Politico: Carson lied about admission to West Point.

[Searcher44]

The OP title has instigated a barrage of what looks like much ado about nothing, unfortunately mostly from the left. I don't see convincing evidence for a lie here or anywhere I've looked. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Carson was guaranteed by someone admission to West Point with his ROTC record and his overall academic achievement. As I understand it appointment to West Point has traditionally often been a politicized accomplishment and a perk open to someone with an influential patron or patrons. As has been repeated ad infinitum he never claimed to have applied and been accepted. The way he tells it the offer seems to have come informally via Westmoreland. I think I'll give his 50 yr. old possible memory lapse a pass, maybe he did meet the General in Feb. and not on memorial day. And besides I'd just as soon Carson came through the primaries as the winner. In my judgement he'll be the easiest of the bunch for any Democrat to overwhelmingly defeat in the general. There's lots of other real negatives in his baggage to exploit. It's not worth wasting energy on this one particular iffy "lie".

 

[easyt65]

After being called out for lying by Carson's team they changed their headline / story...
ADMISSION of bad journalism/lying without the embarassing task of issuing a retraction / correction!!!

NO CREDIBILITY ANYMORE

 

[Mac1958]

Regardless of the degree to which the story is true, it will almost certainly achieve its goal.
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[easyt65]

I admit, I'm scared, but only because people would actually vote for a guy who believes such CRAZY shite.

People voted for a man who admitted he had been tutored by a communist, studied a famous socialist, was mentored by a racist hate-spewing anti-american, was friends with domestic terrorists, & hung out with criminals in Chicago.

They ignorantly voted for the man because they thought he would buy them gas for their car and new kitchens. They voted for him because they had the same color skin. They voted for the man again even though he intentionally, publicly, adopted a famous socialist symbol and slogan for his re-election campaign.

THAT is some scary shi'ite!

 

[easyt65]

Regardless of the degree to which the story is true, it will almost certainly achieve its goal.
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Don't think so...for the same reason the Liberals got their ass kicked in 2014 and why 'outsiders' are leading the GOP - people are sick and tired of this same old CRAP - the under-handed personal attacks, lies, and routine. They EXPECT this type if stuff, have been wondering when the desperate Libs were going to start, and will reject it.

 

[Mac1958]

Regardless of the degree to which the story is true, it will almost certainly achieve its goal..

Don't think so...for the same reason the Liberals got their ass kicked in 2014 and why 'outsiders' are leading the GOP - people are sick and tired of this same old CRAP - the under-handed personal attacks, lies, and routine. They EXPECT this type if stuff, have been wondering when the desperate Libs were going to start, and will reject it.

Yeah, could be, we'll see.

This could be something that would unite the GOP for a change.
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[JoeB131]

If so he's done. Bad news for Clinton.

So what do you think of her lie she came under sniper fire in Bosnia, does that matter to you?

I'd say that Hillary probably was treated with all sort of heightened security when she visited Bosnia . I'm sure she was surrounded by lots of men with guns and probably felt a lot less secure than she did in the White House.

Now, on Carson's West Point Story-

He claimed he was offered a "full scholarship". West Point doesn't have scholarships, they have appointments.

He claimed he was offered this by General Westmoreland. Except there's no record of Westmoreland visiting Detroit at the time mentioned.

 

[sealybobo]

I saw the article about carson on yahoo. In the comments, all the right wing dingbats posting the same thing. Like unto "politico, who trusts politico, what about benghazi, lefties are jealous, this proves lefties are commies. This guy's making too many booboos. Lying about being a juvenile delinquent and stabbing a friend; now the naval academy stuff; hey, how about when he said the egyptians used the pyramids for grain storage? He's starting to make palin sound almost intelligent. Maybe he'll make her his running mate

You can stop talking about Ben now. Ben is just a divisive distraction. They're using him (race) as a wedge issue. Meanwhile he doesn't have a chance.

 

[LeftofLeft]

If so he's done. Bad news for Clinton.

So what do you think of her lie she came under sniper fire in Bosnia, does that matter to you?

I'd say that Hillary probably was treated with all sort of heightened security when she visited Bosnia . I'm sure she was surrounded by lots of men with guns and probably felt a lot less secure than she did in the White House.

Now, on Carson's West Point Story-

He claimed he was offered a "full scholarship". West Point doesn't have scholarships, they have appointments.

He claimed he was offered this by General Westmoreland. Except there's no record of Westmoreland visiting Detroit at the time mentioned.

You have access to General Westmoreland's itinerary? There is a record for all of his whereabouts? Liar.

 

[kaz]

Then again Hillary is all that too and you want to call her Madam President, so it's not really a standard to you. The point I made to start with

And.....you have been OFF TOPIC to start with. You have deflected the attention to Hillary from your first post in this thread. You've done what all nutbags do when faced with an unpleasant fact about one of theirs. It's boring and lame. And you did it for an entire thread. Time after time. You loser, you

You are attacking Carson for something Hillary Leona Helmsley Clinton does all the time. And you will vote for her. As many times as you can. What you are saying about Carson is not a standard to you. You don't care about what he did, yet you are attacking Carson for it. You moonbats bring that up for Republicans all the time in defending Democrats. That's dead on topic, Holmes. You not giving a shit about what Carson did while you attack him for it.

You put it on, you own it, now get back in the Kommunist Klown Kar, Bozo

Nope. You are off topic. Plain and simple.

I've told you that Carson being untruthful isn't a determining factor for me. If he was not a batshit crazy nutbag, I'd give him some respect. But he is. In the end, you will vote for a batshit crazy person......and a liar.......and like it.

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You are full of shit, you usually are. It's dead on topic to anyone but a charter member of the Kommunist Klown Kar as you are.

And just to be clear, when Democrats respond when Republicans criticize them with that Republicans were worse when they did so and so, you are all over them like this. You object to doing that. Wow, I've never seen you do that. Not once, not ever

I don't jump on everyone who does this deflecting thing. Just when it is done to the degree that you have done here. It is all you have done.

When a democrat......or a liberal....deflects....I roll my eyes and sigh. It's boring no matter who does it. On occasion, I'll comment on it as I have done here.

But here is a fact. I don't do it. Unlike you, I know that it's boring and lame. It doesn't create anything interesting. Ya big dummy.

Asked and answered. That's a Klown post, bro. Now, back to the Kommunist Klown Kar for you

 

[LeftofLeft]

Military Academies do not offer scholarships...they offer appointments. It is not uncommon for a connected military personnel or politician to meet or be introduced to a prospective student and encourage him or her to apply and say, "I can get you in if you apply" or, "your credentials are sure to get you an appointment to the academy." Something along these lines took place with Dr. Carson and he referenced that in his autobiography as a scholarship offer.

This is not a lie. The Left is desperate to smear a Black Conservative that is not corrupt. This autobiography has been out there and Politico chose now to do its hit because Carson is leading. The Left will pull out all stops to keep a Black Conservative out of the White House.

 

[kaz]

In the end, you will vote for a batshit crazy person......and a liar.......and like it.

Yes, I know, you think libertarians are batshit crazy for thinking we can support ourselves rather than government doing it for us, you mentioned that. normal people like you know you can't make it on your own. In fairness, you're probably right.

Now go back to the seltzer and pies

Dummy. I've made it just fine. And.....you are not a libertarian. You are a republican. You vote republican and you support republican candidates. You have supported Carson in this thread by deflecting attention away from him. You are transparent.

Now....go ahead and lie some more.

I'm a "Republican." That's the worst word you know, isn't it? You're a big boy, you don't call people poopy pants anymore

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Now that politico lied, are they toast?

 

[kaz]

Military Academies do not offer scholarships...they offer appointments. It is not uncommon for a connected military personnel or politician to meet or be introduced to a prospective student and encourage him or her to apply and say, "I can get you in if you apply" or, "your credentials are sure to get you an appointment to the academy." Something along these lines took place with Dr. Carson and he referenced that in his autobiography as a scholarship offer.

This is not a lie. The Left is desperate to smear a Black Conservative that is not corrupt. This autobiography has been out there and Politico chose now to do its hit because Carson is leading. The Left will pull out all stops to keep a Black Conservative out of the White House.

Actually, you can't apply without a recommendation. My brother went to the Naval Academy. He was recommended by our local congressman. He couldn't even apply without that.

 

[kaz]

Now that politico lied, are they toast?

Hell yeah, if there's one thing a liberal can't tolerate it's a liar. It doesn't matter who you are. Lies are a one and done action for them.

We need a trying to hold in a laugh emoticon...

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I'm a "Republican." That's the worst word you know, isn't it?

The truth hurts

Ignorance and Arrogance
... For his supporters, one of Carson's greatest attributes is his soft-spoken humility. Yet what we really see in Carson is a compounding mix of ignorance and arrogance ...

When you watch Carson navigating the public square you see someone who is remarkably ignorant about huge swathes of human knowledge and particularly information about US government and public policy. But you also see someone who's quite confident he's very knowledgable. So he's both remarkably ignorant and either stunningly unaware of his ignorance or totally indifferent to it. You might even say he is militantly ignorant. In all aspects of life, that is a dangerous combination. And the combination is almost always rooted in arrogance. None of us know everything. And in a complex world, we don't need to. The key is having some realistic grasp of what you do know and what you don't know.

That not only helps you avoid big mistakes and embarrassing gaffes, it also helps you learn. Because you can't learn about things you think you already know ...

Ignorance and Arrogance

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The contortions by the libs and media are amazing. Turns out he didn't even lie. Now, clinton can lie about emails and its all good.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The contortions by the libs and media are amazing. Turns out he didn't even lie. Now, clinton can lie about emails and its all good.

How can claiming he was offered a scholarship when no scholarship was offered not be a lie?

If I say:

"I was offered a full scholarship to Cornell." (I never was, really)

Am I telling the truth? wtf?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The contortions by the libs and media are amazing. Turns out he didn't even lie. Now, clinton can lie about emails and its all good.

How can claiming he was offered a scholarship when no scholarship was offered not be a lie?

If I say:

"I was offered a full scholarship to Cornell." (I never was, really)

Am I telling the truth? wtf?

In your exact scenario, no, you aren't telling the truth.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The contortions by the libs and media are amazing. Turns out he didn't even lie. Now, clinton can lie about emails and its all good.

How can claiming he was offered a scholarship when no scholarship was offered not be a lie?

If I say:

"I was offered a full scholarship to Cornell." (I never was, really)

Am I telling the truth? wtf?

In your exact scenario, no, you aren't telling the truth.

And Carson said

"I was offered a full scholarship to West Point."

But he wasn't.

Therefore you cannot say he was telling the truth.