Next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...

[francoHFW]

Socialism is where business and industry is owned (communism) or regulated by the community...

"We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed...

People who want socialism don't understand the scope of that either.

So I'll expand

Socialism means the government owns every single factory in the country , every single farm and every single store, every single hospital, every single plane train and truck used to distribute goods every single bank every single printing press, every single TV and radio station etc etc

That is communism, brainwashed Cold War dinosaur ignoramus GOP Super Dupe. LOL. As opposed to always Democratic socialism everywhere but GOP dupe world... Join the 21st century...

 

[The Original Tree]

Socialism is where business and industry is owned (communism) or regulated by the community...

"We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed...

People who want socialism don't understand the scope of that either.

So I'll expand

Socialism means the government owns every single factory in the country , every single farm and every single store, every single hospital, every single plane train and truck used to distribute goods every single bank every single printing press, every single TV and radio station etc etc

That is communism, brainwashed Cold War dinosaur ignoramus GOP Super Dupe. LOL. As opposed to always Democratic socialism everywhere but GOP dupe world... Join the 21st century...

 

[2aguy]

Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.
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To the extent that capitalism’s problems – inequality, instability (cycles/crises), etc. – stem in part from its production relationships, reforms focused exclusively on regulating or supplanting markets will not succeed in solving them. For example, Keynesian monetary policies (focused on raising or lowering the quantity of money in circulation and, correspondingly, interest rates) do not touch the employer-employee relationship, however much their variations redistribute wealth, regulate markets, or displace markets in favor of state-administered investment decisions. Likewise, Keynesian fiscal policies (raising or lowering taxes and government spending) do not address the employer-employee relationship.

Keynesian policies also never ended the cyclical instability of capitalism. The New Deal and European social democracy left capitalism in place in both state and private units (enterprises) of production notwithstanding their massive reform agendas and programs. They thereby left capitalist employers facing the incentives and receiving the resources (profits) to evade, weaken and eventually dissolve most of those programs.

It is far better not to distribute wealth unequally in the first place than to re-distribute it after to undo the inequality. For example, FDR proposed in 1944 that the government establish a maximum income alongside a minimum wage; that is one among the various ways inequality could be limited and thereby redistribution avoided. Efforts to redistribute encounter evasions, oppositions, and failures that compound the effects of unequal distribution itself. Social peace and cohesion are the victims of redistribution sooner or later. Reforming markets while leaving the relations/organization of capitalist production unchanged is like redistribution. Just as redistribution schemes fail to solve the problems rooted in distribution, market-focused reforms fail to solve the problems rooted in production.

Since 2008, capitalism has showed us all yet again its deep and unsolved problems of cyclical instability, deepening inequality and the injustices they both entail. Their persistence mirrors that of the capitalist organization of production. To successfully confront and solve the problems of economic cycles, income and wealth inequality, and so on, we need to go beyond the capitalist employer-employee system of production. The democratization of enterprises – transitioning from employer-employee hierarchies to worker cooperatives – is a key way available here and now to realize the change we need.

Worker coops democratically decide the distribution of income (wages, bonuses, benefits, profit shares, etc.) among their members. No small group of owners and the boards of directors they choose would, as in capitalist corporations, make such decisions. Thus, for example, it would be far less likely that a few individuals in a worker coop would earn millions while most others could not afford to send children to college. A democratic worker coop decision on the distribution of enterprise income would be far less unequal than what typifies capitalist enterprises. A socialism for the 21st century could and should include the transition from a capitalist to a worker-coop-based economic system as central to its commitments to less inequality and less social conflict over redistribution.

Capitalism Is Not the “Market System”

The problem with the "Great Depression" was the socialist, Roosevelt, tried to take over the U.S. economy, making the "Great Depression" one of the worst depressions we ever suffered. Most depressions last a few years then the economy bounces back, but the socialist meddling in the economy made it last longer and made it more devestating than any in the past......socialism destroys countries....it destroyed our country up to the war...

 

[2aguy]

Socialism is where business and industry is owned (communism) or regulated by the community...

"We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed...

People who want socialism don't understand the scope of that either.

So I'll expand

Socialism means the government owns every single factory in the country , every single farm and every single store, every single hospital, every single plane train and truck used to distribute goods every single bank every single printing press, every single TV and radio station etc etc

That is communism, brainwashed Cold War dinosaur ignoramus GOP Super Dupe. LOL. As opposed to always Democratic socialism everywhere but GOP dupe world... Join the 21st century...

Democratic socialism only works while the productive people still decide to work.....until the young are taught not to work, to take the government handout.....then the safeguards fail, and the country sinks into the socialist hell they always end up creating.....just ask the oil rich nation of Venezuela......the wealthiest country in Latin America...until socialism took over....

 

[The Original Tree]

Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.
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To the extent that capitalism’s problems – inequality, instability (cycles/crises), etc. – stem in part from its production relationships, reforms focused exclusively on regulating or supplanting markets will not succeed in solving them. For example, Keynesian monetary policies (focused on raising or lowering the quantity of money in circulation and, correspondingly, interest rates) do not touch the employer-employee relationship, however much their variations redistribute wealth, regulate markets, or displace markets in favor of state-administered investment decisions. Likewise, Keynesian fiscal policies (raising or lowering taxes and government spending) do not address the employer-employee relationship.

Keynesian policies also never ended the cyclical instability of capitalism. The New Deal and European social democracy left capitalism in place in both state and private units (enterprises) of production notwithstanding their massive reform agendas and programs. They thereby left capitalist employers facing the incentives and receiving the resources (profits) to evade, weaken and eventually dissolve most of those programs.

It is far better not to distribute wealth unequally in the first place than to re-distribute it after to undo the inequality. For example, FDR proposed in 1944 that the government establish a maximum income alongside a minimum wage; that is one among the various ways inequality could be limited and thereby redistribution avoided. Efforts to redistribute encounter evasions, oppositions, and failures that compound the effects of unequal distribution itself. Social peace and cohesion are the victims of redistribution sooner or later. Reforming markets while leaving the relations/organization of capitalist production unchanged is like redistribution. Just as redistribution schemes fail to solve the problems rooted in distribution, market-focused reforms fail to solve the problems rooted in production.

Since 2008, capitalism has showed us all yet again its deep and unsolved problems of cyclical instability, deepening inequality and the injustices they both entail. Their persistence mirrors that of the capitalist organization of production. To successfully confront and solve the problems of economic cycles, income and wealth inequality, and so on, we need to go beyond the capitalist employer-employee system of production. The democratization of enterprises – transitioning from employer-employee hierarchies to worker cooperatives – is a key way available here and now to realize the change we need.

Worker coops democratically decide the distribution of income (wages, bonuses, benefits, profit shares, etc.) among their members. No small group of owners and the boards of directors they choose would, as in capitalist corporations, make such decisions. Thus, for example, it would be far less likely that a few individuals in a worker coop would earn millions while most others could not afford to send children to college. A democratic worker coop decision on the distribution of enterprise income would be far less unequal than what typifies capitalist enterprises. A socialism for the 21st century could and should include the transition from a capitalist to a worker-coop-based economic system as central to its commitments to less inequality and less social conflict over redistribution.

Capitalism Is Not the “Market System”

The problem with the "Great Depression" was the socialist, Roosevelt, tried to take over the U.S. economy, making the "Great Depression" one of the worst depressions we ever suffered. Most depressions last a few years then the economy bounces back, but the socialist meddling in the economy made it last longer and made it more devestating than any in the past......socialism destroys countries....it destroyed our country up to the war...

 

[francoHFW]

Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.
View attachment 245504 View attachment 245506 View attachment 245505

To the extent that capitalism’s problems – inequality, instability (cycles/crises), etc. – stem in part from its production relationships, reforms focused exclusively on regulating or supplanting markets will not succeed in solving them. For example, Keynesian monetary policies (focused on raising or lowering the quantity of money in circulation and, correspondingly, interest rates) do not touch the employer-employee relationship, however much their variations redistribute wealth, regulate markets, or displace markets in favor of state-administered investment decisions. Likewise, Keynesian fiscal policies (raising or lowering taxes and government spending) do not address the employer-employee relationship.

Keynesian policies also never ended the cyclical instability of capitalism. The New Deal and European social democracy left capitalism in place in both state and private units (enterprises) of production notwithstanding their massive reform agendas and programs. They thereby left capitalist employers facing the incentives and receiving the resources (profits) to evade, weaken and eventually dissolve most of those programs.

It is far better not to distribute wealth unequally in the first place than to re-distribute it after to undo the inequality. For example, FDR proposed in 1944 that the government establish a maximum income alongside a minimum wage; that is one among the various ways inequality could be limited and thereby redistribution avoided. Efforts to redistribute encounter evasions, oppositions, and failures that compound the effects of unequal distribution itself. Social peace and cohesion are the victims of redistribution sooner or later. Reforming markets while leaving the relations/organization of capitalist production unchanged is like redistribution. Just as redistribution schemes fail to solve the problems rooted in distribution, market-focused reforms fail to solve the problems rooted in production.

Since 2008, capitalism has showed us all yet again its deep and unsolved problems of cyclical instability, deepening inequality and the injustices they both entail. Their persistence mirrors that of the capitalist organization of production. To successfully confront and solve the problems of economic cycles, income and wealth inequality, and so on, we need to go beyond the capitalist employer-employee system of production. The democratization of enterprises – transitioning from employer-employee hierarchies to worker cooperatives – is a key way available here and now to realize the change we need.

Worker coops democratically decide the distribution of income (wages, bonuses, benefits, profit shares, etc.) among their members. No small group of owners and the boards of directors they choose would, as in capitalist corporations, make such decisions. Thus, for example, it would be far less likely that a few individuals in a worker coop would earn millions while most others could not afford to send children to college. A democratic worker coop decision on the distribution of enterprise income would be far less unequal than what typifies capitalist enterprises. A socialism for the 21st century could and should include the transition from a capitalist to a worker-coop-based economic system as central to its commitments to less inequality and less social conflict over redistribution.

Capitalism Is Not the “Market System”

The problem with the "Great Depression" was the socialist, Roosevelt, tried to take over the U.S. economy, making the "Great Depression" one of the worst depressions we ever suffered. Most depressions last a few years then the economy bounces back, but the socialist meddling in the economy made it last longer and made it more devestating than any in the past......socialism destroys countries....it destroyed our country up to the war...

Unlike 2008, Democrats did not get in for two and a half years and there was no longer any money around 2 avert a full-blown depression. See typical GOP corrupt economic meltdown. Great job! then there was all that GOP trade war and tariff stuff in 1930 that wrecked the rest of the world that hadn't been already... You moron GOP voters never learn, the GOP is the swamp, dumbasses -especially now...

 

[The Original Tree]

Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.
View attachment 245504 View attachment 245506 View attachment 245505

To the extent that capitalism’s problems – inequality, instability (cycles/crises), etc. – stem in part from its production relationships, reforms focused exclusively on regulating or supplanting markets will not succeed in solving them. For example, Keynesian monetary policies (focused on raising or lowering the quantity of money in circulation and, correspondingly, interest rates) do not touch the employer-employee relationship, however much their variations redistribute wealth, regulate markets, or displace markets in favor of state-administered investment decisions. Likewise, Keynesian fiscal policies (raising or lowering taxes and government spending) do not address the employer-employee relationship.

Keynesian policies also never ended the cyclical instability of capitalism. The New Deal and European social democracy left capitalism in place in both state and private units (enterprises) of production notwithstanding their massive reform agendas and programs. They thereby left capitalist employers facing the incentives and receiving the resources (profits) to evade, weaken and eventually dissolve most of those programs.

It is far better not to distribute wealth unequally in the first place than to re-distribute it after to undo the inequality. For example, FDR proposed in 1944 that the government establish a maximum income alongside a minimum wage; that is one among the various ways inequality could be limited and thereby redistribution avoided. Efforts to redistribute encounter evasions, oppositions, and failures that compound the effects of unequal distribution itself. Social peace and cohesion are the victims of redistribution sooner or later. Reforming markets while leaving the relations/organization of capitalist production unchanged is like redistribution. Just as redistribution schemes fail to solve the problems rooted in distribution, market-focused reforms fail to solve the problems rooted in production.

Since 2008, capitalism has showed us all yet again its deep and unsolved problems of cyclical instability, deepening inequality and the injustices they both entail. Their persistence mirrors that of the capitalist organization of production. To successfully confront and solve the problems of economic cycles, income and wealth inequality, and so on, we need to go beyond the capitalist employer-employee system of production. The democratization of enterprises – transitioning from employer-employee hierarchies to worker cooperatives – is a key way available here and now to realize the change we need.

Worker coops democratically decide the distribution of income (wages, bonuses, benefits, profit shares, etc.) among their members. No small group of owners and the boards of directors they choose would, as in capitalist corporations, make such decisions. Thus, for example, it would be far less likely that a few individuals in a worker coop would earn millions while most others could not afford to send children to college. A democratic worker coop decision on the distribution of enterprise income would be far less unequal than what typifies capitalist enterprises. A socialism for the 21st century could and should include the transition from a capitalist to a worker-coop-based economic system as central to its commitments to less inequality and less social conflict over redistribution.

Capitalism Is Not the “Market System”

The problem with the "Great Depression" was the socialist, Roosevelt, tried to take over the U.S. economy, making the "Great Depression" one of the worst depressions we ever suffered. Most depressions last a few years then the economy bounces back, but the socialist meddling in the economy made it last longer and made it more devestating than any in the past......socialism destroys countries....it destroyed our country up to the war...

Unlike 2008, Democrats did not get in for two and a half years and there was no longer any money around 2 avert a full-blown depression. See typical GOP corrupt economic meltdown. Great job! then there was all that GOP trade war and tariff stuff in 1930 that wrecked the rest of the world that hadn't been already... You moron GOP voters never learn, the GOP is the swamp, dumbasses -especially now...

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism is where business and industry is owned (communism) or regulated by the community...

"We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed...

People who want socialism don't understand the scope of that either.

So I'll expand

Socialism means the government owns every single factory in the country , every single farm and every single store, every single hospital, every single plane train and truck used to distribute goods every single bank every single printing press, every single TV and radio station etc etc

That is communism, brainwashed Cold War dinosaur ignoramus GOP Super Dupe. LOL. As opposed to always Democratic socialism everywhere but GOP dupe world... Join the 21st century...

Democratic socialism only works while the productive people still decide to work.....until the young are taught not to work, to take the government handout.....then the safeguards fail, and the country sinks into the socialist hell they always end up creating.....just ask the oil rich nation of Venezuela......the wealthiest country in Latin America...until socialism took over....

Or until George W bush, Obama, and Trump sabotaged and sanctioned them out of prosperity. Yes we know you are a brainwashed ignoramus...
.

 

[The Original Tree]

Socialism is where business and industry is owned (communism) or regulated by the community...

"We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed...

People who want socialism don't understand the scope of that either.

So I'll expand

Socialism means the government owns every single factory in the country , every single farm and every single store, every single hospital, every single plane train and truck used to distribute goods every single bank every single printing press, every single TV and radio station etc etc

That is communism, brainwashed Cold War dinosaur ignoramus GOP Super Dupe. LOL. As opposed to always Democratic socialism everywhere but GOP dupe world... Join the 21st century...

Democratic socialism only works while the productive people still decide to work.....until the young are taught not to work, to take the government handout.....then the safeguards fail, and the country sinks into the socialist hell they always end up creating.....just ask the oil rich nation of Venezuela......the wealthiest country in Latin America...until socialism took over....

Or until George W bush, Obama, and Trump sabotaged and sanctioned them out of prosperity. Yes we know you are a brainwashed ignoramus...
.

 

[danielpalos]

Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.
View attachment 245504 View attachment 245506 View attachment 245505

To the extent that capitalism’s problems – inequality, instability (cycles/crises), etc. – stem in part from its production relationships, reforms focused exclusively on regulating or supplanting markets will not succeed in solving them. For example, Keynesian monetary policies (focused on raising or lowering the quantity of money in circulation and, correspondingly, interest rates) do not touch the employer-employee relationship, however much their variations redistribute wealth, regulate markets, or displace markets in favor of state-administered investment decisions. Likewise, Keynesian fiscal policies (raising or lowering taxes and government spending) do not address the employer-employee relationship.

Keynesian policies also never ended the cyclical instability of capitalism. The New Deal and European social democracy left capitalism in place in both state and private units (enterprises) of production notwithstanding their massive reform agendas and programs. They thereby left capitalist employers facing the incentives and receiving the resources (profits) to evade, weaken and eventually dissolve most of those programs.

It is far better not to distribute wealth unequally in the first place than to re-distribute it after to undo the inequality. For example, FDR proposed in 1944 that the government establish a maximum income alongside a minimum wage; that is one among the various ways inequality could be limited and thereby redistribution avoided. Efforts to redistribute encounter evasions, oppositions, and failures that compound the effects of unequal distribution itself. Social peace and cohesion are the victims of redistribution sooner or later. Reforming markets while leaving the relations/organization of capitalist production unchanged is like redistribution. Just as redistribution schemes fail to solve the problems rooted in distribution, market-focused reforms fail to solve the problems rooted in production.

Since 2008, capitalism has showed us all yet again its deep and unsolved problems of cyclical instability, deepening inequality and the injustices they both entail. Their persistence mirrors that of the capitalist organization of production. To successfully confront and solve the problems of economic cycles, income and wealth inequality, and so on, we need to go beyond the capitalist employer-employee system of production. The democratization of enterprises – transitioning from employer-employee hierarchies to worker cooperatives – is a key way available here and now to realize the change we need.

Worker coops democratically decide the distribution of income (wages, bonuses, benefits, profit shares, etc.) among their members. No small group of owners and the boards of directors they choose would, as in capitalist corporations, make such decisions. Thus, for example, it would be far less likely that a few individuals in a worker coop would earn millions while most others could not afford to send children to college. A democratic worker coop decision on the distribution of enterprise income would be far less unequal than what typifies capitalist enterprises. A socialism for the 21st century could and should include the transition from a capitalist to a worker-coop-based economic system as central to its commitments to less inequality and less social conflict over redistribution.

Capitalism Is Not the “Market System”

The problem with the "Great Depression" was the socialist, Roosevelt, tried to take over the U.S. economy, making the "Great Depression" one of the worst depressions we ever suffered. Most depressions last a few years then the economy bounces back, but the socialist meddling in the economy made it last longer and made it more devestating than any in the past......socialism destroys countries....it destroyed our country up to the war...

From the beginning of preparedness in 1939 through the peak of war production in 1944, American leaders recognized that the stakes were too high to permit the war economy to grow in an unfettered, laissez-faire manner.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism is where business and industry is owned (communism) or regulated by the community...

"We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed...

People who want socialism don't understand the scope of that either.

So I'll expand

Socialism means the government owns every single factory in the country , every single farm and every single store, every single hospital, every single plane train and truck used to distribute goods every single bank every single printing press, every single TV and radio station etc etc

That is communism, brainwashed Cold War dinosaur ignoramus GOP Super Dupe. LOL. As opposed to always Democratic socialism everywhere but GOP dupe world... Join the 21st century...

Democratic socialism only works while the productive people still decide to work.....until the young are taught not to work, to take the government handout.....then the safeguards fail, and the country sinks into the socialist hell they always end up creating.....just ask the oil rich nation of Venezuela......the wealthiest country in Latin America...until socialism took over....

Or until George W bush, Obama, and Trump sabotaged and sanctioned them out of prosperity. Yes we know you are a brainwashed ignoramus...
.

The GOP greedy idiot mega-rich think they're so smart, they just have 2 use covert bs against anybody they don't agree with. Causes nothing but problems. Hello the Cold War is over... Thank you Ronnie Reagan and his pal Saddam, his genocidal allies in Central and South America and Africa. Great job! The GOP always a catastrophe since Teddy Roosevelt at least,but never more of a disgrace than they are now with their total garbage GOP propaganda machine running the orange clown and the clown base...

 

[McRocket]

'socialism (sōˈshə-lĭzˌəm)

• n.
  Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.'

socialism - definition and meaning

You progressives had better come up with a different means of describing your agenda than 'socialism' because the ACTUAL MEANING of it will NOT be accepted by the vast majority of Americans when it is voting time.

There is NO WAY that average Americans are going to agree to the government deciding how the economy should be run and how the nation's money supply should be divided.

Guaranteed.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism is where business and industry is owned (communism) or regulated by the community...

"We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed...

People who want socialism don't understand the scope of that either.

So I'll expand

Socialism means the government owns every single factory in the country , every single farm and every single store, every single hospital, every single plane train and truck used to distribute goods every single bank every single printing press, every single TV and radio station etc etc

That is communism, brainwashed Cold War dinosaur ignoramus GOP Super Dupe. LOL. As opposed to always Democratic socialism everywhere but GOP dupe world... Join the 21st century...

Democratic socialism only works while the productive people still decide to work.....until the young are taught not to work, to take the government handout.....then the safeguards fail, and the country sinks into the socialist hell they always end up creating.....just ask the oil rich nation of Venezuela......the wealthiest country in Latin America...until socialism took over....

Or until George W bush, Obama, and Trump sabotaged and sanctioned them out of prosperity. Yes we know you are a brainwashed ignoramus...
.

Socialism as understood everywhere outside your bubble of garbage propagandais simply fair capitalism with a good safety net, like they have in every modern successful country except the United States, thanks to the scumbag greedy idiot Rich GOP and its silly brainwash doops like you...

we are also the only modern country without a living wage Health Care daycare paid parental leave, cheap college and training, good vacations and infrastructure, an ID card to end illegal immigration, and fair taxation on the rich duh.... Wake up and smell the coffee ya dumb bastard...

 

[francoHFW]

'socialism (sōˈshə-lĭzˌəm)

• n.
  Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.'

socialism - definition and meaning

You progressives had better come up with a different means of describing your agenda than 'socialism' because the ACTUAL MEANING of it will NOT be accepted by the vast majority of Americans when it is voting time.

There is NO WAY that average Americans are going to agree to the government deciding how the economy should be run and how the nation's money supply should be divided.

Guaranteed.

Instead of stupid dictionary definitions, super duper, ask any socialist in any successful modern country. The definition used to say business and industry owned or regulated by the community. That would be owned in a communist country, and regulated in a socialist country. You are the stupidest voters in the modern world by far.... And brainwashed to boot.... Now our country is being run by Rush Limbaugh on Sean hannity, and the ridiculous orange clown. Try learning something.
"We are all socialists now"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed...

 

[francoHFW]

'socialism (sōˈshə-lĭzˌəm)

• n.
  Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.'

socialism - definition and meaning

You progressives had better come up with a different means of describing your agenda than 'socialism' because the ACTUAL MEANING of it will NOT be accepted by the vast majority of Americans when it is voting time.

There is NO WAY that average Americans are going to agree to the government deciding how the economy should be run and how the nation's money supply should be divided.

Guaranteed.

It already is, the brainwashing scumbag GOP has been running a giveaway to the rich for 35 years now, only your propaganda machine makes it possible...

 

[francoHFW]

'socialism (sōˈshə-lĭzˌəm)

• n.
  Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.'

socialism - definition and meaning

You progressives had better come up with a different means of describing your agenda than 'socialism' because the ACTUAL MEANING of it will NOT be accepted by the vast majority of Americans when it is voting time.

There is NO WAY that average Americans are going to agree to the government deciding how the economy should be run and how the nation's money supply should be divided.

Guaranteed.

It already is, the brainwashing scumbag GOP has been running a giveaway to the rich for 35 years now, only your propaganda machine makes it possible...

call it Democratic socialism if do you have to then, brainwashed functional moron. Bernie and AOC have to.

 

[Blues Man]

It's better that the government not distribute wealth at all.

why do you say that?

See, there is such a thing as a stupid question.

The government has no authority to tell anyone how much they can have

why do you say that?

Where does the constitution grant that power to the government?

Article the First, Section the Eighth.

Quote it

I already gave you a site that says the government has no re-distributive powers

 

[McRocket]

'socialism (sōˈshə-lĭzˌəm)

• n.
  Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.'

socialism - definition and meaning

You progressives had better come up with a different means of describing your agenda than 'socialism' because the ACTUAL MEANING of it will NOT be accepted by the vast majority of Americans when it is voting time.

There is NO WAY that average Americans are going to agree to the government deciding how the economy should be run and how the nation's money supply should be divided.

Guaranteed.

Instead of stupid dictionary definitions, super duper, ask any socialist in any successful modern country. The definition used to say business and industry owned or regulated by the community. That would be owned in a communist country, and regulated in a socialist country. You are the stupidest voters in the modern world by far.... And brainwashed to boot.... Now our country is being run by Rush Limbaugh on Sean hannity, and the ridiculous orange clown. Try learning something.
"We are all socialists now"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed...

So dictionary definitions are stupid? Really?

Is that ALL definitions? Or just the ones that don't say what you want them to say?

This is the definition of 'socialism' from one of the most, respected dictionaries in the world - the Oxford Dictionary:

'socialism

NOUN
mass noun

• 1A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.'

socialism | Definition of socialism in English by Oxford Dictionaries

So are they 'stupid' as well?
Yes or No, please?


Oh and who is it that I voted for that makes me 'stupid'?

 

[Blues Man]

Socialism is where business and industry is owned (communism) or regulated by the community...

"We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed...

People who want socialism don't understand the scope of that either.

So I'll expand

Socialism means the government owns every single factory in the country , every single farm and every single store, every single hospital, every single plane train and truck used to distribute goods every single bank every single printing press, every single TV and radio station etc etc

That is communism, brainwashed Cold War dinosaur ignoramus GOP Super Dupe. LOL. As opposed to always Democratic socialism everywhere but GOP dupe world... Join the 21st century...

Another one who doesn't know the definition of socialism

socialism
noun
so·cial·ism | \ ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm \
Definition of socialism


1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

 

[francoHFW]

'socialism (sōˈshə-lĭzˌəm)

• n.
  Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.'

socialism - definition and meaning

You progressives had better come up with a different means of describing your agenda than 'socialism' because the ACTUAL MEANING of it will NOT be accepted by the vast majority of Americans when it is voting time.

There is NO WAY that average Americans are going to agree to the government deciding how the economy should be run and how the nation's money supply should be divided.

Guaranteed.

Instead of stupid dictionary definitions, super duper, ask any socialist in any successful modern country. The definition used to say business and industry owned or regulated by the community. That would be owned in a communist country, and regulated in a socialist country. You are the stupidest voters in the modern world by far.... And brainwashed to boot.... Now our country is being run by Rush Limbaugh on Sean hannity, and the ridiculous orange clown. Try learning something.
"We are all socialists now"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed...

So dictionary definitions are stupid? Really?

Is that ALL definitions? Or just the ones that don't say what you want them to say?

This is the definition of 'socialism' from one of the most, respected dictionaries in the world - the Oxford Dictionary:

'socialism

NOUN
mass noun

• 1A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.'

socialism | Definition of socialism in English by Oxford Dictionaries

So are they 'stupid' as well?
Yes or No, please?


Oh and who is it that I voted for that makes me 'stupid'?

Owned or regulated, communism or socialism? Any Republican ever.