Obama & Michelle TOLD us they were going to change our traditions...

[Rotagilla]

The mainstream GOP will not change for you.

I wouldn't expect any political group to "change for me".

Once again you try to frame things and then set up a strawman to knock down.


That could be said about any small political group trying to reform a larger corrupt system. Your choice of negative words to describe them is noted. Once again you're trying to frame the discussion with your language.

You disagree: so did the Feds and the Whigs.

In your mind this desperate attempt to link me with the "Feds" (whoever they are) and the extinct "Whigs" proves something?

See? Again you're trying to frame the conversation and set the terms.

No one is fooled by this jr high school debate "tactic", no matter how often you try it.

You catch on quick, it is all Jake does.

If you disagree with him you are a "far right" whack job.

His biggest problem though is that he doesn't disagree with anything Obama does.

I noticed.

It was amusing at first.

The novelty wears off after the first few exchanges and it becomes like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[KNB]

Bush is a fucking war criminal because he lied to start an unwinnable [sic] war.

No he is not and no he did not, you moron.

Yes, he is and yes, he did.

Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB326/IraqWarPart1-Timeline.pdf
U.S. Intelligence and Iraq WMD
The Record on CURVEBALL

THE IRAQ WAR -- PART I:*The U.S. Prepares for Conflict, 2001
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART II: Was There Even a Decision?
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART III: Shaping the Debate

The Torture Archive

 

[Antares]

I wouldn't expect any political group to "change for me".

Once again you try to frame things and then set up a strawman to knock down.


That could be said about any small political group trying to reform a larger corrupt system. Your choice of negative words to describe them is noted. Once again you're trying to frame the discussion with your language.



In your mind this desperate attempt to link me with the "Feds" (whoever they are) and the extinct "Whigs" proves something?

See? Again you're trying to frame the conversation and set the terms.

No one is fooled by this jr high school debate "tactic", no matter how often you try it.

You catch on quick, it is all Jake does.

If you disagree with him you are a "far right" whack job.

His biggest problem though is that he doesn't disagree with anything Obama does.

I noticed.

It was amusing at first.

The novelty wears off after the first few exchanges and it becomes like shooting fish in a barrel.

He rarely adds anything to any discussion, just calls names.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Post material that is relevant, and I can handle myself with the best.

When you hypocrites whine because you get dealt with your own tactics, tough, then you are dum dum dum.

 

[healthmyths]

ACA. That a person of color now can say that they can become President of the United States of America. That we now see clearly how bigoted some people in our nation are. That the extreme conservatives have actually shown that they are willing to be treasonous to the US in order to spite someone of color, actually praising a foriegn dictator for the invasion of a smaller, weaker neighbor, ie, Putin.

Yes, it you disagree with Obama you're a racist!

That's the only possible explanation.

If you disagree with Palin, you hate women

No, there's not a single White American that dislikes this President due to his race, it's all an hallucination....

See this is how poorly people like you counter intelligent dialogue..exaggeration!
I'm sure there are a few Whites that dislike Obama because he is black.
But tell me why 7% of blacks didn't vote for Obama in 2012?
No most whites that VOTED for Obama did so because they ONLY reason to VOTE for him was because he was black!
Almost all people do not like to think themselves racists... except maybe people like yourself.
So without ANY knowledge of Obama's vast inexperience the only reason to vote for him was because they didn't want themselves thought as racists!

 

[healthmyths]

Bush is a fucking war criminal because he lied to start an unwinnable [sic] war.

No he is not and no he did not, you moron.

Yes, he is and yes, he did.

Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB326/IraqWarPart1-Timeline.pdf
U.S. Intelligence and Iraq WMD
The Record on CURVEBALL

THE IRAQ WAR -- PART I:*The U.S. Prepares for Conflict, 2001
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART II: Was There Even a Decision?
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART III: Shaping the Debate

The Torture Archive

32 democrat quotes indicate even before Bush was president that Saddam was a threat!

"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.

 

[healthmyths]

Why don't you Bush BASHERS address the above 32 democrat quotes... especially:
32 democrat quotes indicate even before GWB that Saddam was a threat!

"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998

"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002

"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002

"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.

 

[edthecynic]

In 2008 of all the black voters 4% DID NOT vote skin color as I did not vote for skin color. I like them voted against an incompetent and definitely inexperienced person.
In 2012 of all the black voters 7% DID NOT vote skin color as did I not vote because of skin color.

Obviously a large percentage of Obama voters like you had ONLY one reason to vote for Obama i.e. skin color.

Now that is an obviously racist thing to say!

Only a pure racist would claim that blacks vote Democratic because of the color of the candidate's skin, first of all because blacks vote over 90+% for white Democrats, and secondly most blacks wont vote for black Republicans.

So if blacks vote skin color, as the Right-wing racist Republicans insist, why don't black Republicans get 90+% of the black vote when running against a white Democrat???????

But tell me why 7% of blacks didn't vote for Obama in 2012?
No most whites that VOTED for Obama did so because the ONLY reason to VOTE for him was because he was black!
Almost all people do not like to think themselves racists... except maybe people like yourself.
So without ANY knowledge of Obama's vast inexperience the only reason to vote for him was because they didn't want themselves thought as racists!

It was racist the first time you posted it and it will continue to be racist no matter how many times you re-post it!

 

[Antares]

Post material that is relevant, and I can handle myself with the best.

When you hypocrites whine because you get dealt with your own tactics, tough, then you are dum dum dum.

If you did it would be a first Jake.

 

[Clementine]

If you disagree with Obama when he's continuing Bush's policies, but you still defend Bush, then you're just a fucking moron.

I haven't seen many defending Bush. Just saying. He got viciously attacked by liberals the entire time he was in office and they show no signs of letting up. Even many on the right disagreed with Bush and continue to disagree on some matters. Of course, when Republicans disagree with each other, the libs delight in the "infighting" among party members. They only know following and obeying in lockstep. Agree with Bush, get attacked. Disagree with Bush, get laughed at for being disloyal to party. Agree with Obama, you're fine. Disagree and you're in deep shit.


There are plenty of liberals who were outspoken and constantly attacked Bush and now praise Obama for taking Bush's unpopular policies and putting them on steroids. That is something that fucking morons do.

I don't recall other presidents or first ladies vowing to fundamentally change this country or do away with traditions and change our language. They were honest in an underhanded way. People heard the pretty words and cheered without realizing that the fundamental changes were going to destroy the foundation on which this country was built. The changes in speech mean political correctness will be the new way of speaking. There are many traditions the left hates. Christmas, Easter, Independence Day and our general way of life.

Obama wasn't kidding. The only ones who understood his words were the socialists and communists, who have been hoping to take America down for ages.

 

[Geaux4it]

ACA. That a person of color now can say that they can become President of the United States of America. That we now see clearly how bigoted some people in our nation are. That the extreme conservatives have actually shown that they are willing to be treasonous to the US in order to spite someone of color, actually praising a foriegn dictator for the invasion of a smaller, weaker neighbor, ie, Putin.

Yep, Fox News had Sarah Palin blathering about how manly Putin was compared to our POTUS who wore "mom jeans". Then they put up a split screen with Putin shirtless on horseback on the left and Obama on the right standing in the Oval Office wearing a pair of levis that weren't slung low around his hips.

Fucking Fox Noise is the embarrassment to this country, it really is.

Curious, why do you watch FOX news?

-Geaux

 

[reconmark]

Yes, it you disagree with Obama you're a racist!

That's the only possible explanation.

If you disagree with Palin, you hate women

No, there's not a single White American that dislikes this President due to his race, it's all an hallucination....

No one said that, did they. You made up an exaggerated strawman so you could pretend to be smart and knock it down.

Are all negroes who disagreed with bush "racists"?

Your post is so utterly stupid. please claim someone hi-jacked your account and posted in your place.

Yes, it you disagree with Obama you're a racist!

The statement intimated that ANYONE disagreeing with the President must be a racist, no one ever made that statement, however there are many people who have stated that they would not vote for a Black man.

Learn what a straw man argument is before you continue to mimic what you see on the internet.

 

[KNB]

No he is not and no he did not, you moron.

Yes, he is and yes, he did.

Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB326/IraqWarPart1-Timeline.pdf
U.S. Intelligence and Iraq WMD
The Record on CURVEBALL

THE IRAQ WAR -- PART I:*The U.S. Prepares for Conflict, 2001
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART II: Was There Even a Decision?
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART III: Shaping the Debate

The Torture Archive

32 democrat quotes indicate even before Bush was president that Saddam was a threat!

32 DEMOCRATS MEAN FUCK ALL TO DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS.

The Bush administration pushed FALSE INFORMATION to justify their invasion of Iraq. Bush lied.

 

[reconmark]

Yes, it you disagree with Obama you're a racist!

That's the only possible explanation.

If you disagree with Palin, you hate women

No, there's not a single White American that dislikes this President due to his race, it's all an hallucination....

See this is how poorly people like you counter intelligent dialogue..exaggeration!
I'm sure there are a few Whites that dislike Obama because he is black.
But tell me why 7% of blacks didn't vote for Obama in 2012?
No most whites that VOTED for Obama did so because they ONLY reason to VOTE for him was because he was black!
Almost all people do not like to think themselves racists... except maybe people like yourself.
So without ANY knowledge of Obama's vast inexperience the only reason to vote for him was because they didn't want themselves thought as racists!

What were you saying about intelligent dialogue???....

 

[reconmark]

well you and jakie haven't not my problem...let me rephrase it.. for MOST we have moved past all that and has bent over backwards for blacks, women, etc... but we still get this crap thrown up in our faces
now is that better? if not tough shit move along bye

When then roll your fat ignorant ass down the road..
Anyone stupid enough to believe that sexism, racism and discrimination no longer exist, is stupid beyond words.

Oh I didn't say it DIDN'T exist...try reading I said we've moved on because you will never change human nature..look at yourself for an example
you people on left/Democrats proved all that with Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, and anyone who is Republican and from a state like Texas...now you're dismissed

Can you continue to post replies so stupid that they contradict one another.

First you state that "we" have moved on. Who is "we?"
Then you state that racism, sexism, discrimination still exist.

The stupidity of your rant is simple, if racism, sexism, etc still exists, then people are still being harmed by it.

Did that little bit of logic and common sense just make your small brain explode??

Go eat a twinkie now.

 

[Antares]

When then roll your fat ignorant ass down the road..
Anyone stupid enough to believe that sexism, racism and discrimination no longer exist, is stupid beyond words.

Oh I didn't say it DIDN'T exist...try reading I said we've moved on because you will never change human nature..look at yourself for an example
you people on left/Democrats proved all that with Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, and anyone who is Republican and from a state like Texas...now you're dismissed

Can you continue to post replies so stupid that they contradict one another.

First you state that "we" have moved on. Who is "we?"
Then you state that racism, sexism, discrimination still exist.

The stupidity of your rant is simple, if racism, sexism, etc still exists, then people are still being harmed by it.

Did that little bit of logic and common sense just make your small brain explode??

Go eat a twinkie now.

What a "special" little boy you must be?

 

[reconmark]

Oh I didn't say it DIDN'T exist...try reading I said we've moved on because you will never change human nature..look at yourself for an example
you people on left/Democrats proved all that with Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, and anyone who is Republican and from a state like Texas...now you're dismissed

Can you continue to post replies so stupid that they contradict one another.

First you state that "we" have moved on. Who is "we?"
Then you state that racism, sexism, discrimination still exist.

The stupidity of your rant is simple, if racism, sexism, etc still exists, then people are still being harmed by it.

Did that little bit of logic and common sense just make your small brain explode??

Go eat a twinkie now.

What a "special" little boy you must be?

What a "precious" little girl you must be.

 

[healthmyths]

Yes, he is and yes, he did.

Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB326/IraqWarPart1-Timeline.pdf
U.S. Intelligence and Iraq WMD
The Record on CURVEBALL

THE IRAQ WAR -- PART I:*The U.S. Prepares for Conflict, 2001
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART II: Was There Even a Decision?
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART III: Shaping the Debate

The Torture Archive

32 democrat quotes indicate even before Bush was president that Saddam was a threat!

32 DEMOCRATS MEAN FUCK ALL TO DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS.

The Bush administration pushed FALSE INFORMATION to justify their invasion of Iraq. Bush lied.

BEFORE BUSH??? How did HE influence the above in 1999???

"Between 1999 and 2001, the U.S. and British-led air forces in Iraq dropped 1.3 million pounds of bombs in response to purported violations of the no-fly zones and anti-aircraft fire from Saddam Hussein.

some made BEFORE President Bush was President DID what 90% of us wanted to have happen, i.e. Saddam removed because WE didn't know if for sure he was behind 9/11 NOR did we know he was not behind the anthrax attacks.

 

[Antares]

Can you continue to post replies so stupid that they contradict one another.

First you state that "we" have moved on. Who is "we?"
Then you state that racism, sexism, discrimination still exist.

The stupidity of your rant is simple, if racism, sexism, etc still exists, then people are still being harmed by it.

Did that little bit of logic and common sense just make your small brain explode??

Go eat a twinkie now.

What a "special" little boy you must be?

What a "precious" little girl you must be.

You like Twinkies eh?

Or is it that creamy center you long for?

Why don't you tell everyone just what you stand for?

 

[reconmark]

What a "special" little boy you must be?

What a "precious" little girl you must be.

You like Twinkies eh?

Or is it that creamy center you long for?

Why don't you tell everyone just what you stand for?

You are the ONLY ONE that brought up "creamy center" so tell us do you swallow the filling and let it work it's way through your system or just dispense with the long route??