No You Do Not Have An Absolute Right To Have Certain Types Of Or The Carrying Of Firearms

[g5000]

In Texas we have open carry now and things are just fine. No wild west shootouts are happening like the libtards and dummiecrats said would happen.

Yeah, you only have 700 firearm homicides each year in Texas, compared to 377 in Illinois (including Chicago).

All by Muslims, of course.

Texlims aint ya heard

More lib character assassination.

A crazy liberal committed attempted murder yesterday, stirred up by you people. YOU PEOPLE are doing this.

Sorry, it's a fact Texas has way more, nearly double, gun homicides than Illinois.

You want to take a single incident and write it large, eh? How come you don't want to do that when an "assault rifle" is used?

Or how about when a right wing loony kills 9 people in a church?


Because you suffer from an idiot's confirmation bias, that's why.

You are full of shit. The facts are that there is no complete reporting of the actual stats, and all of the shit you get from all of the guncontrol pushers is just like the global warming liars stats PURE LIES. Now we go for MURDER RATES. or do you want to change to the complete spectrum of all deaths by what cause, and by what. like the accidental death, LIBERAL "So MANY CHILDREN are killed accidentally with guns each year we must ban them to save all of the children" BS accidental firearm deaths of children is about the third cause from the bottom of the list every year, many times more are killed by drowning. so lets make it illegal for kids to even take baths, and save many times more than a new gun law. Your stats are all twisted compilations from a long line of lies and propaganda by the gun control activist. Any way What difference does it make if a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN has an F16 and a nuke? a criminal or psycho liberal doesn't need anything that can be used as a weapon, not even pepper spray as they have used it many times on innocent by standers and NORMAL citizens.

No, I am holding up a mirror to you hypocrites. You have infected and destroyed the Republican and conservative brands and I want you out of my house.

 

[g5000]

“We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. ‘Miller’ said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those ‘in common use at the time.’ 307 U.S., at 179, 59 S.Ct. 816. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’”

Justice Scalia also wrote:

“It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service — M-16 rifles and the like — may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty. It may well be true today that a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large. Indeed, it may be true that no amount of small arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and tanks. But the fact that modern developments have limited the degree of fit between the prefatory clause and the protected right cannot change our interpretation of the right.”

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjZ4oTAvcDUAhUBzIMKHVVBAzoQFgg9MAQ&url=https://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/justice-scalias-gun-control-argument/&usg=AFQjCNGSFaggs-G15kcyTS8oO4Bcio9tiQ&sig2=_z6ec0jGImhSGUdZGmsLUw

All I want is to keep a 6 shot revolver in my own apartment. NYC says to do that I have to pay $600 or so in fees, and wait up to 6 months to get a license to do so.

Why should I give a rats ass about "any weapon I want" when gun grabbing fucks like you in government enforce the above?

I'm not in the government. I also am a gun owner. You should be able to keep a gun in your home for protection.

You should also be able to keep a gun in your home for fun.

The point if the thread is the Supreme Court ruled in Heller v DC that while you have a right to own a gun in your home for protection, or for hunting and sport shooting, the states and localities can make laws prohibiting the concealed and open carry of firearms in certain instances, and in certain places, and prohibit the types of firearms that may be sold or possessed in those localities.

You have seriously misunderstood the meaning of Heller.

Seriously.

No you as usual try to make words extend to cover your desired action when they ABSOLUTELY DO NOT.

You have incredibly poor comprehension.

Do you disagree that you should be able to keep a gun in your home for fun? Really?

 

[miketx]

Yeah, you only have 700 firearm homicides each year in Texas, compared to 377 in Illinois (including Chicago).

All by Muslims, of course.

Texlims aint ya heard

More lib character assassination.

A crazy liberal committed attempted murder yesterday, stirred up by you people. YOU PEOPLE are doing this.

Sorry, it's a fact Texas has way more, nearly double, gun homicides than Illinois.

You want to take a single incident and write it large, eh? How come you don't want to do that when an "assault rifle" is used?

Or how about when a right wing loony kills 9 people in a church?


Because you suffer from an idiot's confirmation bias, that's why.

You are full of shit. The facts are that there is no complete reporting of the actual stats, and all of the shit you get from all of the guncontrol pushers is just like the global warming liars stats PURE LIES. Now we go for MURDER RATES. or do you want to change to the complete spectrum of all deaths by what cause, and by what. like the accidental death, LIBERAL "So MANY CHILDREN are killed accidentally with guns each year we must ban them to save all of the children" BS accidental firearm deaths of children is about the third cause from the bottom of the list every year, many times more are killed by drowning. so lets make it illegal for kids to even take baths, and save many times more than a new gun law. Your stats are all twisted compilations from a long line of lies and propaganda by the gun control activist. Any way What difference does it make if a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN has an F16 and a nuke? a criminal or psycho liberal doesn't need anything that can be used as a weapon, not even pepper spray as they have used it many times on innocent by standers and NORMAL citizens.

No, I am holding up a mirror to you hypocrites. You have infected and destroyed the Republican and conservative brands and I want you out of my house.

You are lying and deflection. It's all you ever do. Liberals are committing violent crimes all over the country because they can't get there way. You are responsible.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I carry much of the time but not when visiting schools or government installations. I do carry a weapon to church. Pastor does, too.

? That's kind of sad.

Why would it be sad.......

Was it sad that the members of Congress didn't have guns yesterday? And the only thing that saved them was the Whip was able to attend practice? Do you realize that the Whip rarely makes those early morning practices, and that it was a miracle that he was there...with his armed security?

Oh, for Pete's sake, 2AGuy, pay attention. Jake needs to carry in church? You'd think church was for quiet thoughtful peaceful meditation, not looking over your shoulder and keeping your handgun ready to fire. That's what we were discussing, not a public park.

Do you think the victims that Dylann Roof murdered in church would have like to have had handguns ready to fire?

They probably would have liked Dylan Roof not to have one. In some countries, that's the way of things.

He was a criminal. They can always get guns.

 

[g5000]

Texlims aint ya heard

More lib character assassination.

A crazy liberal committed attempted murder yesterday, stirred up by you people. YOU PEOPLE are doing this.

Sorry, it's a fact Texas has way more, nearly double, gun homicides than Illinois.

You want to take a single incident and write it large, eh? How come you don't want to do that when an "assault rifle" is used?

Or how about when a right wing loony kills 9 people in a church?


Because you suffer from an idiot's confirmation bias, that's why.

You are full of shit. The facts are that there is no complete reporting of the actual stats, and all of the shit you get from all of the guncontrol pushers is just like the global warming liars stats PURE LIES. Now we go for MURDER RATES. or do you want to change to the complete spectrum of all deaths by what cause, and by what. like the accidental death, LIBERAL "So MANY CHILDREN are killed accidentally with guns each year we must ban them to save all of the children" BS accidental firearm deaths of children is about the third cause from the bottom of the list every year, many times more are killed by drowning. so lets make it illegal for kids to even take baths, and save many times more than a new gun law. Your stats are all twisted compilations from a long line of lies and propaganda by the gun control activist. Any way What difference does it make if a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN has an F16 and a nuke? a criminal or psycho liberal doesn't need anything that can be used as a weapon, not even pepper spray as they have used it many times on innocent by standers and NORMAL citizens.

No, I am holding up a mirror to you hypocrites. You have infected and destroyed the Republican and conservative brands and I want you out of my house.

You are lying and deflection. It's all you ever do. Liberals are committing violent crimes all over the country because they can't get there way. You are responsible.

I'm a conservative, retard. Show me where I have ever called for violence against conservatives. Or anyone.

Go ahead. I'll wait right here, c*unt.

You are projecting. You are the one who has been calling for assassinations and mass exterminations.

And it is "their way", not "there way".

 

[12icer]

“We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. ‘Miller’ said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those ‘in common use at the time.’ 307 U.S., at 179, 59 S.Ct. 816. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’”

Justice Scalia also wrote:

“It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service — M-16 rifles and the like — may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty. It may well be true today that a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large. Indeed, it may be true that no amount of small arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and tanks. But the fact that modern developments have limited the degree of fit between the prefatory clause and the protected right cannot change our interpretation of the right.”

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjZ4oTAvcDUAhUBzIMKHVVBAzoQFgg9MAQ&url=https://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/justice-scalias-gun-control-argument/&usg=AFQjCNGSFaggs-G15kcyTS8oO4Bcio9tiQ&sig2=_z6ec0jGImhSGUdZGmsLUw

All I want is to keep a 6 shot revolver in my own apartment. NYC says to do that I have to pay $600 or so in fees, and wait up to 6 months to get a license to do so.

Why should I give a rats ass about "any weapon I want" when gun grabbing fucks like you in government enforce the above?

I'm not in the government. I also am a gun owner. You should be able to keep a gun in your home for protection.

You should also be able to keep a gun in your home for fun.

The point if the thread is the Supreme Court ruled in Heller v DC that while you have a right to own a gun in your home for protection, or for hunting and sport shooting, the states and localities can make laws prohibiting the concealed and open carry of firearms in certain instances, and in certain places, and prohibit the types of firearms that may be sold or possessed in those localities.

You have seriously misunderstood the meaning of Heller.

Seriously.

No you as usual try to make words extend to cover your desired action when they ABSOLUTELY DO NOT.

You have incredibly poor comprehension.

Do you disagree that you should be able to keep a gun in your home for fun? Really?

No I did not agree with your interpretation of the decision. It did not remove the rights of any government to restrict the right, It did make the right individual, It did in essence limit the actions a government can TAKE to limit the right.

 

[g5000]

All I want is to keep a 6 shot revolver in my own apartment. NYC says to do that I have to pay $600 or so in fees, and wait up to 6 months to get a license to do so.

Why should I give a rats ass about "any weapon I want" when gun grabbing fucks like you in government enforce the above?

I'm not in the government. I also am a gun owner. You should be able to keep a gun in your home for protection.

You should also be able to keep a gun in your home for fun.

The point if the thread is the Supreme Court ruled in Heller v DC that while you have a right to own a gun in your home for protection, or for hunting and sport shooting, the states and localities can make laws prohibiting the concealed and open carry of firearms in certain instances, and in certain places, and prohibit the types of firearms that may be sold or possessed in those localities.

You have seriously misunderstood the meaning of Heller.

Seriously.

No you as usual try to make words extend to cover your desired action when they ABSOLUTELY DO NOT.

You have incredibly poor comprehension.

Do you disagree that you should be able to keep a gun in your home for fun? Really?

No I did agree with your interpretation of the decision. It did not remove the rights of any government to restrict the right, It did make the right individual, It did in essence limit the actions a government can TAKE to limit the right.

Exactly!

 

[g5000]

If you WANT (not NEED) an AR-15, you should be allowed to own one, unless you have demonstrated you are a dangerous nut job who has called for assassinations and mass exterminations.

AR-15's are a lot of fun. Don't knock them until you have tried one.

 

[OKTexas]

In Texas we have open carry now and things are just fine. No wild west shootouts are happening like the libtards and dummiecrats said would happen.

Yeah, you only have 700 firearm homicides each year in Texas, compared to 377 in Illinois (including Chicago).

All by Muslims, of course.

More than 750 people have been murdered in Chicago in 2016, the police said, a 58 percent increase over last year and the highest total since 1997. There have been more than 3,500 shootings in the city this year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/us/chicago-murder-rate-gun-deaths.html?_r=0


You were saying?

 

[Iceweasel]

“We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. ‘Miller’ said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those ‘in common use at the time.’ 307 U.S., at 179, 59 S.Ct. 816. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’”

Justice Scalia also wrote:

“It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service — M-16 rifles and the like — may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty. It may well be true today that a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large. Indeed, it may be true that no amount of small arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and tanks. But the fact that modern developments have limited the degree of fit between the prefatory clause and the protected right cannot change our interpretation of the right.”

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjZ4oTAvcDUAhUBzIMKHVVBAzoQFgg9MAQ&url=https://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/justice-scalias-gun-control-argument/&usg=AFQjCNGSFaggs-G15kcyTS8oO4Bcio9tiQ&sig2=_z6ec0jGImhSGUdZGmsLUw

All I want is to keep a 6 shot revolver in my own apartment. NYC says to do that I have to pay $600 or so in fees, and wait up to 6 months to get a license to do so.

Why should I give a rats ass about "any weapon I want" when gun grabbing fucks like you in government enforce the above?

I'm not in the government. I also am a gun owner. You should be able to keep a gun in your home for protection.

The point if the thread is the Supreme Court ruled in Heller v DC that while you have a right to own a gun in your home for protection, or for hunting and sport shooting, the states and localities can make laws prohibiting the concealed and open carry of firearms in certain instances, and in certain places, and prohibit the types of firearms that may be sold or possessed in those localities.

With the written opinion on the court by none other than Antonin Scalia.

This is no longer a debate to be had. The decision has been made, and that is the final decision on the matter. If anyone violates the laws set in those states and localities concerning firearms, there is no further appeal if you are convicted of an offense.

For any gun owners that are still confused about their second amendment rights, I suggest they read the Heller v DC decision, before they find themselves not being able to own a gun because of a conviction.

fascinating stuff. You are saying lawful gun owners need to obey the laws? Do you have a website so we can learn more?

 

[miketx]

More lib character assassination.

A crazy liberal committed attempted murder yesterday, stirred up by you people. YOU PEOPLE are doing this.

Sorry, it's a fact Texas has way more, nearly double, gun homicides than Illinois.

You want to take a single incident and write it large, eh? How come you don't want to do that when an "assault rifle" is used?

Or how about when a right wing loony kills 9 people in a church?


Because you suffer from an idiot's confirmation bias, that's why.

You are full of shit. The facts are that there is no complete reporting of the actual stats, and all of the shit you get from all of the guncontrol pushers is just like the global warming liars stats PURE LIES. Now we go for MURDER RATES. or do you want to change to the complete spectrum of all deaths by what cause, and by what. like the accidental death, LIBERAL "So MANY CHILDREN are killed accidentally with guns each year we must ban them to save all of the children" BS accidental firearm deaths of children is about the third cause from the bottom of the list every year, many times more are killed by drowning. so lets make it illegal for kids to even take baths, and save many times more than a new gun law. Your stats are all twisted compilations from a long line of lies and propaganda by the gun control activist. Any way What difference does it make if a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN has an F16 and a nuke? a criminal or psycho liberal doesn't need anything that can be used as a weapon, not even pepper spray as they have used it many times on innocent by standers and NORMAL citizens.

No, I am holding up a mirror to you hypocrites. You have infected and destroyed the Republican and conservative brands and I want you out of my house.

You are lying and deflection. It's all you ever do. Liberals are committing violent crimes all over the country because they can't get there way. You are responsible.

I'm a conservative, retard. Show me where I have ever called for violence against conservatives. Or anyone.

Go ahead. I'll wait right here, c*unt.

You are projecting. You are the one who has been calling for assassinations and mass exterminations.

And it is "their way", not "there way".

Your a goddamn liar.

 

[JakeStarkey]

MikeTx et al are the mirror image of the crazy Alt Left.

This nuttiness has to stop.

 

[g5000]

Sorry, it's a fact Texas has way more, nearly double, gun homicides than Illinois.

You want to take a single incident and write it large, eh? How come you don't want to do that when an "assault rifle" is used?

Or how about when a right wing loony kills 9 people in a church?


Because you suffer from an idiot's confirmation bias, that's why.

You are full of shit. The facts are that there is no complete reporting of the actual stats, and all of the shit you get from all of the guncontrol pushers is just like the global warming liars stats PURE LIES. Now we go for MURDER RATES. or do you want to change to the complete spectrum of all deaths by what cause, and by what. like the accidental death, LIBERAL "So MANY CHILDREN are killed accidentally with guns each year we must ban them to save all of the children" BS accidental firearm deaths of children is about the third cause from the bottom of the list every year, many times more are killed by drowning. so lets make it illegal for kids to even take baths, and save many times more than a new gun law. Your stats are all twisted compilations from a long line of lies and propaganda by the gun control activist. Any way What difference does it make if a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN has an F16 and a nuke? a criminal or psycho liberal doesn't need anything that can be used as a weapon, not even pepper spray as they have used it many times on innocent by standers and NORMAL citizens.

No, I am holding up a mirror to you hypocrites. You have infected and destroyed the Republican and conservative brands and I want you out of my house.

You are lying and deflection. It's all you ever do. Liberals are committing violent crimes all over the country because they can't get there way. You are responsible.

I'm a conservative, retard. Show me where I have ever called for violence against conservatives. Or anyone.

Go ahead. I'll wait right here, c*unt.

You are projecting. You are the one who has been calling for assassinations and mass exterminations.

And it is "their way", not "there way".

Your a goddamn liar.

No, the correct spelling is "their". That's the truth. Check it.

By the way, it is "You're" not "Your".

In the meantime, I'm waiting, c*unt.

Show me where I have called for assassinations and mass exterminations like you have.

 

[OKTexas]

I carry much of the time but not when visiting schools or government installations. I do carry a weapon to church. Pastor does, too.

? That's kind of sad.

Why would it be sad.......

Was it sad that the members of Congress didn't have guns yesterday? And the only thing that saved them was the Whip was able to attend practice? Do you realize that the Whip rarely makes those early morning practices, and that it was a miracle that he was there...with his armed security?

Do you know what the difference between a Capitol policeman and the average citizen is?

The policeman has had a lot of training with firearms.

Most likely considerably less that I've had.


.

 

[g5000]

So here's the benchmark miketx has set:

I hope Trump destroys the world.

Obama should face the gallows, like the Clintons but he won't.

London’s New Mayor Warns Trump: Let In Muslims Or They Will Attack America

Send a team over. take him out.

More lies. Yes terrorists can be gotten rid of. Just kill them all along with liberals.

When a guy like this says others are inciteful, then boy oh boy, he's got a REALLY high standard to prove!




.

 

[g5000]

I carry much of the time but not when visiting schools or government installations. I do carry a weapon to church. Pastor does, too.

? That's kind of sad.

Why would it be sad.......

Was it sad that the members of Congress didn't have guns yesterday? And the only thing that saved them was the Whip was able to attend practice? Do you realize that the Whip rarely makes those early morning practices, and that it was a miracle that he was there...with his armed security?

Do you know what the difference between a Capitol policeman and the average citizen is?

The policeman has had a lot of training with firearms.

Most likely considerably less that I've had.


.

Less than I've had, for sure. But far more than the average citizen.

 

[miketx]

So here's the benchmark miketx has set:

I hope Trump destroys the world.

Obama should face the gallows, like the Clintons but he won't.

London’s New Mayor Warns Trump: Let In Muslims Or They Will Attack America

Send a team over. take him out.

More lies. Yes terrorists can be gotten rid of. Just kill them all along with liberals.

When a guy like this says others are inciteful, then boy oh boy, he's got a REALLY high standard to prove!




.

Kill 'em all. Love you 12 year old emotes.

 

[OKTexas]

Sarah Palin's PAC Puts Gun Sights On Democrats She's Targeting In 2010

Sarah Palin Criticized Over Gabrielle Giffords Presence on "Target List"

Funny I didn't see one persons picture on that map, she targeted districts, not people. More regressive lies.


.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Sarah Palin's PAC Puts Gun Sights On Democrats She's Targeting In 2010

Sarah Palin Criticized Over Gabrielle Giffords Presence on "Target List"

Snowflake melter.

 

[g5000]

Sarah Palin's PAC Puts Gun Sights On Democrats She's Targeting In 2010

Sarah Palin Criticized Over Gabrielle Giffords Presence on "Target List"

Funny I didn't see one persons picture on that map, she targeted districts, not people. More regressive lies.


.

And who represented that district?

A person.

Gabby Giffords.

That district was shot up later.

Mission accomplished!