Nazis were Catholic?

[Baron]

Catholic Church is a dead Church

As Mark Twain might say, "The reports of It's death are greatly exaggerated."

You are wrong:

 

[Meriweather]

You are wrong:

Yet I am Catholic and I am still walking around, and the Church is daily serving the community.

 

[ding]

Catholic Church is a dead Church

As Mark Twain might say, "The reports of It's death are greatly exaggerated."

You are wrong:

The world wide numbers say otherwise.

 

[ding]

the the story of Genesis itself refutes your argument..

Bar Ilan University’s Professor Nathan Aviezer disagrees with you.

Could New Scientific Discovery Support Creation?

 

[ding]

So what if science points to a beginning.

This is you starting to realize the futility of trying to refute my argument.

lol... the the story of Genesis itself refutes your argument..


Just so you know, I used to feel bad for someone caught in such an embarrassing position as the one you find yourself in.

Not anymore. Now I find it entertaining..knowing you deserve it.

Does that make me a bad person?

No one is all bad or all good.

Thats nonsense. That would make the teachings of Jesus, Moses, all the prophets, and the entire law a lie.

People who have made evil a conscious and deliberate choice are all bad. There is no trace of evil in me.

I'm just not completely sure whether you are still suffering from the traumatic effects of child abuse or if you have turned completely and became just like your abusers....

A deranged serial killer, always on the prowl for the gullible.

I don’t see how it would because we are told in Genesis that everything God created is good.

 

[ding]

Ding presents the scientific evidence for a beginning for Creation.

We know from science that space and time had a beginning. Specifically, red shift, cosmic background radiation, Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations, quantum mechanics, the First Law of Thermodynamics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics and Inflation Theory.

Red shift, cosmic background radiation and Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations tells us that all matter and energy in the universe once occupied the space of 1 billionth of 1 trillionth the size of an atom and then began to expand and cool. The the First Law of Thermodynamics (i.e. conservation of energy) tells us that since that time matter and energy has only changed form. Which means that the atoms in our bodies were created from nothing when space and and time were created from nothing.

Red shift, cosmic background radiation, Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations and the Second Law of Thermodynamics tells us that space and time did have a beginning. If the universe is expanding then it must have a beginning. If you follow it backwards in time, then any object must come to a boundary of space time. You cannot continue that history indefinitely. This is still true even if a universe has periods of contraction. It still has to have a beginning if expansion over weights the contraction. Physicists have been uncomfortable with the idea of a beginning since the work of Friedman which showed that the solutions of Einstein's equation showed that the universe had a beginning. The problem with a cyclical universe is with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. For every matter to energy or energy to matter exchange there is a loss of usable energy. So while the total energy of the universe does not decrease, the usable energy of the universe does decrease. If it is a periodic or cyclical universe then the entropy will increase with each cycle. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is a fundamental law of nature which tells us that entropy can only increase or stay the same. Entropy can never decrease. Which means that in a finite amount of time, a finite system will reach a maximum state of disorder which is called thermal equilibrium and then it will stay in that state. A cyclical universe cannot avoid this problem. Since we do not see thermal equilibrium (good thing too because there would be no life) we know that the universe did have a beginning.

Inflation Theory, the First Law of Thermodynamics and quantum mechanics tells us that it is possible for matter to have a beginning. In a closed universe the gravitational energy which is always negative exactly compensates the positive energy of matter. So the energy of a closed universe is always zero. So nothing prevents this universe from being spontaneously created. Because the net energy is always zero. The positive energy of matter is balanced by the negative energy of the gravity of that matter which is the space time curvature of that matter. There is no conservation law that prevents the formation of such a universe. In quantum mechanics if something is not forbidden by conservation laws, then it necessarily happens with some non-zero probability. So a closed universe can spontaneously appear - through the laws of quantum mechanics - out of nothing. And in fact there is an elegant mathematical description which describes this process and shows that a tiny closed universe having very high energy can spontaneously pop into existence and immediately start to expand and cool.

Chapters 1 and 2 of Genesis is the allegorical account of creation and describes that the universe was created in steps or stage or phases. Scientific evidence tells us that the universe started out as subatomic particles and very quickly formed hydrogen and helium. This is called cosmic evolution. The hydrogen and helium formed stellar structures such as galaxies. This is called stellar evolution. The supernovas of stars created all of the elements and compounds that we see through fusion. This is called chemical evolution. All of these stages or phases had to occur before inanimate matter could make the leap to life. An event we still do not fully understand although the best understanding is that it can only occur in hot, wet conditions with an atmosphere rich in certain chemical compounds. Even with these condition being present we do not know how these chemical compounds could fold themselves in just the correct sequence to create life capable of replicating itself. The amount of information required for life to replicate is staggering. But however life made this leap we know it had to begin from a single celled organism and evolved into evermore increasing complex life forms up to the point that beings that know and create eventually arose.

Chapters 1 and 2 of Genesis tells us that space and time had a beginning, that it was created in steps and that life came from inanimate matter.

Link to the site where you copied this from.

I wrote it. I didn't copy it.

Oh, so it's ignorable fartsmoke. Thanks for the warning.

I couldn’t be happier for you to see it that way.

I wouldn’t want to burst your bubble.

Your stuff is pretend science. I don’t have time to argue against make believe.

Taz, I am not trying to convince you. I am using you.

 

[Hollie]

So what if science points to a beginning.

This is you starting to realize the futility of trying to refute my argument.

lol... the the story of Genesis itself refutes your argument..


Just so you know, I used to feel bad for someone caught in such an embarrassing position as the one you find yourself in.

Not anymore. Now I find it entertaining..knowing you deserve it.

Does that make me a bad person?

No one is all bad or all good.

Thats nonsense. That would make the teachings of Jesus, Moses, all the prophets, and the entire law a lie.

People who have made evil a conscious and deliberate choice are all bad. There is no trace of evil in me.

I'm just not completely sure whether you are still suffering from the traumatic effects of child abuse or if you have turned completely and became just like your abusers....

A deranged serial killer, always on the prowl for the gullible.

I don’t see how it would because we are told in Genesis that everything God created is good.

Be sure to thank the gods for the blueprint to the cancer cell.

Everything the gods created is good.

Super!

 

[Hollie]

the the story of Genesis itself refutes your argument..

Bar Ilan University’s Professor Nathan Aviezer disagrees with you.

Could New Scientific Discovery Support Creation?

Nothing in the article points to your gods or anyone else’s gods.

 

[ding]

This is you starting to realize the futility of trying to refute my argument.

lol... the the story of Genesis itself refutes your argument..


Just so you know, I used to feel bad for someone caught in such an embarrassing position as the one you find yourself in.

Not anymore. Now I find it entertaining..knowing you deserve it.

Does that make me a bad person?

No one is all bad or all good.

Thats nonsense. That would make the teachings of Jesus, Moses, all the prophets, and the entire law a lie.

People who have made evil a conscious and deliberate choice are all bad. There is no trace of evil in me.

I'm just not completely sure whether you are still suffering from the traumatic effects of child abuse or if you have turned completely and became just like your abusers....

A deranged serial killer, always on the prowl for the gullible.

I don’t see how it would because we are told in Genesis that everything God created is good.

Be sure to thank the gods for the blueprint to the cancer cell.

Everything the gods created is good.

Super!

Yes. Everything is good. Make sure to explain to God how he fucked up. Don’t let God off the hook.

 

[ding]

the the story of Genesis itself refutes your argument..

Bar Ilan University’s Professor Nathan Aviezer disagrees with you.

Could New Scientific Discovery Support Creation?

Nothing in the article points to your gods or anyone else’s gods.

You mean other than confirming the account of creation in Genesis?

 

[Hollie]

lol... the the story of Genesis itself refutes your argument..


Just so you know, I used to feel bad for someone caught in such an embarrassing position as the one you find yourself in.

Not anymore. Now I find it entertaining..knowing you deserve it.

Does that make me a bad person?

No one is all bad or all good.

Thats nonsense. That would make the teachings of Jesus, Moses, all the prophets, and the entire law a lie.

People who have made evil a conscious and deliberate choice are all bad. There is no trace of evil in me.

I'm just not completely sure whether you are still suffering from the traumatic effects of child abuse or if you have turned completely and became just like your abusers....

A deranged serial killer, always on the prowl for the gullible.

I don’t see how it would because we are told in Genesis that everything God created is good.

Be sure to thank the gods for the blueprint to the cancer cell.

Everything the gods created is good.

Super!

Yes. Everything is good. Make sure to explain to God how he fucked up. Don’t let God off the hook.

No need to get snippy with me because your gods designs are amateurish or just plain incompetent.

Is it your gods who cause tornadoes? Yes, they establishe the laws of convection and rotation of planets, and those two elements together create swirling whirlwinds we call twisters. Things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely the way they are. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and cancer etc., none of which are essential to a world created by God(s). They could have just as easily made it otherwise, they just didn't.

 

[Hollie]

the the story of Genesis itself refutes your argument..

Bar Ilan University’s Professor Nathan Aviezer disagrees with you.

Could New Scientific Discovery Support Creation?

Nothing in the article points to your gods or anyone else’s gods.

You mean other than confirming the account of creation in Genesis?

The account of creation in Genesis is a contradictory mess.

 

[Taz]

Link to the site where you copied this from.

I wrote it. I didn't copy it.

Oh, so it's ignorable fartsmoke. Thanks for the warning.

I couldn’t be happier for you to see it that way.

I wouldn’t want to burst your bubble.

Your stuff is pretend science. I don’t have time to argue against make believe.

Taz, I am not trying to convince you. I am using you.

Am I the devil in your fantasy world?

 

[ding]

No one is all bad or all good.

Thats nonsense. That would make the teachings of Jesus, Moses, all the prophets, and the entire law a lie.

People who have made evil a conscious and deliberate choice are all bad. There is no trace of evil in me.

I'm just not completely sure whether you are still suffering from the traumatic effects of child abuse or if you have turned completely and became just like your abusers....

A deranged serial killer, always on the prowl for the gullible.

I don’t see how it would because we are told in Genesis that everything God created is good.

Be sure to thank the gods for the blueprint to the cancer cell.

Everything the gods created is good.

Super!

Yes. Everything is good. Make sure to explain to God how he fucked up. Don’t let God off the hook.

No need to get snippy with me because your gods designs are amateurish or just plain incompetent.

Is it your gods who cause tornadoes? Yes, they establishe the laws of convection and rotation of planets, and those two elements together create swirling whirlwinds we call twisters. Things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely the way they are. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and cancer etc., none of which are essential to a world created by God(s). They could have just as easily made it otherwise, they just didn't.

Snippy? It’s the logical conclusion of your beliefs.

You are literally arguing that you are more intelligent than the creator of existence.

Don’t hold back. Let him have it with both barrels.

 

[ding]

I wrote it. I didn't copy it.

Oh, so it's ignorable fartsmoke. Thanks for the warning.

I couldn’t be happier for you to see it that way.

I wouldn’t want to burst your bubble.

Your stuff is pretend science. I don’t have time to argue against make believe.

Taz, I am not trying to convince you. I am using you.

Am I the devil in your fantasy world?

I don’t think that. Why would I?

 

[ding]

the the story of Genesis itself refutes your argument..

Bar Ilan University’s Professor Nathan Aviezer disagrees with you.

Could New Scientific Discovery Support Creation?

Nothing in the article points to your gods or anyone else’s gods.

You mean other than confirming the account of creation in Genesis?

The account of creation in Genesis is a contradictory mess.

I’m sure you do see it that way.

 

[Hollie]

Thats nonsense. That would make the teachings of Jesus, Moses, all the prophets, and the entire law a lie.

People who have made evil a conscious and deliberate choice are all bad. There is no trace of evil in me.

I'm just not completely sure whether you are still suffering from the traumatic effects of child abuse or if you have turned completely and became just like your abusers....

A deranged serial killer, always on the prowl for the gullible.

I don’t see how it would because we are told in Genesis that everything God created is good.

Be sure to thank the gods for the blueprint to the cancer cell.

Everything the gods created is good.

Super!

Yes. Everything is good. Make sure to explain to God how he fucked up. Don’t let God off the hook.

No need to get snippy with me because your gods designs are amateurish or just plain incompetent.

Is it your gods who cause tornadoes? Yes, they establishe the laws of convection and rotation of planets, and those two elements together create swirling whirlwinds we call twisters. Things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely the way they are. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and cancer etc., none of which are essential to a world created by God(s). They could have just as easily made it otherwise, they just didn't.

Snippy? It’s the logical conclusion of your beliefs.

You are literally arguing that you are more intelligent than the creator of existence.

Don’t hold back. Let him have it with both barrels.

Claims to your “creator of existence” are no more relevant than all the other claims to designer gods.

However, in the roll call of angry, incompetent designer gods yours are among the angriest and most incompetent.
It’s as though you’re a salesman, trying to sell something.

Any thoughts as to why your gods made such an incompetent design that floods, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc., are such common killers of mankind and animals?

 

[ding]

I don’t see how it would because we are told in Genesis that everything God created is good.

Be sure to thank the gods for the blueprint to the cancer cell.

Everything the gods created is good.

Super!

Yes. Everything is good. Make sure to explain to God how he fucked up. Don’t let God off the hook.

No need to get snippy with me because your gods designs are amateurish or just plain incompetent.

Is it your gods who cause tornadoes? Yes, they establishe the laws of convection and rotation of planets, and those two elements together create swirling whirlwinds we call twisters. Things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely the way they are. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and cancer etc., none of which are essential to a world created by God(s). They could have just as easily made it otherwise, they just didn't.

Snippy? It’s the logical conclusion of your beliefs.

You are literally arguing that you are more intelligent than the creator of existence.

Don’t hold back. Let him have it with both barrels.

Claims to your “creator of existence” are no more relevant than all the other claims to designer gods.

However, in the roll call of angry, incompetent designer gods yours are among the angriest and most incompetent.
It’s as though you’re a salesman, trying to sell some5hing.

I couldn’t care less what you believe.

I bet you wish you could say the same.

 

[Hollie]

Be sure to thank the gods for the blueprint to the cancer cell.

Everything the gods created is good.

Super!

Yes. Everything is good. Make sure to explain to God how he fucked up. Don’t let God off the hook.

No need to get snippy with me because your gods designs are amateurish or just plain incompetent.

Is it your gods who cause tornadoes? Yes, they establishe the laws of convection and rotation of planets, and those two elements together create swirling whirlwinds we call twisters. Things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely the way they are. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and cancer etc., none of which are essential to a world created by God(s). They could have just as easily made it otherwise, they just didn't.

Snippy? It’s the logical conclusion of your beliefs.

You are literally arguing that you are more intelligent than the creator of existence.

Don’t hold back. Let him have it with both barrels.

Claims to your “creator of existence” are no more relevant than all the other claims to designer gods.

However, in the roll call of angry, incompetent designer gods yours are among the angriest and most incompetent.
It’s as though you’re a salesman, trying to sell some5hing.

I couldn’t care less what you believe.

I bet you wish you could say the same.

No need to get snippy.

You’re in a public discussion forum making outrageous claims and making no effort to defend those claims.

Did you just presume that everyone would agree with you?

 

[ding]

Yes. Everything is good. Make sure to explain to God how he fucked up. Don’t let God off the hook.

No need to get snippy with me because your gods designs are amateurish or just plain incompetent.

Is it your gods who cause tornadoes? Yes, they establishe the laws of convection and rotation of planets, and those two elements together create swirling whirlwinds we call twisters. Things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely the way they are. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and cancer etc., none of which are essential to a world created by God(s). They could have just as easily made it otherwise, they just didn't.

Snippy? It’s the logical conclusion of your beliefs.

You are literally arguing that you are more intelligent than the creator of existence.

Don’t hold back. Let him have it with both barrels.

Claims to your “creator of existence” are no more relevant than all the other claims to designer gods.

However, in the roll call of angry, incompetent designer gods yours are among the angriest and most incompetent.
It’s as though you’re a salesman, trying to sell some5hing.

I couldn’t care less what you believe.

I bet you wish you could say the same.

No need to get snippy.

You’re in a public discussion forum making outrageous claims and making no effort to defend those claims.

Did you just presume that everyone would agree with you?

Which claim did I make that was outrageous?

That you thinking you would do a better job creating existence is ludicrous?

Or suggesting when you meet the creator of existence that you should tell the creator of existence what a poor job he did in creating existence?