Next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...

[francoHFW]

These days there is so much turnover you start over every few years at 8 to $10 it seems like to me.

Bingo!!! Ding! Ding! Ding! And there it is folks. The left is completely and totally devoid of facts. Everything they do is based on slanted and absurd views which just seems to actually exist to them.

so you haven't heard that people have to change their jobs much more often these days? Idiot.

so you haven't heard that people have to change their jobs much more often these days?

After 8 years of Obama and 8 years of Clinton?
Why are Dems such useless bastards?

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid. For 35 years now, we've had a giveaway to the rich, screw the rest, Reagan dream, idiot. Everything Clinton and Obama wanted to do except ACA was obstructed. You brainwashed fool GOP voters have no clue what Democrats want.

lol Be real, the only thing Clinton or Obama wanted to do was be President.

Try a real News channel, brainwashed functional idiot.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Bingo!!! Ding! Ding! Ding! And there it is folks. The left is completely and totally devoid of facts. Everything they do is based on slanted and absurd views which just seems to actually exist to them.

so you haven't heard that people have to change their jobs much more often these days? Idiot.

so you haven't heard that people have to change their jobs much more often these days?

After 8 years of Obama and 8 years of Clinton?
Why are Dems such useless bastards?

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid. For 35 years now, we've had a giveaway to the rich, screw the rest, Reagan dream, idiot. Everything Clinton and Obama wanted to do except ACA was obstructed. You brainwashed fool GOP voters have no clue what Democrats want.

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid.

16 years of Obama and Clinton and you twats couldn't get anything done?
No reason to ever elect any Democrats to national office then......

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform, thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid. The GOP with GOP reconciliation crap rule only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and screw everyone else with cuts in services. And you idiots thinks that is just wonderful- morons.

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform

No they don't, you stupid fucking twat.

thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid.

Guess how many votes the stupid Dems need to change the filibuster rule......
I'll give you a hint.....it's the same as your IQ.

 

[francoHFW]

so you haven't heard that people have to change their jobs much more often these days? Idiot.

so you haven't heard that people have to change their jobs much more often these days?

After 8 years of Obama and 8 years of Clinton?
Why are Dems such useless bastards?

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid. For 35 years now, we've had a giveaway to the rich, screw the rest, Reagan dream, idiot. Everything Clinton and Obama wanted to do except ACA was obstructed. You brainwashed fool GOP voters have no clue what Democrats want.

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid.

16 years of Obama and Clinton and you twats couldn't get anything done?
No reason to ever elect any Democrats to national office then......

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform, thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid. The GOP with GOP reconciliation crap rule only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and screw everyone else with cuts in services. And you idiots thinks that is just wonderful- morons.

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform

No they don't, you stupid fucking twat.

thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid.

Guess how many votes the stupid Dems need to change the filibuster rule......
I'll give you a hint.....it's the same as your IQ.

How many do you think, stupid? And try reality... Please

 

[francoHFW]

so you haven't heard that people have to change their jobs much more often these days? Idiot.

so you haven't heard that people have to change their jobs much more often these days?

After 8 years of Obama and 8 years of Clinton?
Why are Dems such useless bastards?

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid. For 35 years now, we've had a giveaway to the rich, screw the rest, Reagan dream, idiot. Everything Clinton and Obama wanted to do except ACA was obstructed. You brainwashed fool GOP voters have no clue what Democrats want.

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid.

16 years of Obama and Clinton and you twats couldn't get anything done?
No reason to ever elect any Democrats to national office then......

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform, thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid. The GOP with GOP reconciliation crap rule only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and screw everyone else with cuts in services. And you idiots thinks that is just wonderful- morons.

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform

No they don't, you stupid fucking twat.

thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid.

Guess how many votes the stupid Dems need to change the filibuster rule......
I'll give you a hint.....it's the same as your IQ.

Where'd you go LOL?

 

[francoHFW]

These days there is so much turnover you start over every few years at 8 to $10 it seems like to me.

Bingo!!! Ding! Ding! Ding! And there it is folks. The left is completely and totally devoid of facts. Everything they do is based on slanted and absurd views which just seems to actually exist to them.

so you haven't heard that people have to change their jobs much more often these days? Idiot.

so you haven't heard that people have to change their jobs much more often these days?

After 8 years of Obama and 8 years of Clinton?
Why are Dems such useless bastards?

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid. For 35 years now, we've had a giveaway to the rich, screw the rest, Reagan dream, idiot. Everything Clinton and Obama wanted to do except ACA was obstructed. You brainwashed fool GOP voters have no clue what Democrats want.

lol Be real, the only thing Clinton or Obama wanted to do was be President.

It is tough when you need 60 votes.... Poor America.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

so you haven't heard that people have to change their jobs much more often these days?

After 8 years of Obama and 8 years of Clinton?
Why are Dems such useless bastards?

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid. For 35 years now, we've had a giveaway to the rich, screw the rest, Reagan dream, idiot. Everything Clinton and Obama wanted to do except ACA was obstructed. You brainwashed fool GOP voters have no clue what Democrats want.

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid.

16 years of Obama and Clinton and you twats couldn't get anything done?
No reason to ever elect any Democrats to national office then......

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform, thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid. The GOP with GOP reconciliation crap rule only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and screw everyone else with cuts in services. And you idiots thinks that is just wonderful- morons.

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform

No they don't, you stupid fucking twat.

thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid.

Guess how many votes the stupid Dems need to change the filibuster rule......
I'll give you a hint.....it's the same as your IQ.

How many do you think, stupid? And try reality... Please

51 you stupid twat.

 

[francoHFW]

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid. For 35 years now, we've had a giveaway to the rich, screw the rest, Reagan dream, idiot. Everything Clinton and Obama wanted to do except ACA was obstructed. You brainwashed fool GOP voters have no clue what Democrats want.

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid.

16 years of Obama and Clinton and you twats couldn't get anything done?
No reason to ever elect any Democrats to national office then......

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform, thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid. The GOP with GOP reconciliation crap rule only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and screw everyone else with cuts in services. And you idiots thinks that is just wonderful- morons.

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform

No they don't, you stupid fucking twat.

thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid.

Guess how many votes the stupid Dems need to change the filibuster rule......
I'll give you a hint.....it's the same as your IQ.

How many do you think, stupid? And try reality... Please

51 you stupid twat.

Wrong again and always, a****** LOL
According to the Supreme Court's ruling in United States v. Ballin (1892), Senate rules canbe changed by a simple majority vote. Nevertheless, under current Senate rules, a rule change could itself be filibustered, requiring two-thirds of senators who are present and voting to end debate.
Filibuster in the United States Senate - Wikipedia

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We are living in the new vs GOP United States, stupid.

16 years of Obama and Clinton and you twats couldn't get anything done?
No reason to ever elect any Democrats to national office then......

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform, thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid. The GOP with GOP reconciliation crap rule only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and screw everyone else with cuts in services. And you idiots thinks that is just wonderful- morons.

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform

No they don't, you stupid fucking twat.

thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid.

Guess how many votes the stupid Dems need to change the filibuster rule......
I'll give you a hint.....it's the same as your IQ.

How many do you think, stupid? And try reality... Please

51 you stupid twat.

Wrong again and always, a****** LOL
According to the Supreme Court's ruling in United States v. Ballin (1892), Senate rules canbe changed by a simple majority vote. Nevertheless, under current Senate rules, a rule change could itself be filibustered, requiring two-thirds of senators who are present and voting to end debate.
Filibuster in the United States Senate - Wikipedia

Senate rules can be changed by a simple majority vote.

See, silly twat.

Nevertheless, under current Senate rules, a rule change could itself be filibustered, requiring two-thirds of senators who are present and voting to end debate.

Nope. They can vote to eliminate the filibuster with 51 votes, "nuclear option".

 

[Lesh]

Neither party wants to eliminate the filibuster on legislation because whenever the Senate changes hands...the minority would have ZERO power and all sorts of heinous legislation would pass and then be rescinded with the next change of control.

 

[francoHFW]

I say do the nuclear option, the more the Republicans can do the less people like them, and the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them. Hasn't happened in 50 years the Democrats have been able to do anyting. Except for a couple of weeks under Obama.

 

[francoHFW]

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform, thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid. The GOP with GOP reconciliation crap rule only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and screw everyone else with cuts in services. And you idiots thinks that is just wonderful- morons.

Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform

No they don't, you stupid fucking twat.

thanks to GOP filibuster rule which is putrid.

Guess how many votes the stupid Dems need to change the filibuster rule......
I'll give you a hint.....it's the same as your IQ.

How many do you think, stupid? And try reality... Please

51 you stupid twat.

Wrong again and always, a****** LOL
According to the Supreme Court's ruling in United States v. Ballin (1892), Senate rules canbe changed by a simple majority vote. Nevertheless, under current Senate rules, a rule change could itself be filibustered, requiring two-thirds of senators who are present and voting to end debate.
Filibuster in the United States Senate - Wikipedia

Senate rules can be changed by a simple majority vote.

See, silly twat.

Nevertheless, under current Senate rules, a rule change could itself be filibustered, requiring two-thirds of senators who are present and voting to end debate.

Nope. They can vote to eliminate the filibuster with 51 votes, "nuclear option".

And then, in the real world.....

 

[francoHFW]

I say do the nuclear option, the more the Republicans can do the less people like them, and the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them. Hasn't happened in 50 years the Democrats have been able to do anyting. Except for a couple of weeks under Obama.

In the middle of a corrupt GOP total economic meltdown.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I say do the nuclear option, the more the Republicans can do the less people like them, and the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them. Hasn't happened in 50 years the Democrats have been able to do anyting. Except for a couple of weeks under Obama.

the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them.

Yeah, that's why after 2 years of Clinton, the Republicans won 10 more seats in the Senate and gained 54 seats in the House to gain control for the first time since 1954.

That's why after 2 years of Obama, the Republicans won 6 more seats in the Senate and gained 63 seats (holy shit!) in the House.

Moron!

 

[francoHFW]

I say do the nuclear option, the more the Republicans can do the less people like them, and the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them. Hasn't happened in 50 years the Democrats have been able to do anyting. Except for a couple of weeks under Obama.

the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them.

Yeah, that's why after 2 years of Clinton, the Republicans won 10 more seats in the Senate and gained 54 seats in the House to gain control for the first time since 1954.

That's why after 2 years of Obama, the Republicans won 6 more seats in the Senate and gained 63 seats (holy shit!) in the House.

Moron!

It always takes time to overcome the tidal wave of GOP garbage propaganda... Jobs jobs jobs my ass. The GOP did nothing but obstruct Clinton and Obama, except for ACA where they had 60 votes to overcome the obstruction for a few weeks. The country is desperate for democratic control like we had under LBJ, and not in the middle of another corrupt GOP economic meltdown....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I say do the nuclear option, the more the Republicans can do the less people like them, and the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them. Hasn't happened in 50 years the Democrats have been able to do anyting. Except for a couple of weeks under Obama.

the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them.

Yeah, that's why after 2 years of Clinton, the Republicans won 10 more seats in the Senate and gained 54 seats in the House to gain control for the first time since 1954.

That's why after 2 years of Obama, the Republicans won 6 more seats in the Senate and gained 63 seats (holy shit!) in the House.

Moron!

It always takes time to overcome the tidal wave of GOP garbage propaganda... Jobs jobs jobs my ass. The GOP did nothing but obstruct Clinton and Obama, except for ACA where they had 60 votes to overcome the obstruction for a few weeks. The country is desperate for democratic control like we had under LBJ, and not in the middle of another corrupt GOP economic meltdown....

It always takes time to overcome the tidal wave of GOP garbage propaganda...

Apparently Dems are so stupid and useless, they only got 1 thing done in 16 years.

It's obvious they should never be elected to national office ever again.

 

[francoHFW]

I say do the nuclear option, the more the Republicans can do the less people like them, and the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them. Hasn't happened in 50 years the Democrats have been able to do anyting. Except for a couple of weeks under Obama.

the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them.

Yeah, that's why after 2 years of Clinton, the Republicans won 10 more seats in the Senate and gained 54 seats in the House to gain control for the first time since 1954.

That's why after 2 years of Obama, the Republicans won 6 more seats in the Senate and gained 63 seats (holy shit!) in the House.

Moron!

It always takes time to overcome the tidal wave of GOP garbage propaganda... Jobs jobs jobs my ass. The GOP did nothing but obstruct Clinton and Obama, except for ACA where they had 60 votes to overcome the obstruction for a few weeks. The country is desperate for democratic control like we had under LBJ, and not in the middle of another corrupt GOP economic meltdown....

It always takes time to overcome the tidal wave of GOP garbage propaganda...

Apparently Dems are so stupid and useless, they only got 1 thing done in 16 years.

It's obvious they should never be elected to national office ever again.

They got 2 things done by passing them in Congress. They did plenty of other things to help people, but the 35 year old GOP give away to the rich continued... Though he did raise the top rate 5% and had a tax on the rich in ACA...

 

[Andylusion]

Neither party wants to eliminate the filibuster on legislation because whenever the Senate changes hands...the minority would have ZERO power and all sorts of heinous legislation would pass and then be rescinded with the next change of control.

I actually kind of support that.

Granted it is mostly the left-wing that does this, however.....

Both parties tend to get into power, and then they play this game where they do not do what they claim they should do, and then claim it was the other party that prevented them from doing all this good stuff.

It's gets really old.

The classic example for me, is all the left-wingers screaming about how we need infrastructure spending. I look at 2009 and 2010, and see how the left-wingers had complete control of the entire government. They had the House, the Senate, and the POTUS. They had 100% power. They used that power to pass this massive spending bill, and then they ran $1 Trillion dollar deficits for 4 years.

After it was all said and done, we're told that they didn't fix the infrastructure, and they needed to spend more money, and so on.

When you ask "Why didn't you do that when you had control over the whole government" they say... Well..... the Republicans blocked us! They stopped us! They stalled us!
And endless other excuses.

So I honestly have a belief that we should just go back to a majority rule. That way whatever party is in power, has no choice but to own it. No more excuses, no more lying about how 'we really would have done what we said, it was just those evil other people that stopped us'.

 

[Lesh]

The classic example for me, is all the left-wingers screaming about how we need infrastructure spending. I look at 2009 and 2010, and see how the left-wingers had complete control of the entire government. They had the House, the Senate, and the POTUS. They had 100% power. They used that power to pass this massive spending bill, and then they ran $1 Trillion dollar deficits for 4 years.

A big part of the Stimulus you guys fought so hard AGAINST was for infra structure...so there's that

 

[Andylusion]

The classic example for me, is all the left-wingers screaming about how we need infrastructure spending. I look at 2009 and 2010, and see how the left-wingers had complete control of the entire government. They had the House, the Senate, and the POTUS. They had 100% power. They used that power to pass this massive spending bill, and then they ran $1 Trillion dollar deficits for 4 years.

A big part of the Stimulus you guys fought so hard AGAINST was for infra structure...so there's that

So... case and point. You just validated everything I said.

Clearly we didn't have the power to stop anything, because you passed this massive $800 Billion crap-bill. Yet, somehow it is entirely our fault that it didn't do anything at all, that you said it would do?

You just made my point. And clearly we didn't have the ability to stop any of the budgets, because you spend $1 Trillion in debt per year, for 4 years. But somehow it's entirely our fault that all that wasteful deficit spending didn't do anything you people said it would?

It's amazing that you think the minority party has all the power in the world to stop you from doing anything... and yet we don't have enough power to stop the stimulus, the Obama-Care, the budget deficits, or anything else.

Weak enough you can do whatever you want, but powerful enough to stop everything you do from being successful.

How convenient that argument must be. How perfectly useful it is to have a scapegoat for every failure you have.

This is exactly why we need to go back to a simple majority rule. That way these childish blame shifters, will no longer have that argument for their incompetence.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I say do the nuclear option, the more the Republicans can do the less people like them, and the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them. Hasn't happened in 50 years the Democrats have been able to do anyting. Except for a couple of weeks under Obama.

the more the Democrats can do the more people do like them.

Yeah, that's why after 2 years of Clinton, the Republicans won 10 more seats in the Senate and gained 54 seats in the House to gain control for the first time since 1954.

That's why after 2 years of Obama, the Republicans won 6 more seats in the Senate and gained 63 seats (holy shit!) in the House.

Moron!

It always takes time to overcome the tidal wave of GOP garbage propaganda... Jobs jobs jobs my ass. The GOP did nothing but obstruct Clinton and Obama, except for ACA where they had 60 votes to overcome the obstruction for a few weeks. The country is desperate for democratic control like we had under LBJ, and not in the middle of another corrupt GOP economic meltdown....

It always takes time to overcome the tidal wave of GOP garbage propaganda...

Apparently Dems are so stupid and useless, they only got 1 thing done in 16 years.

It's obvious they should never be elected to national office ever again.

They got 2 things done by passing them in Congress. They did plenty of other things to help people, but the 35 year old GOP give away to the rich continued... Though he did raise the top rate 5% and had a tax on the rich in ACA...

They got 2 things done by passing them in Congress. They did plenty of other things to help people,

You were lying when you said it was impossible to get anything done with less than 60 Senate votes.
Good to know.