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Such a big heart ole Big Brother has, huh?
This summer, 13-year-old Nathan Duszynski wanted to make some money to help out his disabled parentshis mom has epilepsy and his dad has multiple sclerosis. So he decided to open a hot dog stand. He saved $1,200, mostly money made by mowing lawns and shoveling snow. He checked with the city to make sure he didn't need any licenses or permits, even going to city hall in person with his mom. And then he bought a cart. (Yep, that's hot dogs from Nathan's, for those who are keeping score at home.)
He arrived to set up shop on his first day and 10 minutes later, a zoning official arrived to shut him down. The problem: The cart, which is in the parking lot of a sporting goods store, is on the edge of official downtown commercial district of Holland, Michigan. The city bans food carts in that area in order to minimize competition for the eight tax-paying restaurants a couple of blocks away.
As it happens, I've been to Holland. It's a lovely town, but not exactly a booming metropolis. And frankly (ha!), after an evening of Blue Motorcycles Butch's Dry Dock, a hot dog would really have hit the spot. The city says it is willing to work with Nathan, but keeping food carts out of the small, walkable downtown area is pretty much the same thing as banning food carts altogether. Nathan and his family obviously know that: The hot dog cart is now for sale.
The Mackinac Center has made a nice little video about the ridiculous story:
City Shuts Down Teen's Hot Dog Vendor Cart! - YouTube
He should sue the city for the cost of his time and his hot dog stand and lost revenue. He checked with them first and they gave him the wrong answer.
Such a big heart ole Big Brother has, huh?
This summer, 13-year-old Nathan Duszynski wanted to make some money to help out his disabled parentshis mom has epilepsy and his dad has multiple sclerosis. So he decided to open a hot dog stand. He saved $1,200, mostly money made by mowing lawns and shoveling snow. He checked with the city to make sure he didn't need any licenses or permits, even going to city hall in person with his mom. And then he bought a cart. (Yep, that's hot dogs from Nathan's, for those who are keeping score at home.)
He arrived to set up shop on his first day and 10 minutes later, a zoning official arrived to shut him down. The problem: The cart, which is in the parking lot of a sporting goods store, is on the edge of official downtown commercial district of Holland, Michigan. The city bans food carts in that area in order to minimize competition for the eight tax-paying restaurants a couple of blocks away.
As it happens, I've been to Holland. It's a lovely town, but not exactly a booming metropolis. And frankly (ha!), after an evening of Blue Motorcycles Butch's Dry Dock, a hot dog would really have hit the spot. The city says it is willing to work with Nathan, but keeping food carts out of the small, walkable downtown area is pretty much the same thing as banning food carts altogether. Nathan and his family obviously know that: The hot dog cart is now for sale.
The Mackinac Center has made a nice little video about the ridiculous story:
City Shuts Down Teen's Hot Dog Vendor Cart! - YouTube
He should sue the city for the cost of his time and his hot dog stand and lost revenue. He checked with them first and they gave him the wrong answer.
He will need a Guardian to sue, and as a 13 year old cannot enter a valid contract, whoever spent his money should be the subject of an investigation. Perhaps the city is liable for some amount IF an AUTHORIZED adult was given incorrect advice (in writing) and invested the child's funds in reliance thereon. Other than that, he may require a Guardian period, a 13 year old child should not be in a position to "spend" that kind of money.
The people you're referring to, doing the zoning, were ELECTED. Maybe the restaurant owners were big campaign donors;
maybe the free speech power of their money, a cherished conservative principle, got them the no-carts deal.
OK first of all, knowing how stupid you are, I know you wont understand.
See zoning laws are INTENDED for REAL businesses, not some kid doing yardwork, or a lemonade stand. Most people dont have to have it written in a legal matter, becasue we just kind of understand that. People who do need it in writing are pricks....and I dont care if they're republican or democrat. In fact run on keeping those lemonade stands down, I promise you politicians will be running from that position, because it means you're an asshole who has no soul. So while you think democrats are perfect and can do no wrong, they can and so can republicans......DUH DUH DUUUUUH
So the point is why are the commissioners worried about this? How about we make a rule, if you're under 18 you dont need a perment, sound fair?
You apparently, and not surprisingly, don't know that food carts are real food service businesses.
Keep it up. lol
Here's an idea, why doesn't Big Brother just leave this kid alone? For that matter, why doesn't he just leave the American People alone? I know this is a radical & subversive idea, but what the hell, why not give it a shot Big Brother?
so you support selective enforcement of laws/rules?
He should sue the city for the cost of his time and his hot dog stand and lost revenue. He checked with them first and they gave him the wrong answer.
He will need a Guardian to sue, and as a 13 year old cannot enter a valid contract, whoever spent his money should be the subject of an investigation. Perhaps the city is liable for some amount IF an AUTHORIZED adult was given incorrect advice (in writing) and invested the child's funds in reliance thereon. Other than that, he may require a Guardian period, a 13 year old child should not be in a position to "spend" that kind of money.
What a nurturing mentor you would be for Junior Achievement.
Here's an idea, why doesn't Big Brother just leave this kid alone? For that matter, why doesn't he just leave the American People alone? I know this is a radical & subversive idea, but what the hell, why not give it a shot Big Brother?
so you support selective enforcement of laws/rules?
His point was it's a 13 year old kid, have some perspective
so you support selective enforcement of laws/rules?
His point was it's a 13 year old kid, have some perspective
When it comes to restricting the economic freedom of folks, leftists are 100% by the book law enforcers.. Not so much when it comes to Congressional ethics, election law, the Constitution or anything else that YOU and I consider important..
Such a big heart ole Big Brother has, huh?
This summer, 13-year-old Nathan Duszynski wanted to make some money to help out his disabled parentshis mom has epilepsy and his dad has multiple sclerosis. So he decided to open a hot dog stand. He saved $1,200, mostly money made by mowing lawns and shoveling snow. He checked with the city to make sure he didn't need any licenses or permits, even going to city hall in person with his mom. And then he bought a cart. (Yep, that's hot dogs from Nathan's, for those who are keeping score at home.)
He arrived to set up shop on his first day and 10 minutes later, a zoning official arrived to shut him down. The problem: The cart, which is in the parking lot of a sporting goods store, is on the edge of official downtown commercial district of Holland, Michigan. The city bans food carts in that area in order to minimize competition for the eight tax-paying restaurants a couple of blocks away.
As it happens, I've been to Holland. It's a lovely town, but not exactly a booming metropolis. And frankly (ha!), after an evening of Blue Motorcycles Butch's Dry Dock, a hot dog would really have hit the spot. The city says it is willing to work with Nathan, but keeping food carts out of the small, walkable downtown area is pretty much the same thing as banning food carts altogether. Nathan and his family obviously know that: The hot dog cart is now for sale.
The Mackinac Center has made a nice little video about the ridiculous story:
City Shuts Down Teen's Hot Dog Vendor Cart! - YouTube
He should sue the city for the cost of his time and his hot dog stand and lost revenue. He checked with them first and they gave him the wrong answer.
Your lack of understanding of the facts of the case is comical.
His point was it's a 13 year old kid, have some perspective
When it comes to restricting the economic freedom of folks, leftists are 100% by the book law enforcers.. Not so much when it comes to Congressional ethics, election law, the Constitution or anything else that YOU and I consider important..
You believe 13 year children should be allowed to spend thousands of dollars as they wish.....ODD. Children are appointed GUARDIANS to handle large sums of money, at least in this country. Your nation may differ in its "traditions".
"12 year old denied the right to pawn diamond for a baseball glove, protests erupt in Des Moines over the restriction of Bobby Offspring's 'civil rights' "
OK first of all, knowing how stupid you are, I know you wont understand.
See zoning laws are INTENDED for REAL businesses, not some kid doing yardwork, or a lemonade stand. Most people dont have to have it written in a legal matter, becasue we just kind of understand that. People who do need it in writing are pricks....and I dont care if they're republican or democrat. In fact run on keeping those lemonade stands down, I promise you politicians will be running from that position, because it means you're an asshole who has no soul. So while you think democrats are perfect and can do no wrong, they can and so can republicans......DUH DUH DUUUUUH
So the point is why are the commissioners worried about this? How about we make a rule, if you're under 18 you dont need a perment, sound fair?
You apparently, and not surprisingly, don't know that food carts are real food service businesses.
Keep it up. lol
No I dont care, thats not a real buisness...a cart?yeah I see so many, at the fair, that's about it....I live in Memphis, you dont really see those around here, if you want food you go INTO a restaurant... So a 6 year old with a lemonade stand should incorporate? And it's a 13 year old, while I dont think we should be lax on them in criminal matters, this is rediculous
He will need a Guardian to sue, and as a 13 year old cannot enter a valid contract, whoever spent his money should be the subject of an investigation. Perhaps the city is liable for some amount IF an AUTHORIZED adult was given incorrect advice (in writing) and invested the child's funds in reliance thereon. Other than that, he may require a Guardian period, a 13 year old child should not be in a position to "spend" that kind of money.
What a nurturing mentor you would be for Junior Achievement.
Yes, I understand 13 yer old children should not be allowed to spend $1,200 on whatever they wish. And I realize 13 year old children cannot enter into contracts, that has been overlooked in this "story".
You apparently, and not surprisingly, don't know that food carts are real food service businesses.
Keep it up. lol
No I dont care, thats not a real buisness...a cart?yeah I see so many, at the fair, that's about it....I live in Memphis, you dont really see those around here, if you want food you go INTO a restaurant... So a 6 year old with a lemonade stand should incorporate? And it's a 13 year old, while I dont think we should be lax on them in criminal matters, this is rediculous
Actually my cousins ex-husband made over $700 a day with his cart. He wrked 11:00am - 3:00 pm Monday thru Friday he didn't work weekends.
so you support selective enforcement of laws/rules?
His point was it's a 13 year old kid, have some perspective
When it comes to restricting the economic freedom of folks, leftists are 100% by the book law enforcers.. Not so much when it comes to Congressional ethics, election law, the Constitution or anything else that YOU and I consider important..
When it comes to restricting the economic freedom of folks, leftists are 100% by the book law enforcers.. Not so much when it comes to Congressional ethics, election law, the Constitution or anything else that YOU and I consider important..
You believe 13 year children should be allowed to spend thousands of dollars as they wish.....ODD. Children are appointed GUARDIANS to handle large sums of money, at least in this country. Your nation may differ in its "traditions".
"12 year old denied the right to pawn diamond for a baseball glove, protests erupt in Des Moines over the restriction of Bobby Offspring's 'civil rights' "
Absolutely I believe that. You DO KNOW about Junior Achievement, FFarmersAmer, and dozens of other programs to teach kids at that age how the market works -- RIGHT? Even sponsored by Big Govt. Not unusual for PARENTS to invest in young talent. And the RETURN depends on the COOPERATION of the young artist, athelete, drama queen, doesn't it? Aren't THEY the critical link in those investments.
Seems to me -- you've got some dam low expectations of what types of resolution and responsibility kids of that age are capable of..
I soloed an airplane at age 17.. A LOT of that money was self-earned. Sue me...
He will need a Guardian to sue, and as a 13 year old cannot enter a valid contract, whoever spent his money should be the subject of an investigation. Perhaps the city is liable for some amount IF an AUTHORIZED adult was given incorrect advice (in writing) and invested the child's funds in reliance thereon. Other than that, he may require a Guardian period, a 13 year old child should not be in a position to "spend" that kind of money.
What a nurturing mentor you would be for Junior Achievement.
Yes, I understand 13 yer old children should not be allowed to spend $1,200 on whatever they wish. And I realize 13 year old children cannot enter into contracts, that has been overlooked in this "story".
When it comes to restricting the economic freedom of folks, leftists are 100% by the book law enforcers.. Not so much when it comes to Congressional ethics, election law, the Constitution or anything else that YOU and I consider important..
You believe 13 year children should be allowed to spend thousands of dollars as they wish.....ODD. Children are appointed GUARDIANS to handle large sums of money, at least in this country. Your nation may differ in its "traditions".
"12 year old denied the right to pawn diamond for a baseball glove, protests erupt in Des Moines over the restriction of Bobby Offspring's 'civil rights' "
Absolutely I believe that. You DO KNOW about Junior Achievement, FFarmersAmer, and dozens of other programs to teach kids at that age how the market works -- RIGHT? Even sponsored by Big Govt. Not unusual for PARENTS to invest in young talent. And the RETURN depends on the COOPERATION of the young artist, athelete, drama queen, doesn't it? Aren't THEY the critical link in those investments.
Seems to me -- you've got some dam low expectations of what types of resolution and responsibility kids of that age are capable of..
I soloed an airplane at age 17.. A LOT of that money was self-earned. Sue me...
You apparently, and not surprisingly, don't know that food carts are real food service businesses.
Keep it up. lol
No I dont care, thats not a real buisness...a cart?yeah I see so many, at the fair, that's about it....I live in Memphis, you dont really see those around here, if you want food you go INTO a restaurant... So a 6 year old with a lemonade stand should incorporate? And it's a 13 year old, while I dont think we should be lax on them in criminal matters, this is rediculous
Actually my cousins ex-husband made over $700 a day with his cart. He wrked 11:00am - 3:00 pm Monday thru Friday he didn't work weekends.
