Obama Now Has the Power to Appoint 93 Federal Judges

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Here's an 'oh yeah I remember that now' moment for some of you:

Remember back when the GOP had the majority in the Senate, and talk of the 'nuclear option' came up?

Remember what the conservatives - fancying themselves quite clever - came up with as the alternative name for the 'nuclear option'?

The 'constitutional option'.

...lol, oh yeah, now you remember...

Carb, did you happen to catch this one?

Here's some fun for ya's

2005:

Liberty Counsel, as part of the National Coalition to End Judicial Filibusters, recently signed a letter urging the the U.S. Senate leadership "to end the judicial filibusters at the earliest possible moment and well before a Supreme Court vacancy should occur." The letter also pointed out that "while it is the right of the President to expect the Senate to give Advice and Consent within a reasonable period of time, it is the duty of every Senator to offer Advice and Consent through an honest, up or down vote."

A number of Republican senators still remain opposed or undecided on the issue. We have compiled a list you can use to call the Senators and ask them to end the judicial filibusters.

Liberty Counsel - Liberty Alert - Print Version

2013:

Washington, DC – Today, Senator Harry Reid invoked the “nuclear option” on judicial nominations, not including nominations to the Supreme Court. Under the new rules change, a judicial nominee does not need to meet the 60-vote cloture threshold and can be confirmed by a simple majority vote.
“Today’s action by Harry Reid is frightening, and every freedom-loving American should be deeply concerned,” said Mat Staver, Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel…

http://www.libertycounselaction.org/data/sites/74/pdfs/PressReleases/PR%2011212013%20Obama%20Stacks%20the%20Court%20in%20Frightening%20Power%20Grab.pdf



That's only half the fun...wait.

 

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Riiiiight... thats what harry reid told the wash post, his position vis a vis 2005 had evolved, he got that slimy opportunistic horsecrap from obamas stance on gay marriage


do you know why there are so many filibusters on judges and on legislation?

2005 is not 2013

Filibuster has gotten out of hand and 60 votes should not be required for the Senate to do business. The Senate is gridlocked and nothing can be accomplished. The filibuster is to blame

End the archaic practice

Remember that argument when the Republicans repeal Obamacare with 51 votes.

I thought the Republicans will put the rule back in place as soon as they get a majority in the Senate,

I mean, the way they are railing against it now with a mountain of righteous indignation, sanctimony, and professed sincerity,

how could they possibly commit such an unprincipled act in the future?

 

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2005 is not 2013

Filibuster has gotten out of hand and 60 votes should not be required for the Senate to do business. The Senate is gridlocked and nothing can be accomplished. The filibuster is to blame

End the archaic practice

Remember that argument when the Republicans repeal Obamacare with 51 votes.

And when is the soonest you envision this happening?

Jan 2015.

 

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That Liberty Council letter from 2005 is da bomb. You have to go to google cache to see the actual letter, because they deleted it.

National Coalition to End Judicial Filibusters:A Letter to Senate Leadership | Human Events

Have a look.
Shortened: To The Honorable William H. Frist,.... As the representatives of millions of American voices, we write to ask you to end the judicial filibusters at the earliest possible moment and well before a Supreme Court vacancy should occur. We believe that short of a compromise that guarantees an up or down vote at the end of debate, the Constitutional Options available to you will serve to honor the Constitution, restore Senate tradition and protect judicial independence....[Constitutional Options = Nuclear Option] (that whole letter is a hoot, retrospectively - read it.)

Look at who signed it:

. Sincerely, C. Boyden Gray, Committee for Justice Kay R. Daly, Coalition for a Fair Judiciary Harvey Tettlebaum, Republican National Lawyers Association David A. Keene, American Conservative Union Gary L. Bauer, American Values Grover Norquist, Americans for Tax Reform Paul Weyrich, Free Congress Foundation Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family James D. Daly, Focus on the Family Tony Perkins, Family Research Council James J. Fotis, Law Enforcement Alliance of America Chuck Colson, Prison Fellowship Ministries Mark Earley, Prison Fellowship Ministries Connie Mackey, Family Research Council Lisa DePasquale, Clare Booth Luce Policy Institute L. Brent Bozell III, Conservative Victory Committee Dr. William A. Donohue, Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights Jim Backlin, Christian Coalition of America Dr. Carl Herbster, AdvanceUSA Ray Ruddy, Gerard Health Foundation Kurt Entsminger, Care Net Dr. Virginia Armstrong, Eagle Forum’s Court Watch Duane Parde, ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) Matt Kibbe, Freedom Works Peter A. Samuelson, Americans United for Life Clarke D. Forsythe, Esq. AUL’s Project on Law and Bioethics Richard Land, Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission Dr. Barrett Duke, Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission Dr. John C. Eastman, The Claremont Institute Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence Jay Sekulow, American Center for Law and Justice James Bopp, Jr., James Madison Center for Free Speech Samuel B. Casey, Christian Legal Society Kelly Shackelford. Liberty Legal Institute Mathew D. Staver, Liberty Counsel Alan E. Sears, Alliance Defense Fund Roy Innis, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) Niger Innis, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) Lanier Swann, Concerned Women for America Dr. Keith Wiebe, American Association of Christian Schools Jeffrey Mazzella, Center for Individual Freedom Brian McCabe, Progress for America Phyllis Berry Myers, New Black Leadership Coalition Nancie Marzulla, Defenders of Property Rights Kevin W. Blier, Center for American Cultural Renewal Steven Mosher, Population Research Institute Ken Connor, Center for a Just Society Rick Scarborough, Vision America Michael Valerio, Vision America Gary Marx, Judicial Confirmation Network Ron Robinson, Young America’s Foundation Michael Howden, Stronger Families Manuel Lujan, Jr., Hispanic Alliance for Progress Institute James L. Martin, 60 Plus Association Penny Nance, Kids First Coalition Charles W. Jarvis, USA Next (United Seniors Association) Dr. D. James Kennedy, Coral Ridge Ministries Dr. Gary Cass, Center for Reclaiming America Mark Sutherland, Joyce Meyer Ministries Dr. S. Dale Burroughs, Biblical Heritage Institute Mike Snyder, The Wilberforce Forum Bishop Keith Butler Pastor Rod Parsley, Center for Moral Clarity Fr. Frank Pavone, Priests for Life Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, Traditional Values Coalition Andrea Lafferty, Traditional Values Coalition Jeff Ballabon, Center for Jewish Values Bill May, Catholics for the Common Good Oliver N.E. Kellman, Jr., National Faith Based Coalition Rev. Rusty Thomas, Eijah Ministries Dr. Paige Patterson, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary Dr. Steve Lemke, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary Dr. Craig Blaising, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Fort Worth, Texas Austin Ruse, Culture of Life Foundation Thomas Glessner, National Institute of Family and Life Advocates Leslee Unruh, Abstinence Clearinghouse Thomas A. Shields, Coalition for Marriage and Family Bradley Mattes, Life Issues Institute Warren Kelley, National Center for Freedom & Renewal Robert B. Carlson, American Civil Rights Union Chuck Muth, Citizen Outreach Jennifer Bingham, Susan B. Anthony List Paul Caprio, Family-PAC Federal Larry Cirignano, CatholicVote.org William Greene, RightMarch.com C. Preston Noell III, Tradition, Family, Property, Inc. Phil Burress, Citizens for Community Values Alvin Williams, Black America’s PAC (BAMPAC) Donald E. Wildmon, American Family Association Stephen M. Crampton, AFA Center for Law & Policy Dr. Patricia McEwen, Life Coalition International Rev. Keith Tucci, Life Coalition International Richard Ford, Heritage Alliance Karen Testerman, Cornerstone Policy Research Gregory K. Blankenship, Illinois Policy Institute Mary Anne Hackett, Catholic Citizens of Illinois Irwin Essenfeld, Renew Illinois Foundation Mary T Erickson, Illinois Citizens for Life Peter LaBarbera, Illinois Family Institute Thomas Smith, America 21 (Tennessee) Tom Brejcha, Thomas More Society, Pro-life Law Center (Chicago) Denise Mackura, Ohio Right to Life Russell Johnson, American Restoration Project (Pastor, Fairfield Christian Church, OH) James E. Barrett, Michigan Chamber of Commerce Gary Glenn, American Family Association of Michigan Len Deo, New Jersey Family Policy Council Dr. Steven J. Kidder, New York State Family Policy Council, Inc. Michael S. Heath, Christian Civic League of Maine Kenneth Endean, Maine Association of Christian Schools Lisa E. Roche, Esq, Maine Right to Life Committee Cathie Adams, Texas Eagle Forum Kris Mineau, Massachusetts Family Institute Diane Gramley, American Family Association of Pennsylvania Dr. Ed Johnson, Minnesota Association of Christian Schools Tom Prichard, Minnesota Family Council Michael N. Duff, United Families Idaho Julie Lynde, Cornerstone Institute of Idaho Chuck Hurley, Iowa Family Policy Center Kelly M. Rosati, JD, Hawaii Family Forum Dr. James Efaw, Colorado Association of Christian Schools Gene Mills, Louisiana Family Forum Sadie Fields, Christian Coalition of Georgia Rev. Reece Yandle, South Carolina Association of Christian Schools Brad Fleming, Maryland Association of Christian Educators Douglas P. Stiegler, Family Protection Lobby – Maryland Dr. Ronald Konopaski, United For Life- San Francisco Dr. Joe Haas, North Carolina Christian School Association Bill Brooks, North Carolina Family Policy Council Robert E. Regier, South Dakota Family Policy Council Kent Ostrander, The Family Foundation of Kentucky David Bydalek, Family First (Nebraska) Len Munsil, The Center for Arizona Policy Micah Clark, American Family Association of Indiana John Stemberger, Florida Family Action, Inc Forest Thigpen, Mississippi Center for Public Policy Michael L. Jestes, Oklahoma Family Policy Council Julaine K. Appling, The Family Research Institute of Wisconsin Joe Bob Mizzell, Alabama Baptist Christian Life Commission Tim Parish, Rocky Mountain Association of Christian Schools. Dr. Ken Hutcherson, Antioch Bible Church, Redmond, WA William F. Large, Alaska Republican Party Hiram Lewis, Esq., West Virginia GOP Dorcas K. Harbert, GOP County Chair, Monongalia County, Morgantown, WV Charles Bolen, Past Chairman, West Virginia Young Republicans Former Congressman Mick Staton (R-WV) West Virginia Senator Larry Kimble (R-WV) Mark Coyle, former Communications Director, WV Republican Party Grant M. Lally, Irish American Republicans Brian McCarthy, Irish-American Republicans Don A. Daughtery, Wisconsin Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Maclin Davis, Tennessee Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Mark E. Foster, Oregon Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Craig Hymowitz, Philadelphia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Jefferson Knight, Florida Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Paul D. Seyferth, Kansas Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Frank B. Strickland, Georgia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter William M. Todd, Ohio Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Corey R. Weber, California Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Thomas E. Wheeler, Indiana Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter William B. Sellers, Alabama Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Brian T. Egan, New York Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Ann Browning, California Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Cameron Quinn, Virginia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Lee Goodman, Virginia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter David Blackwood, Maryland Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Mark Chadwick, Southern Arizona Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Keith Carlson, Orange County (CA) Republican Lawyers Association Rhet Miles, Chairman of the Benton County, Arkansas, Republican Committee Ron Shuping, The Inspiration Television Networks Janet Parshall, nationally syndicated Radio and TV host Martha Zoller, Radio Talk Show Host and Political Analyst (Georgia) Kevin P. Doran, Radio Talk Show host (New York) Mike Siegel, Radio host and author of Power Talk: The Influence of Talk Radio Chris Dickson. “The Dickson/Chappell Report”, (Midwest) Dom Giordano 1210 AM Radio (Philadelphia) Adam McManus, Radio Host of “Take A Stand” (Texas) Dave “Doc†Kirby, Radio Host (Alabama) Inga Barks, Radio Host (Southern CA) Marta Montelongo, Radio Host (Central CA) Vicki McKenna, Radio Host, News/Talk 1310 WIBA (Wisconsin) Brian Farrar, Syndicated talk show host, Michigan Talk Radio Network Mark R. Levin, author of Men in Black Craig Shirley, author, “Reagan’s Revolution; The Untold Story of the Campaign that Started it All.” Carol A. Taber, FamilySecurityMatters.com (former publisher, Working Woman and Working Mother magazines). Victor K. Williams, Professor of Law, Catholic University of America School of Law Clint Bolick, Esq. (Arizona)

(sorry about the long cut and paste. It had to be done)

That list reads like a CPAC meeting on 'roids. Loud, proud Conservatives busting out at the seems to nuke them rules.

Now listen to some of those same doodleburgers screaming Unconstitutional! Tyranny! ARrrrrghhhhh!

 

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Remember that argument when the Republicans repeal Obamacare with 51 votes.

And when is the soonest you envision this happening?

Jan 2015.

Do you have some imaginary plan to remove the Presidential VETO too?

 

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Filibuster was a quaint Senate custom requiring holding the floor of the Senate nonstop.
Then it evolved to where you didn't have to actually talk, you just had to declare a filibuster
Then it evolved to where EVERY bill and appointment required 60 votes
It has now evolved to where you only need 51 votes for appointments
We need to evolve once again to end filibuster forever

Riiiiight... thats what harry reid told the wash post, his position vis a vis 2005 had evolved, he got that slimy opportunistic horsecrap from obamas stance on gay marriage


do you know why there are so many filibusters on judges and on legislation?

2005 is not 2013

Filibuster has gotten out of hand and 60 votes should not be required for the Senate to do business. The Senate is gridlocked and nothing can be accomplished. The filibuster is to blame

End the archaic practice

translation- when it left its right and when its right, its wrong and is changed.


first off its 2002, not 2005 , 2005 was when the vacancies started building up and Frist burped up the nuclear option........ now that the shoe is on the other foot, somehow its different.....sorry thats BS.



Democrats got their break in May when Vermont senator James Jeffords left the Republican party. That switched control of the Senate to the Democrats, who immediately turned their attention to the eleven appellate court nominees then before the Senate Judiciary Committee, two of them Democrats — a gesture from Bush. Those two were immediately confirmed. The rest would not even get hearings. Instead, Democrats began calling for “litmus tests” — explicit demands that nominees state their views on everything from abortion to affirmative action to Congress’s unquestioned power to regulate anything and everything.

But the near lock-down on appellate-court nominations did not end with the 2002 midterm elections, which switched control of the Senate back to the Republicans. It was then that Senate Democrats began the unprecedented filibustering of appellate-court nominations. The most egregious case was that of Miguel Estrada, whose life story was pure American dream. First nominated by President Bush in May 2001, Estrada finally withdrew his name from further consideration some 27 months later, after seven failed cloture votes in the next, 108th Congress.

Things came to a head early in the 109th Congress when Republicans themselves, still in control of the Senate, threatened finally to “go nuclear” — to end the appellate-court filibusters Democrats had introduced only in the previous Congress. That was headed off when the bipartisan “Gang of 14” reached a compromise: Democrats would filibuster nominees only in “extraordinary circumstances,” they agreed, and Republicans would not use the nuclear option. That compromise held for the rest of the 109th Congress — though not without difficulties — but it became moot after Democrats regained control of the Senate following the 2006 midterm elections since they no longer needed to filibuster Bush nominees.


more at-http://news.yahoo.com/filibuster-reaction-harry-reid-nuclear-hypocrisy-184412234.html



Do you know how many vacancies obama started with?



and you need to separate judges from legislation. one thing at a time.

 

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I could get behind this myself, Reid should have called his own gang of 14, worked out the 51 vote rule then decided on an implementation date- something fair, close enough to see, yet far enough to plan for, with a third of the senate up for reelection every cycle, a date like 2018, would be a good point, 2/3s of the senate seats would have been reelected or elected, so Jan of 2019 with that new Congress being seated, the rule would change .

In addition,right now, the gop would allow fully one half of the present nominees and half thru 15 to move forward under a temp. 51 vote rule.

Remembering the fact the rules change for the senate says you need 67 votes, I would have sppted this anyway as its imho, fair to both sides.


Instead Reid ( and the dems) got to eat his/their cake by blocking gop nominees thru 02, filibustered 2004-07, blocked bush nominees in 07 and 08 and now, gets to change it so he can get appointed who he likes.

Thats not fair and , its not 'moderate'.

 

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That Liberty Council letter from 2005 is da bomb. You have to go to google cache to see the actual letter, because they deleted it.

National Coalition to End Judicial Filibusters:A Letter to Senate Leadership | Human Events

Have a look.
Shortened: To The Honorable William H. Frist,.... As the representatives of millions of American voices, we write to ask you to end the judicial filibusters at the earliest possible moment and well before a Supreme Court vacancy should occur. We believe that short of a compromise that guarantees an up or down vote at the end of debate, the Constitutional Options available to you will serve to honor the Constitution, restore Senate tradition and protect judicial independence....[Constitutional Options = Nuclear Option] (that whole letter is a hoot, retrospectively - read it.)

Look at who signed it:

. Sincerely, C. Boyden Gray, Committee for Justice Kay R. Daly, Coalition for a Fair Judiciary Harvey Tettlebaum, Republican National Lawyers Association David A. Keene, American Conservative Union Gary L. Bauer, American Values Grover Norquist, Americans for Tax Reform Paul Weyrich, Free Congress Foundation Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family James D. Daly, Focus on the Family Tony Perkins, Family Research Council James J. Fotis, Law Enforcement Alliance of America Chuck Colson, Prison Fellowship Ministries Mark Earley, Prison Fellowship Ministries Connie Mackey, Family Research Council Lisa DePasquale, Clare Booth Luce Policy Institute L. Brent Bozell III, Conservative Victory Committee Dr. William A. Donohue, Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights Jim Backlin, Christian Coalition of America Dr. Carl Herbster, AdvanceUSA Ray Ruddy, Gerard Health Foundation Kurt Entsminger, Care Net Dr. Virginia Armstrong, Eagle Forum’s Court Watch Duane Parde, ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) Matt Kibbe, Freedom Works Peter A. Samuelson, Americans United for Life Clarke D. Forsythe, Esq. AUL’s Project on Law and Bioethics Richard Land, Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission Dr. Barrett Duke, Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission Dr. John C. Eastman, The Claremont Institute Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence Jay Sekulow, American Center for Law and Justice James Bopp, Jr., James Madison Center for Free Speech Samuel B. Casey, Christian Legal Society Kelly Shackelford. Liberty Legal Institute Mathew D. Staver, Liberty Counsel Alan E. Sears, Alliance Defense Fund Roy Innis, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) Niger Innis, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) Lanier Swann, Concerned Women for America Dr. Keith Wiebe, American Association of Christian Schools Jeffrey Mazzella, Center for Individual Freedom Brian McCabe, Progress for America Phyllis Berry Myers, New Black Leadership Coalition Nancie Marzulla, Defenders of Property Rights Kevin W. Blier, Center for American Cultural Renewal Steven Mosher, Population Research Institute Ken Connor, Center for a Just Society Rick Scarborough, Vision America Michael Valerio, Vision America Gary Marx, Judicial Confirmation Network Ron Robinson, Young America’s Foundation Michael Howden, Stronger Families Manuel Lujan, Jr., Hispanic Alliance for Progress Institute James L. Martin, 60 Plus Association Penny Nance, Kids First Coalition Charles W. Jarvis, USA Next (United Seniors Association) Dr. D. James Kennedy, Coral Ridge Ministries Dr. Gary Cass, Center for Reclaiming America Mark Sutherland, Joyce Meyer Ministries Dr. S. Dale Burroughs, Biblical Heritage Institute Mike Snyder, The Wilberforce Forum Bishop Keith Butler Pastor Rod Parsley, Center for Moral Clarity Fr. Frank Pavone, Priests for Life Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, Traditional Values Coalition Andrea Lafferty, Traditional Values Coalition Jeff Ballabon, Center for Jewish Values Bill May, Catholics for the Common Good Oliver N.E. Kellman, Jr., National Faith Based Coalition Rev. Rusty Thomas, Eijah Ministries Dr. Paige Patterson, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary Dr. Steve Lemke, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary Dr. Craig Blaising, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Fort Worth, Texas Austin Ruse, Culture of Life Foundation Thomas Glessner, National Institute of Family and Life Advocates Leslee Unruh, Abstinence Clearinghouse Thomas A. Shields, Coalition for Marriage and Family Bradley Mattes, Life Issues Institute Warren Kelley, National Center for Freedom & Renewal Robert B. Carlson, American Civil Rights Union Chuck Muth, Citizen Outreach Jennifer Bingham, Susan B. Anthony List Paul Caprio, Family-PAC Federal Larry Cirignano, CatholicVote.org William Greene, RightMarch.com C. Preston Noell III, Tradition, Family, Property, Inc. Phil Burress, Citizens for Community Values Alvin Williams, Black America’s PAC (BAMPAC) Donald E. Wildmon, American Family Association Stephen M. Crampton, AFA Center for Law & Policy Dr. Patricia McEwen, Life Coalition International Rev. Keith Tucci, Life Coalition International Richard Ford, Heritage Alliance Karen Testerman, Cornerstone Policy Research Gregory K. Blankenship, Illinois Policy Institute Mary Anne Hackett, Catholic Citizens of Illinois Irwin Essenfeld, Renew Illinois Foundation Mary T Erickson, Illinois Citizens for Life Peter LaBarbera, Illinois Family Institute Thomas Smith, America 21 (Tennessee) Tom Brejcha, Thomas More Society, Pro-life Law Center (Chicago) Denise Mackura, Ohio Right to Life Russell Johnson, American Restoration Project (Pastor, Fairfield Christian Church, OH) James E. Barrett, Michigan Chamber of Commerce Gary Glenn, American Family Association of Michigan Len Deo, New Jersey Family Policy Council Dr. Steven J. Kidder, New York State Family Policy Council, Inc. Michael S. Heath, Christian Civic League of Maine Kenneth Endean, Maine Association of Christian Schools Lisa E. Roche, Esq, Maine Right to Life Committee Cathie Adams, Texas Eagle Forum Kris Mineau, Massachusetts Family Institute Diane Gramley, American Family Association of Pennsylvania Dr. Ed Johnson, Minnesota Association of Christian Schools Tom Prichard, Minnesota Family Council Michael N. Duff, United Families Idaho Julie Lynde, Cornerstone Institute of Idaho Chuck Hurley, Iowa Family Policy Center Kelly M. Rosati, JD, Hawaii Family Forum Dr. James Efaw, Colorado Association of Christian Schools Gene Mills, Louisiana Family Forum Sadie Fields, Christian Coalition of Georgia Rev. Reece Yandle, South Carolina Association of Christian Schools Brad Fleming, Maryland Association of Christian Educators Douglas P. Stiegler, Family Protection Lobby – Maryland Dr. Ronald Konopaski, United For Life- San Francisco Dr. Joe Haas, North Carolina Christian School Association Bill Brooks, North Carolina Family Policy Council Robert E. Regier, South Dakota Family Policy Council Kent Ostrander, The Family Foundation of Kentucky David Bydalek, Family First (Nebraska) Len Munsil, The Center for Arizona Policy Micah Clark, American Family Association of Indiana John Stemberger, Florida Family Action, Inc Forest Thigpen, Mississippi Center for Public Policy Michael L. Jestes, Oklahoma Family Policy Council Julaine K. Appling, The Family Research Institute of Wisconsin Joe Bob Mizzell, Alabama Baptist Christian Life Commission Tim Parish, Rocky Mountain Association of Christian Schools. Dr. Ken Hutcherson, Antioch Bible Church, Redmond, WA William F. Large, Alaska Republican Party Hiram Lewis, Esq., West Virginia GOP Dorcas K. Harbert, GOP County Chair, Monongalia County, Morgantown, WV Charles Bolen, Past Chairman, West Virginia Young Republicans Former Congressman Mick Staton (R-WV) West Virginia Senator Larry Kimble (R-WV) Mark Coyle, former Communications Director, WV Republican Party Grant M. Lally, Irish American Republicans Brian McCarthy, Irish-American Republicans Don A. Daughtery, Wisconsin Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Maclin Davis, Tennessee Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Mark E. Foster, Oregon Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Craig Hymowitz, Philadelphia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Jefferson Knight, Florida Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Paul D. Seyferth, Kansas Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Frank B. Strickland, Georgia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter William M. Todd, Ohio Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Corey R. Weber, California Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Thomas E. Wheeler, Indiana Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter William B. Sellers, Alabama Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Brian T. Egan, New York Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Ann Browning, California Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Cameron Quinn, Virginia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Lee Goodman, Virginia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter David Blackwood, Maryland Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Mark Chadwick, Southern Arizona Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Keith Carlson, Orange County (CA) Republican Lawyers Association Rhet Miles, Chairman of the Benton County, Arkansas, Republican Committee Ron Shuping, The Inspiration Television Networks Janet Parshall, nationally syndicated Radio and TV host Martha Zoller, Radio Talk Show Host and Political Analyst (Georgia) Kevin P. Doran, Radio Talk Show host (New York) Mike Siegel, Radio host and author of Power Talk: The Influence of Talk Radio Chris Dickson. “The Dickson/Chappell Report”, (Midwest) Dom Giordano 1210 AM Radio (Philadelphia) Adam McManus, Radio Host of “Take A Stand” (Texas) Dave “Doc†Kirby, Radio Host (Alabama) Inga Barks, Radio Host (Southern CA) Marta Montelongo, Radio Host (Central CA) Vicki McKenna, Radio Host, News/Talk 1310 WIBA (Wisconsin) Brian Farrar, Syndicated talk show host, Michigan Talk Radio Network Mark R. Levin, author of Men in Black Craig Shirley, author, “Reagan’s Revolution; The Untold Story of the Campaign that Started it All.” Carol A. Taber, FamilySecurityMatters.com (former publisher, Working Woman and Working Mother magazines). Victor K. Williams, Professor of Law, Catholic University of America School of Law Clint Bolick, Esq. (Arizona)

(sorry about the long cut and paste. It had to be done)

That list reads like a CPAC meeting on 'roids. Loud, proud Conservatives busting out at the seems to nuke them rules.

Now listen to some of those same doodleburgers screaming Unconstitutional! Tyranny! ARrrrrghhhhh!

the dems could have initiated a51 vote rule with a lot more honor and argument and heft on their side when they had a 60 seat senate...why didn't they?

 

[Trajan]

2005 is not 2013

Filibuster has gotten out of hand and 60 votes should not be required for the Senate to do business. The Senate is gridlocked and nothing can be accomplished. The filibuster is to blame

End the archaic practice

Remember that argument when the Republicans repeal Obamacare with 51 votes.

I thought the Republicans will put the rule back in place as soon as they get a majority in the Senate,

I mean, the way they are railing against it now with a mountain of righteous indignation, sanctimony, and professed sincerity,

how could they possibly commit such an unprincipled act in the future?

first of all no one yet has used this for legislation and even if the gop had the exec. house and senate, and no one had used this 51 rule before hand, I would not agree with that, BUT, they don't need to, they could kill obamacare via reconciliation kill it anyway.....

 

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Then you've got Lindsey "Ah do declarh" Graham saying he would put a hold on every single judicial nomination until he gets MORE BENGHAZZII!!11!!

Nothing to do with the nominees. Just hold, cause ghaaaa!

I do remember Lindsey saying that.

Graham Vows to Block Obama Nominees Over Libya Attack Probe - SFGate

Oct. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Senator Lindsey Graham vowed to block President Barack Obama’s nominees unless U.S. lawmakers hear from survivors of the deadly 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

 

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Yeah!!! Reid acted too quickly!!! He only waited for 4 1/2 years of Republican inaction!!! He should have just sat down and let the senate go back into its Repub-induced slumber

 

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That Liberty Council letter from 2005 is da bomb. You have to go to google cache to see the actual letter, because they deleted it.

National Coalition to End Judicial Filibusters:A Letter to Senate Leadership | Human Events

Have a look.
Shortened: To The Honorable William H. Frist,.... As the representatives of millions of American voices, we write to ask you to end the judicial filibusters at the earliest possible moment and well before a Supreme Court vacancy should occur. We believe that short of a compromise that guarantees an up or down vote at the end of debate, the Constitutional Options available to you will serve to honor the Constitution, restore Senate tradition and protect judicial independence....[Constitutional Options = Nuclear Option] (that whole letter is a hoot, retrospectively - read it.)

Look at who signed it:

. Sincerely, C. Boyden Gray, Committee for Justice Kay R. Daly, Coalition for a Fair Judiciary Harvey Tettlebaum, Republican National Lawyers Association David A. Keene, American Conservative Union Gary L. Bauer, American Values Grover Norquist, Americans for Tax Reform Paul Weyrich, Free Congress Foundation Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family James D. Daly, Focus on the Family Tony Perkins, Family Research Council James J. Fotis, Law Enforcement Alliance of America Chuck Colson, Prison Fellowship Ministries Mark Earley, Prison Fellowship Ministries Connie Mackey, Family Research Council Lisa DePasquale, Clare Booth Luce Policy Institute L. Brent Bozell III, Conservative Victory Committee Dr. William A. Donohue, Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights Jim Backlin, Christian Coalition of America Dr. Carl Herbster, AdvanceUSA Ray Ruddy, Gerard Health Foundation Kurt Entsminger, Care Net Dr. Virginia Armstrong, Eagle Forum’s Court Watch Duane Parde, ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) Matt Kibbe, Freedom Works Peter A. Samuelson, Americans United for Life Clarke D. Forsythe, Esq. AUL’s Project on Law and Bioethics Richard Land, Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission Dr. Barrett Duke, Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission Dr. John C. Eastman, The Claremont Institute Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence Jay Sekulow, American Center for Law and Justice James Bopp, Jr., James Madison Center for Free Speech Samuel B. Casey, Christian Legal Society Kelly Shackelford. Liberty Legal Institute Mathew D. Staver, Liberty Counsel Alan E. Sears, Alliance Defense Fund Roy Innis, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) Niger Innis, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) Lanier Swann, Concerned Women for America Dr. Keith Wiebe, American Association of Christian Schools Jeffrey Mazzella, Center for Individual Freedom Brian McCabe, Progress for America Phyllis Berry Myers, New Black Leadership Coalition Nancie Marzulla, Defenders of Property Rights Kevin W. Blier, Center for American Cultural Renewal Steven Mosher, Population Research Institute Ken Connor, Center for a Just Society Rick Scarborough, Vision America Michael Valerio, Vision America Gary Marx, Judicial Confirmation Network Ron Robinson, Young America’s Foundation Michael Howden, Stronger Families Manuel Lujan, Jr., Hispanic Alliance for Progress Institute James L. Martin, 60 Plus Association Penny Nance, Kids First Coalition Charles W. Jarvis, USA Next (United Seniors Association) Dr. D. James Kennedy, Coral Ridge Ministries Dr. Gary Cass, Center for Reclaiming America Mark Sutherland, Joyce Meyer Ministries Dr. S. Dale Burroughs, Biblical Heritage Institute Mike Snyder, The Wilberforce Forum Bishop Keith Butler Pastor Rod Parsley, Center for Moral Clarity Fr. Frank Pavone, Priests for Life Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, Traditional Values Coalition Andrea Lafferty, Traditional Values Coalition Jeff Ballabon, Center for Jewish Values Bill May, Catholics for the Common Good Oliver N.E. Kellman, Jr., National Faith Based Coalition Rev. Rusty Thomas, Eijah Ministries Dr. Paige Patterson, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary Dr. Steve Lemke, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary Dr. Craig Blaising, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Fort Worth, Texas Austin Ruse, Culture of Life Foundation Thomas Glessner, National Institute of Family and Life Advocates Leslee Unruh, Abstinence Clearinghouse Thomas A. Shields, Coalition for Marriage and Family Bradley Mattes, Life Issues Institute Warren Kelley, National Center for Freedom & Renewal Robert B. Carlson, American Civil Rights Union Chuck Muth, Citizen Outreach Jennifer Bingham, Susan B. Anthony List Paul Caprio, Family-PAC Federal Larry Cirignano, CatholicVote.org William Greene, RightMarch.com C. Preston Noell III, Tradition, Family, Property, Inc. Phil Burress, Citizens for Community Values Alvin Williams, Black America’s PAC (BAMPAC) Donald E. Wildmon, American Family Association Stephen M. Crampton, AFA Center for Law & Policy Dr. Patricia McEwen, Life Coalition International Rev. Keith Tucci, Life Coalition International Richard Ford, Heritage Alliance Karen Testerman, Cornerstone Policy Research Gregory K. Blankenship, Illinois Policy Institute Mary Anne Hackett, Catholic Citizens of Illinois Irwin Essenfeld, Renew Illinois Foundation Mary T Erickson, Illinois Citizens for Life Peter LaBarbera, Illinois Family Institute Thomas Smith, America 21 (Tennessee) Tom Brejcha, Thomas More Society, Pro-life Law Center (Chicago) Denise Mackura, Ohio Right to Life Russell Johnson, American Restoration Project (Pastor, Fairfield Christian Church, OH) James E. Barrett, Michigan Chamber of Commerce Gary Glenn, American Family Association of Michigan Len Deo, New Jersey Family Policy Council Dr. Steven J. Kidder, New York State Family Policy Council, Inc. Michael S. Heath, Christian Civic League of Maine Kenneth Endean, Maine Association of Christian Schools Lisa E. Roche, Esq, Maine Right to Life Committee Cathie Adams, Texas Eagle Forum Kris Mineau, Massachusetts Family Institute Diane Gramley, American Family Association of Pennsylvania Dr. Ed Johnson, Minnesota Association of Christian Schools Tom Prichard, Minnesota Family Council Michael N. Duff, United Families Idaho Julie Lynde, Cornerstone Institute of Idaho Chuck Hurley, Iowa Family Policy Center Kelly M. Rosati, JD, Hawaii Family Forum Dr. James Efaw, Colorado Association of Christian Schools Gene Mills, Louisiana Family Forum Sadie Fields, Christian Coalition of Georgia Rev. Reece Yandle, South Carolina Association of Christian Schools Brad Fleming, Maryland Association of Christian Educators Douglas P. Stiegler, Family Protection Lobby – Maryland Dr. Ronald Konopaski, United For Life- San Francisco Dr. Joe Haas, North Carolina Christian School Association Bill Brooks, North Carolina Family Policy Council Robert E. Regier, South Dakota Family Policy Council Kent Ostrander, The Family Foundation of Kentucky David Bydalek, Family First (Nebraska) Len Munsil, The Center for Arizona Policy Micah Clark, American Family Association of Indiana John Stemberger, Florida Family Action, Inc Forest Thigpen, Mississippi Center for Public Policy Michael L. Jestes, Oklahoma Family Policy Council Julaine K. Appling, The Family Research Institute of Wisconsin Joe Bob Mizzell, Alabama Baptist Christian Life Commission Tim Parish, Rocky Mountain Association of Christian Schools. Dr. Ken Hutcherson, Antioch Bible Church, Redmond, WA William F. Large, Alaska Republican Party Hiram Lewis, Esq., West Virginia GOP Dorcas K. Harbert, GOP County Chair, Monongalia County, Morgantown, WV Charles Bolen, Past Chairman, West Virginia Young Republicans Former Congressman Mick Staton (R-WV) West Virginia Senator Larry Kimble (R-WV) Mark Coyle, former Communications Director, WV Republican Party Grant M. Lally, Irish American Republicans Brian McCarthy, Irish-American Republicans Don A. Daughtery, Wisconsin Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Maclin Davis, Tennessee Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Mark E. Foster, Oregon Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Craig Hymowitz, Philadelphia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Jefferson Knight, Florida Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Paul D. Seyferth, Kansas Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Frank B. Strickland, Georgia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter William M. Todd, Ohio Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Corey R. Weber, California Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Thomas E. Wheeler, Indiana Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter William B. Sellers, Alabama Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Brian T. Egan, New York Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Ann Browning, California Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Cameron Quinn, Virginia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Lee Goodman, Virginia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter David Blackwood, Maryland Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Mark Chadwick, Southern Arizona Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Keith Carlson, Orange County (CA) Republican Lawyers Association Rhet Miles, Chairman of the Benton County, Arkansas, Republican Committee Ron Shuping, The Inspiration Television Networks Janet Parshall, nationally syndicated Radio and TV host Martha Zoller, Radio Talk Show Host and Political Analyst (Georgia) Kevin P. Doran, Radio Talk Show host (New York) Mike Siegel, Radio host and author of Power Talk: The Influence of Talk Radio Chris Dickson. “The Dickson/Chappell Report”, (Midwest) Dom Giordano 1210 AM Radio (Philadelphia) Adam McManus, Radio Host of “Take A Stand” (Texas) Dave “Doc†Kirby, Radio Host (Alabama) Inga Barks, Radio Host (Southern CA) Marta Montelongo, Radio Host (Central CA) Vicki McKenna, Radio Host, News/Talk 1310 WIBA (Wisconsin) Brian Farrar, Syndicated talk show host, Michigan Talk Radio Network Mark R. Levin, author of Men in Black Craig Shirley, author, “Reagan’s Revolution; The Untold Story of the Campaign that Started it All.” Carol A. Taber, FamilySecurityMatters.com (former publisher, Working Woman and Working Mother magazines). Victor K. Williams, Professor of Law, Catholic University of America School of Law Clint Bolick, Esq. (Arizona)

(sorry about the long cut and paste. It had to be done)

That list reads like a CPAC meeting on 'roids. Loud, proud Conservatives busting out at the seems to nuke them rules.

Now listen to some of those same doodleburgers screaming Unconstitutional! Tyranny! ARrrrrghhhhh!

the dems could have initiated a51 vote rule with a lot more honor and argument and heft on their side when they had a 60 seat senate...why didn't they?

You mean those few months in 2009 Senate dems had a 60 vote majority?



You're actually serious, aren't you?

 

[paperview]

Yeah!!! Reid acted too quickly!!! He only waited for 4 1/2 years of Republican inaction!!! He should have just sat down and let the senate go back into its Repub-induced slumber

No, didn't you just see? Now it's that Reid should have done it QUICKER!

In 2009. When the flicker of 60 dem votes in the Senate was aflame for all of a few months.

Well before the slew of judicial filibusters even occurred.

You see?

 

[longknife]

Not entirely!

The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee plays a big part in these nominations. He past activities have been to hold up the nomination is both senators from that state do not support the nominee. It is unlikely he will change that unofficial rule.

 

[Dot Com]

Yeah!!! Reid acted too quickly!!! He only waited for 4 1/2 years of Republican inaction!!! He should have just sat down and let the senate go back into its Repub-induced slumber

No, didn't you just see? Now it's that Reid should have done it QUICKER!

In 2009. When the flicker of 60 dem votes in the Senate was aflame for all of a few months.

Well before the slew of judicial filibusters even occurred.

You see?

oh yeah. Thats right. The magical majority that supposedly lasted for a looong time.

Thanks for the 93 seats McConnell

 

[paperview]

Remember that argument when the Republicans repeal Obamacare with 51 votes.

I thought the Republicans will put the rule back in place as soon as they get a majority in the Senate,

I mean, the way they are railing against it now with a mountain of righteous indignation, sanctimony, and professed sincerity,

how could they possibly commit such an unprincipled act in the future?

first of all no one yet has used this for legislation and even if the gop had the exec. house and senate, and no one had used this 51 rule before hand, I would not agree with that, BUT, they don't need to, they could kill obamacare via reconciliation kill it anyway.....

You know executive nominees have always been confirmed with a simple majority, right?

 

[paperview]

Not entirely!

The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee plays a big part in these nominations. He past activities have been to hold up the nomination is both senators from that state do not support the nominee. It is unlikely he will change that unofficial rule.

Yes, it's called the "blue slip." And there are a few other maneuvers the pubs could pull to delay -- but as far as the blue slip courtesy...

Any home state shenanigans can be avoided for future appointments by selecting nominees from blue, bluer, bluest states.

Oh well, if that must be.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

And when is the soonest you envision this happening?

My ability to envision it is irrelevant, I just want all the drooling idiots that think making things worse is a good thing to remember their arguments.

I guess typing "at the earliest, 2017" was a little too painful, eh?

it could happen next year, why wait until 2017?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Here's an 'oh yeah I remember that now' moment for some of you:

Remember back when the GOP had the majority in the Senate, and talk of the 'nuclear option' came up?

Remember what the conservatives - fancying themselves quite clever - came up with as the alternative name for the 'nuclear option'?

The 'constitutional option'.

...lol, oh yeah, now you remember...

What I remember is the Gang of 14 getting together and ending the debate. Then again, you always did live in an alternate universe.

 

[Trajan]

That Liberty Council letter from 2005 is da bomb. You have to go to google cache to see the actual letter, because they deleted it.

National Coalition to End Judicial Filibusters:A Letter to Senate Leadership | Human Events

Have a look.
Shortened: To The Honorable William H. Frist,.... As the representatives of millions of American voices, we write to ask you to end the judicial filibusters at the earliest possible moment and well before a Supreme Court vacancy should occur. We believe that short of a compromise that guarantees an up or down vote at the end of debate, the Constitutional Options available to you will serve to honor the Constitution, restore Senate tradition and protect judicial independence....[Constitutional Options = Nuclear Option] (that whole letter is a hoot, retrospectively - read it.)

Look at who signed it:

. Sincerely, C. Boyden Gray, Committee for Justice Kay R. Daly, Coalition for a Fair Judiciary Harvey Tettlebaum, Republican National Lawyers Association David A. Keene, American Conservative Union Gary L. Bauer, American Values Grover Norquist, Americans for Tax Reform Paul Weyrich, Free Congress Foundation Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family James D. Daly, Focus on the Family Tony Perkins, Family Research Council James J. Fotis, Law Enforcement Alliance of America Chuck Colson, Prison Fellowship Ministries Mark Earley, Prison Fellowship Ministries Connie Mackey, Family Research Council Lisa DePasquale, Clare Booth Luce Policy Institute L. Brent Bozell III, Conservative Victory Committee Dr. William A. Donohue, Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights Jim Backlin, Christian Coalition of America Dr. Carl Herbster, AdvanceUSA Ray Ruddy, Gerard Health Foundation Kurt Entsminger, Care Net Dr. Virginia Armstrong, Eagle Forum’s Court Watch Duane Parde, ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) Matt Kibbe, Freedom Works Peter A. Samuelson, Americans United for Life Clarke D. Forsythe, Esq. AUL’s Project on Law and Bioethics Richard Land, Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission Dr. Barrett Duke, Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission Dr. John C. Eastman, The Claremont Institute Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence Jay Sekulow, American Center for Law and Justice James Bopp, Jr., James Madison Center for Free Speech Samuel B. Casey, Christian Legal Society Kelly Shackelford. Liberty Legal Institute Mathew D. Staver, Liberty Counsel Alan E. Sears, Alliance Defense Fund Roy Innis, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) Niger Innis, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) Lanier Swann, Concerned Women for America Dr. Keith Wiebe, American Association of Christian Schools Jeffrey Mazzella, Center for Individual Freedom Brian McCabe, Progress for America Phyllis Berry Myers, New Black Leadership Coalition Nancie Marzulla, Defenders of Property Rights Kevin W. Blier, Center for American Cultural Renewal Steven Mosher, Population Research Institute Ken Connor, Center for a Just Society Rick Scarborough, Vision America Michael Valerio, Vision America Gary Marx, Judicial Confirmation Network Ron Robinson, Young America’s Foundation Michael Howden, Stronger Families Manuel Lujan, Jr., Hispanic Alliance for Progress Institute James L. Martin, 60 Plus Association Penny Nance, Kids First Coalition Charles W. Jarvis, USA Next (United Seniors Association) Dr. D. James Kennedy, Coral Ridge Ministries Dr. Gary Cass, Center for Reclaiming America Mark Sutherland, Joyce Meyer Ministries Dr. S. Dale Burroughs, Biblical Heritage Institute Mike Snyder, The Wilberforce Forum Bishop Keith Butler Pastor Rod Parsley, Center for Moral Clarity Fr. Frank Pavone, Priests for Life Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, Traditional Values Coalition Andrea Lafferty, Traditional Values Coalition Jeff Ballabon, Center for Jewish Values Bill May, Catholics for the Common Good Oliver N.E. Kellman, Jr., National Faith Based Coalition Rev. Rusty Thomas, Eijah Ministries Dr. Paige Patterson, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary Dr. Steve Lemke, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary Dr. Craig Blaising, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Fort Worth, Texas Austin Ruse, Culture of Life Foundation Thomas Glessner, National Institute of Family and Life Advocates Leslee Unruh, Abstinence Clearinghouse Thomas A. Shields, Coalition for Marriage and Family Bradley Mattes, Life Issues Institute Warren Kelley, National Center for Freedom & Renewal Robert B. Carlson, American Civil Rights Union Chuck Muth, Citizen Outreach Jennifer Bingham, Susan B. Anthony List Paul Caprio, Family-PAC Federal Larry Cirignano, CatholicVote.org William Greene, RightMarch.com C. Preston Noell III, Tradition, Family, Property, Inc. Phil Burress, Citizens for Community Values Alvin Williams, Black America’s PAC (BAMPAC) Donald E. Wildmon, American Family Association Stephen M. Crampton, AFA Center for Law & Policy Dr. Patricia McEwen, Life Coalition International Rev. Keith Tucci, Life Coalition International Richard Ford, Heritage Alliance Karen Testerman, Cornerstone Policy Research Gregory K. Blankenship, Illinois Policy Institute Mary Anne Hackett, Catholic Citizens of Illinois Irwin Essenfeld, Renew Illinois Foundation Mary T Erickson, Illinois Citizens for Life Peter LaBarbera, Illinois Family Institute Thomas Smith, America 21 (Tennessee) Tom Brejcha, Thomas More Society, Pro-life Law Center (Chicago) Denise Mackura, Ohio Right to Life Russell Johnson, American Restoration Project (Pastor, Fairfield Christian Church, OH) James E. Barrett, Michigan Chamber of Commerce Gary Glenn, American Family Association of Michigan Len Deo, New Jersey Family Policy Council Dr. Steven J. Kidder, New York State Family Policy Council, Inc. Michael S. Heath, Christian Civic League of Maine Kenneth Endean, Maine Association of Christian Schools Lisa E. Roche, Esq, Maine Right to Life Committee Cathie Adams, Texas Eagle Forum Kris Mineau, Massachusetts Family Institute Diane Gramley, American Family Association of Pennsylvania Dr. Ed Johnson, Minnesota Association of Christian Schools Tom Prichard, Minnesota Family Council Michael N. Duff, United Families Idaho Julie Lynde, Cornerstone Institute of Idaho Chuck Hurley, Iowa Family Policy Center Kelly M. Rosati, JD, Hawaii Family Forum Dr. James Efaw, Colorado Association of Christian Schools Gene Mills, Louisiana Family Forum Sadie Fields, Christian Coalition of Georgia Rev. Reece Yandle, South Carolina Association of Christian Schools Brad Fleming, Maryland Association of Christian Educators Douglas P. Stiegler, Family Protection Lobby – Maryland Dr. Ronald Konopaski, United For Life- San Francisco Dr. Joe Haas, North Carolina Christian School Association Bill Brooks, North Carolina Family Policy Council Robert E. Regier, South Dakota Family Policy Council Kent Ostrander, The Family Foundation of Kentucky David Bydalek, Family First (Nebraska) Len Munsil, The Center for Arizona Policy Micah Clark, American Family Association of Indiana John Stemberger, Florida Family Action, Inc Forest Thigpen, Mississippi Center for Public Policy Michael L. Jestes, Oklahoma Family Policy Council Julaine K. Appling, The Family Research Institute of Wisconsin Joe Bob Mizzell, Alabama Baptist Christian Life Commission Tim Parish, Rocky Mountain Association of Christian Schools. Dr. Ken Hutcherson, Antioch Bible Church, Redmond, WA William F. Large, Alaska Republican Party Hiram Lewis, Esq., West Virginia GOP Dorcas K. Harbert, GOP County Chair, Monongalia County, Morgantown, WV Charles Bolen, Past Chairman, West Virginia Young Republicans Former Congressman Mick Staton (R-WV) West Virginia Senator Larry Kimble (R-WV) Mark Coyle, former Communications Director, WV Republican Party Grant M. Lally, Irish American Republicans Brian McCarthy, Irish-American Republicans Don A. Daughtery, Wisconsin Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Maclin Davis, Tennessee Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Mark E. Foster, Oregon Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Craig Hymowitz, Philadelphia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Jefferson Knight, Florida Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Paul D. Seyferth, Kansas Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Frank B. Strickland, Georgia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter William M. Todd, Ohio Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Corey R. Weber, California Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Thomas E. Wheeler, Indiana Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter William B. Sellers, Alabama Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Brian T. Egan, New York Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Ann Browning, California Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Cameron Quinn, Virginia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Lee Goodman, Virginia Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter David Blackwood, Maryland Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Mark Chadwick, Southern Arizona Republican National Lawyers Association Chapter Keith Carlson, Orange County (CA) Republican Lawyers Association Rhet Miles, Chairman of the Benton County, Arkansas, Republican Committee Ron Shuping, The Inspiration Television Networks Janet Parshall, nationally syndicated Radio and TV host Martha Zoller, Radio Talk Show Host and Political Analyst (Georgia) Kevin P. Doran, Radio Talk Show host (New York) Mike Siegel, Radio host and author of Power Talk: The Influence of Talk Radio Chris Dickson. “The Dickson/Chappell Report”, (Midwest) Dom Giordano 1210 AM Radio (Philadelphia) Adam McManus, Radio Host of “Take A Stand” (Texas) Dave “Doc†Kirby, Radio Host (Alabama) Inga Barks, Radio Host (Southern CA) Marta Montelongo, Radio Host (Central CA) Vicki McKenna, Radio Host, News/Talk 1310 WIBA (Wisconsin) Brian Farrar, Syndicated talk show host, Michigan Talk Radio Network Mark R. Levin, author of Men in Black Craig Shirley, author, “Reagan’s Revolution; The Untold Story of the Campaign that Started it All.” Carol A. Taber, FamilySecurityMatters.com (former publisher, Working Woman and Working Mother magazines). Victor K. Williams, Professor of Law, Catholic University of America School of Law Clint Bolick, Esq. (Arizona)

(sorry about the long cut and paste. It had to be done)

That list reads like a CPAC meeting on 'roids. Loud, proud Conservatives busting out at the seems to nuke them rules.

Now listen to some of those same doodleburgers screaming Unconstitutional! Tyranny! ARrrrrghhhhh!

the dems could have initiated a51 vote rule with a lot more honor and argument and heft on their side when they had a 60 seat senate...why didn't they?

You mean those few months in 2009 Senate dems had a 60 vote majority?



You're actually serious, aren't you?

between july 8th09 and Jan. 2010 when Brown was sworn in? you mean then?

yes..... or maybe they could have voted right after they got the 60 on Christmas eve, taking obamcare over the top.

yes, I am serious.