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Then she lied by falsely claiming membership of the Cherokee people.Process is straightforward. You show documented evidence your ancestor is listed in the Dawes rolls, which is a list of Cherokee tribe members from around 1900.Besides which --- Warren never applied for Cherokee membership anyway. She never made such a claim, yet the OP and his fellow travellers want to erect that as a strawman as well.
I happen to be Irish but I've never applied for Irish citizenship. They'd be two different things.
Then there are the census forms they'll inevitably bring up, noting ancestors self-reporting as "white" while ignoring the fact that in the genocidal era anyone who could "pass" for white did so as a matter of pure self-preservation.
Even with a DNA test, it isn't proof positive that anyone is Cherokee. It will only state, "Native American". Unlike yours and mine "Irish" the Irish show different in a DNA than any American Indian Tribe.
Warren never claimed to be on the Dawes Rolls. Not even close. Your argument is complete bullshit.
No Punky --- ****YOU**** just lied by claiming she claimed that.
Go ahead ---- just try to prove me wrong.
Moreover the Warren family heritage cites not just Cherokee but Lenape as well. We just mentioned that where lost-marbles-boi tried to tie her to Jeffrey Fucking Amherst.
Dumbass, I never claimed she claimed to be linked to the Dawes rolls. You're a joke liar defending a liar.Then she lied by falsely claiming membership of the Cherokee people.Process is straightforward. You show documented evidence your ancestor is listed in the Dawes rolls, which is a list of Cherokee tribe members from around 1900.Even with a DNA test, it isn't proof positive that anyone is Cherokee. It will only state, "Native American". Unlike yours and mine "Irish" the Irish show different in a DNA than any American Indian Tribe.
Warren never claimed to be on the Dawes Rolls. Not even close. Your argument is complete bullshit.
No Punky --- ****YOU**** just lied by claiming she claimed that.
Go ahead ---- just try to prove me wrong.
Moreover the Warren family heritage cites not just Cherokee but Lenape as well. We just mentioned that where lost-marbles-boi tried to tie her to Jeffrey Fucking Amherst.
Then she lied by falsely claiming membership of the Cherokee people.Process is straightforward. You show documented evidence your ancestor is listed in the Dawes rolls, which is a list of Cherokee tribe members from around 1900.
Warren never claimed to be on the Dawes Rolls. Not even close. Your argument is complete bullshit.
No Punky --- ****YOU**** just lied by claiming she claimed that.
Go ahead ---- just try to prove me wrong.
Moreover the Warren family heritage cites not just Cherokee but Lenape as well. We just mentioned that where lost-marbles-boi tried to tie her to Jeffrey Fucking Amherst.
One cannot prove a negative. It's not up to me to prove she said what you say she said, it's up to you to prove your own statement.
BTW, I am a Member of the millions of Western Americans with Cherokee Blood NOT on the roll.
Why are you sending these Weatherman replies to me? I haven't been making these points.
Dumbass, I never claimed she claimed to be linked to the Dawes rolls. You're a joke liar defending a liar.Then she lied by falsely claiming membership of the Cherokee people.Process is straightforward. You show documented evidence your ancestor is listed in the Dawes rolls, which is a list of Cherokee tribe members from around 1900.Even with a DNA test, it isn't proof positive that anyone is Cherokee. It will only state, "Native American". Unlike yours and mine "Irish" the Irish show different in a DNA than any American Indian Tribe.
Warren never claimed to be on the Dawes Rolls. Not even close. Your argument is complete bullshit.
No Punky --- ****YOU**** just lied by claiming she claimed that.
Go ahead ---- just try to prove me wrong.
Moreover the Warren family heritage cites not just Cherokee but Lenape as well. We just mentioned that where lost-marbles-boi tried to tie her to Jeffrey Fucking Amherst.
Then she lied by falsely claiming membership of the Cherokee people.
Then she lied by falsely claiming membership of the Cherokee people.Process is straightforward. You show documented evidence your ancestor is listed in the Dawes rolls, which is a list of Cherokee tribe members from around 1900.Even with a DNA test, it isn't proof positive that anyone is Cherokee. It will only state, "Native American". Unlike yours and mine "Irish" the Irish show different in a DNA than any American Indian Tribe.
Warren never claimed to be on the Dawes Rolls. Not even close. Your argument is complete bullshit.
No Punky --- ****YOU**** just lied by claiming she claimed that.
Go ahead ---- just try to prove me wrong.
Moreover the Warren family heritage cites not just Cherokee but Lenape as well. We just mentioned that where lost-marbles-boi tried to tie her to Jeffrey Fucking Amherst.
Her "family heritage" can say any damned thing it wants. It doesn't qualify as actual evidence of anything. Can we hearken back to the DNA study of descendants of Sally Hemings? Their "family heritage" had told them they were descendants of Thomas Jefferson, and it ended up debunked.
This will never go away for Pocahontas....her disgusting lies about being Native American and using that lie for personal and political gain is absolutely unconscionable....she is supposed to be a liberal who fights for the underclass, not exploit their victimhood for her own selfish reasons.
She should resign,
Elizabeth Warren’s Native American problem goes beyond politics - The Boston Globe
“The problem with Elizabeth Warren is she is not the average wannabe,” said David Cornsilk, a Cherokee historian and genealogist. “She is an academic. She has a higher level of aptitude to examine these issues. And a higher responsibility to examine them, and accept the research that is done, or to counter it with alternative research.”
Cornsilk described himself as a liberal who supports Warren’s agenda of attacking income inequality. “Warren could be an ally,” Cornsilk said. “But she will not be an ally that we will accept if she continues to claim Cherokee and Delaware heritage without proof.”
Cornsilk wants Warren to offer a full apology that acknowledges that she made claims without proof, that those claims have been damaging, and that she will work to repair that damage.
“It is a fundamental issue of who we are and who gets to decide that,” Cornsilk said.
I'd have to check, but I believe it's actually illegal to present yourself as an American Indian for profit without being an actual, registered member of a tribe. It happens all too often in the Southwest, with people trying to present their craftwork as "Native American" and being shut down because they're not tribe members, even when they actually DO have documented heritage.
She lied about having Native American ancestry.
You were asked ---- AGAIN --- exactly 78 posts ago for any evidence of that.
You ran away.
You FAILED.
Now here you are again, emptyhanded again and expecting different results. Are you retarded?
She benefited personally, politically and financially from that lie.
AGAIN --- where's the evidence? Where's the link? See you in 78 more posts when you come slithering back hoping everybody forgot about this one.
Fucking demented dickhead.
Like I said, it is painfully obvious that you suck far too much Elizabeth Warren ass… LOLShe lied about having Native American ancestry.
You were asked ---- AGAIN --- exactly 78 posts ago for any evidence of that.
You ran away.
You FAILED.
Now here you are again, emptyhanded again and expecting different results. Are you retarded?
She benefited personally, politically and financially from that lie.
AGAIN --- where's the evidence? Where's the link? See you in 78 more posts when you come slithering back hoping everybody forgot about this one.
Fucking demented dickhead.
This will never go away for Pocahontas....her disgusting lies about being Native American and using that lie for personal and political gain is absolutely unconscionable....she is supposed to be a liberal who fights for the underclass, not exploit their victimhood for her own selfish reasons.
She should resign,
Elizabeth Warren’s Native American problem goes beyond politics - The Boston Globe
“The problem with Elizabeth Warren is she is not the average wannabe,” said David Cornsilk, a Cherokee historian and genealogist. “She is an academic. She has a higher level of aptitude to examine these issues. And a higher responsibility to examine them, and accept the research that is done, or to counter it with alternative research.”
Cornsilk described himself as a liberal who supports Warren’s agenda of attacking income inequality. “Warren could be an ally,” Cornsilk said. “But she will not be an ally that we will accept if she continues to claim Cherokee and Delaware heritage without proof.”
Cornsilk wants Warren to offer a full apology that acknowledges that she made claims without proof, that those claims have been damaging, and that she will work to repair that damage.
“It is a fundamental issue of who we are and who gets to decide that,” Cornsilk said.
I'd have to check, but I believe it's actually illegal to present yourself as an American Indian for profit without being an actual, registered member of a tribe. It happens all too often in the Southwest, with people trying to present their craftwork as "Native American" and being shut down because they're not tribe members, even when they actually DO have documented heritage.
The question is moot for this purpose, since Warren never did so present herself. These historical revisionists have been asked 156 times for any evidence and have yet to find any.
Dumbass, I never claimed she claimed to be linked to the Dawes rolls. You're a joke liar defending a liar.Then she lied by falsely claiming membership of the Cherokee people.Process is straightforward. You show documented evidence your ancestor is listed in the Dawes rolls, which is a list of Cherokee tribe members from around 1900.
Warren never claimed to be on the Dawes Rolls. Not even close. Your argument is complete bullshit.
No Punky --- ****YOU**** just lied by claiming she claimed that.
Go ahead ---- just try to prove me wrong.
Moreover the Warren family heritage cites not just Cherokee but Lenape as well. We just mentioned that where lost-marbles-boi tried to tie her to Jeffrey Fucking Amherst.
OH YES YOU DID fucking liar. Roll that tape.
Then she lied by falsely claiming membership of the Cherokee people.
Think you can make that out, or should we have your nurse read it to you?
AGAIN-- I demanded to know when, where, how she ever made that claim.
And you had NOTHING. Because there is NOTHING. And now you're running away from your own post.
Dishonest HACK.
This will never go away for Pocahontas....her disgusting lies about being Native American and using that lie for personal and political gain is absolutely unconscionable....she is supposed to be a liberal who fights for the underclass, not exploit their victimhood for her own selfish reasons.
She should resign,
Elizabeth Warren’s Native American problem goes beyond politics - The Boston Globe
“The problem with Elizabeth Warren is she is not the average wannabe,” said David Cornsilk, a Cherokee historian and genealogist. “She is an academic. She has a higher level of aptitude to examine these issues. And a higher responsibility to examine them, and accept the research that is done, or to counter it with alternative research.”
Cornsilk described himself as a liberal who supports Warren’s agenda of attacking income inequality. “Warren could be an ally,” Cornsilk said. “But she will not be an ally that we will accept if she continues to claim Cherokee and Delaware heritage without proof.”
Cornsilk wants Warren to offer a full apology that acknowledges that she made claims without proof, that those claims have been damaging, and that she will work to repair that damage.
“It is a fundamental issue of who we are and who gets to decide that,” Cornsilk said.
I'd have to check, but I believe it's actually illegal to present yourself as an American Indian for profit without being an actual, registered member of a tribe. It happens all too often in the Southwest, with people trying to present their craftwork as "Native American" and being shut down because they're not tribe members, even when they actually DO have documented heritage.
The question is moot for this purpose, since Warren never did so present herself. These historical revisionists have been asked 156 times for any evidence and have yet to find any.
The Russian connection…This will never go away for Pocahontas....her disgusting lies about being Native American and using that lie for personal and political gain is absolutely unconscionable....she is supposed to be a liberal who fights for the underclass, not exploit their victimhood for her own selfish reasons.
She should resign,
Elizabeth Warren’s Native American problem goes beyond politics - The Boston Globe
“The problem with Elizabeth Warren is she is not the average wannabe,” said David Cornsilk, a Cherokee historian and genealogist. “She is an academic. She has a higher level of aptitude to examine these issues. And a higher responsibility to examine them, and accept the research that is done, or to counter it with alternative research.”
Cornsilk described himself as a liberal who supports Warren’s agenda of attacking income inequality. “Warren could be an ally,” Cornsilk said. “But she will not be an ally that we will accept if she continues to claim Cherokee and Delaware heritage without proof.”
Cornsilk wants Warren to offer a full apology that acknowledges that she made claims without proof, that those claims have been damaging, and that she will work to repair that damage.
“It is a fundamental issue of who we are and who gets to decide that,” Cornsilk said.
I'd have to check, but I believe it's actually illegal to present yourself as an American Indian for profit without being an actual, registered member of a tribe. It happens all too often in the Southwest, with people trying to present their craftwork as "Native American" and being shut down because they're not tribe members, even when they actually DO have documented heritage.
The question is moot for this purpose, since Warren never did so present herself. These historical revisionists have been asked 156 times for any evidence and have yet to find any.
I am just wondering whom is paying to post this nonsense. Is it the Republican Party or the Putin Party.
She lied about having Native American ancestry.
You were asked ---- AGAIN --- exactly 78 posts ago for any evidence of that.
You ran away.
You FAILED.
Now here you are again, emptyhanded again and expecting different results. Are you retarded?
She benefited personally, politically and financially from that lie.
AGAIN --- where's the evidence? Where's the link? See you in 78 more posts when you come slithering back hoping everybody forgot about this one.
Fucking demented dickhead.
Even the Washington post refused to touch it now that says something...
Lol
Here's the deal with Elizabeth Warren's Native American heritage - CNNPolitics
The Washington Post's "Fact Checker" page has actually decided against judging the issue at all, offering "no rating" and, in a piece Tuesday, suggesting "readers to look into it on their own and decide whether Trump's attacks over Warren's background have merit."
A simple DNA test would settle the issue. .....
She’s a career politician corrupt to the core, hypocrisy is her life’s blood... factShe lied about having Native American ancestry.
You were asked ---- AGAIN --- exactly 78 posts ago for any evidence of that.
You ran away.
You FAILED.
Now here you are again, emptyhanded again and expecting different results. Are you retarded?
She benefited personally, politically and financially from that lie.
AGAIN --- where's the evidence? Where's the link? See you in 78 more posts when you come slithering back hoping everybody forgot about this one.
Fucking demented dickhead.
Even the Washington post refused to touch it now that says something...
Lol
Here's the deal with Elizabeth Warren's Native American heritage - CNNPolitics
The Washington Post's "Fact Checker" page has actually decided against judging the issue at all, offering "no rating" and, in a piece Tuesday, suggesting "readers to look into it on their own and decide whether Trump's attacks over Warren's background have merit."
Once AGAIN yet another lying mendacious false made-up fake fictitious misrepresentation. And I didn't even need to click in to know what it was although I did just to make sure.
--- What WaPo decided against judging was the question of whether Warren has Native American blood or not. Nobody can answer that definitively and no one has ever claimed to.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE HERE IS IT.
No Mushmouth, the issue here is right up there in the title of this thread where it still sits -- the allegation that "she lied". That is an act of commission. That's a direct action requiring BOTH (a) knowledge of the absence of such ancestry AND (b) then claiming it anyway.
And EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU has completely FAILED to make that case. In this thread and in every previous one, without exception.
DON'T YOU GET THAT?
Although it would expose a fake Pocahontas… LOLA simple DNA test would settle the issue. .....
NO IT WOULD NOT.
DNA tests do not measure any kind of "lying".
She lied about having Native American ancestry.
You were asked ---- AGAIN --- exactly 78 posts ago for any evidence of that.
You ran away.
You FAILED.
Now here you are again, emptyhanded again and expecting different results. Are you retarded?
She benefited personally, politically and financially from that lie.
AGAIN --- where's the evidence? Where's the link? See you in 78 more posts when you come slithering back hoping everybody forgot about this one.
Fucking demented dickhead.
Even the Washington post refused to touch it now that says something...
Lol
Here's the deal with Elizabeth Warren's Native American heritage - CNNPolitics
The Washington Post's "Fact Checker" page has actually decided against judging the issue at all, offering "no rating" and, in a piece Tuesday, suggesting "readers to look into it on their own and decide whether Trump's attacks over Warren's background have merit."
Once AGAIN yet another lying mendacious false made-up fake fictitious misrepresentation. And I didn't even need to click in to know what it was although I did just to make sure.
--- What WaPo decided against judging was the question of whether Warren has Native American blood or not. Nobody can answer that definitively and no one has ever claimed to.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE HERE IS IT.
No Mushmouth, the issue here is right up there in the title of this thread where it still sits -- the allegation that "she lied". That is an act of commission. That's a direct action requiring BOTH (a) knowledge of the absence of such ancestry AND (b) then claiming it anyway.
And EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU has completely FAILED to make that case. In this thread and in every previous one, without exception.
DON'T YOU GET THAT?
Then she lied by falsely claiming membership of the Cherokee people.Process is straightforward. You show documented evidence your ancestor is listed in the Dawes rolls, which is a list of Cherokee tribe members from around 1900.Even with a DNA test, it isn't proof positive that anyone is Cherokee. It will only state, "Native American". Unlike yours and mine "Irish" the Irish show different in a DNA than any American Indian Tribe.
Warren never claimed to be on the Dawes Rolls. Not even close. Your argument is complete bullshit.
No Punky --- ****YOU**** just lied by claiming she claimed that.
Go ahead ---- just try to prove me wrong.
Moreover the Warren family heritage cites not just Cherokee but Lenape as well. We just mentioned that where lost-marbles-boi tried to tie her to Jeffrey Fucking Amherst.
Her "family heritage" can say any damned thing it wants. It doesn't qualify as actual evidence of anything. Can we hearken back to the DNA study of descendants of Sally Hemings? Their "family heritage" had told them they were descendants of Thomas Jefferson, and it ended up debunked.
