My proposal for dividing the country

[kaz]

Country 1: Southern California, Las Vegas, the California coast up through the Bay Area, Hawaii, western Oregon and western Washington

Country 2: New England, New York City, Long Island, Westchester, New Jersey, Philadelphia and far east Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, DC, Northern Virginia, Detroit and Chicago

Country 3: The rest from Country 1 to Country 2 and Alaska

We divide the debt by population

We distribute military assets by population

Each of the three new Countries have a Constitutional convention which decides whether to adapt, modify or replace the Constitution.

There is a one year transition with no internal borders meaning you can move wherever you want on the division date. After that it's fine, you just need to follow the immigration laws of the country you are moving to.

And we go from there!

 

[JakeStarkey]

ok

 

[jwoodie]

Demwits talk about secession but it's all BS. They can't stand to let States make their own decisions.

 

[kwc57]

Country 1: Southern California, Las Vegas, the California coast up through the Bay Area, Hawaii, western Oregon and western Washington

Country 2: New England, New York City, Long Island, Westchester, New Jersey, Philadelphia and far east Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, DC, Northern Virginia, Detroit and Chicago

Country 3: The rest from Country 1 to Country 2 and Alaska

We divide the debt by population

We distribute military assets by population

Each of the three new Countries have a Constitutional convention which decides whether to adapt, modify or replace the Constitution.

There is a one year transition with no internal borders meaning you can move wherever you want on the division date. After that it's fine, you just need to follow the immigration laws of the country you are moving to.

And we go from there!

Country 1 and 2 will have no need for a constitution. In their enlightenment and tolerance, they will willingly submit to sharia law.

 

[Coyote]

Demwits talk about secession but it's all BS. They can't stand to let States make their own decisions.

Remember...the Pubwits talked about it too - and Texas never did succeed. No one is going to succeed, it's just a meaningless feel good exercise.

 

[Coyote]

Country 1: Southern California, Las Vegas, the California coast up through the Bay Area, Hawaii, western Oregon and western Washington

Country 2: New England, New York City, Long Island, Westchester, New Jersey, Philadelphia and far east Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, DC, Northern Virginia, Detroit and Chicago

Country 3: The rest from Country 1 to Country 2 and Alaska

We divide the debt by population

We distribute military assets by population

Each of the three new Countries have a Constitutional convention which decides whether to adapt, modify or replace the Constitution.

There is a one year transition with no internal borders meaning you can move wherever you want on the division date. After that it's fine, you just need to follow the immigration laws of the country you are moving to.

And we go from there!

Country 1 and 2 will have no need for a constitution. In their enlightenment and tolerance, they will willingly submit to sharia law.

We need a special semi-autonomous territory for Tards who believe any Americans want sharia law. I suggest we carve that out of a bit of the midwest. Perhaps build a wall around it (but make them pay for it). We can open the gates once a year and let them out for 24 hours.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Country 1: Southern California, Las Vegas, the California coast up through the Bay Area, Hawaii, western Oregon and western Washington

Country 2: New England, New York City, Long Island, Westchester, New Jersey, Philadelphia and far east Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, DC, Northern Virginia, Detroit and Chicago

Country 3: The rest from Country 1 to Country 2 and Alaska

We divide the debt by population

We distribute military assets by population

Each of the three new Countries have a Constitutional convention which decides whether to adapt, modify or replace the Constitution.

There is a one year transition with no internal borders meaning you can move wherever you want on the division date. After that it's fine, you just need to follow the immigration laws of the country you are moving to.

And we go from there!

After all that division, Country 1 & Country 2 can sign a compact and invade and take over Country 3 and construct a beautiful TALL wallaround the former State of Texas. Then the hardcore assholes who wanted this division in the first place can be deported to Siberian Russia where they wanted to be anyway with their fearless leader, T-rump!

You're not the only one who can come up with implausible fantasies!

 

[kaz]

Demwits talk about secession but it's all BS. They can't stand to let States make their own decisions.

Remember...the Pubwits talked about it too - and Texas never did succeed. No one is going to succeed, it's just a meaningless feel good exercise.

Like ending Obamacare, building a wall and enforcing our borders and electing a President who isn't a DC establishment hack, and those are all happening. Right now I agree with you, but the best way to ensure nothing ever goes anywhere is to stop talking about it. We need to keep the dream alive. Politics is just hate and division and it's getting worse. The right barely follow the Constitution and the left don't at all. We really should explore this option

 

[Trump.Stamped]

Who gets to name them? I want to name the middle of the country "Killterroristsikstan" we have lots of bombs and shit.

 

[Coyote]

Demwits talk about secession but it's all BS. They can't stand to let States make their own decisions.

Remember...the Pubwits talked about it too - and Texas never did succeed. No one is going to succeed, it's just a meaningless feel good exercise.

Like ending Obamacare, building a wall and enforcing our borders and electing a President who isn't a DC establishment hack, and those are all happening. Right now I agree with you, but the best way to ensure nothing ever goes anywhere is to stop talking about it. We need to keep the dream alive. Politics is just hate and division and it's getting worse. The right barely follow the Constitution and the left don't at all. We really should explore this option

It's an interesting idea...but I think I'd rather put the energy into promoting more political parties and weakening the hold the two big ones have on everything.

 

[kaz]

Country 1: Southern California, Las Vegas, the California coast up through the Bay Area, Hawaii, western Oregon and western Washington

Country 2: New England, New York City, Long Island, Westchester, New Jersey, Philadelphia and far east Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, DC, Northern Virginia, Detroit and Chicago

Country 3: The rest from Country 1 to Country 2 and Alaska

We divide the debt by population

We distribute military assets by population

Each of the three new Countries have a Constitutional convention which decides whether to adapt, modify or replace the Constitution.

There is a one year transition with no internal borders meaning you can move wherever you want on the division date. After that it's fine, you just need to follow the immigration laws of the country you are moving to.

And we go from there!

Country 1 and 2 will have no need for a constitution. In their enlightenment and tolerance, they will willingly submit to sharia law.

We need a special semi-autonomous territory for Tards who believe any Americans want sharia law. I suggest we carve that out of a bit of the midwest. Perhaps build a wall around it (but make them pay for it). We can open the gates once a year and let them out for 24 hours.

Here's the flaw in your argument. No, liberals will not say you want Sharia Law. The question like Communism, tax rates and other issues is ... when would you stop before we got there. The answer is never

 

[kaz]

Country 1: Southern California, Las Vegas, the California coast up through the Bay Area, Hawaii, western Oregon and western Washington

Country 2: New England, New York City, Long Island, Westchester, New Jersey, Philadelphia and far east Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, DC, Northern Virginia, Detroit and Chicago

Country 3: The rest from Country 1 to Country 2 and Alaska

We divide the debt by population

We distribute military assets by population

Each of the three new Countries have a Constitutional convention which decides whether to adapt, modify or replace the Constitution.

There is a one year transition with no internal borders meaning you can move wherever you want on the division date. After that it's fine, you just need to follow the immigration laws of the country you are moving to.

And we go from there!

After all that division, Country 1 & Country 2 can sign a compact and invade and take over Country 3 and construct a beautiful TALL wallaround the former State of Texas. Then the hardcore assholes who wanted this division in the first place can be deported to Siberian Russia where they wanted to be anyway with their fearless leader, T-rump!

You're not the only one who can come up with implausible fantasies!

That sounded good to you? Seriously?

 

[kaz]

Demwits talk about secession but it's all BS. They can't stand to let States make their own decisions.

Remember...the Pubwits talked about it too - and Texas never did succeed. No one is going to succeed, it's just a meaningless feel good exercise.

Like ending Obamacare, building a wall and enforcing our borders and electing a President who isn't a DC establishment hack, and those are all happening. Right now I agree with you, but the best way to ensure nothing ever goes anywhere is to stop talking about it. We need to keep the dream alive. Politics is just hate and division and it's getting worse. The right barely follow the Constitution and the left don't at all. We really should explore this option

It's an interesting idea...but I think I'd rather put the energy into promoting more political parties and weakening the hold the two big ones have on everything.

Your completely selling out to one of the two seems to be an odd way of accomplishing that

 

[Coyote]

Here's an intriguing one: This map shows the US really has 11 separate 'nations' with entirely different cultures

 

[Coyote]

Demwits talk about secession but it's all BS. They can't stand to let States make their own decisions.

Remember...the Pubwits talked about it too - and Texas never did succeed. No one is going to succeed, it's just a meaningless feel good exercise.

Like ending Obamacare, building a wall and enforcing our borders and electing a President who isn't a DC establishment hack, and those are all happening. Right now I agree with you, but the best way to ensure nothing ever goes anywhere is to stop talking about it. We need to keep the dream alive. Politics is just hate and division and it's getting worse. The right barely follow the Constitution and the left don't at all. We really should explore this option

It's an interesting idea...but I think I'd rather put the energy into promoting more political parties and weakening the hold the two big ones have on everything.

Your completely selling out to one of the two seems to be an odd way of accomplishing that

It's the only viably liberal choice in the Presidential election. Jill Stein sucks. I voted Mountain Party for my state governer.

I don't believe in not voting or voting for someone who opposes what I believe in.

 

[kaz]

Who gets to name them? I want to name the middle of the country "Killterroristsikstan" we have lots of bombs and shit.

An interesting question. What about:

Country 1: Mexico
Country 2: France
Country 3: SeeYaSocialists

 

[Coyote]

Country 1: Southern California, Las Vegas, the California coast up through the Bay Area, Hawaii, western Oregon and western Washington

Country 2: New England, New York City, Long Island, Westchester, New Jersey, Philadelphia and far east Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, DC, Northern Virginia, Detroit and Chicago

Country 3: The rest from Country 1 to Country 2 and Alaska

We divide the debt by population

We distribute military assets by population

Each of the three new Countries have a Constitutional convention which decides whether to adapt, modify or replace the Constitution.

There is a one year transition with no internal borders meaning you can move wherever you want on the division date. After that it's fine, you just need to follow the immigration laws of the country you are moving to.

And we go from there!

Country 1 and 2 will have no need for a constitution. In their enlightenment and tolerance, they will willingly submit to sharia law.

We need a special semi-autonomous territory for Tards who believe any Americans want sharia law. I suggest we carve that out of a bit of the midwest. Perhaps build a wall around it (but make them pay for it). We can open the gates once a year and let them out for 24 hours.

Here's the flaw in your argument. No, liberals will not say you want Sharia Law. The question like Communism, tax rates and other issues is ... when would you stop before we got there. The answer is never

I disagree, and here is why. I support the right of everyone to worship in what ever faith they choose without coercion. I also support the constitution we have which guarantees it, but keeps it separate from governance. I support those checks and balances and oppose any religious involvement in our laws or government.

 

[kaz]

Here's an intriguing one: This map shows the US really has 11 separate 'nations' with entirely different cultures

I've lived in five of those areas. When was this drawn? I'd say there is a basis for it but it's pretty dated

 

[Coyote]

Here's an intriguing one: This map shows the US really has 11 separate 'nations' with entirely different cultures

I've lived in five of those areas. When was this drawn? I'd say there is a basis for it but it's pretty dated

It's from a book in 2012 I think? The article explains why he broke it down the way he did.

 

[kaz]

Demwits talk about secession but it's all BS. They can't stand to let States make their own decisions.

Remember...the Pubwits talked about it too - and Texas never did succeed. No one is going to succeed, it's just a meaningless feel good exercise.

Like ending Obamacare, building a wall and enforcing our borders and electing a President who isn't a DC establishment hack, and those are all happening. Right now I agree with you, but the best way to ensure nothing ever goes anywhere is to stop talking about it. We need to keep the dream alive. Politics is just hate and division and it's getting worse. The right barely follow the Constitution and the left don't at all. We really should explore this option

It's an interesting idea...but I think I'd rather put the energy into promoting more political parties and weakening the hold the two big ones have on everything.

Your completely selling out to one of the two seems to be an odd way of accomplishing that

It's the only viably liberal choice in the Presidential election. Jill Stein sucks. I voted Mountain Party for my state governer.

I don't believe in not voting or voting for someone who opposes what I believe in.

If Hillary supports what you believe in then you're an institutional Democrat which again contradicts what you said.

No one believes in what I believe in. I voted for Johnson because he said he believed in what I believed in and that made him the best option even though I didn't believe him.

You sure aren't undoing the two parties by voting for them