POLL: Serious question for Trump supporters: The Future

[westwall]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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It is the nature of political systems to fail. The usual method is collective government, to totalitarian government, to revolution, to republic, and then repeat. We were well on the way to a totalitarian State until trump came along. He has slowed the rot. It will never cease because mankind is greedy, and those in power always demand ever more power. But he has definitely slowed it down.

No other democracy has lasted over 200 yrs

~S~

Not true. Rome lasted for 482 years before the Roman Senate became so corrupt that they were deposed into a totalitarian State.

 

[Third Party]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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First, neither side gives an inch to the other, so there will be NO consensus. His impact will be the large amount of judges he had confirmed-the rest is temporary like Reagan's economy or Bush's collapse. His methods resemble certain negotiating tactics-remember Khrushchev and his shoe? His name calling is, well, uncalled for, and may cost him ultimately. His energy and instant communication will be missed, even by enemies. One last thing-you should have a contest.If Trump does get the wall built, what should it be named?

It should be named. Ha-ha told you Mexico wouldn't pay for it.

Fake-Mexicans can't write!

 

[Correll]

It's so much entertainment just watching you all be driven absolutely crazy by him. I don't even watch the rallies--why should I? You all are entertainment enough.

The only people driven crazy by Trump are people like you. That you believe in him makes you very laughable. Voting for someone just to piss off the other side makes as much sense as shooting yourself in the foot, and the results are very similar.

It was his policies that drew his support though the primaries.

POLICIES.

Believing politicians is always a gamble. They never succeed at all they promise. The best you can hope for is a good faith effort on the issues that are most important to you.

Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

Only an partisan hack could fault us for voting for Trump.

Trump didn't have "policies" in the primaries. He had bumper sticker slogans. People didn't vote for his "policies", they voted for him because he was funny, and entertaining, and he wasn't a lying politician.
...n.

Trade and immigration are policies.

That you disagreed with them, and dismissed them, does not mean that his supporters did.

Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

It is mean and unfair of you to fault us for choosing to support the politician that was promising to try, as opposed to the one that was promising to NOT try.

Trump offered no policies at all on either trade or immigration, just grievances. He didn’t say what he would do as President other than to “fix” things.
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Yes he did. On many levels. It is fine that you disagreed with him on policy.


Do not pretend that he did not offer serious policy planks, ones that drove the whole debate.


Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

It is mean and unfair of you to fault us for choosing to support the politician that was promising to try, as opposed to the one that was promising to NOT try.

 

[Third Party]

The only people driven crazy by Trump are people like you. That you believe in him makes you very laughable. Voting for someone just to piss off the other side makes as much sense as shooting yourself in the foot, and the results are very similar.

It was his policies that drew his support though the primaries.

POLICIES.

Believing politicians is always a gamble. They never succeed at all they promise. The best you can hope for is a good faith effort on the issues that are most important to you.

Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

Only an partisan hack could fault us for voting for Trump.

Trump didn't have "policies" in the primaries. He had bumper sticker slogans. People didn't vote for his "policies", they voted for him because he was funny, and entertaining, and he wasn't a lying politician.
...n.

Trade and immigration are policies.

That you disagreed with them, and dismissed them, does not mean that his supporters did.

Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

It is mean and unfair of you to fault us for choosing to support the politician that was promising to try, as opposed to the one that was promising to NOT try.

Trump offered no policies at all on either trade or immigration, just grievances. He didn’t say what he would do as President other than to “fix” things.
.....

Yes he did. On many levels. It is fine that you disagreed with him on policy.


Do not pretend that he did not offer serious policy planks, ones that drove the whole debate.


Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

It is mean and unfair of you to fault us for choosing to support the politician that was promising to try, as opposed to the one that was promising to NOT try.

Overall, I rate Trump highly-his policies please me. His behavior, well you can't have everything.

 

[Correll]

It was his policies that drew his support though the primaries.

POLICIES.

Believing politicians is always a gamble. They never succeed at all they promise. The best you can hope for is a good faith effort on the issues that are most important to you.

Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

Only an partisan hack could fault us for voting for Trump.

Trump didn't have "policies" in the primaries. He had bumper sticker slogans. People didn't vote for his "policies", they voted for him because he was funny, and entertaining, and he wasn't a lying politician.
...n.

Trade and immigration are policies.

That you disagreed with them, and dismissed them, does not mean that his supporters did.

Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

It is mean and unfair of you to fault us for choosing to support the politician that was promising to try, as opposed to the one that was promising to NOT try.

Trump offered no policies at all on either trade or immigration, just grievances. He didn’t say what he would do as President other than to “fix” things.
.....

Yes he did. On many levels. It is fine that you disagreed with him on policy.


Do not pretend that he did not offer serious policy planks, ones that drove the whole debate.


Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

It is mean and unfair of you to fault us for choosing to support the politician that was promising to try, as opposed to the one that was promising to NOT try.

Overall, I rate Trump highly-his policies please me. His behavior, well you can't have everything.

He has an odd and off putting manner. It is completely reasonable to not like it.

 

[Kondor3]

Does Trump represent permanent change?

Hardly.

Once he's gone, they'll change the furniture and fumigate the Oval Office, reverse 90% of what little he's done, and move on.

A nightmarish chapter in the history of our beloved Republic, gratefully and happily forgotten...

Except in the flurry of legislation designed to ensure that a Robber Baron can never again exploit his high office for personal gain.

 

[Correll]

Does Trump represent permanent change?

Hardly.

Once he's gone, they'll change the furniture and fumigate the Oval Office, reverse 90% of what little he's done, and move on.

A nightmarish chapter in the history of our beloved Republic, gratefully and happily forgotten...

Except in the flurry of legislation designed to ensure that a Robber Baron can never again exploit his high office for personal gain.

People will remember that his policies on trade and immigration worked, and did not cause the end of the world, like so many hysterics claimed they would.

 

[pismoe]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
.

It is the nature of political systems to fail. The usual method is collective government, to totalitarian government, to revolution, to republic, and then repeat. We were well on the way to a totalitarian State until trump came along. He has slowed the rot. It will never cease because mankind is greedy, and those in power always demand ever more power. But he has definitely slowed it down.

No other democracy has lasted over 200 yrs

~S~

----------------------------------------------- these lefties will get exactly what they deserve . Sadly though , good Americans will also be hurt Sparky

 

[Maxdeath]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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---------------------------------------------- permanent enough especially if he gets a second term and stays the course Mac .

Assuming he wins, is it your hope/expectation that enough of a majority of the country will see the results of his policies and decide that's the direction it wants to go?
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How many people do you expect to vote to lose their jobs? Warren is calling for the breakup of large tech and higher taxes on companies.
How many are going to vote to double their federal income tax rate? Most candidates are backing Medicare for all.
How many are going to vote to increase our dependence on foreign oil? Most have made it abundantly clear they don't want oil exploration and production.
How many are going to vote to increase the national debt by almost double. Most have embraced the concept of the New Green deal.
A recent estimate of Warrens proposed plans put the cost at 48 Trillion.

People look at things like employment, current and future pay. Both at record highs. A large amount look at things such as foreign wars. No new ones. While Trump may not be the epitome of a president he certainly has the last guy beat and he won two terms. The current crop of candidates have only higher taxes and lower jobs to offer.

That's all great campaign rhetoric, but half the country doesn't agree with your perceptions or interpretations.

That's why I ask.
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You mean direct from the candidates mouth, those perceptions?

 

[pismoe]

The only people driven crazy by Trump are people like you. That you believe in him makes you very laughable. Voting for someone just to piss off the other side makes as much sense as shooting yourself in the foot, and the results are very similar.

It was his policies that drew his support though the primaries.

POLICIES.

Believing politicians is always a gamble. They never succeed at all they promise. The best you can hope for is a good faith effort on the issues that are most important to you.

Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

Only an partisan hack could fault us for voting for Trump.

Trump didn't have "policies" in the primaries. He had bumper sticker slogans. People didn't vote for his "policies", they voted for him because he was funny, and entertaining, and he wasn't a lying politician.
...n.

Trade and immigration are policies.

That you disagreed with them, and dismissed them, does not mean that his supporters did.

Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

It is mean and unfair of you to fault us for choosing to support the politician that was promising to try, as opposed to the one that was promising to NOT try.

Trump offered no policies at all on either trade or immigration, just grievances. He didn’t say what he would do as President other than to “fix” things.
.....

Yes he did. On many levels. It is fine that you disagreed with him on policy.


Do not pretend that he did not offer serious policy planks, ones that drove the whole debate.


Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

It is mean and unfair of you to fault us for choosing to support the politician that was promising to try, as opposed to the one that was promising to NOT try.

-------------------------------------------------- Trump was the only option and the only option for 2020 Correl .

 

[sartre play]

Next, Health & human services, Trumps 2nd pick, 1st left for bad behavior. Alex Azar lawyer, former job Drug co Eli LILLY, and you wonder how the drug company's get away with every thing.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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Trump is very mainstream.
The only thing really different about him is that he is an political novice.
What Trump is doing that is radical is he is exposing how totally corrupt and dishonest the Democrats are.
The Democrats are going through a generational change.
Pelosi, Schumer, the Clintons, Kerry.....will be gone very soon.
This next generation of Dems are further left wing, more radical and more racist.
Trump has increased the GOP minority voter percentage a little, but the Dems are losing more middle class white voters every election.

 

[pismoe]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
.

Trump is very mainstream.
The only thing really different about him is that he is an political novice.
What Trump is doing that is radical is he is exposing how totally corrupt and dishonest the Democrats are.
The Democrats are going through a generational change.
Pelosi, Schumer, the Clintons, Kerry.....will be gone very soon.
This next generation of Dems are further left wing, more radical and more racist.
Trump has increased the GOP minority voter percentage a little, but the Dems are losing more middle class white voters every election.

---------------------------------------------------------- thankyou and I do belive that you are correct in describing the TRUMP as very Mainstream Trog,

 

[Crepitus]

Please vote and expand, thanks.

Even if i did support Trump, it would be his words, not his actions Mac

Not sure what you mean. You support his words, not his actions?
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Most of Trumps contingent get off on his speeches Mac

I viewed his Texas cheer leading rally as long as i could stand it

This is the heart of MAGA, to believe and buy into all the jingoistic rhetoric

Ergo, his supporters honestly believe they're 'great again' / 'winning' , simply because they're told so

Despite the inversely proportional devil in the 'action' details

~S~

I've pointed that out to more than a few tRumplings, they cannot see it.

 

[pismoe]

Please vote and expand, thanks.

Even if i did support Trump, it would be his words, not his actions Mac

Not sure what you mean. You support his words, not his actions?
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Most of Trumps contingent get off on his speeches Mac

I viewed his Texas cheer leading rally as long as i could stand it

This is the heart of MAGA, to believe and buy into all the jingoistic rhetoric

Ergo, his supporters honestly believe they're 'great again' / 'winning' , simply because they're told so

Despite the inversely proportional devil in the 'action' details

~S~

I've pointed that out to more than a few tRumplings, they cannot see it.

--------------------------------------------------- as the TRUMP keeps rolling along Crep .

 

[Defiant1]

go ahead with your seceding Playtime .

lol - what? i'm staying right here, thank you very much.

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When the fighting starts do you really think you are going to win?

I'm pretty sure our side would be willing to give your side a few states in the Northeast and the Northwest where you can set up your own government and live in peace.

 

[Crepitus]

Please vote and expand, thanks.

Even if i did support Trump, it would be his words, not his actions Mac

Not sure what you mean. You support his words, not his actions?
.

Most of Trumps contingent get off on his speeches Mac

I viewed his Texas cheer leading rally as long as i could stand it

This is the heart of MAGA, to believe and buy into all the jingoistic rhetoric

Ergo, his supporters honestly believe they're 'great again' / 'winning' , simply because they're told so

Despite the inversely proportional devil in the 'action' details

~S~

I've pointed that out to more than a few tRumplings, they cannot see it.

--------------------------------------------------- as the TRUMP keeps rolling along Crep .

You're one of them.

 

[Correll]

It was his policies that drew his support though the primaries.

POLICIES.

Believing politicians is always a gamble. They never succeed at all they promise. The best you can hope for is a good faith effort on the issues that are most important to you.

Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

Only an partisan hack could fault us for voting for Trump.

Trump didn't have "policies" in the primaries. He had bumper sticker slogans. People didn't vote for his "policies", they voted for him because he was funny, and entertaining, and he wasn't a lying politician.
...n.

Trade and immigration are policies.

That you disagreed with them, and dismissed them, does not mean that his supporters did.

Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

It is mean and unfair of you to fault us for choosing to support the politician that was promising to try, as opposed to the one that was promising to NOT try.

Trump offered no policies at all on either trade or immigration, just grievances. He didn’t say what he would do as President other than to “fix” things.
.....

Yes he did. On many levels. It is fine that you disagreed with him on policy.


Do not pretend that he did not offer serious policy planks, ones that drove the whole debate.


Trump promised to try. Hillary promised to not try.

It is mean and unfair of you to fault us for choosing to support the politician that was promising to try, as opposed to the one that was promising to NOT try.

-------------------------------------------------- Trump was the only option and the only option for 2020 Correl .

The way they act like, we were stupid for not embracing people that were openly hostile to us,


it is partisan assholeness of a level that is difficult to put into words.

 

[Mac1958]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
.

---------------------------------------------- permanent enough especially if he gets a second term and stays the course Mac .

Assuming he wins, is it your hope/expectation that enough of a majority of the country will see the results of his policies and decide that's the direction it wants to go?
.

How many people do you expect to vote to lose their jobs? Warren is calling for the breakup of large tech and higher taxes on companies.
How many are going to vote to double their federal income tax rate? Most candidates are backing Medicare for all.
How many are going to vote to increase our dependence on foreign oil? Most have made it abundantly clear they don't want oil exploration and production.
How many are going to vote to increase the national debt by almost double. Most have embraced the concept of the New Green deal.
A recent estimate of Warrens proposed plans put the cost at 48 Trillion.

People look at things like employment, current and future pay. Both at record highs. A large amount look at things such as foreign wars. No new ones. While Trump may not be the epitome of a president he certainly has the last guy beat and he won two terms. The current crop of candidates have only higher taxes and lower jobs to offer.

That's all great campaign rhetoric, but half the country doesn't agree with your perceptions or interpretations.

That's why I ask.
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You mean direct from the candidates mouth, those perceptions?

No, the perceptions people have of what would be best for the country, and of the outcomes of policies.
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[Mac1958]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
.

Trump is very mainstream.
The only thing really different about him is that he is an political novice.
What Trump is doing that is radical is he is exposing how totally corrupt and dishonest the Democrats are.
The Democrats are going through a generational change.
Pelosi, Schumer, the Clintons, Kerry.....will be gone very soon.
This next generation of Dems are further left wing, more radical and more racist.
Trump has increased the GOP minority voter percentage a little, but the Dems are losing more middle class white voters every election.

---------------------------------------------------------- thankyou and I do belive that you are correct in describing the TRUMP as very Mainstream Trog,

Mainstream talk radio, sure. Right down the line.

Goofy wingers on both ends always say they're "mainstream".
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