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Obama proposes tax hikes on wealthy, Capital Gains tax hikes that will likely backfire as usual

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The liberal political machine is chugging along in high gear, proposing for the umpteenth time that taxes be raised on "the wealthy", despite the fact that they already pay more taxes than any other group. Obama has also proposed an increase in the capital gains tax.

Recall, of course, that during the Clinton administration, the Republican congress passed bills lowering the Capital Gains tax four separate times. Clinton vetoed it three times. And then, faced by an imminent election, he finally signed it, saying it was "broken but we'll fix it later". No "fix" was ever put in place subsequently.

After that decrease in the Capital Gains tax rate, economic activity exploded. Revenue from Capital Gains taxes more than doubled despite the lower rate, and the budget was nearly balanced for three years in a row, due mostly to this increased Capital Gains tax revenue.

Now Obama proposes to reverse that. We can expect the results to reverse, too: Revenue from Capital Gains taxes will likely decrease, contrary to Obama's predictions. How this helps anybody is unclear.

And his proposed tax increases on "the wealthy" will probably result in slowing of job growth or even decreases in job production as large employers have less money to spend on wages and personnel, adding to their increased burdens imposed by Obamacare.

These old, tired liberal "ideas" backfire nearly every time they are tried, resulting in poorer economies, reduced job growth, and smaller paychecks for everyone.

When will the liberals ever learn?

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Obama Pitches Capital Gains Hike To 28 In Simpler Fairer Tax Code - Forbes

Obama Pitches Capital Gains Hike To 28% In 'Simpler, Fairer' Tax Code

1/18/2015 @ 12:36AM

Right before his State of the Union address to a Republican controlled Congress, President Obama has thrown down a tax gauntlet, proposing $320 billion in tax hikes. His signature ideas would make community college free, and would extend sick leave to working families. But his massive batch of tax hikes is unlikely to be met with applause, even though he has cleverly invoked Ronald Reagan’s name to sell yet another big capital gains rate hike.

During Reagan’s years, Mr. Obama will note, the top capital gains rate was 28%. Today, our top rate is 20%, right? Not really. President Obama already raised it from 15% to 20%, and even that isn’t accurate. Long term capital gains today are hit with 23.8%, 3.8% being the President’s net investment income tax that was enacted to help fund Obamacare. Of course, that 3.8% tax is only one of many taxes imposed by Obamacare.
 
I say tax everybody to the poor house! The wealthy will leave the country and the poor will be even more screwed than they were before. The problem with progs is they never fail to NOT consider the unintended consequences. Then, when the world go's to shit around them, they lash out and murder everyone who "failed them".
 
Just tighten that belt another notch rich guy...it's for the good of the nation.......
I'm far from rich, but the BS tax regs that the progs want to enact will only screw over the middle class, because they can't escape them. The wealthy can move anywhere they wish. That's the problem.
 
I'm far from rich, but the BS tax regs that the progs want to enact will only screw over the middle class, because they can't escape them. The wealthy can move anywhere they wish. That's the problem.
Well, the liberals will solve that problem... by banning the rich from moving.

If expanding government intrusiveness and control fails to produce good results... expand it even more! Then it will work great! :rolleyes-41:
 
"Obama proposes tax hikes on wealthy, Capital Gains tax hikes that will likely backfire as usual"

No more unwarranted than tax cuts for the wealthy, which have in fact consistently backfired.
 
I'm far from rich, but the BS tax regs that the progs want to enact will only screw over the middle class, because they can't escape them. The wealthy can move anywhere they wish. That's the problem.
Well, the liberals will solve that problem... by banning the rich from moving.

If expanding government intrusiveness and control fails to produce good results... expand it even more! Then it will work great! :rolleyes-41:





Good luck with that. That's why they're called rich, they can do things fast. I once knew a woman who bought a 200 million dollar hotel, in a week, so she could fire a employee that pissed her off.
 
"Obama proposes tax hikes on wealthy, Capital Gains tax hikes that will likely backfire as usual"

No more unwarranted than tax cuts for the wealthy, which have in fact consistently backfired.
No actually they havent.
The Bush tax cuts were so successful Obama and the Democrat Congress extended them.
 
The Bush tax cuts were so successful Obama and the Democrat Congress extended them.


Oh fuck you rabbit. Republican held hostage the extension of UE benefits. The tax cuts had to stay if the UE benefits were to be extended.

Had fucking nothing to do with success from the Bush admin. There were no successes in the Bush admin.
Unless you like the Patriot Act. Was that a Bush success also rabbit?
 
And his proposed tax increases on "the wealthy" will probably result in slowing of job growth or even decreases in job production as large employers have less money to spend on wages and personnel, adding to their increased burdens imposed by Obamacare.

Capital gains is on stock speculation. If you say, buy microsoft for 70 and sell it for 100, the increase is taxed at a rate of 15%. Often less than half of the rate that actual income is taxed.

How then would it effect job production?
 
So we should tax profits from investment made with after-tax income to the point so as to discourage such investment



sounds great

Lets say you buy Microsoft stock off the market, it increases in value and you make a profit.

How has your 'investiment' helped the economy? What good have you provided? What service? How have you increased the economy or meaningfully add to it in any way?

You haven't. You've take money from fellow investors who speculated that the price would go down.

Labor is a different story. When you work, you build business, you make goods. You provide services. You increase GDP in a meaningful way. It makes absolutely no sense that activity that directly and immediately benefits the economy would be taxed a rate higher than stock speculation.

Well, if your standard is the strength of the economy. If your standard making sure the rich have an enormous loopholes to avoid paying taxes, it makes perfect sense.
 
And his proposed tax increases on "the wealthy" will probably result in slowing of job growth or even decreases in job production as large employers have less money to spend on wages and personnel, adding to their increased burdens imposed by Obamacare.

Capital gains is on stock speculation. If you say, buy microsoft for 70 and sell it for 100, the increase is taxed at a rate of 15%. Often less than half of the rate that actual income is taxed.

How then would it effect job production?

Jimmy Carter and the far left Congress thought it did when they lowered it..

The very side you support now has voted to lower them..
 
So we should tax profits from investment made with after-tax income to the point so as to discourage such investment



sounds great

Lets say you buy Microsoft stock off the market, it increases in value and you make a profit.

How has your 'investiment' helped the economy? What good have you provided? What service? How have you increased the economy or meaningfully add to it in any way?

You haven't. You've take money from fellow investors who speculated that the price would go down.

Labor is a different story. When you work, you build business, you make goods. You provide services. You increase GDP in a meaningful way. It makes absolutely no sense that activity that directly and immediately benefits the economy would be taxed a rate higher than stock speculation.

Well, if your standard is the strength of the economy. If your standard making sure the rich have an enormous loopholes to avoid paying taxes, it makes perfect sense.
You really dont understand how finance works, do you?
Hint: Companies raise money through stock offerings as well as bond offerings. When investors buy a company's stock they are providing liquidity and a market that the company may use to raise additional funds.
 

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