No, Muslims Should NOT Be Allowed To Serve In Public Office

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Yes it does tell the whole truth. His followers were told to migrate to Mecca and practice his religion. They were told not to assimilate.

That is the opposite of what you were claiming.
Muslims not assimilating is perfectly fine.
There is nothing wrong with maintaining your personal culture.
What you were claiming is that non-Muslims were forced to assimilate into Muslim culture, and that is false.
non-Muslims were forced to assimilate into Muslim culture,
The verse of the Sword comes to mind.That is it in a nutshell. Islam must dominate and it matters not how they go about it. Again there are no positives for the non-Muslim. They are not considered part of humanity. Your texts say so. You need to do some reading.

Of course Muslims want to dominate in Muslim countries, but that is normal self defense.
Would you want someone to emigrate and take over the US?
Of course not.
You want to dominate the US, just as Muslims want to dominate Muslim countries,
I am talking about what Islam says. I could care less what Muslims say. But it comes in handy when they lie.

The Quran is very clear, there can be no compulsion over religion.
Muslims never force anyone to convert or harm them because they are of a different religion.
Jews and Christians have always traveled through Muslim countries without harm.
Muslims harm no one except in defense, and they do not have empires like the US does.
They do not invade foreign countries or attempt to colonize them economically.
The Quran is very clear, there can be no compulsion over religion.
Muslims never force anyone to convert or harm them because they are of a different religion.
That verse has been abrogated by the verse of the sword, along with over 100 others that say anything nice about non-Muslims. Conversion by the sword is now doctrine and has been.

You know nothing about Islam or are just a terrible apologist. Most likely both are true.
 
A year ago, there was a thread entitled >> "Do Republicans believe a Muslim should be allowed to serve in public office if elected?" I'm now answering that by saying No, Republicans don't believe Muslims should be allowed to serve in public office, elected or not. Furthermore, no American should be OK with Muslims serving in public office.

First of all, in America, Islam is sedition, by virtue of it's supremacism, which is in violation of the Constitution (article 6, section 2, part 1-the Supremacy Clause).

Secondly, Islam is an ideology (masquerading as a religion), which advocates (if not commands) the violation of scores of US laws, including some of the most serious felonies (ex. murder, rape, pedophilia, slavery, sex discrimination)

Not only should Muslims not be part of government in America, but Islam should not exist in America, period. There should be no mosques, no Korans, no Islamic centers, etc
You come up with the funniest shit.
what about me?
"With all due respect, you are beginning to bore the hell outta me." Clint Eastwood, Heartbreak Ridge
 
A year ago, there was a thread entitled >> "Do Republicans believe a Muslim should be allowed to serve in public office if elected?" I'm now answering that by saying No, Republicans don't believe Muslims should be allowed to serve in public office, elected or not. Furthermore, no American should be OK with Muslims serving in public office.

First of all, in America, Islam is sedition, by virtue of it's supremacism, which is in violation of the Constitution (article 6, section 2, part 1-the Supremacy Clause).

Secondly, Islam is an ideology (masquerading as a religion), which advocates (if not commands) the violation of scores of US laws, including some of the most serious felonies (ex. murder, rape, pedophilia, slavery, sex discrimination)

Not only should Muslims not be part of government in America, but Islam should not exist in America, period. There should be no mosques, no Korans, no Islamic centers, etc
You come up with the funniest shit.
what about me?
"With all due respect, you are beginning to bore the hell outta me." Clint Eastwood, Heartbreak Ridge
My dream is to get beaten up by Clint Eastwood! how did you know?
 
Red herring. I did not state or imply that it was. Clearly some parts of the islamic world have seen more benefit from secular reform than have others. And clearly even those countries need a bit more.

We need to empower the muslims willing to accept it and spread it. They are losing. See: Turkey.

Of course you did. You wrote, quote:

Which is an example of evil, christian fundamentalism.

And what has happened to the Klan over the last 100 years, as secular and progrrssive reform reshapes the world around them?

And that is what needs to happen in the islamic [sic] world.

Now you want to back it up because I corrected you.
Saying that more secular reform needs to happen in the islamic world is not equivalent to saying the Islamic world is a heterogeneous monolith. That is a stupid point, and you are embarrassing yourself to try to slither out of the discussion by focusing on it.

You seem to be unable to admit the broad brush.

Is there, I dunno, a "Monotheism world" to describe what specifically the Klan does?

Call the microcosm what it is and quit lumping the macrocosm into it. All that finger-pointing does is condemn the overwhelming majority of (Christians/Muslims/macrocosm) who abhor that shit and want nothing to do with it. And that's bullshit.
Pointing at bad people clinging to bad ideas in islam most certainly does not condemn all or even most Muslims. That is some grade a Affleck right there. Complete horseshit. And you do the moderate muslims a disservice.

They need our help. What they do not need is a bunch of lying, misguided liberals throwing themselves in front of criticism of bad aspects of islamic politics and culture like mindless human shields.

Let's put it this way:

Does "the christian [sic] world" need to reform itself because the Ku Klux Klan exists?

Does "the buddhist [sic] world" need to reform itself because of Rohingya persecution?

Does "the jewish [sic] world" need to reform itself because of Baruch Goldstein?
None of the religions you named have open ended commands to kill to advance their religion to dominate the world. When you find those commands to the followers in any other religion let me know and then prove it with that religions literature like it can be proven with Islam.
 
Of course you did. You wrote, quote:

Now you want to back it up because I corrected you.
Saying that more secular reform needs to happen in the islamic world is not equivalent to saying the Islamic world is a heterogeneous monolith. That is a stupid point, and you are embarrassing yourself to try to slither out of the discussion by focusing on it.

You seem to be unable to admit the broad brush.

Is there, I dunno, a "Monotheism world" to describe what specifically the Klan does?

Call the microcosm what it is and quit lumping the macrocosm into it. All that finger-pointing does is condemn the overwhelming majority of (Christians/Muslims/macrocosm) who abhor that shit and want nothing to do with it. And that's bullshit.
Pointing at bad people clinging to bad ideas in islam most certainly does not condemn all or even most Muslims. That is some grade a Affleck right there. Complete horseshit. And you do the moderate muslims a disservice.

They need our help. What they do not need is a bunch of lying, misguided liberals throwing themselves in front of criticism of bad aspects of islamic politics and culture like mindless human shields.

Let's put it this way:

Does "the christian [sic] world" need to reform itself because the Ku Klux Klan exists?

Does "the buddhist [sic] world" need to reform itself because of Rohingya persecution?

Does "the jewish [sic] world" need to reform itself because of Baruch Goldstein?
None of the religions you named have open ended commands to kill to advance their religion to dominate the world. When you find those commands to the followers in any other religion let me know and then prove it with that religions literature like it can be proven with Islam.

Yeah nor is it part of "Islam", you lose, thanks for playin'. :eusa_hand:
 
You are a real nutjob. Yes, Islam is recognized as a religion internationally, regardless of frankie skanky says. Your assertion that "most people" don't recognize it as such is totally absurd. So is your ridiculous description of it. Christianity has real problems itself. Look at the right-wing thumpers insisting that this is a "Christian nation," "biblical law" should be imposed, LGBT folks should be shunned, if not murdered.
LGBT folks are pervert lunatics, and so are you if you don't shun them.

Most people around the world don't recognize Islam as a religion, same as some countries don't (ex Italy, Myanamar) So you think wife-beating, rape, murder, slavery and animal cruelty are a religion, huh ? I hope you have plenty of medical coverage.

You're the "nutjob", and too dumb to know it.
 
They should be called on it. Anyone nominated to a higher court should be aware that no religious test is allowed. If asked, point that out.

I do not give a pass to any party when the violation of the US Constitution is the problem.
This thread has nothing to do with religion.
The violation of the Constitution we are talking about in this thread, is Article 6, Section 2, part 1, the Supremacy Clause, and the violator is the supremacism of Islam, its Koran, and its scores of violations of US law.
 
The US Gov't recognizes it as a religion. Other religions recognize it as a religion.

Insane radicals do not define a religion. There may be bad things about the religion, but it is a religion by standard definition.
The US government is wrong. If the US government had a brain it would emulate the example of Italy which does not recognize Islam as a religion. The whole idea couldn't be more absurd.

I'll go with this standard definition >> Religions have a "code of ethics" (Webster's New World College Dictionary) Now do you call mass murder genocide, rape, wife-beating, a whole list of severe misogyinies, slavery, torture, animal cruelty, and just about every vile thing you can think of, "ethics". If you do you are insane.

And if you don't know that these awful things are part and parcel of what Islam is (its Koran verses), then you're not prepared to be in this thread. You can read these verses further back in the thread where they are quoted
(Koran 8:12....9:5....9:123....4;24......4;34......65:4....etc, etc
 
What IM2 said is accurate for most of the time Western Civilization has existed. To try and deny that means you are either lying or willfully ignorant of history. Your choice.
If you include Nazi Germany, it's alliance with Italy, and a few other things sure, But overwhelmingly, western civilization has been good, and a benefit to mankind, as opposed to the Islamic world, which is a vile, immoral mess, and has killed 270 million people around the world, over its sickening 1400 years.
 
Do us a favor and update the main post with the main points of the discussion. I'm not going to wade through hundreds of vapid replies from a fringe radical. Be honest about it too, dont cherry pick only the stuff that supports your perspective.
NO, I'm not going to do your work for you., You come in here late, contribute almost nothing and then expect people who have hundreds of posts in this thread, to go to work for you ?

You have a search box, and the search this thread box makes it easier still. Use it. The law is US Constitution Article 6, Section 2, part 1, the Supremacy Clause. and the founding fathers who wrote it were not "fringe radicals". You have a lot to learn.

The Supremacy Clause is all over this thread. Stop being so lazy.
 
Um... no, I don't think so. That's a non sequitur.

US incursions into the Maghreb, nay, all over the world but certainly including areas that happen to be Muslim, has been well documented in this thread, right back to at least 1953 when our sterling CIA staged a coup in Iran. That shit brings proverbial chickens to roost. Then we want to jump up and blame ---- religion? Dooooooon't think so.
Maybe if marauding Muslims hadn't conquered more of the world than the Roman Empire at its height, and killed 270 million people for 1400 years, we could begin to peruse your theory. Problem is, all these things DID HAPPEN, and al Qaeda, the Taliban, ISIS, al Shabbab, Boko Haram, Hamas etc are just the 21st century extensions of this worst scourge of human history.
 
Dear OP,

since you are a poorly educated basket dwelling deplorable, i would like to give you 2 examples why you are not only fucked in the head, but you teeter on being traitorous to the very foundations this nation was built upon.

<ahem>

1) The United States Constitution

Amendment
I:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

2) Article IV:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

thank you for the opportunity to show just how ignorant you are,
playtime.
Dear pathetic PUTZ, :puhleeze:

I need not respond to your pitiful attempt at a post, because you have done nothing more than the same thing equally, ignorant posters have done before you, in this thread yesterday, and had their posts squashed about as flat as their cars' license plates.

And at first I actually thought you were going to present some kind of a challenge. Oh well. Shucks. Back to the drawing board for you (but first y:laugh:ou might want to read the thread a bit) :laugh: :slap:

the drawing board - dear fellow *... had the CONSTITUTION written all over it. you don't seem to comprehend exactly what that contains within it. & i don't need to read the thread....or anything that is within it... dearest of fellows * because you ARE clearly fucked in the head *.

* poster who is fucked in the head.
 
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You know what, let's throw out the Jews too. And the Eye-talians. And the Micks. And Bohunks, and Dwarfs, and Limeys and Hungarians. Catholics? Gotta go. Injuns? Send 'em back where they came from. Chinee, Japs, Canooks, all yesterday. Germans, ship 'em out.

Seen this movie before. Wait'll you see how it ends.
One little problem with your post. Those ethnics don't have a KORAN. Try harder.

Yeah, I DO know what. You don't.
A year ago, there was a thread entitled >> "Do Republicans believe a Muslim should be allowed to serve in public office if elected?" I'm now answering that by saying No, Republicans don't believe Muslims should be allowed to serve in public office, elected or not. Furthermore, no American should be OK with Muslims serving in public office.

First of all, in America, Islam is sedition, by virtue of it's supremacism, which is in violation of the Constitution (article 6, section 2, part 1-the Supremacy Clause).

Secondly, Islam is an ideology (masquerading as a religion), which advocates (if not commands) the violation of scores of US laws, including some of the most serious felonies (ex. murder, rape, pedophilia, slavery, sex discrimination)

Not only should Muslims not be part of government in America, but Islam should not exist in America, period. There should be no mosques, no Korans, no Islamic centers, etc

It’s all part of the foundation laid by the Kenyan....to CHANGE all that has been fundamental to America since its founding. You know how Mexicrats roll..they always seek to ‘fix’ what isn’t broke. Change for the worse is still progression in that backward world of LibTardia.
Too dumb to know the origin of liberal.
No Latin and no college

just another poorly educated basket dwelling deplorable............
 
You should know mr Ike womanizer admirer.
Jealous of his and dons vagina grabbing?
They pay taxes Darlin for your commie SS Medicare benefits (which I presume you have returned)?
So what has the dreaded muslims done to you again?
Invented your universities?
Math?
Toothbrushes?
Cleanliness?
10 Things You Use Every Day That Are Invented by Muslims
1. You have zero evidence that either Ike or Don ever grabbed anyone's vagina.

2. I don't receive a dime from medicare. My medical care comes from the VA (all free)

3. Who cares what a Muslim invented ? What matters is their supremacist ideology, outlawed by Article 6 , Section 2, part 1 of the Constitution, and the scores of other US laws their ideology tells them to break.

Strike 1…….Strike 2......Strike 3.

^ My medical care comes from the VA (all free)

SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
A year ago, there was a thread entitled >> "Do Republicans believe a Muslim should be allowed to serve in public office if elected?" I'm now answering that by saying No, Republicans don't believe Muslims should be allowed to serve in public office, elected or not. Furthermore, no American should be OK with Muslims serving in public office.

First of all, in America, Islam is sedition, by virtue of it's supremacism, which is in violation of the Constitution (article 6, section 2, part 1-the Supremacy Clause).

Secondly, Islam is an ideology (masquerading as a religion), which advocates (if not commands) the violation of scores of US laws, including some of the most serious felonies (ex. murder, rape, pedophilia, slavery, sex discrimination)

Not only should Muslims not be part of government in America, but Islam should not exist in America, period. There should be no mosques, no Korans, no Islamic centers, etc

You know what, let's throw out the Jews too. And the Eye-talians. And the Micks. And Bohunks, and Dwarfs, and Limeys and Hungarians. Catholics? Gotta go. Injuns? Send 'em back where they came from. Chinee, Japs, Canooks, all yesterday. Germans, ship 'em out.

Seen this movie before. Wait'll you see how it ends.
Nothing wrong with any on your list, just as long as they are willing to assimilate, obey our laws, be peaceful, not undermine our government and citizenry. If these things can't be met honestly, then anyone be it a group who agree's in violating our traditions and laws or be it an individual violating such things yes should be cast out.
 
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