Official State of the Union Thread

[debbiedowner]

I have to say great theater but nothing is likely to change.

 

[gipper]

You can read more if you like:

Mr. Trump said that America is the largest crude oil producer in the world and that production has hit a record high.

This is true.

The United States has been the largest producer of oil and gas in the world since 2013, a trend that began under the Obama administration thanks in large part to advances in shale drilling techniques.

Mr. Trump claimed nearly 5 million people have been lifted off food stamps.

This is exaggerated.

The number of Americans in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program decreased by more than 3.5 million between February 2017 — Mr. Trump’s first full month in office — to September 2018, according to the latest available data. By comparison, the number of people receiving the aid decreased by 5 million from June 2015 to January 2017.

Mr. Trump said that Ralph Northam, the embattled governor of Virginia, said he would execute a baby after it was born.

This is false.

In an interview last month, Governor Northam said that he supported a late-term abortion bill that would loosen restrictions on the procedure, and allow women to consult with a doctor on an abortion up to, but not including, the time of birth.

The governor, a pediatric neurologist, also talked about some of the dangerous medical emergencies that pregnant women could face, such as carrying a nonviable fetus. He said that in such a case, the mother would deliver the infant and then, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.” While Mr. Northam was talking about an end-of-life care discussion in the case of a child that would not live, Republicans seized on his remarks as evidence that Mr. Northam supported killing babies after their birth.

Mr. Trump said his administration is holding talks with several groups in Afghanistan, including the Taliban.

This is true.

Mr. Trump said that American forces last month killed one of the leaders of the 2000 bombing of the naval destroyer Cole.

This is true.

Mr. Trump said that American troops have been “fighting in the Middle East for almost 19 years.”

This is false.

American troops deployed to Afghanistan on Oct. 7, 2001, to begin Operation Enduring Freedom — the American military and NATO mission to rid Afghanistan of Al Qaeda. But Afghanistan is not technically considered part of the Middle East — it is in southwest Asia. The United States invaded Iraq, which is in the Middle East, in March 2003 — nearly 16 years ago.

Mr. Trump said that lawmakers in New York cheered the passage of legislation that would allow a baby to be ripped from the mother’s womb moments before birth.

This is misleading.

On Jan. 22, the 46th anniversary of the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a Democrat of New York, signed the Reproductive Health Act, which ensures a woman’s right to an abortion in New York if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned. It does not broadly allow abortions until shortly before birth, as Mr. Trump suggested. Instead, it will allow for an abortion after 24 weeks to protect the mother’s health or if the fetus is not viable. Under the prior law, abortions were allowed after 24 weeks only if the woman’s life was in jeopardy.

Fact Checking the 2019 State of the Union Address

It’s funny what the establishment left thinks is false. Rather silly.

Its more funny that you believe a lying rug.

Did I say I believe him? Where?

 

[beautress]

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Most of Trump's speech was the expected exaggerations , pompus ego , misleading facts.....and downright lies..>>>>

State of the Union Fact Check: What Trump Got Right and Wrong

~S~

Yep, but our righty friends saw the greatest speech by the greatest president ever. The jury is out on whether the speech itself, or their reaction to it, would constitute the clearest evidence for the currently festering American Disease.

Immigration

“The border city of El Paso, Tex., used to have extremely high rates of violent crime — one of the highest in the entire country, and considered one of our nation’s most dangerous cities. Now, immediately upon its building, with a powerful barrier in place, El Paso is one of the safest cities in our country.”
This is false.

El Paso was never one of the most dangerous cities in the United States, and crime has been declining in cities across the country — not just El Paso — for reasons that have nothing to do with border fencing. In 2008, before border barriers had been completed in El Paso, the city had the second-lowest violent crime rate among more than 20 similarly sized cities. In 2010, after the fencing went up, it held that place.​

The pompous, megalomaniac buffoon's mendacity, and his mean-spirited nativist hate fest, in all its putrid glory, and no amount of disingenuous sophistry will make that claim acceptable. Well, except for the xenophobes, nativists and racists who make up most of Trump's "base". They do love the things they... "see".

Sorry, Europe. I just saw the speech for the first time this morning. It sounded reasonable to me. It was a little distracting to see the Speaker of the House holding up a notepad and running through it everytime the President began a new paragraph. What she did looked like someone who didn't know how to act at a SOTU address. I guess when you're planning a "gotcha" conspiracy, you have to check your notes frequently.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Watching the left defy reality is amusing

 

[debbiedowner]

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Most of Trump's speech was the expected exaggerations , pompus ego , misleading facts.....and downright lies..>>>>

State of the Union Fact Check: What Trump Got Right and Wrong

~S~

Yep, but our righty friends saw the greatest speech by the greatest president ever. The jury is out on whether the speech itself, or their reaction to it, would constitute the clearest evidence for the currently festering American Disease.

Immigration

“The border city of El Paso, Tex., used to have extremely high rates of violent crime — one of the highest in the entire country, and considered one of our nation’s most dangerous cities. Now, immediately upon its building, with a powerful barrier in place, El Paso is one of the safest cities in our country.”
This is false.

El Paso was never one of the most dangerous cities in the United States, and crime has been declining in cities across the country — not just El Paso — for reasons that have nothing to do with border fencing. In 2008, before border barriers had been completed in El Paso, the city had the second-lowest violent crime rate among more than 20 similarly sized cities. In 2010, after the fencing went up, it held that place.​

The pompous, megalomaniac buffoon's mendacity, and his mean-spirited nativist hate fest, in all its putrid glory, and no amount of disingenuous sophistry will make that claim acceptable. Well, except for the xenophobes, nativists and racists who make up most of Trump's "base". They do love the things they... "see".

Sorry, Europe. I just saw the speech for the first time this morning. It sounded reasonable to me. It was a little distracting to see the Speaker of the House holding up a notepad and running through it everytime the President began a new paragraph. What she did looked like someone who didn't know how to act at a SOTU address. I guess when you're planning a "gotcha" conspiracy, you have to check your notes frequently.

She was reading the speech Trump handed her before he started.

 

[Flash]

Trump failed to thank the Federal Workers who sacrificed for his shutdown

...and the filthy ass Democrats failed to fund the government,

 

[sparky]

What she did looked like someone who didn't know how to act at a SOTU address

what did you expect....>?>>>

 

[Flash]

Most of Trump's speech was the expected exaggerations , pompus ego , misleading facts.....and downright lies..>>>>

State of the Union Fact Check: What Trump Got Right and Wrong

~S~

At least he wasn't lying like all of Obama's speeches.

 

[Claudette]

Doy

Nobody cares what the fringe left thought about the speech......what matters is what the whole country thought.

Facts are what matter. Trump had none. He spouted lies and more lies.

Well of course you are going to say that but in life, reality is 95% perception. The President blasted it out of the park in the minds of the majority. Everything else is noise.

Yup. He hit a massive home run and the Dems are STILL trying to field it.

 

[sparky]

Most of Trump's speech was the expected exaggerations , pompus ego , misleading facts.....and downright lies..>>>>

State of the Union Fact Check: What Trump Got Right and Wrong

~S~

At least he was lying like all of Obama's speeches.

Yes

Maybe we should rename it the 'state of our denial addy'

~S~

 

[beautress]

I have to say great theater but nothing is likely to change.

I think there will be some progress on stopping illegal immigration in border areas hard-hit by trash being thrown everywhere.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump's SOTU speech included a long list of lies and misrepresentations, and every fact checking source is busy sorting through them and presenting the facts to show just how wrong he was. I was particularly irked by his claim that El Paso was a very dangerous place, and that fence quickly turned it into one of the safest places in the US. El Paso was a very safe place long before any fence.

What do you think his biggest lies were?

I spent quite a bit of time in El Paso last year. The way they explained it was that ten years before, Juarez was one of the most dangerous places on earth due to drug wars.
That violence did not spill over into El Paso. El Paso has a major military base close to the border. It has never had a serious violence problem

 

[beautress]

He's the best President we've had since Ronald Reagan.

Worst since Bush 43
Not as bad, but working on it

I thought it was okay.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

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Most of Trump's speech was the expected exaggerations , pompus ego , misleading facts.....and downright lies..>>>>

State of the Union Fact Check: What Trump Got Right and Wrong

~S~

Yep, but our righty friends saw the greatest speech by the greatest president ever. The jury is out on whether the speech itself, or their reaction to it, would constitute the clearest evidence for the currently festering American Disease.

Immigration

“The border city of El Paso, Tex., used to have extremely high rates of violent crime — one of the highest in the entire country, and considered one of our nation’s most dangerous cities. Now, immediately upon its building, with a powerful barrier in place, El Paso is one of the safest cities in our country.”
This is false.

El Paso was never one of the most dangerous cities in the United States, and crime has been declining in cities across the country — not just El Paso — for reasons that have nothing to do with border fencing. In 2008, before border barriers had been completed in El Paso, the city had the second-lowest violent crime rate among more than 20 similarly sized cities. In 2010, after the fencing went up, it held that place.​

The pompous, megalomaniac buffoon's mendacity, and his mean-spirited nativist hate fest, in all its putrid glory, and no amount of disingenuous sophistry will make that claim acceptable. Well, except for the xenophobes, nativists and racists who make up most of Trump's "base". They do love the things they... "see".

Sorry, Europe. I just saw the speech for the first time this morning. It sounded reasonable to me. It was a little distracting to see the Speaker of the House holding up a notepad and running through it everytime the President began a new paragraph. What she did looked like someone who didn't know how to act at a SOTU address. I guess when you're planning a "gotcha" conspiracy, you have to check your notes frequently.

Not defending her but....she was actually looking at the copy of the speech Trump gave both her and VP Pence.

 

[Flash]

 

[Flash]

 

[rightwinger]

The lie that Trump keeps repeating that makes me laugh is where he says that if he had not been elected we would have been at war with North Korea

We have maintained the same stalemate for 65 years. There is nothing in the last two years that would have changed it

 

[Claudette]

Or a cult following.

I couldn't figure that out either. White?? Why??

 

[Lonestar_logic]

You can read more if you like:

Mr. Trump said that America is the largest crude oil producer in the world and that production has hit a record high.

This is true.

The United States has been the largest producer of oil and gas in the world since 2013, a trend that began under the Obama administration thanks in large part to advances in shale drilling techniques.

Mr. Trump claimed nearly 5 million people have been lifted off food stamps.

This is exaggerated.

The number of Americans in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program decreased by more than 3.5 million between February 2017 — Mr. Trump’s first full month in office — to September 2018, according to the latest available data. By comparison, the number of people receiving the aid decreased by 5 million from June 2015 to January 2017.

Mr. Trump said that Ralph Northam, the embattled governor of Virginia, said he would execute a baby after it was born.

This is false.

In an interview last month, Governor Northam said that he supported a late-term abortion bill that would loosen restrictions on the procedure, and allow women to consult with a doctor on an abortion up to, but not including, the time of birth.

The governor, a pediatric neurologist, also talked about some of the dangerous medical emergencies that pregnant women could face, such as carrying a nonviable fetus. He said that in such a case, the mother would deliver the infant and then, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.” While Mr. Northam was talking about an end-of-life care discussion in the case of a child that would not live, Republicans seized on his remarks as evidence that Mr. Northam supported killing babies after their birth.

Mr. Trump said his administration is holding talks with several groups in Afghanistan, including the Taliban.

This is true.

Mr. Trump said that American forces last month killed one of the leaders of the 2000 bombing of the naval destroyer Cole.

This is true.

Mr. Trump said that American troops have been “fighting in the Middle East for almost 19 years.”

This is false.

American troops deployed to Afghanistan on Oct. 7, 2001, to begin Operation Enduring Freedom — the American military and NATO mission to rid Afghanistan of Al Qaeda. But Afghanistan is not technically considered part of the Middle East — it is in southwest Asia. The United States invaded Iraq, which is in the Middle East, in March 2003 — nearly 16 years ago.

Mr. Trump said that lawmakers in New York cheered the passage of legislation that would allow a baby to be ripped from the mother’s womb moments before birth.

This is misleading.

On Jan. 22, the 46th anniversary of the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, a Democrat of New York, signed the Reproductive Health Act, which ensures a woman’s right to an abortion in New York if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned. It does not broadly allow abortions until shortly before birth, as Mr. Trump suggested. Instead, it will allow for an abortion after 24 weeks to protect the mother’s health or if the fetus is not viable. Under the prior law, abortions were allowed after 24 weeks only if the woman’s life was in jeopardy.

Fact Checking the 2019 State of the Union Address

Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, told Washington radio station WTOP. "The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."

 

[beautress]

Most of Trump's speech was the expected exaggerations , pompus ego , misleading facts.....and downright lies..>>>>

State of the Union Fact Check: What Trump Got Right and Wrong

~S~

The NY Times doesn't play fair when it comes to politics. It always favors Democrats and it always deplores Republicans. It's their way. That's why smart people unsubscribed to the NYT. They now have only entrenched Democrats buying their negativism. Our poor country doesn't have trustworthy news any more. The NYT is nothing but a partisan rag 95% of the time.