Political billboard compares Obama to Hitler

A non-answer and ad hom. That's what ideologues who are blind to the negative consequences of their ideology do when faced with them.
Ad hom my foot...The notion of 6-year old chimney sweeps and elderly people living and dying in the streets in caricature straight out of a Dickens novel.

Child labor laws, Social Security, and Medicare happened in the real world.
That Socialist Insecurity and Medicare/Medicaid happened outside the amendment process merely makes my point, not yours.


Child labor laws?!?!?!?

Are the actual verifiable successes of the left so few and far between that y'all have to keep going back to that old chestnut?...I mean really?
 
Here comes TM.

There goes the neighborhood ...

I'm up wayyyyyyy too late again.

G'night.
 
Nonsense.

You really need to stop getting your version of history from Dickens novels.

A non-answer and ad hom. That's what ideologues who are blind to the negative consequences of their ideology do when faced with them.
Ad hom my foot...The notion of 6-year old chimney sweeps and elderly people living and dying in the streets in caricature straight out of a Dickens novel.

Except these things actually happened. William Blake wrote about kids as chimney sweeps decades before Dickens ever did. What Dickens wrote fiction, but this stuff did happen in the Victorian age and earlier.
 
Child Labor in U.S. History - The Child Labor Education Project




Child Labor in U.S. History

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Forms of child labor, including indentured servitude and child slavery, have existed throughout American history. As industrialization moved workers from farms and home workshops into urban areas and factory work, children were often preferred, because factory owners viewed them as more manageable, cheaper, and less likely to strike. Growing opposition to child labor in the North caused many factories to move to the South. By 1900, states varied considerably in whether they had child labor standards and in their content and degree of enforcement. By then, American children worked in large numbers in mines, glass factories, textiles, agriculture, canneries, home industries, and as newsboys, messengers, bootblacks, and peddlers.
Speaking of two sides of the coin, have you ever heard surnames like Weaver, Miller, Miner, Baker, Sawyer, Cook, Brewer, and the like?

Turns out that a lot of that eeeeeevil child labor was performed by offspring working the family trade.
 
A non-answer and ad hom. That's what ideologues who are blind to the negative consequences of their ideology do when faced with them.
Ad hom my foot...The notion of 6-year old chimney sweeps and elderly people living and dying in the streets in caricature straight out of a Dickens novel.

Except these things actually happened. William Blake wrote about kids as chimney sweeps decades before Dickens ever did. What Dickens wrote fiction, but this stuff did happen in the Victorian age and earlier.
See my last post.
 
There they are trying to rewrite history again.

This is why the right hates it when we spend tax dollars on education.

people learn the real history and their arguments fail.
 
In the early decades of the twentieth century, the numbers of child laborers in the U.S. peaked. Child labor began to decline as the labor and reform movements grew and labor standards in general began improving, increasing the political power of working people and other social reformers to demand legislation regulating child labor. Union organizing and child labor reform were often intertwined, and common initiatives were conducted by organizations led by working women and middle class consumers, such as state Consumers’ Leagues and Working Women’s Societies. These organizations generated the National Consumers’ League in 1899 and the National Child Labor Committee in 1904, which shared goals of challenging child labor, including through anti-sweatshop campaigns and labeling programs. The National Child Labor Committee’s work to end child labor was combined with efforts to provide free, compulsory education for all children, and culminated in the passage of the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1938, which set federal standards for child labor.



http://www.continuetolearn.uiowa.edu/laborctr/child_labor/about/us_history.html

Yeah it was only families who worked their own kids.

rewriting history is no longer going to work for you people.
 
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As long as we're strolling down memory lane, let's go back and explore the days when the KKK was the enforcement/terrorist arm of the Democratic party.
 
Ad hom my foot...The notion of 6-year old chimney sweeps and elderly people living and dying in the streets in caricature straight out of a Dickens novel.

Child labor laws, Social Security, and Medicare happened in the real world.
That Socialist Insecurity and Medicare/Medicaid happened outside the amendment process merely makes my point, not yours.


Child labor laws?!?!?!?

Are the actual verifiable successes of the left so few and far between that y'all have to keep going back to that old chestnut?...I mean really?

Not really as I have been saying that the Amendment process went the way of the dodo long ago and is pretty much irrelevant now.

The reason child labor laws as brought up was because were were talking about child labor.
 
Speaking of two sides of the coin, have you ever heard surnames like Weaver, Miller, Miner, Baker, Sawyer, Cook, Brewer, and the like?

Turns out that a lot of that eeeeeevil child labor were offspring working the family trade.

Are you suggesting that child labor laws were unnecessary or that they did NOT address a significant problem in America?
 
Child labor laws, Social Security, and Medicare happened in the real world.
That Socialist Insecurity and Medicare/Medicaid happened outside the amendment process merely makes my point, not yours.


Child labor laws?!?!?!?

Are the actual verifiable successes of the left so few and far between that y'all have to keep going back to that old chestnut?...I mean really?

Not really as I have been saying that the Amendment process went the way of the dodo long ago and is pretty much irrelevant now.

The reason child labor laws as brought up was because were were talking about child labor.
Wow.....Just wow. :doubt:
 
In the early decades of the twentieth century, the numbers of child laborers in the U.S. peaked. Child labor began to decline as the labor and reform movements grew and labor standards in general began improving, increasing the political power of working people and other social reformers to demand legislation regulating child labor. Union organizing and child labor reform were often intertwined, and common initiatives were conducted by organizations led by working women and middle class consumers, such as state Consumers’ Leagues and Working Women’s Societies. These organizations generated the National Consumers’ League in 1899 and the National Child Labor Committee in 1904, which shared goals of challenging child labor, including through anti-sweatshop campaigns and labeling programs. The National Child Labor Committee’s work to end child labor was combined with efforts to provide free, compulsory education for all children, and culminated in the passage of the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1938, which set federal standards for child labor.



Child Labor in U.S. History - The Child Labor Education Project

Yeah it was only families who worked their own kids.

rewriting history is no longer going to work for you people.

Thanks for reciting your 6th grade civics book for us.
 
We don't like to spend money on education because we spend ridiculous amounts on it now, and people like TM are the result.

Not a good investment. We did a better job of educating when teachers had to stay with the parents of their students and students used little slateboards for their work.
 
Speaking of two sides of the coin, have you ever heard surnames like Weaver, Miller, Miner, Baker, Sawyer, Cook, Brewer, and the like?

Turns out that a lot of that eeeeeevil child labor were offspring working the family trade.

Are you suggesting that child labor laws were unnecessary or that they did NOT address a significant problem in America?
I'm saying that there are two sides to every story and that children often worked alongside their parents in the family trade.

Are you suggesting that there's only one side of any story of merit and worth paying attention to?
 
Speaking of two sides of the coin, have you ever heard surnames like Weaver, Miller, Miner, Baker, Sawyer, Cook, Brewer, and the like?

Turns out that a lot of that eeeeeevil child labor were offspring working the family trade.

Are you suggesting that child labor laws were unnecessary or that they did NOT address a significant problem in America?
I'm saying that there are two sides to every story and that children often worked alongside their parents in the family trade.

Are you suggesting that there's only one side of any story of merit and worth paying attention to?

not at all. There are often many sides.... not all of them necessarily equal in importance.
 
We don't like to spend money on education because we spend ridiculous amounts on it now, and people like TM are the result.

Not a good investment. We did a better job of educating when teachers had to stay with the parents of their students and students used little slateboards for their work.

Well, seems like the teachers unions are throwing in the towel and conceding that they cannot educate, so... they'll just talk to the kids about pee-pees and wee-wees now. Which, BTW... would be a crime if you and I were to do it.

Oh, and hey kids, If Dad replaces Mom with some guy named Harold, that's normal too.
 
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Truthmatters,

Sweetie, in case you didn't notice I am arguing against the right in this thread ... you have a real bad habit of thinking I am arguing from the right instead of against it. I'm guessing it's because you are so damned rabid with hate that you can't see straight. Next time you have something to say to me post it on the boards and not my visitor page.

Now, I've been up since 7 o'clock last night and have to be up at that time again ... so fuck off you freakin' hack.
 

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