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Agreed. But GHGs are what we are changing for the worse. They are the problem. Even if they only add a couple of degrees, to the many degrees of total GHG warming, that's enough to tilt the climate from what mankind has adapted to, to some other climate. That will cost us a bundle, unless we can stop making things worse in time.
Pure simple economics but driven by very complex science to predict the dynamics of AGW.
Provably wrong. Our contribution to the global CO2 budget is miniscule. We likewise emit an infinitesimal fraction of the methane that so terrifies you all now (now that that damned CO2 isn't living up to its part of the bargain) and as we all know we don't add to the water vapor either. So no, your assertion is incorrect.
Miniscule? In 2010, 9.14 gigatonnes of carbon (33.5 gigatonnes of CO2) were released from fossil fuel combustion and cement production worldwide. An you think this is miniscule? Put the bottle down, son.
westwall said:Please spare us the hysteria junior. Compared to an atmosphere that weighs QUADRILLIONS of tons 33 billion tons is a pittance.
Finding out if a > 40 digit number is a prime number or not isn`t very hard to do these days, but falls way short of being able to predict it else we would indeed have to discard the cyphers that exploit this math-gap.But finding the everchanging next interval to a random number is NOT a periodic event. MAYBE a predictable event. When stuff oscillates or almost oscillates its because of well-known Linear System theory descriptions of Gain, Feedback, and Phasing.. Poles and Zeroes crap in linear equations --- if you know what I mean.. That kind of periodic.
Lead isn't melting on the surface of this earth. In the artic pole of this earth, water isn't melting either this time of year. And that ludicrous concentration of CO2? It is four-tenths of one millionth. That's not even a concentration. That's needle in a haystack stuff.westwall said:Please spare us the hysteria junior. Compared to an atmosphere that weighs QUADRILLIONS of tons 33 billion tons is a pittance.
Until you consider the potency of CO2 as a greenhouse gas. No doubt, you would prefer that we have the same concentration of CO2 in our atmosphere as Venus, where lead melts at the surface as a result! God, you are dumb.
Finding out if a > 40 digit number is a prime number or not isn`t very hard to do these days, but falls way short of being able to predict it else we would indeed have to discard the cyphers that exploit this math-gap.But finding the everchanging next interval to a random number is NOT a periodic event. MAYBE a predictable event. When stuff oscillates or almost oscillates its because of well-known Linear System theory descriptions of Gain, Feedback, and Phasing.. Poles and Zeroes crap in linear equations --- if you know what I mean.. That kind of periodic.
"Stuff oscillates" when a system can`t achieve an equilibrium in the first go..so now you get a wave sequence that will eventually dampen over time unless you feed more energy and do so at a the proper phase angle and with the right polarity.
Those of us who worked with older electronic components know that it does not take much to "stall" an RC resonant oscillator or have one fry itself if you don`t tune the positive feedback properly.
It`s no big problem to work out the time constants for oscillators, but it is still a big problem to design one that does not "drift"
The problem with "climate oscillations" is that they don`t conform with the "constants" that climatologists have assigned in the form of averages.
The only constants in that mix of "constants" are the mass, the shape and up to a degree the angular speeds of our planet..not much else remains constant.
Lead isn't melting on the surface of this earth. In the artic pole of this earth, water isn't melting either this time of year. And that ludicrous concentration of CO2? It is four-tenths of one millionth. That's not even a concentration. That's needle in a haystack stuff.westwall said:Please spare us the hysteria junior. Compared to an atmosphere that weighs QUADRILLIONS of tons 33 billion tons is a pittance.
Until you consider the potency of CO2 as a greenhouse gas. No doubt, you would prefer that we have the same concentration of CO2 in our atmosphere as Venus, where lead melts at the surface as a result! God, you are dumb.
Get a grip.
I took a chemistry class in college. The professor learned my name after I made the highest score on the final because I studied and worked hard.Lead isn't melting on the surface of this earth. In the artic pole of this earth, water isn't melting either this time of year. And that ludicrous concentration of CO2? It is four-tenths of one millionth. That's not even a concentration. That's needle in a haystack stuff.Until you consider the potency of CO2 as a greenhouse gas. No doubt, you would prefer that we have the same concentration of CO2 in our atmosphere as Venus, where lead melts at the surface as a result! God, you are dumb.
Get a grip.
Take a chemistry class. Not that YOU will actually learn anything from it.
Thanks, Archie Bunker, for not seeing yourself as others see you.Denialists depend on the red herring of complexity to lead the dogs off the trail of simple truth.
Sure can tell who the socialists and communists are on this thread.
I took a chemistry class in college. The professor learned my name after I made the highest score on the final because I studied and worked hard.Lead isn't melting on the surface of this earth. In the artic pole of this earth, water isn't melting either this time of year. And that ludicrous concentration of CO2? It is four-tenths of one millionth. That's not even a concentration. That's needle in a haystack stuff.
Get a grip.
Take a chemistry class. Not that YOU will actually learn anything from it.
You could appear less confused if you could compute math in your head and understood proportions. That could make you less patronizing, possibly than you were when you wrote your last post's balderdash.
If I were as patronizing as you, I'd just tell you to not speak until spoken to. Aren't you glad I'm not stuffy like you apparatchiks who read from an agenda list that would please Al Bore, I mean, Gore.
I took a chemistry class in college. The professor learned my name after I made the highest score on the final because I studied and worked hard.Lead isn't melting on the surface of this earth. In the artic pole of this earth, water isn't melting either this time of year. And that ludicrous concentration of CO2? It is four-tenths of one millionth. That's not even a concentration. That's needle in a haystack stuff.
Get a grip.
Take a chemistry class. Not that YOU will actually learn anything from it.
You could appear less confused if you could compute math in your head and understood proportions. That could make you less patronizing, possibly than you were when you wrote your last post's balderdash.
If I were as patronizing as you, I'd just tell you to not speak until spoken to. Aren't you glad I'm not stuffy like you apparatchiks who read from an agenda list that would please Al Bore, I mean, Gore.
When those who proffer the theme issues of those who change data, it is an honor to come under their vapid discreditations.I took a chemistry class in college. The professor learned my name after I made the highest score on the final because I studied and worked hard.Take a chemistry class. Not that YOU will actually learn anything from it.
You could appear less confused if you could compute math in your head and understood proportions. That could make you less patronizing, possibly than you were when you wrote your last post's balderdash.
If I were as patronizing as you, I'd just tell you to not speak until spoken to. Aren't you glad I'm not stuffy like you apparatchiks who read from an agenda list that would please Al Bore, I mean, Gore.
I personally believe that you have earned being patronized.
When those who proffer the theme issues of those who change data, it is an honor to come under their vapid discreditations.I took a chemistry class in college. The professor learned my name after I made the highest score on the final because I studied and worked hard.
You could appear less confused if you could compute math in your head and understood proportions. That could make you less patronizing, possibly than you were when you wrote your last post's balderdash.
If I were as patronizing as you, I'd just tell you to not speak until spoken to. Aren't you glad I'm not stuffy like you apparatchiks who read from an agenda list that would please Al Bore, I mean, Gore.
I personally believe that you have earned being patronized.
When those who proffer the theme issues of those who change data, it is an honor to come under their vapid discreditations.I personally believe that you have earned being patronized.
Those who believe that raw data offers the most insight, always, are not scientists.
When those who proffer the theme issues of those who change data, it is an honor to come under their vapid discreditations.
Those who believe that raw data offers the most insight, always, are not scientists.
To get to where you're at with this subject, you need to trip over your politics, dude.
It's the only area where your ilk can get any footing with our government.
Those who believe that raw data offers the most insight, always, are not scientists.
To get to where you're at with this subject, you need to trip over your politics, dude.
It's the only area where your ilk can get any footing with our government.
The corporate politics of peak oil is the entire basis of your position. Climate science, the basis of mine.
To get to where you're at with this subject, you need to trip over your politics, dude.
It's the only area where your ilk can get any footing with our government.
The corporate politics of peak oil is the entire basis of your position. Climate science, the basis of mine.
As the scientists that once believed in man made global warming are jumping the ship because of the manipulated and faulty data and the evidence that it just never came to fruition, you're just lingering on your politics, sonny. It's all you have left. It's okay, I get it.
