put a code section in a search warrant or anything else beyond an indictment. As UnoriginalTree's link actually pointed out, a warrant has to clearly specify what is suspected to be there to be seized and how that is relevant to a suspected criminal violation. However, Mueller is actually tasked to investigate what contacts Russia had with the Trump campaign, and that need not be a criminal investigation of Trump, although at this point I think we all know Mueller is looking into whether actual laws were broken.

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

 

[bripat9643]

Hate and fear motivates them

LOL!!!

Sorry, love of the United States motivates me.

The DEM Party is the one with "hate and fear" motivating just about everyone who votes for them.

Hate targets of the Dems - whites, capitalists, those who question gloBULL warming

Fear tactics of the Dems - MediSCARE, GloBULL warming, now ObamacareSCARE, and the most important one...

the other side may CUT OFF YOUR GOVERNMENT CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really? You "love the United States" and yet don't seem to love Democrats.

How do you define what you love? Do you love our majestic mountains being decimated by Big Coal? Or our Rivers and Air and Soil threatened by deregulaters?

Everyone who loves America despises those who hate America: Democrats.

Except Democrats are the ones who actually love America.

That's been proven wrong 10,000 times over.

 

[IM2]

The Left doesn't care about a State Department Coverup and illegal gun running operation for terrorists and paid terrorists for assassinations and coups who then turned on their backers and murdered people in Benghazi due to Clinton's reckless and careless and criminal handling of classified information!

But they care about entirely legal meetings with Ambassadors?

nope not at all. one needs a crime to request a warrant. Don't you live in the US? why are you for illegal searches and seizures? holy crap the countries in trouble if you think a cop can just walk in your house with no actual crime.

One needs Probable Cause that a crime was committed or might be committed and must come from specific facts or circumstances and not a hunch or suspicion (such as profiling). How many warrants have you written and signed under oath?

and so what is the probable crime? I'm still waiting.

A meeting on or about June 6, 2016 with Russian nationals at the Trump Tower, which the parties connected by blood or business with The President lied about. That's what is called Probable Cause.

Lying by omission on national security documents is a crime, and gives probable cause to look further into the actions of the actor who lied.

That's not a crime, moron. It's no more criminal than me having dinner with my in-laws. You idiots have been told that over and over and over, but you keep treating it as if it's a crime. What that shows is that you don't give a crap about truth or the facts. You have all earned the sobriquet "douche bag."

The reality here is that YOU are the one refusing to accept the facts. Democrats have lost elections before, so why in the hell do we choose this one to make some shit up about? Why didn't we do this when Bush was given the election by the supreme court? This is just how dumb the shit you say is. .

 

[bripat9643]

again, he isn't being pursued for foreign agent. He's a businessman you should look that up in the dictionary.

He was acting as a foreign agent. That's why his house was searched.

Time to waterboard.

That's meaningless twaddle. He failed to file some meaningless paperwork. That's all he did.

District judges don't provide bench warrants to search someone's house based on a paperwork error.

Leftwing douche bag judges do.

Who's the judge who issued the warrant? Name him or her and prove party affiliation or crawl back into your hole.

He/she is a DC judge, and obviously Mewler knows how to shop for the judge who will give him what he wants.

 

[IM2]

Where do you get this notion that Mueller has some duty to specify what sections of the US code were possibly violated before he concludes his investigation? Links please.

I realize to an American Hating Liberal the 2nd and 4th Amendments are annoyances, but they protect scum like Hillary Clinton too.

In other words, The Warrant to Raid Manafort's Private Residence is INVALID and Constitutes ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE.
Manafort already agreed to cooperate and hand over the documents the FBI wanted. There was no reasonable reason to believe he would destroy any of the documents, unlike Hillary Clinton who deleted 33,000 documents that were under TWO COURT ORDERED Preservation Orders.


The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement


Once the Fourth Amendment applies to a particular search or seizure, the next question is under what circumstances is a warrant required. The Supreme Court has ruled that the Constitution expresses a preference for searches, seizures, and arrests conducted pursuant to a lawfully executed warrant (see Mincey v. Arizona, 437 U.S. 385 [1978]).

A warrant is a written order signed by a court authorizing a law-enforcement officer to conduct a search, seizure, or arrest. Searches, seizures, and arrests performed without a valid warrant are deemed presumptively invalid, and any evidence seized without a warrant will be suppressed unless a court finds that the search was reasonable under the circumstances.

Requirements for a Valid Search Warrant

An application for a warrant must be supported by a sworn, detailed statement made by a law enforcement officer appearing before a neutral judge or magistrate. The Supreme Court has said that probable cause exists when the facts and circumstances within the police officer's knowledge provide a reasonably trustworthy basis for a man of reasonable caution to believe that a criminal offense has been committed or is about to take place (see Carroll v. United States, 267 U.S. 132 [1925]).

How to Establish Probable Cause

Probable cause can be established by out-of-court statements made by reliable police informants, even though those statements cannot be tested by the magistrate. However, probable cause will not lie where the only evidence of criminal activity is an officer's affirmation of suspicion or belief (see Aguilar v. Texas, 378 U.S. 108 [1964]). On the other hand, an officer's subjective reason for making an arrest does not need to be the same criminal offense for which the facts indicate. (Devenpeck v. Alford, 543 U.S. 146 [2004]).

The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement - FindLaw

the thing isn't that you're a asshole, but that you are a arrogant asshole who has no clue what you're talking about. You're link has nothing to do with the search warrant issued in this case. Do you even have a link to the actual warrant?

And btw fucktard chump for trump, I didn't vote for Hillary,

I doubt the actual link would be available.

But trump's lawyers made this statement:

"Dowd said that among the documents obtained by FBI agents were "privileged and confidential materials prepared for Mr. Manafort by his counsel to aid him in his cooperation with the Congressional committees," according to Fox News.

"These failures by Special Counsel to exhaust less intrusive methods is a fatal flaw in the warrant process and would call for a Motion to Suppress the fruits of the search," he wrote."

Dude, you don't have to put a code section in a search warrant or anything else beyond an indictment. As UnoriginalTree's link actually pointed out, a warrant has to clearly specify what is suspected to be there to be seized and how that is relevant to a suspected criminal violation. However, Mueller is actually tasked to investigate what contacts Russia had with the Trump campaign, and that need not be a criminal investigation of Trump, although at this point I think we all know Mueller is looking into whether actual laws were broken.

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Apparently they had probable cause.

 

[Baz Ares]

Mueller doesnt have any lines to cross, he can take any path he decides to.

so whine until youre purple and green.

It's like Ken Star never went far.
Like they just stayed at the whitewaters edge, was stopping
after some boxes were dumped at the door step
and just stopped there. They just stopped and they were happy
Then. Rightie'...O'.

 

[eagle7_31]

Seriously, this is getting out of hand, and I realize that many on THE LEFT want to move THE US to a more Totalitarian Leftist State, but they should think twice before advocating that.

The Patriot Act is an Abomination. Warrant-less Wiretapping is an Affront to The Nostrils.

Investigations without being able to name violations of US CODE or present evidence of a crime is tyranny against a Free People!

Calling for a Grand Jury if one even is impaneled without filing a Petition with a US Court Listing The Alleged US CODE VIOLATIONS is an Extreme abuse and NEGATION of DUE PROCESS!

And so ARE....Pre-Dawn Raids, on a private home by THE FBI signed off by a Consenting Judge in which NO CRIME can be claimed to have been committed on the so called warrant, nor have the so called Investigators been able to present even one shred of evidence to The American People as Justification for what they are even Investigating!

To borrow an overused and hysterical phrase from The LEFT.

THIS IS NOT WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT!

Only we aren't hysterical......WE ARE PISSED!

Since when did Judges, and Un-Appointed Extra Legal Authorities, with UNLIMITED Extra CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS been allowed to RUN THIS COUNTRY?

And since when have our Duly Elected Representatives been allowed to be Criminally Negligent in conducting the business The American People have elected them to conduct, and have shirked their responsibilities, and have lost both THE WILL, and Courage to Govern?

It appears they no longer want THE RESPONSIBILITY granted them by The American People to carry out our will, to protect our rights, and to defend THE CONSTITUTION, and defend our way of life!

Perhaps it is time to take that responsibility back from an overgrown, and slothful government, put them on a diet with a balanced budget amendment, and enforce and enact rules which limit their terms, and powers.

Trump lawyer slams special counsel for 'gross abuse' in Manafort raid, challenges warrant

the left would have a major problem if this were done to a left wing dem. But its okay since Trump is a Republican.

 

[Borillar]

AGAIN WHAT CRIMINAL OFFENSE DID MUELLER LIST IN HIS PETITION TO A SO CALLED NEUTRAL JUDGE FOR A WARRANT TO SUPPORT A RAID BASED UPON "PROBABLE CAUSE"?

BITE ME LEFTIES!
And guess what SCUM.....A Petition for a GRAND JURY REQUIRES EVEN MORE INFORMATION AND PROOF THAN A WARRANT.
WHERE IS THE PETITION? There is no LEGAL GRAND JURY IMPANELED! & THE WARRANT ISSUED FOR A SPLASHY RAID, IS INVALID.

Had they found something, Mueller & Comey would have leaked the RAID and what they found like a menstruating bitch on her period to THE MEDIA!

SO Y'all can fuck off, and decrease the surplus population!

The FBI pulled this same stunt when the conducted the Waco raid. It's nothing new for them.

It's a Republican-created agency (Herbert Hoover) that was directed by a Republican (James Comey) before a Republican (Christopher Wray) was appointed recently to take his place.
Still not happy, bubby? Oh poor little thing. You're so fucked up.

Still waiting for him to point out the Dem in this Republican investigation.

 

[bripat9643]

I realize to an American Hating Liberal the 2nd and 4th Amendments are annoyances, but they protect scum like Hillary Clinton too.

In other words, The Warrant to Raid Manafort's Private Residence is INVALID and Constitutes ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE.
Manafort already agreed to cooperate and hand over the documents the FBI wanted. There was no reasonable reason to believe he would destroy any of the documents, unlike Hillary Clinton who deleted 33,000 documents that were under TWO COURT ORDERED Preservation Orders.


The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement


Once the Fourth Amendment applies to a particular search or seizure, the next question is under what circumstances is a warrant required. The Supreme Court has ruled that the Constitution expresses a preference for searches, seizures, and arrests conducted pursuant to a lawfully executed warrant (see Mincey v. Arizona, 437 U.S. 385 [1978]).

A warrant is a written order signed by a court authorizing a law-enforcement officer to conduct a search, seizure, or arrest. Searches, seizures, and arrests performed without a valid warrant are deemed presumptively invalid, and any evidence seized without a warrant will be suppressed unless a court finds that the search was reasonable under the circumstances.

Requirements for a Valid Search Warrant

An application for a warrant must be supported by a sworn, detailed statement made by a law enforcement officer appearing before a neutral judge or magistrate. The Supreme Court has said that probable cause exists when the facts and circumstances within the police officer's knowledge provide a reasonably trustworthy basis for a man of reasonable caution to believe that a criminal offense has been committed or is about to take place (see Carroll v. United States, 267 U.S. 132 [1925]).

How to Establish Probable Cause

Probable cause can be established by out-of-court statements made by reliable police informants, even though those statements cannot be tested by the magistrate. However, probable cause will not lie where the only evidence of criminal activity is an officer's affirmation of suspicion or belief (see Aguilar v. Texas, 378 U.S. 108 [1964]). On the other hand, an officer's subjective reason for making an arrest does not need to be the same criminal offense for which the facts indicate. (Devenpeck v. Alford, 543 U.S. 146 [2004]).

The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement - FindLaw

the thing isn't that you're a asshole, but that you are a arrogant asshole who has no clue what you're talking about. You're link has nothing to do with the search warrant issued in this case. Do you even have a link to the actual warrant?

And btw fucktard chump for trump, I didn't vote for Hillary,

I doubt the actual link would be available.

But trump's lawyers made this statement:

"Dowd said that among the documents obtained by FBI agents were "privileged and confidential materials prepared for Mr. Manafort by his counsel to aid him in his cooperation with the Congressional committees," according to Fox News.

"These failures by Special Counsel to exhaust less intrusive methods is a fatal flaw in the warrant process and would call for a Motion to Suppress the fruits of the search," he wrote."

Dude, you don't have to put a code section in a search warrant or anything else beyond an indictment. As UnoriginalTree's link actually pointed out, a warrant has to clearly specify what is suspected to be there to be seized and how that is relevant to a suspected criminal violation. However, Mueller is actually tasked to investigate what contacts Russia had with the Trump campaign, and that need not be a criminal investigation of Trump, although at this point I think we all know Mueller is looking into whether actual laws were broken.

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Apparently they had probable cause.

How is that apparent?

 

[bripat9643]

AGAIN WHAT CRIMINAL OFFENSE DID MUELLER LIST IN HIS PETITION TO A SO CALLED NEUTRAL JUDGE FOR A WARRANT TO SUPPORT A RAID BASED UPON "PROBABLE CAUSE"?

BITE ME LEFTIES!
And guess what SCUM.....A Petition for a GRAND JURY REQUIRES EVEN MORE INFORMATION AND PROOF THAN A WARRANT.
WHERE IS THE PETITION? There is no LEGAL GRAND JURY IMPANELED! & THE WARRANT ISSUED FOR A SPLASHY RAID, IS INVALID.

Had they found something, Mueller & Comey would have leaked the RAID and what they found like a menstruating bitch on her period to THE MEDIA!

SO Y'all can fuck off, and decrease the surplus population!

The FBI pulled this same stunt when the conducted the Waco raid. It's nothing new for them.

It's a Republican-created agency (Herbert Hoover) that was directed by a Republican (James Comey) before a Republican (Christopher Wray) was appointed recently to take his place.
Still not happy, bubby? Oh poor little thing. You're so fucked up.

Still waiting for him to point out the Dem in this Republican investigation.

All the people working for Mewler are Dims, you witless baboon.

 

[IM2]

the thing isn't that you're a asshole, but that you are a arrogant asshole who has no clue what you're talking about. You're link has nothing to do with the search warrant issued in this case. Do you even have a link to the actual warrant?

And btw fucktard chump for trump, I didn't vote for Hillary,

I doubt the actual link would be available.

But trump's lawyers made this statement:

"Dowd said that among the documents obtained by FBI agents were "privileged and confidential materials prepared for Mr. Manafort by his counsel to aid him in his cooperation with the Congressional committees," according to Fox News.

"These failures by Special Counsel to exhaust less intrusive methods is a fatal flaw in the warrant process and would call for a Motion to Suppress the fruits of the search," he wrote."

Dude, you don't have to put a code section in a search warrant or anything else beyond an indictment. As UnoriginalTree's link actually pointed out, a warrant has to clearly specify what is suspected to be there to be seized and how that is relevant to a suspected criminal violation. However, Mueller is actually tasked to investigate what contacts Russia had with the Trump campaign, and that need not be a criminal investigation of Trump, although at this point I think we all know Mueller is looking into whether actual laws were broken.

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Apparently they had probable cause.

How is that apparent?

He had to go to a judge with information which made the case for probable cause to get the warrant. That's how.

 

[The Original Tree]

I'd like to say that I'd love some Leftist Icon to be the Victim of a miscarriage of justice. A witch hunt, violation of Client Attorney Privilege, an Illegal Search and seizure and accusations with no evidence and no identifiable crime named.

That would teach them a lesson that they'd never forget!!! And damn would they deserve it!

But that would mean we lost America and both Conservatives and Liberals will have lost their freedoms .

Where do you get this notion that Mueller has some duty to specify what sections of the US code were possibly violated before he concludes his investigation? Links please.

I realize to an American Hating Liberal the 2nd and 4th Amendments are annoyances, but they protect scum like Hillary Clinton too.

In other words, The Warrant to Raid Manafort's Private Residence is INVALID and Constitutes ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE.
Manafort already agreed to cooperate and hand over the documents the FBI wanted. There was no reasonable reason to believe he would destroy any of the documents, unlike Hillary Clinton who deleted 33,000 documents that were under TWO COURT ORDERED Preservation Orders.


The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement


Once the Fourth Amendment applies to a particular search or seizure, the next question is under what circumstances is a warrant required. The Supreme Court has ruled that the Constitution expresses a preference for searches, seizures, and arrests conducted pursuant to a lawfully executed warrant (see Mincey v. Arizona, 437 U.S. 385 [1978]).

A warrant is a written order signed by a court authorizing a law-enforcement officer to conduct a search, seizure, or arrest. Searches, seizures, and arrests performed without a valid warrant are deemed presumptively invalid, and any evidence seized without a warrant will be suppressed unless a court finds that the search was reasonable under the circumstances.

Requirements for a Valid Search Warrant

An application for a warrant must be supported by a sworn, detailed statement made by a law enforcement officer appearing before a neutral judge or magistrate. The Supreme Court has said that probable cause exists when the facts and circumstances within the police officer's knowledge provide a reasonably trustworthy basis for a man of reasonable caution to believe that a criminal offense has been committed or is about to take place (see Carroll v. United States, 267 U.S. 132 [1925]).

How to Establish Probable Cause

Probable cause can be established by out-of-court statements made by reliable police informants, even though those statements cannot be tested by the magistrate. However, probable cause will not lie where the only evidence of criminal activity is an officer's affirmation of suspicion or belief (see Aguilar v. Texas, 378 U.S. 108 [1964]). On the other hand, an officer's subjective reason for making an arrest does not need to be the same criminal offense for which the facts indicate. (Devenpeck v. Alford, 543 U.S. 146 [2004]).

The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement - FindLaw

the thing isn't that you're a asshole, but that you are a arrogant asshole who has no clue what you're talking about. You're link has nothing to do with the search warrant issued in this case. Do you even have a link to the actual warrant?

And btw fucktard chump for trump, I didn't vote for Hillary,

I doubt the actual link would be available.

But trump's lawyers made this statement:

"Dowd said that among the documents obtained by FBI agents were "privileged and confidential materials prepared for Mr. Manafort by his counsel to aid him in his cooperation with the Congressional committees," according to Fox News.

"These failures by Special Counsel to exhaust less intrusive methods is a fatal flaw in the warrant process and would call for a Motion to Suppress the fruits of the search," he wrote."

Dude, you don't have to put a code section in a search warrant or anything else beyond an indictment. As UnoriginalTree's link actually pointed out, a warrant has to clearly specify what is suspected to be there to be seized and how that is relevant to a suspected criminal violation. However, Mueller is actually tasked to investigate what contacts Russia had with the Trump campaign, and that need not be a criminal investigation of Trump, although at this point I think we all know Mueller is looking into whether actual laws were broken.

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

 

[bripat9643]

The Left doesn't care about a State Department Coverup and illegal gun running operation for terrorists and paid terrorists for assassinations and coups who then turned on their backers and murdered people in Benghazi due to Clinton's reckless and careless and criminal handling of classified information!

But they care about entirely legal meetings with Ambassadors?

One needs Probable Cause that a crime was committed or might be committed and must come from specific facts or circumstances and not a hunch or suspicion (such as profiling). How many warrants have you written and signed under oath?

and so what is the probable crime? I'm still waiting.

A meeting on or about June 6, 2016 with Russian nationals at the Trump Tower, which the parties connected by blood or business with The President lied about. That's what is called Probable Cause.

Lying by omission on national security documents is a crime, and gives probable cause to look further into the actions of the actor who lied.

That's not a crime, moron. It's no more criminal than me having dinner with my in-laws. You idiots have been told that over and over and over, but you keep treating it as if it's a crime. What that shows is that you don't give a crap about truth or the facts. You have all earned the sobriquet "douche bag."

The reality here is that YOU are the one refusing to accept the facts. Democrats have lost elections before, so why in the hell do we choose this one to make some shit up about? Why didn't we do this when Bush was given the election by the supreme court? This is just how dumb the shit you say is. .

There's a first time for everything. Dim outrages and assaults on the Democratic process have become more and more severe until we have reached this point. The 2000 election was almost as bad.

 

[IM2]

AGAIN WHAT CRIMINAL OFFENSE DID MUELLER LIST IN HIS PETITION TO A SO CALLED NEUTRAL JUDGE FOR A WARRANT TO SUPPORT A RAID BASED UPON "PROBABLE CAUSE"?

BITE ME LEFTIES!
And guess what SCUM.....A Petition for a GRAND JURY REQUIRES EVEN MORE INFORMATION AND PROOF THAN A WARRANT.
WHERE IS THE PETITION? There is no LEGAL GRAND JURY IMPANELED! & THE WARRANT ISSUED FOR A SPLASHY RAID, IS INVALID.

Had they found something, Mueller & Comey would have leaked the RAID and what they found like a menstruating bitch on her period to THE MEDIA!

SO Y'all can fuck off, and decrease the surplus population!

The FBI pulled this same stunt when the conducted the Waco raid. It's nothing new for them.

It's a Republican-created agency (Herbert Hoover) that was directed by a Republican (James Comey) before a Republican (Christopher Wray) was appointed recently to take his place.
Still not happy, bubby? Oh poor little thing. You're so fucked up.

Still waiting for him to point out the Dem in this Republican investigation.

All the people working for Mewler are Dims, you witless baboon.

I doubt that. Mueller is a republican. You need to stop believing Trumps lies.

 

[Borillar]

AGAIN WHAT CRIMINAL OFFENSE DID MUELLER LIST IN HIS PETITION TO A SO CALLED NEUTRAL JUDGE FOR A WARRANT TO SUPPORT A RAID BASED UPON "PROBABLE CAUSE"?

BITE ME LEFTIES!
And guess what SCUM.....A Petition for a GRAND JURY REQUIRES EVEN MORE INFORMATION AND PROOF THAN A WARRANT.
WHERE IS THE PETITION? There is no LEGAL GRAND JURY IMPANELED! & THE WARRANT ISSUED FOR A SPLASHY RAID, IS INVALID.

Had they found something, Mueller & Comey would have leaked the RAID and what they found like a menstruating bitch on her period to THE MEDIA!

SO Y'all can fuck off, and decrease the surplus population!

The FBI pulled this same stunt when the conducted the Waco raid. It's nothing new for them.

It's a Republican-created agency (Herbert Hoover) that was directed by a Republican (James Comey) before a Republican (Christopher Wray) was appointed recently to take his place.
Still not happy, bubby? Oh poor little thing. You're so fucked up.

Still waiting for him to point out the Dem in this Republican investigation.

All the people working for Mewler are Dims, you witless baboon.

Link? Proof of party affiliation? Should Mueller (R) hire Ivanka to even things out?

 

[bripat9643]

I doubt the actual link would be available.

But trump's lawyers made this statement:

"Dowd said that among the documents obtained by FBI agents were "privileged and confidential materials prepared for Mr. Manafort by his counsel to aid him in his cooperation with the Congressional committees," according to Fox News.

"These failures by Special Counsel to exhaust less intrusive methods is a fatal flaw in the warrant process and would call for a Motion to Suppress the fruits of the search," he wrote."

Dude, you don't have to put a code section in a search warrant or anything else beyond an indictment. As UnoriginalTree's link actually pointed out, a warrant has to clearly specify what is suspected to be there to be seized and how that is relevant to a suspected criminal violation. However, Mueller is actually tasked to investigate what contacts Russia had with the Trump campaign, and that need not be a criminal investigation of Trump, although at this point I think we all know Mueller is looking into whether actual laws were broken.

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Apparently they had probable cause.

How is that apparent?

He had to go to a judge with information which made the case for probable cause to get the warrant. That's how.

That doesn't mean he had such information. Your assumption that a leftwing judge wouldn't approve a worthless warrant doesn't pass the laugh test.

 

[bripat9643]

AGAIN WHAT CRIMINAL OFFENSE DID MUELLER LIST IN HIS PETITION TO A SO CALLED NEUTRAL JUDGE FOR A WARRANT TO SUPPORT A RAID BASED UPON "PROBABLE CAUSE"?

BITE ME LEFTIES!
And guess what SCUM.....A Petition for a GRAND JURY REQUIRES EVEN MORE INFORMATION AND PROOF THAN A WARRANT.
WHERE IS THE PETITION? There is no LEGAL GRAND JURY IMPANELED! & THE WARRANT ISSUED FOR A SPLASHY RAID, IS INVALID.

Had they found something, Mueller & Comey would have leaked the RAID and what they found like a menstruating bitch on her period to THE MEDIA!

SO Y'all can fuck off, and decrease the surplus population!

The FBI pulled this same stunt when the conducted the Waco raid. It's nothing new for them.

It's a Republican-created agency (Herbert Hoover) that was directed by a Republican (James Comey) before a Republican (Christopher Wray) was appointed recently to take his place.
Still not happy, bubby? Oh poor little thing. You're so fucked up.

Still waiting for him to point out the Dem in this Republican investigation.

All the people working for Mewler are Dims, you witless baboon.

I doubt that. Mueller is a republican. You need to stop believing Trumps lies.

That's just a plain fact, moron, and Mewler changed his registration to "independent."