Obamacare passed because of"basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter "

[Theowl32]

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The ACA is a huge fucking mess. But that's what you get when a massive part of the American economy becomes politicized.

We still have six (6), SIX different fucking health care delivery/payment systems, and the GOP has no answer for it:

1. Medicare
2. Medicaid
3. Individual/ACA
4. Group
5. VA
6. Indigent

Both parties are responsible for this fucking mess, a pox (no pun intended) on both houses.

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Wrong. No Republican voted for it and slinging shit as far as you can see still doesn't make you look smart.

And the same holds true for you being an obedient little partisan ideologue.

So what? Who cares?

Why do you always have to make this personal?

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Hi asshole. Not one republican voted for obamacare.

You are not impressing anyone by saying all politicians lie. Really, you are not at all.

 

[Theowl32]

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That video is pretty nasty, pretty damning.

Who knows if anyone cares at this point, we're pretty much used to bullshit from DC.

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We both know this would be a huge story if it involved the signature legislation of an R potus. The lib media would go berserk.

The same media that went ape shit and still beat their chests like tarzan about Nixon spying on a handful of democrats.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

this news was bound to come out to bad it came out after the 2012 election. What other surprises await democrats in 2015?

 

[Mac1958]

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The ACA is a huge fucking mess. But that's what you get when a massive part of the American economy becomes politicized.

We still have six (6), SIX different fucking health care delivery/payment systems, and the GOP has no answer for it:

1. Medicare
2. Medicaid
3. Individual/ACA
4. Group
5. VA
6. Indigent

Both parties are responsible for this fucking mess, a pox (no pun intended) on both houses.

.

Wrong. No Republican voted for it and slinging shit as far as you can see still doesn't make you look smart.

And the same holds true for you being an obedient little partisan ideologue.

So what? Who cares?

Why do you always have to make this personal?

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Hi asshole. Not one republican voted for obamacare.

You are not impressing anyone by saying all politicians lie. Really, you are not at all.

You folks always have to make things personal.

Where is my post wrong, specifically?

.

 

[Rozman]

Again.. Gruber WAS RIGHT! To pass it by the "stupid American Voter" they had to lie there were 46 million "uninsured" knowing full well as I did that
1) 10 million counted as part of the 46 million by the Census were NOT Citizens!
2) Knowing as the Census admitted that 14 million were undercounted but they WERE covered by Medicaid/SCHIP
3) 18 million never wanted, could afford but still counted as part of what Obama said:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today.
In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

Such a gigantic LIE and it was used to pass by just 7 votes!

They did everything they could to mislead,raise bait and switch to an art form so well that they made the best used car salesman weep in awe....
And we the voters are the dumbasses....

Fucking Democrats.

Where are the 48 million uninsured that this was made for...

 

[boedicca]

Good thing you edited your post to the correct spelling. Maybe next time you'll pay attention to the red line under the words before complaining about someone else

So NOW you are a liar!
I didn't have to do any corrections because it was correct in the first place! YOU had no knowledge of the correct spelling! You were guessing.
There never was any editing but that's your squirming.
Good try ClosedMinded.. Why is it people like you that think you know so much but when your ignorance is showing i.e.
the little red line would have shown me if the word superficialities was misspelled and THAT was my whole point!

It is so easy to correct right away with the little red line but pompous ignorant people like you IGNORE the little details..like you did with "dont" and with "unaccepatble". Keep on this effort going because it is just further discrediting people like yourself. It is further reinforcing the premise that the Grubers,Obamas of the world WERE right in knowing they could fool lazy totally stupid people and these lazy stupid people wouldn't even know they were being scammed!
Keep it up CloseMinded as you are simply digging a deeper hole.

Now? Isn't CC always a LAIR?

 

[Ava]

So how do you Obamacare supporters feel knowing that , Jonathan Gruber, who served as a technical advisor to President Obama during the ACA’s planning phases, revealed during a panel discussion that Obamacare was not designed as a tax, and that the lack of transparency about the new law was the only thing that saved
the controversial legislation from an untimely death in Congress.
Gruber said:
This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes.
If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that.
In termsof risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in –you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed…
Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage.
And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass…
Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”
Obamacare Gruber video stupid voters transparencyutm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LegalInsurrection+(Le%C2%B7gal+In%C2%B7sur%C2%B7rec%C2%B7tion)

And I agree with HIM!!! Basically the stupid people that believed when Obama said:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

Even though the Census AGREED:
10 million of the 46 million were not legal Americans!
Proof: Income Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States 2009 - Income Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
Even though the Census AGREED...
14 million Medicaid eligible Americans were counted erroneously as "uninsured"!
Proof?:http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Even though 18 million people didn't want, need health insurance were bogusly counted as wanting health insurance!
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED 2009
Gruber, Obama et.al. counted on stupid Americans who don't read, can't do simple arithmetic and simply think HOPE and CHANGE"!!!

Most of us knew it all along.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Again.. Gruber WAS RIGHT! To pass it by the "stupid American Voter" they had to lie there were 46 million "uninsured" knowing full well as I did that
1) 10 million counted as part of the 46 million by the Census were NOT Citizens!
2) Knowing as the Census admitted that 14 million were undercounted but they WERE covered by Medicaid/SCHIP
3) 18 million never wanted, could afford but still counted as part of what Obama said:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today.
In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

Such a gigantic LIE and it was used to pass by just 7 votes!

They did everything they could to mislead,raise bait and switch to an art form so well that they made the best used car salesman weep in awe....
And we the voters are the dumbasses....

Fucking Democrats.

Where are the 48 million uninsured that this was made for...

As obamacare came closer to passage they kept dropping the numbers, I think it ended up at 13 million.

 

[Theowl32]

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The ACA is a huge fucking mess. But that's what you get when a massive part of the American economy becomes politicized.

We still have six (6), SIX different fucking health care delivery/payment systems, and the GOP has no answer for it:

1. Medicare
2. Medicaid
3. Individual/ACA
4. Group
5. VA
6. Indigent

Both parties are responsible for this fucking mess, a pox (no pun intended) on both houses.

.

Wrong. No Republican voted for it and slinging shit as far as you can see still doesn't make you look smart.

And the same holds true for you being an obedient little partisan ideologue.

So what? Who cares?

Why do you always have to make this personal?

.

Hi asshole. Not one republican voted for obamacare.

You are not impressing anyone by saying all politicians lie. Really, you are not at all.

You folks always have to make things personal.

Where is my post wrong, specifically?

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We all know all politicians lie. We all know that. This is about the fraud of obamacare. Not one republican voted for it.

You use any issue as a poignant opportunity to brow beat us on what you think is so wise, as if no one knows it.

It is tired. This about obamacare, and what was passed. Want me to repeat that not one republican voted for it? Not even one rhino.

 

[Mac1958]

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The ACA is a huge fucking mess. But that's what you get when a massive part of the American economy becomes politicized.

We still have six (6), SIX different fucking health care delivery/payment systems, and the GOP has no answer for it:

1. Medicare
2. Medicaid
3. Individual/ACA
4. Group
5. VA
6. Indigent

Both parties are responsible for this fucking mess, a pox (no pun intended) on both houses.

.

Wrong. No Republican voted for it and slinging shit as far as you can see still doesn't make you look smart.

And the same holds true for you being an obedient little partisan ideologue.

So what? Who cares?

Why do you always have to make this personal?

.

Hi asshole. Not one republican voted for obamacare.

You are not impressing anyone by saying all politicians lie. Really, you are not at all.

You folks always have to make things personal.

Where is my post wrong, specifically?

.

We all know all politicians lie. We all know that. This is about the fraud of obamacare. Not one republican voted for it.

You use any issue as a poignant opportunity to brow beat us on what you think is so wise, as if no one knows it.

It is tired. This about obamacare, and what was passed. Want me repeat that not one republican voted for it? Not even one rhino.

Dishonest, narcissistic partisan ideologues are causing my country great damage, that seems pretty important to me. So I'm comfy pointing it out at every opportunity.

Okay, I agree they didn't vote for the ACA, so what is their plan, specifically?

What is YOUR plan? Map it out.

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[Rozman]

If a private entity liked Microsoft or Apple pulled this crap their executives would have had their asses hauled before Congress in chains.

 

[Jackson]

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” says the MIT economist who helped write Obamacare. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO didn’t score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies.

…If you made it explicit that healthy people pay in [and] sick people get money it would not have passed.”




Obamacare Architect Admits Deceiving Americans to Pass Law

The Republicans warned Americans about this and they were right. Is there anything they can do about it now?

The ACA is going before the SCOTUS again. Maybe, just maybe, some movement to drastic repair is in the offing.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” says the MIT economist who helped write Obamacare. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO didn’t score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies.

…If you made it explicit that healthy people pay in [and] sick people get money it would not have passed.”




Obamacare Architect Admits Deceiving Americans to Pass Law

The Republicans warned Americans about this and they were right. Is there anything they can do about it now?

The ACA is going before the SCOTUS again. Maybe, just maybe, some movement to drastic repair is in the offing.

Repair as in repeal

 

[Rozman]

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” says the MIT economist who helped write Obamacare. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO didn’t score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies.

…If you made it explicit that healthy people pay in [and] sick people get money it would not have passed.”




Obamacare Architect Admits Deceiving Americans to Pass Law

So they pulled a fast one on many levels.
It's a mandate because it would crash and burn if it was a tax.
They go before the Supremes and they lose if it's a mandate...
So then they say...No it's a tax...and they get over.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

the Byrd Rule prevents lawmakers from adding anything to the budget that increases the deficit. Since the CBO has already concluded that repealing the ACA would increase the budget deficit by $109 billion,



you're up Mitch.

the Byrd Rule prevents lawmakers from adding anything to the budget that increases the deficit. Since the CBO has already concluded that repealing the ACA would increase the budget deficit by $109 billion,



you're up Mitch.

Glad you can be so giddy in light of President Cocksucker fucking over the American people. I guess you assholes want more of what you got November 4th.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” says the MIT economist who helped write Obamacare. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO didn’t score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies.

…If you made it explicit that healthy people pay in [and] sick people get money it would not have passed.”




Obamacare Architect Admits Deceiving Americans to Pass Law

So they pulled a fast one on many levels.
It's a mandate because it would crash and burn if it was a tax.
They go before the Supremes and they lose if it's a mandate...
So then they say...No it's a tax...and they get over.

There must be video of Justice Roberts giving a blowjob to Al Sharpton somewhere. Obamacare was supposed to be overturned.

 

[The Rabbi]

An the funny thing is, the Democrats lied like hell to get this through. They promised it wouldnt fund abortions. They promised it would lower premiums. They promised it would not add "one thin dime" to the deficit. They promised we could keep our health plans and our doctors if we liked them.
And it was all a lie. And they knew it was a lie when they said it, which makes it truly a lie.
And yet the libs on this site make excuses, rationalize, and justify passing this piece of shit. It's like theyre fine with being lied to by their own government.
I guess the end really does justify the means.

 

[The Rabbi]

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” says the MIT economist who helped write Obamacare. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO didn’t score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies.

…If you made it explicit that healthy people pay in [and] sick people get money it would not have passed.”




Obamacare Architect Admits Deceiving Americans to Pass Law

So they pulled a fast one on many levels.
It's a mandate because it would crash and burn if it was a tax.
They go before the Supremes and they lose if it's a mandate...
So then they say...No it's a tax...and they get over.

There must be video of Justice Roberts giving a blowjob to Al Sharpton somewhere. Obamacare was supposed to be overturned.

The rumor I heard was they threatened NSA would "find" some kiddie porn on Robert's computer.

 

[BluesLegend]

That's right Rabbi lied and bribed and threatened and even blatantly disregarded the will of the voters in MA to cram this thing through. Now its a toxic mess few Dem's in congress want to touch.

 

[The Rabbi]

That's right Rabbi lied and bribed and threatened and even blatantly disregarded the will of the voters in MA to cram this thing through. Now its a toxic mess few Dem's in congress want to touch.

That's right, Rabbi, lied and bribed and threatened and even blatantly disregarded the will of the voters

See how much better it sounds when you use commas?