OK, I'll admit it, our friends on the left are correct; there IS a catch to the Trump tax cuts

[Harry Dresden]

You have no clue...John Kerry is one of those that went out of his way to AVOID paying taxes. Next you can check with Charlie Rangel, chairman of the supreme tax-writing body in the United States, the House Ways and Means Committee, is under investigation for, among other things, dodging taxes....dumbass.

Bulshit gossip about his yacht being in Rhode Island?? Means not a damn thing. What about the policy they were for, Dupe?

Policy they were for??....sure, they were all for higher taxes...for everyone EXCEPT themselves...dumbass.

Right wing idiocy at its best

franco!....what happened to those bills?....lol....

New England as usual and the worst call of the Year from the refs. Now they have to beat Miami and either the Ravens lose to Cincinnati or the Chargers and Titans have to lose. I'm hoping the Ravens lose and we get to beat malarkey and the Titans in the playoffs.

well thats 3 teams that have to lose....im betting at least 1 wins.....there is always next year franco ...lol...
hey i saw that Irve Weinstein died....

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Only a dumbass like you would think $1,000 is the same as tens of millions of dollars as far as investments are concerned.

Did he say it's the same?

$1000 is more than $0.

How much have you invested so far, $0? And you still complain...

I find that to be a very common trait in wealth haters. Outside of a house or perhaps a company paid IRA, they never invested any of their own hard earned money.

Trump invested his daddy's money and that of those people who got screwed.

Who got screwed?

Pick one Ray
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Yes, I posted this earlier, and you left out the most important part:

An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, Trump and his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate.[1] Of the 3,500 suits, Trump or one of his companies were plaintiffs in 1,900; defendants in 1,450; and bankruptcy, third party, or other in 150.[1] Trump was named in at least 169 suits in federal court.[2] A number of other cases (over 150) were in the Seventeenth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida (covering Broward County, Florida) since 1983.[3] In about 500 cases, judges dismissed plaintiffs' claims against Trump. In hundreds more, cases ended with the available public record unclear about the resolution.[1] Where there was a clear resolution, Trump won 451 times, and lost 38.[4]

So out of all these lawsuits, Trump was the plaintiff in most of them. Furthermore is the fact that you can sue anybody you want in this country. It doesn't mean a thing. It's guilt and judgment that counts. But as a leftist, you only want to tell one side of the story.

 

[francoHFW]

Bulshit gossip about his yacht being in Rhode Island?? Means not a damn thing. What about the policy they were for, Dupe?

Policy they were for??....sure, they were all for higher taxes...for everyone EXCEPT themselves...dumbass.

Right wing idiocy at its best

franco!....what happened to those bills?....lol....

New England as usual and the worst call of the Year from the refs. Now they have to beat Miami and either the Ravens lose to Cincinnati or the Chargers and Titans have to lose. I'm hoping the Ravens lose and we get to beat malarkey and the Titans in the playoffs.

well thats 3 teams that have to lose....im betting at least 1 wins.....there is always next year franco ...lol...
hey i saw that Irve Weinstein died....

Only the Ravens have to lose. OR the other two. Yes he moved to California to be near his kids and got ALS recently. Pistol packin punks Etc LOL.

 

[francoHFW]

Did he say it's the same?

$1000 is more than $0.

How much have you invested so far, $0? And you still complain...

I find that to be a very common trait in wealth haters. Outside of a house or perhaps a company paid IRA, they never invested any of their own hard earned money.

Trump invested his daddy's money and that of those people who got screwed.

Who got screwed?

Pick one Ray
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Yes, I posted this earlier, and you left out the most important part:

An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, Trump and his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate.[1] Of the 3,500 suits, Trump or one of his companies were plaintiffs in 1,900; defendants in 1,450; and bankruptcy, third party, or other in 150.[1] Trump was named in at least 169 suits in federal court.[2] A number of other cases (over 150) were in the Seventeenth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida (covering Broward County, Florida) since 1983.[3] In about 500 cases, judges dismissed plaintiffs' claims against Trump. In hundreds more, cases ended with the available public record unclear about the resolution.[1] Where there was a clear resolution, Trump won 451 times, and lost 38.[4]

So out of all these lawsuits, Trump was the plaintiff in most of them. Furthermore is the fact that you can sue anybody you want in this country. It doesn't mean a thing. It's guilt and judgment that counts. But as a leftist, you only want to tell one side of the story.

Still sounds like a scumbag con man... He also ruined thousands of his employees going bankrupt and making out himself. Whatever I don't care I just want him to know the facts and have some good policy for a change...

 

[Papageorgio]

How many of your businesses are successful?

Sorry, daddy didn't give me millions to invest.

My dad gave me nothing however I have built and sold three business

Who the hell cares, I asked you to prove that rich people who inherit money from their parents are deadbeats and lazy, you have not proved it, unless you are citing one person as your evidence that millions are that way.

I didn't say anything about "millions." That's your statement, dumbass. I don't have to prove what you said.

Dumb ass prove to me that rich people who inherit money from their parents are deadbeats and lazy. Thank you.

I already proved my claim to you with Trump. If you want me to prove something you or some other asshole said, contact said asshole, idiot.

You proved one person out of a million is what you claim. You are a dishonest, I know two people that inherited their money and are great people, so now you got nothing but your ignorance and bigotry.

I proved what I said. I don't have to prove what you said.

Here's a tissue. I expect you will shed many a tear whining about how I'm dishonest because I don't want to prove your statements or those of other idiots.

You didn't prove your statement which is, “That's how it works, except in the case of spoiled rich deadbeat kids getting a big fat inheritance. They are excused."

No you going to back up what you said or are you the dishonest coward we all see on this board?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I find that to be a very common trait in wealth haters. Outside of a house or perhaps a company paid IRA, they never invested any of their own hard earned money.

Trump invested his daddy's money and that of those people who got screwed.

Who got screwed?

Pick one Ray
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Yes, I posted this earlier, and you left out the most important part:

An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, Trump and his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate.[1] Of the 3,500 suits, Trump or one of his companies were plaintiffs in 1,900; defendants in 1,450; and bankruptcy, third party, or other in 150.[1] Trump was named in at least 169 suits in federal court.[2] A number of other cases (over 150) were in the Seventeenth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida (covering Broward County, Florida) since 1983.[3] In about 500 cases, judges dismissed plaintiffs' claims against Trump. In hundreds more, cases ended with the available public record unclear about the resolution.[1] Where there was a clear resolution, Trump won 451 times, and lost 38.[4]

So out of all these lawsuits, Trump was the plaintiff in most of them. Furthermore is the fact that you can sue anybody you want in this country. It doesn't mean a thing. It's guilt and judgment that counts. But as a leftist, you only want to tell one side of the story.

Still sounds like a scumbag con man... He also ruined thousands of his employees going bankrupt and making out himself. Whatever I don't care I just want him to know the facts and have some good policy for a change...

In any bankruptcy the owner is seldom personally harmed. That's why the owner is completely (legally) separated from the industry he or she runs. It's kind of like if you were at work and Fd up a part, a job, or a machine of some kind. You just punch out and go home. You are not financially responsible for a mistake you made while working.

Now I can understand the criticism if Trump were a business anomaly, but this goes on in industry every single day. It's simply how business operates in the United States and Trump is only one player in the game. As he always has, he didn't make the rules, he just plays by the rules.

 

[eddiew37]

Did he say it's the same?

$1000 is more than $0.

How much have you invested so far, $0? And you still complain...

I find that to be a very common trait in wealth haters. Outside of a house or perhaps a company paid IRA, they never invested any of their own hard earned money.

Trump invested his daddy's money and that of those people who got screwed.

Who got screwed?

Pick one Ray
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Exclusive: Trump's 3,500 lawsuits unprecedented for a presidential nominee
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Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia
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Yes, I posted this earlier, and you left out the most important part:

An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, Trump and his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate.[1] Of the 3,500 suits, Trump or one of his companies were plaintiffs in 1,900; defendants in 1,450; and bankruptcy, third party, or other in 150.[1] Trump was named in at least 169 suits in federal court.[2] A number of other cases (over 150) were in the Seventeenth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida (covering Broward County, Florida) since 1983.[3] In about 500 cases, judges dismissed plaintiffs' claims against Trump. In hundreds more, cases ended with the available public record unclear about the resolution.[1] Where there was a clear resolution, Trump won 451 times, and lost 38.[4]

So out of all these lawsuits, Trump was the plaintiff in most of them. Furthermore is the fact that you can sue anybody you want in this country. It doesn't mean a thing. It's guilt and judgment that counts. But as a leftist, you only want to tell one side of the story.

Since you love the truth so much how about with all his law firms keeping cases going forever no one could afford to keep the suits up ?

 

[sealybobo]

You actually have to work and make enough money to pay taxes to actually benefit.

That godam Trump and the evil republicans running the government fuck the little guy at every turn...

The new method being used is expected to push more Americans into higher tax brackets more quickly. By switching to this new method, the government will bring an additional $134 billion in over the next decade.

This is from people like you, not rich people sucker.

How will that happen?

It comes down to this: The chained CPI makes inflation appear lower, and that means tax brackets will be adjusted upward but lots of workers will continue to get raises based upon the faster-rising traditional CPI. In other words, your income may rise faster than the inflation adjustments, forcing you to pay taxes at a higher rate — even though you may not feel any richer.

Compared to where taxpayers are now by 2027 most individuals will actually pay more taxes!!!!!

The difference will be slight, perhaps just a few tenths of a percentage point a year but over time, these fractions of a percentage point add up and can amount to a fair amount of money.

But the rich will be doing great in 8 years. You will be doing no better.

As has been the case for the last 30 or so years

Have you heard all the people about to lose thousands in home deductions. I understand they’ll say they will make it up in other ways but im not buying it.

This new tax bill didn’t exist the last 30 years and the bush tax breaks didn’t exist the last 30 years

 

[Papageorgio]

They could get the money back into the economy by taxing the inheritance. Then they wouldn't have to worry about wasting goods and services on some good-for-nothing lazy rich deadbeat.

They can, but it should be taxed like regular income at the very least.Why can't everyone else pull themselves up by their bootstraps and "work" by investing their spare $10-20 million they have laying around?
The reality is that inheriting something is not "work."

Yeah, he put it somewhere for it to become more money. Investments are not "work" kind of like the lottery is not work.

Considering that trumps businesses have gone bankrupt three or four times and he ended up being a brand name and a reality TV bozo... He is a bad businessman. In the end he just took money to put his name on other people's buildings. He's a con man who will never show his tax returns...

How many of your businesses are successful?

Sorry, daddy didn't give me millions to invest.

My dad gave me nothing however I have built and sold three business

I don’t think you are lying, I know you are. You have produced nothing, thanks for proving you are a bigot and a liar.

I handed him his ass right here:

I said he got it from his dad, one way or another.

He inherited it, stupid. He may have also received some as a gift prior to his father's death.

That was, oh, over 100-200 posts back. See, it's that problem rearing its ugly head again: your illiteracy.

Who the hell cares, I asked you to prove that rich people who inherit money from their parents are deadbeats and lazy, you have not proved it, unless you are citing one person as your evidence that millions are that way.

I didn't say anything about "millions." That's your statement, dumbass. I don't have to prove what you said.

Dumb ass prove to me that rich people who inherit money from their parents are deadbeats and lazy. Thank you.

Many are and there is a huge number of people these days just shuffling papers to make money. Nobody said they're all dead Beats.

I am asking him to simply back up what he said and he has refused because he can't. Look at his statement and then come back when you have someone that understands simple English explain it to you, hater dupe.

 

[frigidweirdo]

where do you come up with this shit?
the rich are paying little, what does that mean numerically?do

How much do the rich pay in taxes?

How much does Trump pay in taxes? How much do the Koch family pay? How about the Mars family?

Come on, tell me how much they pay in taxes.

I can accept a round figure, I can accept a percentage of their income. Try me.

How Much Do Rich Americans Pay in Taxes?

The problem here Ray, is that A) you're listening to the reporter who do the bidding for the rich and B) you're playing games with facts to make it look like something it isn't.

See the average income tax for those who earn $10 million or more is LOWER than those who earn $1 million? And yet there's nothing there about the multitudes who earn LESS than $1 million. We call it cherry picking Ray.

Also, this is ONLY income tax. It doesn't include other taxes which the rich manage to get past.

And they've manage to dupe the fuck out of your ass, as you're their star fucking cheer leader with big tits.

"Billionaire investing guru Warren Buffett is famous for saying that he pays a lower income tax rate than his secretary, "

How much? How much does Buffett pay?

I asked a SPECIFIC question and all you did was post a webpage which DOES NOT answer my question.

"Thanks to tax loopholes like those, one out of every three of America's top 400 income earners, each of whom had income above $110 million, paid a tax rate that was less than 15% in 2008, "

Less than 15%. 0% is less than 15%. -30% is less than 15%.

So how much do these one in three top 400 earns actually pay? You can't tell me, can you?

8% of these, that's 32 billionaires, pay under 10%. Who's betting that these people are people like the Koch brothers, the people who spend a lot of money making sure they don't end up paying taxes. Instead they spend it on fooling people like you.

But again Ray, all this says is INCOME TAX.

I didn't ask about INCOME TAX. I asked about TAX.

So, do you have this information, or are you just going to throw websites at me which don't tell me anything?

You must think we have a flat tax in this country or something. Many of those billionaires make their money on capital gains---not income. Because of that, they are taxed differently. There are also low taxed bonds and those sort of things that keep their taxes lower even though they don't get a tremendous return as they would other investments.

What I can't figure out is your argument: is it the rich vs the richer or is it the rich vs the average person that you're upset about???? Remember that it's people like Buffett that are aiding our retirement accounts in the market. We want to encourage that--not discourage it.

Top 40% paying ALL income taxes, and leaving a tip

Buffet is yet another leftist hypocrite. How long did he fight the IRS last time because he felt he was paying too much in taxes? Think Buffett doesn't take every tax write-off he's allowed to? How about Gates? How about the Hollywood left?

The New York Times Paid No Taxes in 2014 - Breitbart

they think the rich get their money from jobs. Like most of us do. Isn't it fascinating watching the stupid that is the libturd? I enjoy it daily in here.

they don't understand that the tax isn't generated until it goes liquid. too funny. Net worth isn't yearly salary on a job. too funny.

Almost certainly you have no idea what people are actually talking about. Happens far too often on this forum.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I'm not talking here about taxing the wealthy to death. I'm talking about making them pay a fair amount which people can trust in.

serious question:

how much more than 70% of all taxes paid by the top 10% of wealthiest Americans would be "fair"???

the problem with your take on this is that your solution stifles growth & creates more restrictive impediments on the middle class to actually make it into that elusive "wealthy class"

real wealth; like that of the Kennedy's & Soros' of the world, is untouched; but the EARNINGS of the little guy & the great unwashed middle class are assaulted

not to mention that people that make $100,000 are considered "rich"

Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2015 Update - Tax Foundation

The problem here is this.

1) The rich get lots of incentives. Trump was paid nearly $1 billion by New York in his time to do business. Then when he earns money from this, you say he shouldn't be paying much money in taxes. You forget the percentage of what he earns and just look at the amount, which is ridiculous.

2) said incentives prevent other businesses from competing on a level playing field. Which means the rich get richer and richer and then you point out they pay lots in tax. Sure they do, but by paying LESS as a percentage the smaller businesses are paying MORE as a percentage to make up the shortfall, and therefore they're struggling even more to compete with these companies.

Do you think it's fair that the rich should pay less taxes so they can make more money so they can put smaller businesses out of business?

Depends what fair is. Care to define it?

Why you think it's fair that rich pay higher taxes than you do?

And yes, all the laws should effect everyone equally. If I get tax break, rich should get the tax break too.

Oh ? The disparity between rich and middle class isn't enough for you now?? Growing larger the past 30 or so years and STILL you're not satisfied?? Trump Corker etc etc etc laughing all the way to the bank and the middle gets crumbs ? And we should bow down and kiss trumps ring?

So if the government takes more from the rich, how does that help me or any other blue collar worker?

Well, if the govt takes more from the rich, it means smaller businesses will be more competitive, which means some blue collar workers might get the chance to successfully start their own business. It'll also mean that recessions won't be as strong which means there's more of a chance you'll not end up unemployed for years at a time.

 

[francoHFW]

Considering that trumps businesses have gone bankrupt three or four times and he ended up being a brand name and a reality TV bozo... He is a bad businessman. In the end he just took money to put his name on other people's buildings. He's a con man who will never show his tax returns...

How many of your businesses are successful?

Sorry, daddy didn't give me millions to invest.

My dad gave me nothing however I have built and sold three business

I handed him his ass right here:

Who the hell cares, I asked you to prove that rich people who inherit money from their parents are deadbeats and lazy, you have not proved it, unless you are citing one person as your evidence that millions are that way.

I didn't say anything about "millions." That's your statement, dumbass. I don't have to prove what you said.

Dumb ass prove to me that rich people who inherit money from their parents are deadbeats and lazy. Thank you.

Many are and there is a huge number of people these days just shuffling papers to make money. Nobody said they're all dead Beats.

I am asking him to simply back up what he said and he has refused because he can't. Look at his statement and then come back when you have someone that understands simple English explain it to you, hater dupe.

Never said all rich heirs are Deadbeats. Are you thick or what... The laws we have now are only for extremely rich people.

 

[debbiedowner]

The Democratic Rich want to raise their own taxes to help the country, while the GOP rich are lying thieving cheating hypocrites who have brainwashed you, super dupe.

Is that why they're complaining so much about not being able to write-off mortgage interest after 750K on new home purchases under the Republican tax reform bill?

I'm complaining about this, wth? Thought he hated the NFL

Tax bill includes breaks for things Trump has railed against — like NFL stadiums

 

[OKTexas]

...

Damn, two sentences, and one contradicts the other. LMAO


.

How so?

Every other country has a progressive tax system, here we don't anymore. Federal income taxes are much smaller now and the only Progressive one.

We don't have progressive taxes anymore, yet the federal system is the only one that is? Do we have a progressive system or not?


.

When the top 80% of wage earners pay between 24 and 29% of their income in all taxes, that is a flat tax system. And a great way to make us a Banana Republic. All the New Wealth ends up with the richest and the country Goes to Hell, like the last 35 years. great job.

Damn, you're a worse broken record than matthew, individual taxing authorities set their rates, The feds are not responsible for SALT rates and they are not responsible for subsidizing them.

Also I've had enough of your class warfare crap, people move up and down the economic ladder all the time, no one is being held down and no one is being held up. You, I and everyone else are the sum total of our own decisions, accept that fact and move on.


.

Yep don't worry about facts and the GOP giving the store away to the rich while screwing everyone else, it's just that everyone decided to get lazy all of a sudden. Really silly stuff, dupe.

So all you got is more of your generalized poop, I've had rich folks give me a job, I've never had one steal form me. And no, everyone didn't get lazy, you commiecrats pushed regulations and noncompetitive taxes that forced our manufacturing base off shore, you own that.


.

 

[francoHFW]

...

How so?

Every other country has a progressive tax system, here we don't anymore. Federal income taxes are much smaller now and the only Progressive one.

We don't have progressive taxes anymore, yet the federal system is the only one that is? Do we have a progressive system or not?


.

When the top 80% of wage earners pay between 24 and 29% of their income in all taxes, that is a flat tax system. And a great way to make us a Banana Republic. All the New Wealth ends up with the richest and the country Goes to Hell, like the last 35 years. great job.

Damn, you're a worse broken record than matthew, individual taxing authorities set their rates, The feds are not responsible for SALT rates and they are not responsible for subsidizing them.

Also I've had enough of your class warfare crap, people move up and down the economic ladder all the time, no one is being held down and no one is being held up. You, I and everyone else are the sum total of our own decisions, accept that fact and move on.


.

Yep don't worry about facts and the GOP giving the store away to the rich while screwing everyone else, it's just that everyone decided to get lazy all of a sudden. Really silly stuff, dupe.

So all you got is more of your generalized poop, I've had rich folks give me a job, I've never had one steal form me. And no, everyone didn't get lazy, you commiecrats pushed regulations and noncompetitive taxes that forced our manufacturing base off shore, you own that.


.

No it's just normal that menial jobs are going where the pay is cheapest, and the GOP refuses to invest in training our people 4 between 3 and 6 million tech jobs that are going begging... Must save the rich from paying taxes.

 

[OKTexas]

...

We don't have progressive taxes anymore, yet the federal system is the only one that is? Do we have a progressive system or not?


.

When the top 80% of wage earners pay between 24 and 29% of their income in all taxes, that is a flat tax system. And a great way to make us a Banana Republic. All the New Wealth ends up with the richest and the country Goes to Hell, like the last 35 years. great job.

Damn, you're a worse broken record than matthew, individual taxing authorities set their rates, The feds are not responsible for SALT rates and they are not responsible for subsidizing them.

Also I've had enough of your class warfare crap, people move up and down the economic ladder all the time, no one is being held down and no one is being held up. You, I and everyone else are the sum total of our own decisions, accept that fact and move on.


.

Yep don't worry about facts and the GOP giving the store away to the rich while screwing everyone else, it's just that everyone decided to get lazy all of a sudden. Really silly stuff, dupe.

So all you got is more of your generalized poop, I've had rich folks give me a job, I've never had one steal form me. And no, everyone didn't get lazy, you commiecrats pushed regulations and noncompetitive taxes that forced our manufacturing base off shore, you own that.


.

No it's just normal that menial jobs are going where the pay is cheapest, and the GOP refuses to invest in training our people 4 between 3 and 6 million tech jobs that are going begging... Must save the rich from paying taxes.

No you're repeating yourself again, that has been addressed already. Feel free to go back and look up my answer.


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[radical right]

What else could I think when you say that Donald should have used his own money to repay the debts of a bankrupt company?

That's an important point. That Trump sold his deals under the pretext that he was investing his own money, and that people could get a piece of the action. Instead Trump took out his own money and was only using his investors money, and could piss it away without losing a dime.

Damn, it only took 4 posts for you to contradict yourself, didn't you say he could have 4 billion more had he not invested in real estate? He took risks and lost, it happens all the time in business.


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Trump used his own money, and more famously used other peoples money. His many bankruptcies and business failures lost money for both entities.

 

[Papageorgio]

How many of your businesses are successful?

Sorry, daddy didn't give me millions to invest.

My dad gave me nothing however I have built and sold three business

Who the hell cares, I asked you to prove that rich people who inherit money from their parents are deadbeats and lazy, you have not proved it, unless you are citing one person as your evidence that millions are that way.

I didn't say anything about "millions." That's your statement, dumbass. I don't have to prove what you said.

Dumb ass prove to me that rich people who inherit money from their parents are deadbeats and lazy. Thank you.

Many are and there is a huge number of people these days just shuffling papers to make money. Nobody said they're all dead Beats.

I am asking him to simply back up what he said and he has refused because he can't. Look at his statement and then come back when you have someone that understands simple English explain it to you, hater dupe.

Never said all rich heirs are Deadbeats. Are you thick or what... The laws we have now are only for extremely rich people.

Dupe, I posted what he said. Are you not bright enough to understand what he posted? Does he call on you to protect him? Is he one of your illiterate students? Is that why you are rushing in to protect your boy? Get a life hater dupe.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

...

We don't have progressive taxes anymore, yet the federal system is the only one that is? Do we have a progressive system or not?


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When the top 80% of wage earners pay between 24 and 29% of their income in all taxes, that is a flat tax system. And a great way to make us a Banana Republic. All the New Wealth ends up with the richest and the country Goes to Hell, like the last 35 years. great job.

Damn, you're a worse broken record than matthew, individual taxing authorities set their rates, The feds are not responsible for SALT rates and they are not responsible for subsidizing them.

Also I've had enough of your class warfare crap, people move up and down the economic ladder all the time, no one is being held down and no one is being held up. You, I and everyone else are the sum total of our own decisions, accept that fact and move on.


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Yep don't worry about facts and the GOP giving the store away to the rich while screwing everyone else, it's just that everyone decided to get lazy all of a sudden. Really silly stuff, dupe.

So all you got is more of your generalized poop, I've had rich folks give me a job, I've never had one steal form me. And no, everyone didn't get lazy, you commiecrats pushed regulations and noncompetitive taxes that forced our manufacturing base off shore, you own that.


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No it's just normal that menial jobs are going where the pay is cheapest, and the GOP refuses to invest in training our people 4 between 3 and 6 million tech jobs that are going begging... Must save the rich from paying taxes.

Why should the wealthy pay for other adults education?

I know we've been through this over and over again, but you're as thick as they come for a leftist, so let me ask you this:

What is wrong with people paying for their own education to secure a trade? What's stopping them? And don't say money, because our government gives educational loans all the time.

In fall of 1980, I rented my first apartment. At the time, I was fascinated with birds, so I hung a bird feeder on my upstairs back porch.

Spring broke and summer not far behind, I finally met my elderly neighbor. After some small talk, he said "Ray, what you're doing for the birds is a nice thing, but you may be doing them more harm than good. You see, feeding the birds is a good thing in winter because there is no food for them. But if you leave that feeder up year long, the birds will get so dependent on that thing they will forget how to obtain food for themselves. If you move or otherwise become disinterested in feeding them any longer, those birds will die of hunger."

I always remembered those wise words; not because of the birds, but later in life I realized that's what our government does to it's people.

So when you talk about how the GOP doesn't want to pay for adult education, I can hear that old man talking like he was sitting right next to me.

 

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When the top 80% of wage earners pay between 24 and 29% of their income in all taxes, that is a flat tax system. And a great way to make us a Banana Republic. All the New Wealth ends up with the richest and the country Goes to Hell, like the last 35 years. great job.

Damn, you're a worse broken record than matthew, individual taxing authorities set their rates, The feds are not responsible for SALT rates and they are not responsible for subsidizing them.

Also I've had enough of your class warfare crap, people move up and down the economic ladder all the time, no one is being held down and no one is being held up. You, I and everyone else are the sum total of our own decisions, accept that fact and move on.


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Yep don't worry about facts and the GOP giving the store away to the rich while screwing everyone else, it's just that everyone decided to get lazy all of a sudden. Really silly stuff, dupe.

So all you got is more of your generalized poop, I've had rich folks give me a job, I've never had one steal form me. And no, everyone didn't get lazy, you commiecrats pushed regulations and noncompetitive taxes that forced our manufacturing base off shore, you own that.


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No it's just normal that menial jobs are going where the pay is cheapest, and the GOP refuses to invest in training our people 4 between 3 and 6 million tech jobs that are going begging... Must save the rich from paying taxes.

Why should the wealthy pay for other adults education?

I know we've been through this over and over again, but you're as thick as they come for a leftist, so let me ask you this:

What is wrong with people paying for their own education to secure a trade? What's stopping them? And don't say money, because our government gives educational loans all the time.

In fall of 1980, I rented my first apartment. At the time, I was fascinated with birds, so I hung a bird feeder on my upstairs back porch.

Spring broke and summer not far behind, I finally met my elderly neighbor. After some small talk, he said "Ray, what you're doing for the birds is a nice thing, but you may be doing them more harm than good. You see, feeding the birds is a good thing in winter because there is no food for them. But if you leave that feeder up year long, the birds will get so dependent on that thing they will forget how to obtain food for themselves. If you move or otherwise become disinterested in feeding them any longer, those birds will die of hunger."

I always remembered those wise words; not because of the birds, but later in life I realized that's what our government does to it's people.

So when you talk about how the GOP doesn't want to pay for adult education, I can hear that old man talking like he was sitting right next to me.

They used to pay for other people's education when America was great in the 40s 50s 60s and 70s... Funny how we're now a wreck of what we used to be and it's getting worse...