Pelosi Suggests Delaying State of the Union

[Ame®icano]

Correct. President can write the letter. Or may just deliver SOTU speech on the House floor, as Constitution allows him. Speaker have no power over constitutional rights.

There is no specific time given in the Constitution and Pelosi has control over activities in the House as Speaker.

Trump can claim it's "extraordinary occasion" and plow his way into House, regardless of what Pelosi think.

Nope, he can’t. The Speaker of the House decides who speaks at the House dais.

I tried to educate you. Sadly, you’re ineducable.

Utter bullshit. You tried to sell me balls for kidneys, and I refused.

US Constitution, Article, 2, Section 3. Read it.

 

[Faun]

Correct. President can write the letter. Or may just deliver SOTU speech on the House floor, as Constitution allows him. Speaker have no power over constitutional rights.

There is no specific time given in the Constitution and Pelosi has control over activities in the House as Speaker.

Trump can claim it's "extraordinary occasion" and plow his way into House, regardless of what Pelosi think.

Nope, he can’t. The Speaker of the House decides who speaks at the House dais.

I tried to educate you. Sadly, you’re ineducable.

Utter bullshit. You tried to sell me balls for kidneys, and I refused.

US Constitution, Article, 2, Section 3. Read it.

LOLOL

You remain rightarded .... and Pelosi remains in charge of who can speak in the chamber she’s now in charge of.

 

[basquebromance]

the state of the union matters...BUT THE STATE OF THE STREETS MATTERS MORE!

the state of the streets says they all need to be in a room until the government opens.

the state of the streets says its absurd that in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, a record number of people live in poverty.

can i get an Amen?

 

[eagle1462010]

The State of the Union is a Ceremony and nothing more...........But more people tend to watch than other events.........But still most look at Cable better to watch events...........LOL

In the end.............Pelosi wants less out to the main public on what their real intentions are today...........which is to fight against ANYTHING that tries to stop the flood of illegals into this country. A few simple laws to get rid of the loop holes, ENFORCED.......and the problem would mostly go away...........As long as the loop holes are there and Sanctuaries ENCOURAGE them to come............Well...........they are going to keep coming. If they realize that they can't work, or use the loop holes...........They would stop coming. The drugs...........well that will continue to flow.........Security measures at the border are part of a layered defense that henders the flow............doesn't end it............Makes it harder for it to get here.

This is all a show................Had they really wanted to fix it...........Would have been done decades ago..........It is clear.........the cheap illegal workers must flow........and for votes of course...........

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

At his age? He'd embarrass himself.

As much as Trump trying to write and talk like an educated adult? Nah, I doubt it.

But it's fascinating how quickly you agree with and accept the fact that Trump is an incapable moron.

 

[hadit]

At his age? He'd embarrass himself.

As much as Trump trying to write and talk like an educated adult? Nah, I doubt it.

But it's fascinating how quickly you agree with and accept the fact that Trump is an incapable moron.

Interesting that's what you got from that. Dumb, but interesting. You might want to see someone about that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Interesting that's what you got from that.

Correct, because that is what you did. Furthermore, you embarrassed yourself by comparing basketball ability to intellectual ability...that's the kind of dumb shit you cultists do when you have to vomit something in a panic to protect your cult leader, but are too lazy to think it through.

 

[hadit]

Interesting that's what you got from that.

Correct, because that is what you did. Furthermore, you embarrassed yourself by comparing basketball ability to intellectual ability...that's the kind of dumb shit you cultists do when you have to vomit something in a panic to protect your cult leader, but are too lazy to think it through.

And the point went over your head.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Oh I think Nancy already suggested a great idea. Have Trump write a SOTU address and give it to Congress. That fulfills his responsibilities. I would go on national TV and give it to the public from the White House. Simply bypass the House of Representatives.

I like the idea of him hosting the State of the Union address in a venue of his choice and issuing invitations to the Congressmembers that they can come hear it, or not if they're "too afraid", but making it clear that their presence and cooperation isn't necessary. After all, so long as he sends a transcript of it to their offices afterward, his Constitutional duty is fulfilled.

And since it's HIS party, they don't get to do their usual, nauseating song and dance of inviting various meat puppets to accompany them for virtue-signaling purposes.

No.

First of all, Pelosi lied that is security issue, since she hasn't check neither with Secret Service, or DHS can they provide the security, which they both stated it wouldn't be an issue.

Second, according to the Constitution, Article 2, Section 3. State of the Union, Convening Congress:

"He shall (President) from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."

... President is within his constitutional rights, and Pelosi has no right to deny him a SOTU.

SOTU was a written letter to Congress for a very long time.

Correct. President can write the letter. Or may just deliver SOTU speech on the House floor, as Constitution allows him. Speaker have no power over constitutional rights.

No, the Constitution says nothing about delivering a speech in House chambers. This is why the Speaker's office issues the President an invitation to appear.

 

[Faun]

Oh I think Nancy already suggested a great idea. Have Trump write a SOTU address and give it to Congress. That fulfills his responsibilities. I would go on national TV and give it to the public from the White House. Simply bypass the House of Representatives.

I like the idea of him hosting the State of the Union address in a venue of his choice and issuing invitations to the Congressmembers that they can come hear it, or not if they're "too afraid", but making it clear that their presence and cooperation isn't necessary. After all, so long as he sends a transcript of it to their offices afterward, his Constitutional duty is fulfilled.

And since it's HIS party, they don't get to do their usual, nauseating song and dance of inviting various meat puppets to accompany them for virtue-signaling purposes.

No.

First of all, Pelosi lied that is security issue, since she hasn't check neither with Secret Service, or DHS can they provide the security, which they both stated it wouldn't be an issue.

Second, according to the Constitution, Article 2, Section 3. State of the Union, Convening Congress:

"He shall (President) from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."

... President is within his constitutional rights, and Pelosi has no right to deny him a SOTU.

SOTU was a written letter to Congress for a very long time.

Correct. President can write the letter. Or may just deliver SOTU speech on the House floor, as Constitution allows him. Speaker have no power over constitutional rights.

No, the Constitution says nothing about delivering a speech in House chambers. This is why the Speaker's office issues the President an invitation to appear.

That’s been explained to him numerous times. Along with the House rules which determine the Speaker of the House is also in charge of who may speak from the dais in the House chamber. He just doesn’t get it.

 

[Ame®icano]

Oh I think Nancy already suggested a great idea. Have Trump write a SOTU address and give it to Congress. That fulfills his responsibilities. I would go on national TV and give it to the public from the White House. Simply bypass the House of Representatives.

I like the idea of him hosting the State of the Union address in a venue of his choice and issuing invitations to the Congressmembers that they can come hear it, or not if they're "too afraid", but making it clear that their presence and cooperation isn't necessary. After all, so long as he sends a transcript of it to their offices afterward, his Constitutional duty is fulfilled.

And since it's HIS party, they don't get to do their usual, nauseating song and dance of inviting various meat puppets to accompany them for virtue-signaling purposes.

No.

First of all, Pelosi lied that is security issue, since she hasn't check neither with Secret Service, or DHS can they provide the security, which they both stated it wouldn't be an issue.

Second, according to the Constitution, Article 2, Section 3. State of the Union, Convening Congress:

"He shall (President) from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."

... President is within his constitutional rights, and Pelosi has no right to deny him a SOTU.

SOTU was a written letter to Congress for a very long time.

Correct. President can write the letter. Or may just deliver SOTU speech on the House floor, as Constitution allows him. Speaker have no power over constitutional rights.

No, the Constitution says nothing about delivering a speech in House chambers. This is why the Speaker's office issues the President an invitation to appear.

"he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper"

It looks he can go to Congress whenever he wants, by just mentioning word "extraordinary".

 

[saveliberty]

"he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper"

It looks he can go to Congress whenever he wants, by just mentioning word "extraordinary".

Enough with the friendly fire. If he can go whenever he wants, its not extraordinary now is it?

 

[Ame®icano]

"he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper"

It looks he can go to Congress whenever he wants, by just mentioning word "extraordinary".

Enough with the friendly fire. If he can go whenever he wants, its not extraordinary now is it?

Normally, Presidents do not get disinvited by the Speaker, that is already making it extraordinary enough.

 

[saveliberty]

Normally, Presidents do not get disinvited by the Speaker, that is already making it extraordinary enough.

For the sake of not arguing with you, sure, sounds great.

 

[ABikerSailor]

"he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper"

It looks he can go to Congress whenever he wants, by just mentioning word "extraordinary".

Enough with the friendly fire. If he can go whenever he wants, its not extraordinary now is it?

Normally, Presidents do not get disinvited by the Speaker, that is already making it extraordinary enough.

It's also extraordinary because Trump did a partial shutdown of the government.

Anyone ever consider the fact that Secret Service is part of Homeland Security, and those people have been working for the past month without pay? Of course Pelosi said that there is a possible security breach. People who have bills to pay are more susceptible to bribery and the like when they aren't getting paid. The chances of a SS agent getting bribed to breach security is kinda high.

Trump should just do what other presidents have done and submit it to Congress via written letter.

 

[Ame®icano]

"he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper"

It looks he can go to Congress whenever he wants, by just mentioning word "extraordinary".

Enough with the friendly fire. If he can go whenever he wants, its not extraordinary now is it?

Normally, Presidents do not get disinvited by the Speaker, that is already making it extraordinary enough.

It's also extraordinary because Trump did a partial shutdown of the government.

Anyone ever consider the fact that Secret Service is part of Homeland Security, and those people have been working for the past month without pay? Of course Pelosi said that there is a possible security breach. People who have bills to pay are more susceptible to bribery and the like when they aren't getting paid. The chances of a SS agent getting bribed to breach security is kinda high.

Trump should just do what other presidents have done and submit it to Congress via written letter.

That's what left prefer him to do, so they avoid giving him national attention where he can public ally call them out, one by one.

Technically, since Trump issued EO for back pay, they're not working for free, their paycheck is just delayed.

 

[Faun]

I like the idea of him hosting the State of the Union address in a venue of his choice and issuing invitations to the Congressmembers that they can come hear it, or not if they're "too afraid", but making it clear that their presence and cooperation isn't necessary. After all, so long as he sends a transcript of it to their offices afterward, his Constitutional duty is fulfilled.

And since it's HIS party, they don't get to do their usual, nauseating song and dance of inviting various meat puppets to accompany them for virtue-signaling purposes.

No.

First of all, Pelosi lied that is security issue, since she hasn't check neither with Secret Service, or DHS can they provide the security, which they both stated it wouldn't be an issue.

Second, according to the Constitution, Article 2, Section 3. State of the Union, Convening Congress:

"He shall (President) from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."

... President is within his constitutional rights, and Pelosi has no right to deny him a SOTU.

SOTU was a written letter to Congress for a very long time.

Correct. President can write the letter. Or may just deliver SOTU speech on the House floor, as Constitution allows him. Speaker have no power over constitutional rights.

No, the Constitution says nothing about delivering a speech in House chambers. This is why the Speaker's office issues the President an invitation to appear.

"he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper"

It looks he can go to Congress whenever he wants, by just mentioning word "extraordinary".

The “State of the Union” address is not an “extraordinary occasion,” it’s a regular occasion.

 

[ABikerSailor]

"he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper"

It looks he can go to Congress whenever he wants, by just mentioning word "extraordinary".

Enough with the friendly fire. If he can go whenever he wants, its not extraordinary now is it?

Normally, Presidents do not get disinvited by the Speaker, that is already making it extraordinary enough.

It's also extraordinary because Trump did a partial shutdown of the government.

Anyone ever consider the fact that Secret Service is part of Homeland Security, and those people have been working for the past month without pay? Of course Pelosi said that there is a possible security breach. People who have bills to pay are more susceptible to bribery and the like when they aren't getting paid. The chances of a SS agent getting bribed to breach security is kinda high.

Trump should just do what other presidents have done and submit it to Congress via written letter.

That's what left prefer him to do, so they avoid giving him national attention where he can public ally call them out, one by one.

Technically, since Trump issued EO for back pay, they're not working for free, their paycheck is just delayed.

Yeah, I know, their paycheck is just delayed. But, I went through the shutdown in the mid 90's, and know that having a check delayed can be a hassle, especially when you live paycheck to paycheck (like most govt employees). Are their landlords going to be willing to wait? Can the hunger pangs wait until they get paid?

 

[saveliberty]

Yeah, I know, their paycheck is just delayed. But, I went through the shutdown in the mid 90's, and know that having a check delayed can be a hassle, especially when you live paycheck to paycheck (like most govt employees). Are their landlords going to be willing to wait? Can the hunger pangs wait until they get paid?

Everyone should be whole by the end of this. The hard part would be feeling unappreciated through the delay in pay. With the Democratic leadership agreeing to the concept years ago, I have a hard time not blaming them for this after compromise plans have been given by Trump.

 

[Ame®icano]

No.

First of all, Pelosi lied that is security issue, since she hasn't check neither with Secret Service, or DHS can they provide the security, which they both stated it wouldn't be an issue.

Second, according to the Constitution, Article 2, Section 3. State of the Union, Convening Congress:

"He shall (President) from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."

... President is within his constitutional rights, and Pelosi has no right to deny him a SOTU.

SOTU was a written letter to Congress for a very long time.

Correct. President can write the letter. Or may just deliver SOTU speech on the House floor, as Constitution allows him. Speaker have no power over constitutional rights.

No, the Constitution says nothing about delivering a speech in House chambers. This is why the Speaker's office issues the President an invitation to appear.

"he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper"

It looks he can go to Congress whenever he wants, by just mentioning word "extraordinary".

The “State of the Union” address is not an “extraordinary occasion,” it’s a regular occasion.

Where I said it has to be "State of the Union" address? He can have "extraordinary" emergency address to Congress, and demand every Congressman and Senator to be there, just to deliver "extraordinary occasion" speech, just as Constitution allows him to.