Polls forecast grim outcome for Trump-those polls are from 2016.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/

According to the polls It is looking grim Donald Trump. You know the guy that made disparaging locker room comments about women. Oh, wait a minute, those polls are from 2016 when he won. Never mind.
Ray, Trump was an unknown then....everyone now knows him and his actions.

He is no longer an outsider, he is the establishment....and no longer a surprise but a weight on his own shoulders imo...
 
No matter who wins, you are not the good guys. Having power is not the same as wanting power. You have caused misery for tens of millions of people at home and destabilized parts of the world. Lying your way out of it still does not change that fact.
But they are fighting the "good fight". They are doing what is "right" even if the people do not agree. They are "smoking gun" dedicated to what is right.
 
Ray, Trump was an unknown then....everyone now knows him and his actions.

He is no longer an outsider, he is the establishment....and no longer a surprise but a weight on his own shoulders imo...

With even his own former VP unwilling to support him. Along with former cabinet members after former cabinet members.

That's utterly unprecedented.
People that know Trump, have worked for him, been members of his administration lifelong Republicans all.........refusing to support him.

Time for more conspiracy batshit from the Magites.
 
Trump must indeed be a very powerful force to contend with. Apparently he went back in time and created polls that said he was going to lose in 2016.
 
Trump must indeed be a very powerful force to contend with. Apparently he went back in time and created polls that said he was going to lose in 2016.

Or.......Trump is known quantity in 2024. Just like he was a known quantity in 2020.

Keep your head in the sand. It won't matter.
 
Trump is indeed a know quantity, He does not believe in wars. Wars benefit war greed in the short run but they always come back to haunt the war mongers. The Bush's, Clinton, and Obama, gave us the Arab Spring and 911. There would be no war in Ukraine and Israel if Trump had been in charge.
 
The polls in 2016 were not wrong, they predicted Hillary would win the national vote, she did.
LOL!! The polls said that Hillary had a 99% probability of winning the ELECTION, that Trump had no path to 270 EC votes.

Here you go, watch this to the end, its a classic

 
LOL!! The polls said that Hillary had a 99% probability of winning the ELECTION, that Trump had no path to 270 EC votes.

Here you go, watch this to the end, its a classic



The polls never said that as polls cannot predict probability of winning.
 
The polls are attached to the media just like they were in 2016. Legacy media in the US decided to join the government not investigate or monitor it. So polls no longer relfect what people are thinking they demonstrate what the status quo wants them to think. It works to ceratain degree. You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. The economy is going to boss here. Because hungry people vote with their stomachs not with ideology or emotions.
 
But they are fighting the "good fight". They are doing what is "right" even if the people do not agree. They are "smoking gun" dedicated to what is right.
Progs are 100% under the dictums of the European led globalists. Republicans have a fair percentage that are the same. If you believe the European power structure which has some going ack centuries are good, then your beliefs are valid for you. Look at the wars, the imprisoning and internment of people, the endless deaths that total hundreds of millions, the enslavement of people and more.
 
The polls are attached to the media just like they were in 2016. Legacy media in the US decided to join the government not investigate or monitor it. So polls no longer relfect what people are thinking they demonstrate what the status quo wants them to think. It works to ceratain degree. You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. The economy is going to boss here. Because hungry people vote with their stomachs not with ideology or emotions.
I eat just fine
 
No, they predicted she would win.
No one expected Comey to make the announcement that they were reopening the investigation in to her, just two to three weeks before election day....

The same type of below the waste or left hook, can still be done 2 weeks before the 2024 election and all bets are off on polling imo.
 

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