No One Has a Right to Health Care

[Tom Horn]

After reading this thread I believe the word "right" is the problem. Of course there is no Constitutional "right" to healthcare. But there is a societal mandate that our citizens have access to some sort of medical help. Before Barry-Care, that help was only at an expensive ER in a hospital....and that's absurd even if it weren't illegals using it. There have to be some sort of free clinics for the poor and unemployed that could be run by young doctors instead of or part of their residencies before becoming licensed MD's. Free or low cost dental clinics should also be put together as teeth problems can quickly escalate into major infections. This isn't hard....we could put up dozens of clinics in a matter of weeks for the cost of one B-1 bomber or what the Feds just fined Goldman Sachs.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

those things are in the constitution as requirements.
healthcare is not a right.

Nowhere does the constitution say anything about spending unlimited amounts on defense and prisons

Beyond that it amounts to priorities

The Constitution does charge our representatives with the protection of the citizens. That's why we have military and prisons although all of our prisons (except federal prisons) are run by the state.

For a country that hasn't had a foreign country invade in 200 years, we have flexibility in what we need for defense

We have more citizens in jail than any nation on earth

Yet, we complain we can't afford healthcare...it is a matter of national priorities

So what should we do, empty out our jails, put criminals back out into the street, all so we could have healthcare?

I have a better idea: make jails jail again and maybe more people will be afraid to go there.

Sounds like a plan

If we were not so obsessed with preventing people from using illegal drugs we could afford to give them legal drugs that can save their lives

Well we are obsessed with preventing people from using recreational narcotics because many times it leads to criminal activities such as robbery and violence. I don't want these clowns anywhere near my home, my neighborhood or my children. I certainly don't want to be working with them when they are loaded driving around on a tow motor. My tax dollars are supporting enough lowlifes without making drugs legal which would create more drug users and they would eventually end up on welfare, Medicaid and a number of other expensive social programs.

 

[Contumacious]

The issue is LIBERTY.

Tell us about the LIBERTY of a newborn with a heart defect whom the likes of you would allow to die.

LISTEN YOU LOW LIFE SCUMBAG

THE NATION IS BANKRUPT - 18 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTRILLION DOLLARS IN THE HOLE

IS THE NATION GOES DOWN AS SOMALIA, ET AL, WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO BE HELPED

HOW WILL FULL BLOWN SOCIALISM HELP THE SITUATION?


.WHY DON"T YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS CREATE A COMMUNE SOMEWHERE AND LIVE HAPPY EVER AFTER- WHY DO YOU HAVE CREATE MISERY FOR EVERYONE? FOR THE ENTIRE NATION?

.

 

[Contumacious]

Will contribute, or forced to? Big difference.

If you think it's a right for people to have healthcare, charity starts at home.

I see you post during working hours. You must have a lot of time on your hands. Why don't you do volunteer work at your local hospital? If you think it's a right for people to have healthcare, do your part in providing that care.

Are you forced to belong to our society?
You can leave any time you wish

However, I predict the society you join will do even more for healthcare

Ahh.. yes.. Obey or leave. The essence of the authoritarian mindset.

The issue is "forced"
Nobody is "forced" to be an American

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

The issue is LIBERTY

Nobody is "forced" to be American.


But if you accept being an American, you accept the Constitution (1787)

Under the Constitution you can be helped VOLUNTARILY or

you can steal or manipulate the government to steal for you

It will be up to taxpayers and or producers to stand their ground at any time and use VIOLENCE to terminate your tendencies.


.

In the declaration of independence, it says we have certain God-given, unalienable, rights.

Do you reject that premise?

If not, tell us what those rights are.

LIFE, LIBERTY. PROPERTY, THE PURSUE OF HAPPINESS

BUT NONE OF THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN TO YOU BY TAXPAYERS, YOUR NEIGHBORS, THE PRODUCERS

 

[rightwinger]

Nowhere does the constitution say anything about spending unlimited amounts on defense and prisons

Beyond that it amounts to priorities

The Constitution does charge our representatives with the protection of the citizens. That's why we have military and prisons although all of our prisons (except federal prisons) are run by the state.

For a country that hasn't had a foreign country invade in 200 years, we have flexibility in what we need for defense

We have more citizens in jail than any nation on earth

Yet, we complain we can't afford healthcare...it is a matter of national priorities

So what should we do, empty out our jails, put criminals back out into the street, all so we could have healthcare?

I have a better idea: make jails jail again and maybe more people will be afraid to go there.

Sounds like a plan

If we were not so obsessed with preventing people from using illegal drugs we could afford to give them legal drugs that can save their lives

Well we are obsessed with preventing people from using recreational narcotics because many times it leads to criminal activities such as robbery and violence. I don't want these clowns anywhere near my home, my neighborhood or my children. I certainly don't want to be working with them when they are loaded driving around on a tow motor. My tax dollars are supporting enough lowlifes without making drugs legal which would create more drug users and they would eventually end up on welfare, Medicaid and a number of other expensive social programs.

One of the many trade offs we make in our society

Our inordinate fear of drugs has led us to building the largest prison system in the world to "keep us safe"

Money that would be better spent to "keep us healthy"

 

[Contumacious]

Will contribute, or forced to? Big difference.

If you think it's a right for people to have healthcare, charity starts at home.

I see you post during working hours. You must have a lot of time on your hands. Why don't you do volunteer work at your local hospital? If you think it's a right for people to have healthcare, do your part in providing that care.

Are you forced to belong to our society?
You can leave any time you wish

However, I predict the society you join will do even more for healthcare

Ahh.. yes.. Obey or leave. The essence of the authoritarian mindset.

The issue is "forced"
Nobody is "forced" to be an American

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

The issue is LIBERTY

Nobody is "forced" to be American.


But if you accept being an American, you accept the Constitution (1787)

Under the Constitution you can be helped VOLUNTARILY or

you can steal or manipulate the government to steal for you

It will be up to taxpayers and or producers to stand their ground at any time and use VIOLENCE to terminate your tendencies.


.

What you posted is an insult to Liberty

Liberty gives you the same right to vote as everyone else. Just because most Americans vote against your twisted ideas is not an affront on your Liberty

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

 

[rightwinger]

Are you forced to belong to our society?
You can leave any time you wish

However, I predict the society you join will do even more for healthcare

Ahh.. yes.. Obey or leave. The essence of the authoritarian mindset.

The issue is "forced"
Nobody is "forced" to be an American

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

The issue is LIBERTY

Nobody is "forced" to be American.


But if you accept being an American, you accept the Constitution (1787)

Under the Constitution you can be helped VOLUNTARILY or

you can steal or manipulate the government to steal for you

It will be up to taxpayers and or producers to stand their ground at any time and use VIOLENCE to terminate your tendencies.


.

What you posted is an insult to Liberty

Liberty gives you the same right to vote as everyone else. Just because most Americans vote against your twisted ideas is not an affront on your Liberty

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

Caps Lock does nothing to enhance your argument

 

[Arianrhod]

The issue is LIBERTY.

Tell us about the LIBERTY of a newborn with a heart defect whom the likes of you would allow to die.

LISTEN YOU LOW LIFE SCUMBAG

THE NATION IS BANKRUPT - 18 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTRILLION DOLLARS IN THE HOLE

IS THE NATION GOES DOWN AS SOMALIA, ET AL, WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO BE HELPED

HOW WILL FULL BLOWN SOCIALISM HELP THE SITUATION?


.WHY DON"T YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS CREATE A COMMUNE SOMEWHERE AND LIVE HAPPY EVER AFTER- WHY DO YOU HAVE CREATE MISERY FOR EVERYONE? FOR THE ENTIRE NATION?

.

You should start a Go Fund Me page so you can buy a keyboard where the shift lock isn't stuck.

 

[Contumacious]

Ahh.. yes.. Obey or leave. The essence of the authoritarian mindset.

The issue is "forced"
Nobody is "forced" to be an American

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

The issue is LIBERTY

Nobody is "forced" to be American.


But if you accept being an American, you accept the Constitution (1787)

Under the Constitution you can be helped VOLUNTARILY or

you can steal or manipulate the government to steal for you

It will be up to taxpayers and or producers to stand their ground at any time and use VIOLENCE to terminate your tendencies.


.

What you posted is an insult to Liberty

Liberty gives you the same right to vote as everyone else. Just because most Americans vote against your twisted ideas is not an affront on your Liberty

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

Caps Lock does nothing to enhance your argument

I FIND THAT CAPS LOCK ENHANCE MY ARGUMENT:

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

.

 

[Arianrhod]

The issue is "forced"
Nobody is "forced" to be an American

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

The issue is LIBERTY

Nobody is "forced" to be American.


But if you accept being an American, you accept the Constitution (1787)

Under the Constitution you can be helped VOLUNTARILY or

you can steal or manipulate the government to steal for you

It will be up to taxpayers and or producers to stand their ground at any time and use VIOLENCE to terminate your tendencies.


.

What you posted is an insult to Liberty

Liberty gives you the same right to vote as everyone else. Just because most Americans vote against your twisted ideas is not an affront on your Liberty

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

Caps Lock does nothing to enhance your argument

I FIND THAT CAPS LOCK ENHANCE MY ARGUMENT:

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

.

But it's okay for pain management, huh?

 

[rightwinger]

The issue is "forced"
Nobody is "forced" to be an American

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

The issue is LIBERTY

Nobody is "forced" to be American.


But if you accept being an American, you accept the Constitution (1787)

Under the Constitution you can be helped VOLUNTARILY or

you can steal or manipulate the government to steal for you

It will be up to taxpayers and or producers to stand their ground at any time and use VIOLENCE to terminate your tendencies.


.

What you posted is an insult to Liberty

Liberty gives you the same right to vote as everyone else. Just because most Americans vote against your twisted ideas is not an affront on your Liberty

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

Caps Lock does nothing to enhance your argument

I FIND THAT CAPS LOCK ENHANCE MY ARGUMENT:

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

.

Double down on....I'm an asshole

 

[Contumacious]

The issue is LIBERTY

Nobody is "forced" to be American.


But if you accept being an American, you accept the Constitution (1787)

Under the Constitution you can be helped VOLUNTARILY or

you can steal or manipulate the government to steal for you

It will be up to taxpayers and or producers to stand their ground at any time and use VIOLENCE to terminate your tendencies.


.

What you posted is an insult to Liberty

Liberty gives you the same right to vote as everyone else. Just because most Americans vote against your twisted ideas is not an affront on your Liberty

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

Caps Lock does nothing to enhance your argument

I FIND THAT CAPS LOCK ENHANCE MY ARGUMENT:

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

.

But it's okay for pain management, huh?

WUT?

CAN YOU POST AGAIN .......IN ENGLISH?

.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Are you forced to belong to our society?
You can leave any time you wish

However, I predict the society you join will do even more for healthcare

Ahh.. yes.. Obey or leave. The essence of the authoritarian mindset.

The issue is "forced"
Nobody is "forced" to be an American

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

The issue is LIBERTY

Nobody is "forced" to be American.


But if you accept being an American, you accept the Constitution (1787)

Under the Constitution you can be helped VOLUNTARILY or

you can steal or manipulate the government to steal for you

It will be up to taxpayers and or producers to stand their ground at any time and use VIOLENCE to terminate your tendencies.


.

In the declaration of independence, it says we have certain God-given, unalienable, rights.

Do you reject that premise?

If not, tell us what those rights are.

LIFE, LIBERTY. PROPERTY, THE PURSUE OF HAPPINESS

BUT NONE OF THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN TO YOU BY TAXPAYERS, YOUR NEIGHBORS, THE PRODUCERS

Says who?

 

[Arianrhod]

What you posted is an insult to Liberty

Liberty gives you the same right to vote as everyone else. Just because most Americans vote against your twisted ideas is not an affront on your Liberty

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

Caps Lock does nothing to enhance your argument

I FIND THAT CAPS LOCK ENHANCE MY ARGUMENT:

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

.

But it's okay for pain management, huh?

WUT?

CAN YOU POST AGAIN .......IN ENGLISH?

.

Forgot your own thread already?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The Constitution does charge our representatives with the protection of the citizens. That's why we have military and prisons although all of our prisons (except federal prisons) are run by the state.

For a country that hasn't had a foreign country invade in 200 years, we have flexibility in what we need for defense

We have more citizens in jail than any nation on earth

Yet, we complain we can't afford healthcare...it is a matter of national priorities

So what should we do, empty out our jails, put criminals back out into the street, all so we could have healthcare?

I have a better idea: make jails jail again and maybe more people will be afraid to go there.

Sounds like a plan

If we were not so obsessed with preventing people from using illegal drugs we could afford to give them legal drugs that can save their lives

Well we are obsessed with preventing people from using recreational narcotics because many times it leads to criminal activities such as robbery and violence. I don't want these clowns anywhere near my home, my neighborhood or my children. I certainly don't want to be working with them when they are loaded driving around on a tow motor. My tax dollars are supporting enough lowlifes without making drugs legal which would create more drug users and they would eventually end up on welfare, Medicaid and a number of other expensive social programs.

One of the many trade offs we make in our society

Our inordinate fear of drugs has led us to building the largest prison system in the world to "keep us safe"

Money that would be better spent to "keep us healthy"

I guess that would depend on what experience one has with drugs.

I lost rent on two tenants who started to use drugs that were otherwise good tenants. Had to kick them both out. Another one got involved with a dirty drug deal and my house ended up catching fire mysteriously; $80,000 in damages and I was out of a home for five months.

I lost two friends in my life to pot. They both became delusional and started to imagine all sorts of things like their friends were conspiring against them.

One guy I knew was a friend of a friend. He used to steal all the time from people he knew. Finally his circle started to get alarms for their homes and kept him away, so he got desperate and started to rob churches; three of them in one night. He got busted and the judge sent the guy to prison for five years. A few months into his sentence, he couldn't take living without drugs anymore, went into a toilet stall, shoved toilet paper down his throat and up his nose and committed suicide.

This past summer, my cousin lost her son at the age of 28. He had problems with drugs since he got hooked on them at the age of 15. It was a heroin overdose. I seen my cousin just a few weeks ago at the grocery store. It looks like she never stopped crying.

Maybe your experiences with drugs are different, but I don't know anybody that was on the hard stuff that ever escaped. There is nothing in society that we need that badly to multiply situations that I've experienced.

 

[Contumacious]

Ahh.. yes.. Obey or leave. The essence of the authoritarian mindset.

The issue is "forced"
Nobody is "forced" to be an American

But if you accept being an American, you accept the decisions of We the People

The issue is LIBERTY

Nobody is "forced" to be American.


But if you accept being an American, you accept the Constitution (1787)

Under the Constitution you can be helped VOLUNTARILY or

you can steal or manipulate the government to steal for you

It will be up to taxpayers and or producers to stand their ground at any time and use VIOLENCE to terminate your tendencies.


.

In the declaration of independence, it says we have certain God-given, unalienable, rights.

Do you reject that premise?

If not, tell us what those rights are.

LIFE, LIBERTY. PROPERTY, THE PURSUE OF HAPPINESS

BUT NONE OF THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN TO YOU BY TAXPAYERS, YOUR NEIGHBORS, THE PRODUCERS

Says who?

SO WHAT THE FUCKETH ARE YOU CLAIMING?

THAT THE TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS OWE YOU A FUCKING LIVING?

.

 

[Contumacious]

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

Caps Lock does nothing to enhance your argument

I FIND THAT CAPS LOCK ENHANCE MY ARGUMENT:

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

.

But it's okay for pain management, huh?

WUT?

CAN YOU POST AGAIN .......IN ENGLISH?

.

Forgot your own thread already?

I DON'T SEE THE CONNECTION.

.

 

[Arianrhod]

Caps Lock does nothing to enhance your argument

I FIND THAT CAPS LOCK ENHANCE MY ARGUMENT:

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

.

But it's okay for pain management, huh?

WUT?

CAN YOU POST AGAIN .......IN ENGLISH?

.

Forgot your own thread already?

I DON'T SEE THE CONNECTION.

.

Not surprising.

 

[Contumacious]

I FIND THAT CAPS LOCK ENHANCE MY ARGUMENT:

LISTEN YOU STUPID DINGLEBERRY

THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE GOODS

YOU SELECT A REPRESENTATIVE

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACCESS THE US TREASURY AND/OR COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO FEED YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.

.

But it's okay for pain management, huh?

WUT?

CAN YOU POST AGAIN .......IN ENGLISH?

.

Forgot your own thread already?

I DON'T SEE THE CONNECTION.

.

Not surprising.

And neither do you.

.

 

[rightwinger]

For a country that hasn't had a foreign country invade in 200 years, we have flexibility in what we need for defense

We have more citizens in jail than any nation on earth

Yet, we complain we can't afford healthcare...it is a matter of national priorities

So what should we do, empty out our jails, put criminals back out into the street, all so we could have healthcare?

I have a better idea: make jails jail again and maybe more people will be afraid to go there.

Sounds like a plan

If we were not so obsessed with preventing people from using illegal drugs we could afford to give them legal drugs that can save their lives

Well we are obsessed with preventing people from using recreational narcotics because many times it leads to criminal activities such as robbery and violence. I don't want these clowns anywhere near my home, my neighborhood or my children. I certainly don't want to be working with them when they are loaded driving around on a tow motor. My tax dollars are supporting enough lowlifes without making drugs legal which would create more drug users and they would eventually end up on welfare, Medicaid and a number of other expensive social programs.

One of the many trade offs we make in our society

Our inordinate fear of drugs has led us to building the largest prison system in the world to "keep us safe"

Money that would be better spent to "keep us healthy"

I guess that would depend on what experience one has with drugs.

I lost rent on two tenants who started to use drugs that were otherwise good tenants. Had to kick them both out. Another one got involved with a dirty drug deal and my house ended up catching fire mysteriously; $80,000 in damages and I was out of a home for five months.

I lost two friends in my life to pot. They both became delusional and started to imagine all sorts of things like their friends were conspiring against them.

One guy I knew was a friend of a friend. He used to steal all the time from people he knew. Finally his circle started to get alarms for their homes and kept him away, so he got desperate and started to rob churches; three of them in one night. He got busted and the judge sent the guy to prison for five years. A few months into his sentence, he couldn't take living without drugs anymore, went into a toilet stall, shoved toilet paper down his throat and up his nose and committed suicide.

This past summer, my cousin lost her son at the age of 28. He had problems with drugs since he got hooked on them at the age of 15. It was a heroin overdose. I seen my cousin just a few weeks ago at the grocery store. It looks like she never stopped crying.

Maybe your experiences with drugs are different, but I don't know anybody that was on the hard stuff that ever escaped. There is nothing in society that we need that badly to multiply situations that I've experienced.

So jail is the answer to a social problem?

Other countries treat it non criminally, we can too