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Fear of what? Not being able to sit at the side of such an evil and immoral god for eternity?Not even out of fear?
Sure, is that it? Nothing else?If the god you worshiped knocked on my door and said "Hi , I heard you were talking smack about me", that would be very good evidence wouldn't it?
I don't want you to take my word for anything. I couldn't care less what you believe. But you don't really have beliefs. You have arguments against beliefs just as all atheists do because that's all they can do.I see all kinds of things we cannot explain and that your explanation for all those things is that a god did it.
That is opinion not evidence. You want me to just take your word because you think that if I was only as smart and perceptive as you that I would have no choice but to agree with you.
You replied to it in your post after this one.Great, but I'll take a subset, how about the top 5?
Because those are the extant attributes which exist. How do you know I am wrong?You can't define something into existence. How can you tell by His creations that God is infinite justice, infinite mercy, infinite kindness, or infinite goodness?
And lose. Why do you hate God so much?Yes but He would win.
Yes. That's my understanding. Which is one of the reasons Genesis is such an amazing account.Polytheism was invented first. Monotheism was created much later.
He already did. He even put himself on trial for you, allowed you to convict him and sentence him to death. You have a hard eye... as clever as it may be.The answer is the same as it always is. For ding to prove that he exist he must knock on my door and say hello or some type of similar introduction. For God to prove that He exist He must knock on my door and say hello or some type of introduction. I think every atheist in the existence of the world holds existence to the same standard. For example if someone made the claim that ducks didn’t exist, how would you go about proving it to be true? Use that same methodology and atheists will become theists immediately. It’s true. Right? Then should be easy to prove.
Of course not. None of you would. You have all tried, convicted and executed God in your eyes, hearts and minds.But we still would not worship such a disgusting and immoral god.
Not even out of fear. You are way to clever for that.Not even out of fear?
No, they are attributes you have arbitrarily assigned. I say God is 100 feet tall and has black hair. How do you know I'm wrong? I can't prove a negative, can you?Because those are the extant attributes which exist. How do you know I am wrong?
I applaud you for your conviction and zest in convicting the creator of existence.Fear of what? Not being able to sit at the side of such an evil and immoral god for eternity?
I would have no good assurance that such an immoral and disgusting god is not lying about that anyway.
The extant attributes of reality are not arbitrary. They exist in reality and are the invisible attributes of the creator. You are correct that you can't disprove it which means you can't say anything about them at all because by definition you are admitting you don't know.No, they are attributes you have arbitrarily assigned. I say God is 100 feet tall and has black hair. How do you know I'm wrong? I can't prove a negative, can you?
We are made in His image. And we get pissed off. So does He. The Jews in the exodus from Egypt really pissed him off. Then there was Esau:God hating seems illogical to me.
Embellishment not central to specifying the nature of God but intended to make a specific point about and to men. You need to read the books in their entirety to understand how they saw God. Which is very loving and very caring. Any interpretation that sees it different is being misread.We are made in His image. And we get pissed off. So does He. The Jews in the exodus from Egypt really pissed him off. Then there was Esau:
Romans 9:13 - “As it is written: I have loved Jacob, but I have hated Esau.”
What attributes of reality do you believe should be used to describe the invisible attributes of the creator of reality? Because that's exactly how someone who was objective would approach studying reality to learn something about the creator of reality. Unless of course you don't believe studying reality can be used as evidence. Is that what you believe?No, they are attributes you have arbitrarily assigned. I say God is 100 feet tall and has black hair. How do you know I'm wrong? I can't prove a negative, can you?
By his own words.Of course not. None of you would. You have all tried, convicted and executed God in your eyes, hearts and minds.
The original Hebrew has a different understanding than how we view our English word 'hated'. The Hebrew connotation is more on the order of Jacob being favored over Esau for a specific task. God greatly blessed Esau.We are made in His image. And we get pissed off. So does He. The Jews in the exodus from Egypt really pissed him off. Then there was Esau:
Romans 9:13 - “As it is written: I have loved Jacob, but I have hated Esau.”
So it's God fault. Got it. Could you have a larger external locus of control?By his own words.
