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0.00018 Ph drop in one location, near a dam volcano... and this is some how relevant to the whole world?Here is evidence of decreasing ocean alkalinity off Hawaii. Do you accept this?Evidence could. How about you present some.
Obviously you failed to read the paper or do the math...Apparently for you, Billy_Bob, evidence is evidence there is no evidence. But as a matter of curiosity, from where do you get '0.00018 Ph drop'?
Plucked it from your arse, eh? Don't blame you.Obviously you failed to read the paper or do the math...Apparently for you, Billy_Bob, evidence is evidence there is no evidence. But as a matter of curiosity, from where do you get '0.00018 Ph drop'?
Certainly, Wallace’s “compelling” analysis is junk. I hope the rest of his PhD is better than this pHoolishess.
UPDATE: I’ve replaced the figures after finding a glitch in my analyses.
The final thing I learned from this study is that creatures in the ocean live happily in a wide range of alkalinities, from a high of over 8.0 down to almost neutral. As a result, the idea that a slight change in alkalinity will somehow knock the ocean dead doesn’t make any sense. By geological standards, the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere is currently quite low. It has been several times higher in the past, with the inevitable changes in the oceanic pH … and despite that, the life in the ocean continued to flourish.
My conclusion? To mis-quote Mark Twain, “The reports of the ocean’s death have been greatly exaggerated.”
what about the other journals that aren't affiliated with the good old boys peer group? You really expect that in a peer group they'd actually question each other? you're so full of the lie that you can't understand how utterly stupid that comment was about peer review.Well, that is Billy Boob's favorite source.
Odd how we have the deniars flapping yap about no acidification, while about 100% of the papers in the peer reviewed journals are stating that acidification is happening and affecting the food chain.
how odd....
I found this graph in an old Willis article on pH. the original reference was to the AGU but it was no longer available. so I googled it. I thought I had found a copy on a blog about quantitative palaeoecology but it wasnt there.
Certainly, Wallace’s “compelling” analysis is junk. I hope the rest of his PhD is better than this pHoolishess.
UPDATE: I’ve replaced the figures after finding a glitch in my analyses.
apparently that's what you got with a few million data points before Feely modeled pH.
from Willis-
The final thing I learned from this study is that creatures in the ocean live happily in a wide range of alkalinities, from a high of over 8.0 down to almost neutral. As a result, the idea that a slight change in alkalinity will somehow knock the ocean dead doesn’t make any sense. By geological standards, the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere is currently quite low. It has been several times higher in the past, with the inevitable changes in the oceanic pH … and despite that, the life in the ocean continued to flourish.
My conclusion? To mis-quote Mark Twain, “The reports of the ocean’s death have been greatly exaggerated.”
what about the other journals that aren't affiliated with the good old boys peer group? You really expect that in a peer group they'd actually question each other? you're so full of the lie that you can't understand how utterly stupid that comment was about peer review.
The more you write, the more I question your sincerity toward science. I see you believe that only one side of a problem exists and if one doesn't agree with the path of that side, opposing thoughts automatically becomes junk. I believe Judith Curry is well known and I believe is working on challenging the current peered groups on your side. Her name is now being muddied in this forum just because she is positioning herself. How is that? How does she loose credibility only because she believes differently than those peer groups?what about the other journals that aren't affiliated with the good old boys peer group? You really expect that in a peer group they'd actually question each other? you're so full of the lie that you can't understand how utterly stupid that comment was about peer review.
What other journals would that be jc?
There you go again why would she put anything in front of a peer review? She doesn't agree with them! She will be invited to the house of representative for discussion on climate we will see what comes out of that hearing.Judith Curry has been discussed long before this topic appeared. She has some credibility on the topic. For instance, she poo-poos the idea that NOAA, CRU, et al are manipulating the temperature data to make things look worse. But she has a large number of climate scientists opposing her ideas. Curry has not published any peer reviewed information about ocean acidification because, as she admits, "I don’t have much expertise on this [ocean acidification]". She has, however, started a thread on the topic on her website (Ocean acidification discussion thread Climate Etc.) where she puts the views of Scott Doney, "Senior Scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Woods Hole MA against those of Craig Idso, "founder, former president and current chairman of the board of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change". Craig has a PhD in Geography and he and his organization argue that increase atmospheric CO2 is beneficial. He strenuously rejects the conclusions of the IPCC. More detailed biographical information for both men may be had at Judith Curry's website via the link above.
I would suggest you read the contents of the thread and Curry's comments. I do not think you will find her in agreement with you or Westwall or SSDD on this topic.
Draft APS Statement on Climate Change Climate Etc.Do you not speak English? I am telling you to go to HER website and read HER comments on the matter. Your comments and those of Westwall and SSDD ARE NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH HERS... AT ALL.
