Faun
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Why do you get so easily triggered just because youāre an idiot...?First and foremost, I admit when Iām wrong and Iām partly wrong because I didnāt see your post with the link to polls ā which you did in fact post.Spits the liar who canāt post the polls he cites.
You asked, I posted.
YOu however are still just vile lying filth.
However, I say āpartly wrongā because while I didnāt see your post with a poll until I went back to look for it after you said you posted it; when I looked at it, I see itās not the poll you were citing.
You tried to pull a fast one but you get caught. Looks like you too are merely projecting when you call others vile lying filth.
In response to me pointing out how Obama disagreed with the Wright comment you kept harping about, you tried to dismiss Obamaās rejection as nothing more than a political response to polls unfavorable of Wright...
...such a poll would have to have come out before Obama rejected Wrightās statement in order for his rejection to have been a response to the poll you claim exists...SUre. After the polls showed that his initial defense of Wright was not being bought by white voters.Obama disagreed publicly with that Wright comment whether you can deal with that reality or not.
Your problem is that Obama rejected Wrightās statement in April, 2007; while the poll you linked was released more than a year after that in May, 2008.
So who the fuck did you think you could fool by basing your position on lies?
Listen asshole, you ask me to find a specific poll from 10 years ago on Obama.
I will find it and support my position on this.
First, for you, here is Obama first response to the Wright controversy where he stood by his Pastor. As I described.
Barack Obamaās Speech on Race
A lot of political back and forth trying to cover both sides of the issue, but it comes down to this.
"And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions ā the good and the bad ā of the community that he has served diligently for so many years.
I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother ā a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."
His advice to white America? This about you, and you need to do shit to fix it.
"In the white community, the path to a more perfect union means acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination - and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past - are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds ā by investing in our schools and our communities; by enforcing our civil rights laws and ensuring fairness in our criminal justice system; by providing this generation with ladders of opportunity that were unavailable for previous generations. It requires all Americans to realize that your dreams do not have to come at the expense of my dreams; that investing in the health, welfare, and education of black and brown and white children will ultimately help all of America prosper."
Tomorrow, I will find the link to the numbers showing how this was not popular. And leading to Obama throwing Wright under the bus.
The first time I can find Obama was asked how he felt about Wrightās comment that youāve been quoting came in April, 2007, about a year before the article you posted...
On the Sunday after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, Mr. Wright said the attacks were a consequence of violent American policies. Four years later he wrote that the attacks had proved that āpeople of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ādisappearedā as the Great White West went on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns.ā
Provocative Assertions
Such statements involve āa certain deeply embedded anti-Americanism,ā said Michael Cromartie, vice president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, a conservative group that studies religious issues and public policy. āA lot of people are going to say to Mr. Obama, are these your views?ā
Mr. Obama says they are not.
āThe violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification,ā he said in a recent interview. He was not at Trinity the day Mr. Wright delivered his remarks shortly after the attacks, Mr. Obama said, but āit sounds like he was trying to be provocative.ā
A Candidate, His Minister and the Search for Faith
So either you can post proof of the poll you claim inspired Obama to disagree came before that April, 2007 article... or everyone here sees for themselves that you are full of shit.Provocative Assertions
Such statements involve āa certain deeply embedded anti-Americanism,ā said Michael Cromartie, vice president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, a conservative group that studies religious issues and public policy. āA lot of people are going to say to Mr. Obama, are these your views?ā
Mr. Obama says they are not.
āThe violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification,ā he said in a recent interview. He was not at Trinity the day Mr. Wright delivered his remarks shortly after the attacks, Mr. Obama said, but āit sounds like he was trying to be provocative.ā
A Candidate, His Minister and the Search for Faith