Opinion: Nato boots on the ground?

[AtlasWept]

Declarations of war on Germany - specially from France and England.

Those declarations we made after Hitler invaded Poland.

 

[zaangalewa]

Those declarations we made after Hitler invaded Poland.

Exactly. After Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

and there is is....



~S~

Playing the Mutually Assured Destruction Card

Putin is pulling a clever bluff. He knows he can't appeal to the Globlowhard busybodies about defending his borders, which the Deep State wants to be as porous as they've made America's, so he correctly anticipates that they'll be forced to back down if their subjects fear this regional conflict will lead to the end of mankind.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Is English your second language?

He's One of Uncle Kotex's Confused Pupils

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Germany invaded western Europe. Russia invaded the Balkan states. Their non-aggression pact constituted collusion in like ideals and goals.

Draw Play

The required idiocy is that Stalin trusted Hitler as a fellow totalitarian. But Stalin never trusted anybody, so this is a childish view of history. All along he planned to intentionally provoke Hitler into attacking, knowing that the Nazi nutcase would be suckered into overextending his supply lines.

Another cartoonish view of Stalin's character is that he never thought he would lose 20 million dead. They were merely pawns.

 

[Ringo]

A week of show terror

By and large, Kiev has nothing left but terrorist attacks, sabotage and Goebbels propaganda. Abramses are burning, zaluzhnys are running to London, money and shells are not given.

Putin's election in Russia is Kiev's last chance to get global attention.
This week the last reserves of showy diversions and propaganda terror probably will be put into action.
(This has already begun with yesterday's failed attack on the Belgorod region of Russia.)

If Kiev fails to seriously fuck up the Russian elections, we are in for a routinization of the Ukrainian tragedy.
Zelensky's series is becoming uninteresting to the Western public, and the bioreactor is already set up and working on its own. The machine of society's self-destruction is running.
If the organized criminal group "95th Quarter" will not show the "winning" picture, it will lose all meaning. Losers are not liked anywhere. In the West, they are despised.

 

[Deadstick]

That's why the Nazis murdered many of my family members and you will go to hell on your own free will.

The only Germans murdered by the Nazis were jews etc and political opponents, which were yours?

 

[Deadstick]

Those declarations we made after Hitler invaded Poland.

Indeed we allowed him to take the Rheinland anex Austria and take Czechoslovakia before we acted, then when Hitler went into Poland we declared war, not long before Poland had grabbed part of Czechoslovakia

 

[ThirdTerm]

"No NATO country can send troops to Ukraine without the consent of other members of the Alliance."

- NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg

Asked whether Macron had made a mistake in using the technique of "strategic ambiguity" to discuss the possibility of sending troops to Ukraine, he said: "We need to discuss such an important issue because it concerns us all. It is important to look for a common approach through this process."

 

[Silver Cat]

You infiltrated since 2008 this region with combatants (=soldiers in civil clothing) and tried to start a kind of racist civil war there. The most victims had been Ukrainian civilists and not Russian combatants. Forget the absurde nonsense which you try to tell me here. The UNO has to decide such questions.

Actually, the Russians have been infiltrating this region for centuries (long before the Ukrainians were invented).

Not only France - everyone in the world has the right to help the Ukraine to be free. No one has any right to help Russia to suppress others. And by the way: Your war on the Ukraine which you started without any reason to have to do so (except reasons of the inner politics of Russia) is really a very perverted war also in Russian categories because you fight in the Ukraine against your own roots and soul.

You see, the NATO and EU expansion, as well as Ukrainian Nazi-collaborant ideology is not factors of Russian "inner politics". And no, denazification as well as removing cancer doesn't mean "fighting against one's roots and soul".

There is no problem any longer. Russia has to lose, that's all.

But Russia shall win. You can live with it, or you can die in the void attempts to prevent it.

You have absolutelly not any right to attack anyone who supports the Ukrainians to defend their own country. You have also not any right to do war in the Ukraine at all. You are a perverted criminal nation - the biggest country of the world - under a tyrant with the name Putin and his criminal gang. Even patriarch Kirill - a former KGB member and oligarch from Putins "grace" - tries to kill your conscience.

Bla-bla-bla. It's just irrelevant. The only question is simple - are you ready for peaceful and mutually respectful coexistence with Russians or not. If you are not ready to live in peace with your neighbors - you will die. We, Americans, do not discriminate Russians in America.

 

[Silver Cat]

When Russia will use nukes then this will mean the end of all Russians.

If Germany attacks Russia (including Russian forces anywhere in the world) without direct American order, then it's not American responsibility, and America won't defend Germany. And Germany, without American nukes, won't be able to genocide Russians.
And yes, I think, that we should withdraw American nuclear bombs from Germany, too. Just in case.
You know:

 

[Silver Cat]

Exactly. After Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland.

No. Hitler invaded Poland. Stalin liberated the lands of Western Ukraine and Western Belarus (previously occupied by Poland) after the Polish state had finished it's existence.
That's why England and France declared war to Germany, but not to Russia.

 

[Bleipriester]

No. Hitler invaded Poland. Stalin liberated the lands of Western Ukraine and Western Belarus (previously occupied by Poland) after the Polish state had finished it's existence.
That's why England and France declared war to Germany, but not to Russia.

Actually, their treaty with Poland applied for a German attack only, not any other.

 

[Silver Cat]

Actually, their treaty with Poland applied for a German attack only, not any other.

Yes. And Soviet-Polish non-agression treaty was cancelled by Polish attack against Czechoslovakia. So, Soviet protection of West Ukraine and West Belorus was absolutely legal.

 

[zaangalewa]

The only Germans murdered by the Nazis were jews etc and political opponents, which were yours?

No comment

 

[zaangalewa]

Actually, the Russians have been infiltrating this region for centuries (long before the Ukrainians were invented).

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You see, the NATO and EU expansion, as well as Ukrainian Nazi-collaborant ideology is not factors of Russian "inner politics". And no, denazification as well as removing cancer doesn't mean "fighting against one's roots and soul".

What idiocies do you try to tell me, gnome?

But Russia shall win.

Russia will under all circumstacnes lose since Putin leads you the way down.

You can live with it, or you can die in the void attempts to prevent it.

Hmm ... we will see. Your form to think is very far from my forms to think,

Bla-bla-bla. It's just irrelevant. The only question is simple - are you ready for peaceful and mutually respectful coexistence with Russians or not. If you are not ready to live in peace with your neighbors - you will die.

Aha.

We, Americans, do not discriminate Russians in America.

You what? The future Russia in America is in a first step Alaska and the east coast of Canada and the USA so the rest of Canada and the USA will be isolated from Asia. And when the whole planet will be called Russia it will be a little late to call you American, slave of Putin and high traitor of the USA.

 

[zaangalewa]

Doinald Trumo If Germany attacks Russia (including Russian forces anywhere in the world) without direct American order, then it's not American responsibility, and America won't defend Germany. ...

Since when in all history of mankind defended the USA Germany? In German I had to say in best case you will be a "Klotz am Bein" and in a worst case scenario we will have to send home some US-Americans scalped. So the best will be the USA will leave Germany with all of their soldiers, Russian. With Putin and his man Donald Trump and their absurde forms not to think Germany should have nothing to do.

 

[zaangalewa]

No. Hitler invaded Poland.

As Hitler and Stalin agreed to do in the secret part of the Molotow-Ribbentrop-Pact - which was by thre way not fulfilled from Hitler but from the allies of World War 2, They gave Stalin what he had agreed with Hitler.

Stalin liberated the lands ...

I know. Prussia, Pommerania, Silesia, Bohemia, Moravia ... and so on. A lot of genocides (mass-murder and displacement) from the winners of World War 2 which the world never liked to notice - otherwise their heroism would have scratches in their own nationalistic paintwork.

 

[zaangalewa]

No. Hitler invaded Poland. Stalin liberated the lands of Western Ukraine and Western Belarus (previously occupied by Poland) after the Polish state had finished it's existence.
That's why England and France declared war to Germany, but not to Russia.

England declared war on England in World War 1 when they declared war on the Brit and Prussian emperor over Germany William II who had been educated from Queen Victoria. They wan in World War 1+2 against England by burning down an unbelievable amount of romantic old cities because they liked to murder in masses Germans and they lost their own empire in this way. And France had declared war on Germany when they had wiped out the Holy Empire of German Nation under the mass-murderer and criminal gnome Napoleon Bonaparte. He became in later times of his life the emperor of Elba. By the way: Why not to send czar Putin forever to Elba? Together with Donald Trump? Putin could teach him chess,

 

[zaangalewa]

Actually, their treaty with Poland applied for a German attack only, not any other.

You are really funny, Nazi and slave of Putin. Ask the Polish about their experiences with Russia and how their Slavic brother nation had "liberated" them.