President Trump BOLDLY walked up St. John's Church with a Bible in his hand.

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“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

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1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

1. Your assumptions about his motives are noted. I already addressed your side's impressive ability to come up with "Reasons" for your division.

2. He is not religious, but he is against burning churches. That you find that hard to believe, is just you being bat shit crazy.

3. Telling a race baiting asshole to shove their wacism up their ass, is not being triggered, it is a normal and healthy response, you fucking asshole.

4. Also, fuck you, you piece of shit.

i've watched donny in action for 40 years. i know exactly of which i speak. he was NEVER interested in church burnings until now.

if he has a history of speaking out when it's happened in the past - you would have a point. he never did, so the only point you are making is how you will adore him until the day he croaks.

oh ya.... you are SO triggered.

He wasn't President before. It was not his job to address them before. Who would care what some real estate guy from New York City has to say about some church arson?

I am not triggered. You called me a name, so I called you names back. Your confusion about how that works is just you being a stupid whore. FUCK OFF.

he spoke out about many issues. including 9/11 & invading iraq when he was just the manwhore of NYC.

you are always triggered, CB.

Your expectation that you should be able to call me names and still get civil discourse from me,


is you being a piece of shit.

YOU replied to me FIRST on this thread.

YOU called ME a name FIRST on this thread.

MY point stands.

YOU are triggered.

As fairly normal for a lib, you are such an asshole, you do it, without even realizing that you do it.

I don't care. I'm not giving you a pass, because you are so fucking stupid, that you don't even realize what a fucking asshole you are.

Stupidity is not an excuse for you being asshole.


That is not triggered, you fucking moron, that is me giving you the treatment that you have earned.

Your post absolutely displays you being triggered. You can’t restrain yourself from profanity and petty insults. That’s text book trigger. Sorry.

No, it is not. "Triggered" implies an emotional reaction to something relatively innocent.


Being insulted by an asshole and insulting the said asshole(s) back, appropriately, is not being triggered.

Attacking back in a barrage of profanity and insults is exactly what triggered is

There is nothing wrong in responding appropriately to an asshole(s).

Your definition makes no sense. IF that was true, why are you making an issue of it?

I just saw you claim that you weren’t triggered in a post where you were clearly triggered. I was just pointing out the irony

The point in saying someone is "triggered" is to delegitimize their anger, to imply that they are being irrational or over reacting.


If your definition of the word is correct, than all you were doing was accusing me of responding appropriately, insulting an ass, that had insulted me first.


That is a zinger, without much zing.


If that was what you meant, then you are correct in that I did insult an asshole, that deserved it.


Whoopie do. Thanks for the input.

You may call it appropriately reacting. I’d call it an immature over dramatic and emotional reaction... aka triggered

Your desire that I just let asshole libs insult me and just let it pass is denied.

Deal with it.

Play in the mud pit all you want, I don’t care... just don’t say you’re not muddy... it’s all over you

I know bullies. I know how they operate. Grade school was a long time ago, but I remember.


I remember teachers talking that shit about not fighting back. I remember the assholes who would say shit like, "it takes two tango".

It does not take two to tango. It takes one asshole to decide to violently attack someone and then violence is taking place.

 

[playtime]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

^
1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

1. Your assumptions about his motives are noted. I already addressed your side's impressive ability to come up with "Reasons" for your division.

2. He is not religious, but he is against burning churches. That you find that hard to believe, is just you being bat shit crazy.

3. Telling a race baiting asshole to shove their wacism up their ass, is not being triggered, it is a normal and healthy response, you fucking asshole.

4. Also, fuck you, you piece of shit.

i've watched donny in action for 40 years. i know exactly of which i speak. he was NEVER interested in church burnings until now.

if he has a history of speaking out when it's happened in the past - you would have a point. he never did, so the only point you are making is how you will adore him until the day he croaks.

oh ya.... you are SO triggered.

He wasn't President before. It was not his job to address them before. Who would care what some real estate guy from New York City has to say about some church arson?

I am not triggered. You called me a name, so I called you names back. Your confusion about how that works is just you being a stupid whore. FUCK OFF.

he spoke out about many issues. including 9/11 & invading iraq when he was just the manwhore of NYC.

you are always triggered, CB.

Your expectation that you should be able to call me names and still get civil discourse from me,


is you being a piece of shit.

YOU replied to me FIRST on this thread.

YOU called ME a name FIRST on this thread.

MY point stands.

YOU are triggered.

As fairly normal for a lib, you are such an asshole, you do it, without even realizing that you do it.

I don't care. I'm not giving you a pass, because you are so fucking stupid, that you don't even realize what a fucking asshole you are.

Stupidity is not an excuse for you being asshole.


That is not triggered, you fucking moron, that is me giving you the treatment that you have earned.

Your post absolutely displays you being triggered. You can’t restrain yourself from profanity and petty insults. That’s text book trigger. Sorry.

No, it is not. "Triggered" implies an emotional reaction to something relatively innocent.


Being insulted by an asshole and insulting the said asshole(s) back, appropriately, is not being triggered.

Attacking back in a barrage of profanity and insults is exactly what triggered is

There is nothing wrong in responding appropriately to an asshole(s).

Your definition makes no sense. IF that was true, why are you making an issue of it?

I just saw you claim that you weren’t triggered in a post where you were clearly triggered. I was just pointing out the irony

The point in saying someone is "triggered" is to delegitimize their anger, to imply that they are being irrational or over reacting.


If your definition of the word is correct, than all you were doing was accusing me of responding appropriately, insulting an ass, that had insulted me first.


That is a zinger, without much zing.


If that was what you meant, then you are correct in that I did insult an asshole, that deserved it.


Whoopie do. Thanks for the input.

You may call it appropriately reacting. I’d call it an immature over dramatic and emotional reaction... aka triggered

Your desire that I just let asshole libs insult me and just let it pass is denied.

Deal with it.

I don’t have a desire for anybody to personally insult you... you do deserve to be called out on much of what you say though, that’s what I’m hear doing.

Someone calls me out, and challenges what I say, and makes an argument against what I said, or challenges me to make an argument to defend it,


that's fine.



Some asshole just calls me a racist, then I'm going to tell them to shove their wacism up their ass and fuck off.


If you can't tell the difference between the two, you are part of hte problem.

wah wah wahhhhhh YOU came for ME first on this thread.

 

[Slade3200]

“Goal” isn’t the right word but I’d love to see us honestly communicate about differences instead of acting like children playing a rubber and glue game. We were and always will be divided politically. We live in a democracy, a melting pot of different ideas. But the way we address these issues used to be much more civilized.

I don't know if that was true. What I recall, before Trump is a lot of people like you, calling people like me names, and just getting away with it, winning arguments, winning elections, setting policy, ruining people's lives.

The reason Trump exploded, is not because he said anything all that clever. But because there was a large group of people, who had been wanting some one to speak out for us, for a long time.


That is not going to change if/when Trump is gone. We will still be here, and people like you, will still be calling us names and using that power, to destroy us, to set policy, to fuck us over in so many ways.

That’s not True at all. Prior to Obama the Right had the White House for 8 years. During Obama the right won
back both the house and senate. You’re not being honest/accurate

And Bush stayed out of the CUlture Wars. He let people like Playtime call him and/or his supporters names and he took the high road.

We were not united. We were just as divided then as we are now. It just seemed like less to you, because there was no push back to your sides assaults.

There are always going to be people attacking and insulting, but presidents should take the high road. Presidents should pursue discourse at a higher level and block out the noise. Trump engages with it and makes that kind of garbage the national debate. It takes use nowhere except to a deeper division. No we are not just as divided as we were before trump. This is a whole new level and the stagnation and anger that it has and will cause is astounding

Before Trump, republicans would try to engage in debates, and people like playtime would smear them as racist.


If everyone "takes the highroad" these constant repeated smears create the illusion of credibility, since they are not challenged, thought the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion, used as propaganda.


For one limited example, how what you suggest, does not work.


Policies were set, based on "debates" like that. People would pay the price, because their interests were not represented, because those that were trying were shouted down by race baiters shouting "Racist".

It might have seemed better to you, but only because you agree(d) with the policies that were shoved though in that way.

There are always going to be wingnuts yelling Racist, sexist, communist, yada yada yada. That’s a childish way to conduct yourself. Not something to aspire to. I’d speak out against somebody calling somebody racist over a policy position that isn’t racist. Just as I speak out over the childish insult tactics that Trump plays. One doesn’t excuse the other.

But if that’s the stuff you want to aspire to because you think it’s effective then go right ahead. Seems to me that people like playtime are in your head. You’re giving them too much power.

Your pretense that it is just a few "wingnuts" is not credible.


It is constant theme of civil discourse and constantly injected into the Conventional Wisdom from propaganda outlets in Media, pop culture, education, ect. ect.

And it is tearing this nation apart. Ignoring it, would be like ignoring gangrene in your foot.

I see it as wingnuts and media/political hyperbole. But you obviously have a higher sensitivity and focus on it. That’s fine. But how does partaking in that which you just said is tearing our country apart help things?

You can’t make the case that the rhetoric is tearing us apart and then in the next breath justify doing the same thing because “they did it first”... makes no sense

You don't see any difference between falsely calling someone a racist, and truly calling someone an asshole?


If someone calls me a "racist", he pissed me off and convinces any minority that believes him, that I, and people like me, are to be feared and hated (see people dying in the streets).


If I call the person calling me that, an asshole, I am calling that person an asshole, and telling anyone listening, that believes me, that that person is an asshole and should not be trusted. Not that this is not setting large groups of people against each other. (see no one dying in the streets from this)

If somebody called me a racist I’d probably call them an asshole. That would be me being triggered and emotional and engaging in a lower level of discourse than I’d expect our elected officials and public leaders to act. Nobody’s perfect. I wouldn’t make excuses for calling the guy an asshole or deny that I was triggered. I’d just say he pissed me off but I shouldn’t have acted that way. Especially if kids were witness. That’s my tester of right and wrong. What would I teach kids to do. We should all hold ourselves to those standards

 

[lennypartiv]

McEnany said Monday that the White House has no regrets about how federal law enforcement forcibly cleared protesters from Lafayette Square

Team Trump never regrets anything

There's nothing to regret.

 

[rightwinger]

Team Trump never regrets anything

What is to regret? Many in the crowd were violent.

...​

​

At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.​

​

To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area. ​

​

As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. USPP officers and other assisting law enforcement partners did not use tear gas or OC Skat Shells to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.​

June 2 Statement from United States Park Police acting Chief Gregory T. Monahan about the actions taken over the weekend to protect life and property - United States Park Police (U.S. National Park Service)

www.nps.gov

Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op

After U.S. Park Police and National Guard troops pushed demonstrators out of Lafayette Park, President Trump walked from the White House to St. John's Church where he posed for pictures with a Bible.

www.npr.org

A former St. John's minister, Gini Gerbasi, was among those attending to the protesters in front of the church when the police moved in.

"We were literally DRIVEN OFF of the St. John's, Lafayette Square patio with tear gas and concussion grenades and police in full riot gear," she wrote in a Facebook post. "PEOPLE WERE HURT SO THAT [President Trump] COULD HAVE A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH!!! HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO STEP OVER THE MEDICAL SUPPLIES WE LEFT BEHIND BECAUSE WE WERE BEING TEAR GASSED!!!!"

 

[playtime]

“Goal” isn’t the right word but I’d love to see us honestly communicate about differences instead of acting like children playing a rubber and glue game. We were and always will be divided politically. We live in a democracy, a melting pot of different ideas. But the way we address these issues used to be much more civilized.

I don't know if that was true. What I recall, before Trump is a lot of people like you, calling people like me names, and just getting away with it, winning arguments, winning elections, setting policy, ruining people's lives.

The reason Trump exploded, is not because he said anything all that clever. But because there was a large group of people, who had been wanting some one to speak out for us, for a long time.


That is not going to change if/when Trump is gone. We will still be here, and people like you, will still be calling us names and using that power, to destroy us, to set policy, to fuck us over in so many ways.

That’s not True at all. Prior to Obama the Right had the White House for 8 years. During Obama the right won
back both the house and senate. You’re not being honest/accurate

And Bush stayed out of the CUlture Wars. He let people like Playtime call him and/or his supporters names and he took the high road.

We were not united. We were just as divided then as we are now. It just seemed like less to you, because there was no push back to your sides assaults.

donny is a sociopath. donny is a malignant narcissist. donny has arrested development. donny is a manwhore pig. donny is a carnival barker & a snake oil salesman. donny has duped those who think he was ever for 'them'.

2 things he was truthful about though....

this:

“The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.”

&

"I Could Stand In the Middle Of Fifth Avenue And Shoot Somebody And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters"

^ that.

 

[playtime]

“Goal” isn’t the right word but I’d love to see us honestly communicate about differences instead of acting like children playing a rubber and glue game. We were and always will be divided politically. We live in a democracy, a melting pot of different ideas. But the way we address these issues used to be much more civilized.

I don't know if that was true. What I recall, before Trump is a lot of people like you, calling people like me names, and just getting away with it, winning arguments, winning elections, setting policy, ruining people's lives.

The reason Trump exploded, is not because he said anything all that clever. But because there was a large group of people, who had been wanting some one to speak out for us, for a long time.


That is not going to change if/when Trump is gone. We will still be here, and people like you, will still be calling us names and using that power, to destroy us, to set policy, to fuck us over in so many ways.

That’s not True at all. Prior to Obama the Right had the White House for 8 years. During Obama the right won
back both the house and senate. You’re not being honest/accurate

And Bush stayed out of the CUlture Wars. He let people like Playtime call him and/or his supporters names and he took the high road.

We were not united. We were just as divided then as we are now. It just seemed like less to you, because there was no push back to your sides assaults.

There are always going to be people attacking and insulting, but presidents should take the high road. Presidents should pursue discourse at a higher level and block out the noise. Trump engages with it and makes that kind of garbage the national debate. It takes use nowhere except to a deeper division. No we are not just as divided as we were before trump. This is a whole new level and the stagnation and anger that it has and will cause is astounding

Before Trump, republicans would try to engage in debates, and people like playtime would smear them as racist.


If everyone "takes the highroad" these constant repeated smears create the illusion of credibility, since they are not challenged, thought the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion, used as propaganda.


For one limited example, how what you suggest, does not work.


Policies were set, based on "debates" like that. People would pay the price, because their interests were not represented, because those that were trying were shouted down by race baiters shouting "Racist".

It might have seemed better to you, but only because you agree(d) with the policies that were shoved though in that way.

There are always going to be wingnuts yelling Racist, sexist, communist, yada yada yada. That’s a childish way to conduct yourself. Not something to aspire to. I’d speak out against somebody calling somebody racist over a policy position that isn’t racist. Just as I speak out over the childish insult tactics that Trump plays. One doesn’t excuse the other.

But if that’s the stuff you want to aspire to because you think it’s effective then go right ahead. Seems to me that people like playtime are in your head. You’re giving them too much power.

Your pretense that it is just a few "wingnuts" is not credible.


It is constant theme of civil discourse and constantly injected into the Conventional Wisdom from propaganda outlets in Media, pop culture, education, ect. ect.

And it is tearing this nation apart. Ignoring it, would be like ignoring gangrene in your foot.

I see it as wingnuts and media/political hyperbole. But you obviously have a higher sensitivity and focus on it. That’s fine. But how does partaking in that which you just said is tearing our country apart help things?

You can’t make the case that the rhetoric is tearing us apart and then in the next breath justify doing the same thing because “they did it first”... makes no sense

You don't see any difference between falsely calling someone a racist, and truly calling someone an asshole?


If someone calls me a "racist", he pissed me off and convinces any minority that believes him, that I, and people like me, are to be feared and hated (see people dying in the streets).


If I call the person calling me that, an asshole, I am calling that person an asshole, and telling anyone listening, that believes me, that that person is an asshole and should not be trusted. Not that this is not setting large groups of people against each other. (see no one dying in the streets from this)

If somebody called me a racist I’d probably call them an asshole. That would be me being triggered and emotional and engaging in a lower level of discourse than I’d expect our elected officials and public leaders to act. Nobody’s perfect. I wouldn’t make excuses for calling the guy an asshole or deny that I was triggered. I’d just say he pissed me off but I shouldn’t have acted that way. Especially if kids were witness. That’s my tester of right and wrong. What would I teach kids to do. We should all hold ourselves to those standards

the funniest thing is, all i said was donny was incapable of empathy, not even to him- & he jumped in outa nowhere & called me a troll. now he's bitching & whining. AND i never called him a racist. i don't think ever - - - certainly not on this thread. i've called donny one based on his history - starting with the FACT that him & daddy drumpf got sued for housing discrimination back in the 70s... which of course correll has made excuses for his chosen one.... but i digress.

 

[playtime]

“Goal” isn’t the right word but I’d love to see us honestly communicate about differences instead of acting like children playing a rubber and glue game. We were and always will be divided politically. We live in a democracy, a melting pot of different ideas. But the way we address these issues used to be much more civilized.

I don't know if that was true. What I recall, before Trump is a lot of people like you, calling people like me names, and just getting away with it, winning arguments, winning elections, setting policy, ruining people's lives.

The reason Trump exploded, is not because he said anything all that clever. But because there was a large group of people, who had been wanting some one to speak out for us, for a long time.


That is not going to change if/when Trump is gone. We will still be here, and people like you, will still be calling us names and using that power, to destroy us, to set policy, to fuck us over in so many ways.

That’s not True at all. Prior to Obama the Right had the White House for 8 years. During Obama the right won
back both the house and senate. You’re not being honest/accurate

And Bush stayed out of the CUlture Wars. He let people like Playtime call him and/or his supporters names and he took the high road.

We were not united. We were just as divided then as we are now. It just seemed like less to you, because there was no push back to your sides assaults.

There are always going to be people attacking and insulting, but presidents should take the high road. Presidents should pursue discourse at a higher level and block out the noise. Trump engages with it and makes that kind of garbage the national debate. It takes use nowhere except to a deeper division. No we are not just as divided as we were before trump. This is a whole new level and the stagnation and anger that it has and will cause is astounding

Before Trump, republicans would try to engage in debates, and people like playtime would smear them as racist.


If everyone "takes the highroad" these constant repeated smears create the illusion of credibility, since they are not challenged, thought the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion, used as propaganda.


For one limited example, how what you suggest, does not work.


Policies were set, based on "debates" like that. People would pay the price, because their interests were not represented, because those that were trying were shouted down by race baiters shouting "Racist".

It might have seemed better to you, but only because you agree(d) with the policies that were shoved though in that way.

ooooOOOoooo ... i'm the catch all for all yer pent up rage today, 'eh?


good.

 

[playtime]

“Goal” isn’t the right word but I’d love to see us honestly communicate about differences instead of acting like children playing a rubber and glue game. We were and always will be divided politically. We live in a democracy, a melting pot of different ideas. But the way we address these issues used to be much more civilized.

I don't know if that was true. What I recall, before Trump is a lot of people like you, calling people like me names, and just getting away with it, winning arguments, winning elections, setting policy, ruining people's lives.

The reason Trump exploded, is not because he said anything all that clever. But because there was a large group of people, who had been wanting some one to speak out for us, for a long time.


That is not going to change if/when Trump is gone. We will still be here, and people like you, will still be calling us names and using that power, to destroy us, to set policy, to fuck us over in so many ways.

That’s not True at all. Prior to Obama the Right had the White House for 8 years. During Obama the right won
back both the house and senate. You’re not being honest/accurate

And Bush stayed out of the CUlture Wars. He let people like Playtime call him and/or his supporters names and he took the high road.

We were not united. We were just as divided then as we are now. It just seemed like less to you, because there was no push back to your sides assaults.

There are always going to be people attacking and insulting, but presidents should take the high road. Presidents should pursue discourse at a higher level and block out the noise. Trump engages with it and makes that kind of garbage the national debate. It takes use nowhere except to a deeper division. No we are not just as divided as we were before trump. This is a whole new level and the stagnation and anger that it has and will cause is astounding

Before Trump, republicans would try to engage in debates, and people like playtime would smear them as racist.


If everyone "takes the highroad" these constant repeated smears create the illusion of credibility, since they are not challenged, thought the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion, used as propaganda.


For one limited example, how what you suggest, does not work.


Policies were set, based on "debates" like that. People would pay the price, because their interests were not represented, because those that were trying were shouted down by race baiters shouting "Racist".

It might have seemed better to you, but only because you agree(d) with the policies that were shoved though in that way.

There are always going to be wingnuts yelling Racist, sexist, communist, yada yada yada. That’s a childish way to conduct yourself. Not something to aspire to. I’d speak out against somebody calling somebody racist over a policy position that isn’t racist. Just as I speak out over the childish insult tactics that Trump plays. One doesn’t excuse the other.

But if that’s the stuff you want to aspire to because you think it’s effective then go right ahead. Seems to me that people like playtime are in your head. You’re giving them too much power.

Your pretense that it is just a few "wingnuts" is not credible.


It is constant theme of civil discourse and constantly injected into the Conventional Wisdom from propaganda outlets in Media, pop culture, education, ect. ect.

And it is tearing this nation apart. Ignoring it, would be like ignoring gangrene in your foot.

I see it as wingnuts and media/political hyperbole. But you obviously have a higher sensitivity and focus on it. That’s fine. But how does partaking in that which you just said is tearing our country apart help things?

You can’t make the case that the rhetoric is tearing us apart and then in the next breath justify doing the same thing because “they did it first”... makes no sense

You don't see any difference between falsely calling someone a racist, and truly calling someone an asshole?


If someone calls me a "racist", he pissed me off and convinces any minority that believes him, that I, and people like me, are to be feared and hated (see people dying in the streets).


If I call the person calling me that, an asshole, I am calling that person an asshole, and telling anyone listening, that believes me, that that person is an asshole and should not be trusted. Not that this is not setting large groups of people against each other. (see no one dying in the streets from this)

you came for me. outa nowhere....

don't forget that CB. & where on this thread did i call you a racist?

oh that's right.... it didn't happen.

 

[Correll]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
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TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

^
1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

1. Your assumptions about his motives are noted. I already addressed your side's impressive ability to come up with "Reasons" for your division.

2. He is not religious, but he is against burning churches. That you find that hard to believe, is just you being bat shit crazy.

3. Telling a race baiting asshole to shove their wacism up their ass, is not being triggered, it is a normal and healthy response, you fucking asshole.

4. Also, fuck you, you piece of shit.

i've watched donny in action for 40 years. i know exactly of which i speak. he was NEVER interested in church burnings until now.

if he has a history of speaking out when it's happened in the past - you would have a point. he never did, so the only point you are making is how you will adore him until the day he croaks.

oh ya.... you are SO triggered.

He wasn't President before. It was not his job to address them before. Who would care what some real estate guy from New York City has to say about some church arson?

I am not triggered. You called me a name, so I called you names back. Your confusion about how that works is just you being a stupid whore. FUCK OFF.

he spoke out about many issues. including 9/11 & invading iraq when he was just the manwhore of NYC.

you are always triggered, CB.

Your expectation that you should be able to call me names and still get civil discourse from me,


is you being a piece of shit.

YOU replied to me FIRST on this thread.

YOU called ME a name FIRST on this thread.

MY point stands.

YOU are triggered.

As fairly normal for a lib, you are such an asshole, you do it, without even realizing that you do it.

I don't care. I'm not giving you a pass, because you are so fucking stupid, that you don't even realize what a fucking asshole you are.

Stupidity is not an excuse for you being asshole.


That is not triggered, you fucking moron, that is me giving you the treatment that you have earned.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Calling an asshole, an asshole, is not triggered, you fucking asshole.

 

[Correll]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

^
1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

1. Your assumptions about his motives are noted. I already addressed your side's impressive ability to come up with "Reasons" for your division.

2. He is not religious, but he is against burning churches. That you find that hard to believe, is just you being bat shit crazy.

3. Telling a race baiting asshole to shove their wacism up their ass, is not being triggered, it is a normal and healthy response, you fucking asshole.

4. Also, fuck you, you piece of shit.

i've watched donny in action for 40 years. i know exactly of which i speak. he was NEVER interested in church burnings until now.

if he has a history of speaking out when it's happened in the past - you would have a point. he never did, so the only point you are making is how you will adore him until the day he croaks.

oh ya.... you are SO triggered.

He wasn't President before. It was not his job to address them before. Who would care what some real estate guy from New York City has to say about some church arson?

I am not triggered. You called me a name, so I called you names back. Your confusion about how that works is just you being a stupid whore. FUCK OFF.

he spoke out about many issues. including 9/11 & invading iraq when he was just the manwhore of NYC.

you are always triggered, CB.

Your expectation that you should be able to call me names and still get civil discourse from me,


is you being a piece of shit.

YOU replied to me FIRST on this thread.

YOU called ME a name FIRST on this thread.

MY point stands.

YOU are triggered.

As fairly normal for a lib, you are such an asshole, you do it, without even realizing that you do it.

I don't care. I'm not giving you a pass, because you are so fucking stupid, that you don't even realize what a fucking asshole you are.

Stupidity is not an excuse for you being asshole.


That is not triggered, you fucking moron, that is me giving you the treatment that you have earned.

Your post absolutely displays you being triggered. You can’t restrain yourself from profanity and petty insults. That’s text book trigger. Sorry.

No, it is not. "Triggered" implies an emotional reaction to something relatively innocent.


Being insulted by an asshole and insulting the said asshole(s) back, appropriately, is not being triggered.

Attacking back in a barrage of profanity and insults is exactly what triggered is

There is nothing wrong in responding appropriately to an asshole(s).

Your definition makes no sense. IF that was true, why are you making an issue of it?

I just saw you claim that you weren’t triggered in a post where you were clearly triggered. I was just pointing out the irony

The point in saying someone is "triggered" is to delegitimize their anger, to imply that they are being irrational or over reacting.


If your definition of the word is correct, than all you were doing was accusing me of responding appropriately, insulting an ass, that had insulted me first.


That is a zinger, without much zing.


If that was what you meant, then you are correct in that I did insult an asshole, that deserved it.


Whoopie do. Thanks for the input.

You may call it appropriately reacting. I’d call it an immature over dramatic and emotional reaction... aka triggered

Your desire that I just let asshole libs insult me and just let it pass is denied.

Deal with it.

Play in the mud pit all you want, I don’t care... just don’t say you’re not muddy... it’s all over you

I know bullies. I know how they operate. Grade school was a long time ago, but I remember.


I remember teachers talking that shit about not fighting back. I remember the assholes who would say shit like, "it takes two tango".

It does not take two to tango. It takes one asshole to decide to violently attack someone and then violence is taking place.

You are the one behaving badly here, troll.

 

[Correll]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

^
1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

1. Your assumptions about his motives are noted. I already addressed your side's impressive ability to come up with "Reasons" for your division.

2. He is not religious, but he is against burning churches. That you find that hard to believe, is just you being bat shit crazy.

3. Telling a race baiting asshole to shove their wacism up their ass, is not being triggered, it is a normal and healthy response, you fucking asshole.

4. Also, fuck you, you piece of shit.

i've watched donny in action for 40 years. i know exactly of which i speak. he was NEVER interested in church burnings until now.

if he has a history of speaking out when it's happened in the past - you would have a point. he never did, so the only point you are making is how you will adore him until the day he croaks.

oh ya.... you are SO triggered.

He wasn't President before. It was not his job to address them before. Who would care what some real estate guy from New York City has to say about some church arson?

I am not triggered. You called me a name, so I called you names back. Your confusion about how that works is just you being a stupid whore. FUCK OFF.

he spoke out about many issues. including 9/11 & invading iraq when he was just the manwhore of NYC.

you are always triggered, CB.

Your expectation that you should be able to call me names and still get civil discourse from me,


is you being a piece of shit.

YOU replied to me FIRST on this thread.

YOU called ME a name FIRST on this thread.

MY point stands.

YOU are triggered.

As fairly normal for a lib, you are such an asshole, you do it, without even realizing that you do it.

I don't care. I'm not giving you a pass, because you are so fucking stupid, that you don't even realize what a fucking asshole you are.

Stupidity is not an excuse for you being asshole.


That is not triggered, you fucking moron, that is me giving you the treatment that you have earned.

Your post absolutely displays you being triggered. You can’t restrain yourself from profanity and petty insults. That’s text book trigger. Sorry.

No, it is not. "Triggered" implies an emotional reaction to something relatively innocent.


Being insulted by an asshole and insulting the said asshole(s) back, appropriately, is not being triggered.

Attacking back in a barrage of profanity and insults is exactly what triggered is

There is nothing wrong in responding appropriately to an asshole(s).

Your definition makes no sense. IF that was true, why are you making an issue of it?

I just saw you claim that you weren’t triggered in a post where you were clearly triggered. I was just pointing out the irony

The point in saying someone is "triggered" is to delegitimize their anger, to imply that they are being irrational or over reacting.


If your definition of the word is correct, than all you were doing was accusing me of responding appropriately, insulting an ass, that had insulted me first.


That is a zinger, without much zing.


If that was what you meant, then you are correct in that I did insult an asshole, that deserved it.


Whoopie do. Thanks for the input.

You may call it appropriately reacting. I’d call it an immature over dramatic and emotional reaction... aka triggered

Your desire that I just let asshole libs insult me and just let it pass is denied.

Deal with it.

I don’t have a desire for anybody to personally insult you... you do deserve to be called out on much of what you say though, that’s what I’m hear doing.

Someone calls me out, and challenges what I say, and makes an argument against what I said, or challenges me to make an argument to defend it,


that's fine.



Some asshole just calls me a racist, then I'm going to tell them to shove their wacism up their ass and fuck off.


If you can't tell the difference between the two, you are part of hte problem.

wah wah wahhhhhh YOU came for ME first on this thread.

Your lies are just you being a liberal.

 

[playtime]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

^
1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

1. Your assumptions about his motives are noted. I already addressed your side's impressive ability to come up with "Reasons" for your division.

2. He is not religious, but he is against burning churches. That you find that hard to believe, is just you being bat shit crazy.

3. Telling a race baiting asshole to shove their wacism up their ass, is not being triggered, it is a normal and healthy response, you fucking asshole.

4. Also, fuck you, you piece of shit.

i've watched donny in action for 40 years. i know exactly of which i speak. he was NEVER interested in church burnings until now.

if he has a history of speaking out when it's happened in the past - you would have a point. he never did, so the only point you are making is how you will adore him until the day he croaks.

oh ya.... you are SO triggered.

He wasn't President before. It was not his job to address them before. Who would care what some real estate guy from New York City has to say about some church arson?

I am not triggered. You called me a name, so I called you names back. Your confusion about how that works is just you being a stupid whore. FUCK OFF.

he spoke out about many issues. including 9/11 & invading iraq when he was just the manwhore of NYC.

you are always triggered, CB.

Your expectation that you should be able to call me names and still get civil discourse from me,


is you being a piece of shit.

YOU replied to me FIRST on this thread.

YOU called ME a name FIRST on this thread.

MY point stands.

YOU are triggered.

As fairly normal for a lib, you are such an asshole, you do it, without even realizing that you do it.

I don't care. I'm not giving you a pass, because you are so fucking stupid, that you don't even realize what a fucking asshole you are.

Stupidity is not an excuse for you being asshole.


That is not triggered, you fucking moron, that is me giving you the treatment that you have earned.

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Calling an asshole, an asshole, is not triggered, you fucking asshole.

t-r-i-g-g-e-r-e-d.

 

[Correll]

“Goal” isn’t the right word but I’d love to see us honestly communicate about differences instead of acting like children playing a rubber and glue game. We were and always will be divided politically. We live in a democracy, a melting pot of different ideas. But the way we address these issues used to be much more civilized.

I don't know if that was true. What I recall, before Trump is a lot of people like you, calling people like me names, and just getting away with it, winning arguments, winning elections, setting policy, ruining people's lives.

The reason Trump exploded, is not because he said anything all that clever. But because there was a large group of people, who had been wanting some one to speak out for us, for a long time.


That is not going to change if/when Trump is gone. We will still be here, and people like you, will still be calling us names and using that power, to destroy us, to set policy, to fuck us over in so many ways.

That’s not True at all. Prior to Obama the Right had the White House for 8 years. During Obama the right won
back both the house and senate. You’re not being honest/accurate

And Bush stayed out of the CUlture Wars. He let people like Playtime call him and/or his supporters names and he took the high road.

We were not united. We were just as divided then as we are now. It just seemed like less to you, because there was no push back to your sides assaults.

There are always going to be people attacking and insulting, but presidents should take the high road. Presidents should pursue discourse at a higher level and block out the noise. Trump engages with it and makes that kind of garbage the national debate. It takes use nowhere except to a deeper division. No we are not just as divided as we were before trump. This is a whole new level and the stagnation and anger that it has and will cause is astounding

Before Trump, republicans would try to engage in debates, and people like playtime would smear them as racist.


If everyone "takes the highroad" these constant repeated smears create the illusion of credibility, since they are not challenged, thought the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion, used as propaganda.


For one limited example, how what you suggest, does not work.


Policies were set, based on "debates" like that. People would pay the price, because their interests were not represented, because those that were trying were shouted down by race baiters shouting "Racist".

It might have seemed better to you, but only because you agree(d) with the policies that were shoved though in that way.

There are always going to be wingnuts yelling Racist, sexist, communist, yada yada yada. That’s a childish way to conduct yourself. Not something to aspire to. I’d speak out against somebody calling somebody racist over a policy position that isn’t racist. Just as I speak out over the childish insult tactics that Trump plays. One doesn’t excuse the other.

But if that’s the stuff you want to aspire to because you think it’s effective then go right ahead. Seems to me that people like playtime are in your head. You’re giving them too much power.

Your pretense that it is just a few "wingnuts" is not credible.


It is constant theme of civil discourse and constantly injected into the Conventional Wisdom from propaganda outlets in Media, pop culture, education, ect. ect.

And it is tearing this nation apart. Ignoring it, would be like ignoring gangrene in your foot.

I see it as wingnuts and media/political hyperbole. But you obviously have a higher sensitivity and focus on it. That’s fine. But how does partaking in that which you just said is tearing our country apart help things?

You can’t make the case that the rhetoric is tearing us apart and then in the next breath justify doing the same thing because “they did it first”... makes no sense

You don't see any difference between falsely calling someone a racist, and truly calling someone an asshole?


If someone calls me a "racist", he pissed me off and convinces any minority that believes him, that I, and people like me, are to be feared and hated (see people dying in the streets).


If I call the person calling me that, an asshole, I am calling that person an asshole, and telling anyone listening, that believes me, that that person is an asshole and should not be trusted. Not that this is not setting large groups of people against each other. (see no one dying in the streets from this)

If somebody called me a racist I’d probably call them an asshole. That would be me being triggered and emotional and engaging in a lower level of discourse than I’d expect our elected officials and public leaders to act. Nobody’s perfect. I wouldn’t make excuses for calling the guy an asshole or deny that I was triggered. I’d just say he pissed me off but I shouldn’t have acted that way. Especially if kids were witness. That’s my tester of right and wrong. What would I teach kids to do. We should all hold ourselves to those standards

If some one calls you a racist, without just cause they are being an asshole.

My point about the race baiting lie setting people against each other, and the truth, NOT doing that,


you did not address.

Furthermore, in today's world, calling someone a racist, can really fuck up their life.


It is not the type of thing you can just "be bigger than".

 

[playtime]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

^
1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

1. Your assumptions about his motives are noted. I already addressed your side's impressive ability to come up with "Reasons" for your division.

2. He is not religious, but he is against burning churches. That you find that hard to believe, is just you being bat shit crazy.

3. Telling a race baiting asshole to shove their wacism up their ass, is not being triggered, it is a normal and healthy response, you fucking asshole.

4. Also, fuck you, you piece of shit.

i've watched donny in action for 40 years. i know exactly of which i speak. he was NEVER interested in church burnings until now.

if he has a history of speaking out when it's happened in the past - you would have a point. he never did, so the only point you are making is how you will adore him until the day he croaks.

oh ya.... you are SO triggered.

He wasn't President before. It was not his job to address them before. Who would care what some real estate guy from New York City has to say about some church arson?

I am not triggered. You called me a name, so I called you names back. Your confusion about how that works is just you being a stupid whore. FUCK OFF.

he spoke out about many issues. including 9/11 & invading iraq when he was just the manwhore of NYC.

you are always triggered, CB.

Your expectation that you should be able to call me names and still get civil discourse from me,


is you being a piece of shit.

YOU replied to me FIRST on this thread.

YOU called ME a name FIRST on this thread.

MY point stands.

YOU are triggered.

As fairly normal for a lib, you are such an asshole, you do it, without even realizing that you do it.

I don't care. I'm not giving you a pass, because you are so fucking stupid, that you don't even realize what a fucking asshole you are.

Stupidity is not an excuse for you being asshole.


That is not triggered, you fucking moron, that is me giving you the treatment that you have earned.

Your post absolutely displays you being triggered. You can’t restrain yourself from profanity and petty insults. That’s text book trigger. Sorry.

No, it is not. "Triggered" implies an emotional reaction to something relatively innocent.


Being insulted by an asshole and insulting the said asshole(s) back, appropriately, is not being triggered.

Attacking back in a barrage of profanity and insults is exactly what triggered is

There is nothing wrong in responding appropriately to an asshole(s).

Your definition makes no sense. IF that was true, why are you making an issue of it?

I just saw you claim that you weren’t triggered in a post where you were clearly triggered. I was just pointing out the irony

The point in saying someone is "triggered" is to delegitimize their anger, to imply that they are being irrational or over reacting.


If your definition of the word is correct, than all you were doing was accusing me of responding appropriately, insulting an ass, that had insulted me first.


That is a zinger, without much zing.


If that was what you meant, then you are correct in that I did insult an asshole, that deserved it.


Whoopie do. Thanks for the input.

You may call it appropriately reacting. I’d call it an immature over dramatic and emotional reaction... aka triggered

Your desire that I just let asshole libs insult me and just let it pass is denied.

Deal with it.

Play in the mud pit all you want, I don’t care... just don’t say you’re not muddy... it’s all over you

I know bullies. I know how they operate. Grade school was a long time ago, but I remember.


I remember teachers talking that shit about not fighting back. I remember the assholes who would say shit like, "it takes two tango".

It does not take two to tango. It takes one asshole to decide to violently attack someone and then violence is taking place.

You are the one behaving badly here, troll.

lol....

no puppet no puppet no YOU'RE the puppet.

 

[Correll]

“Goal” isn’t the right word but I’d love to see us honestly communicate about differences instead of acting like children playing a rubber and glue game. We were and always will be divided politically. We live in a democracy, a melting pot of different ideas. But the way we address these issues used to be much more civilized.

I don't know if that was true. What I recall, before Trump is a lot of people like you, calling people like me names, and just getting away with it, winning arguments, winning elections, setting policy, ruining people's lives.

The reason Trump exploded, is not because he said anything all that clever. But because there was a large group of people, who had been wanting some one to speak out for us, for a long time.


That is not going to change if/when Trump is gone. We will still be here, and people like you, will still be calling us names and using that power, to destroy us, to set policy, to fuck us over in so many ways.

That’s not True at all. Prior to Obama the Right had the White House for 8 years. During Obama the right won
back both the house and senate. You’re not being honest/accurate

And Bush stayed out of the CUlture Wars. He let people like Playtime call him and/or his supporters names and he took the high road.

We were not united. We were just as divided then as we are now. It just seemed like less to you, because there was no push back to your sides assaults.

donny is a.....

Donald Trump ran on Jobs, immigration and less war. Nothing that justifies your side's hysteria.


YOur panic mongering bullshit is dismissed.

 

[Correll]

“Goal” isn’t the right word but I’d love to see us honestly communicate about differences instead of acting like children playing a rubber and glue game. We were and always will be divided politically. We live in a democracy, a melting pot of different ideas. But the way we address these issues used to be much more civilized.

I don't know if that was true. What I recall, before Trump is a lot of people like you, calling people like me names, and just getting away with it, winning arguments, winning elections, setting policy, ruining people's lives.

The reason Trump exploded, is not because he said anything all that clever. But because there was a large group of people, who had been wanting some one to speak out for us, for a long time.


That is not going to change if/when Trump is gone. We will still be here, and people like you, will still be calling us names and using that power, to destroy us, to set policy, to fuck us over in so many ways.

That’s not True at all. Prior to Obama the Right had the White House for 8 years. During Obama the right won
back both the house and senate. You’re not being honest/accurate

And Bush stayed out of the CUlture Wars. He let people like Playtime call him and/or his supporters names and he took the high road.

We were not united. We were just as divided then as we are now. It just seemed like less to you, because there was no push back to your sides assaults.

There are always going to be people attacking and insulting, but presidents should take the high road. Presidents should pursue discourse at a higher level and block out the noise. Trump engages with it and makes that kind of garbage the national debate. It takes use nowhere except to a deeper division. No we are not just as divided as we were before trump. This is a whole new level and the stagnation and anger that it has and will cause is astounding

Before Trump, republicans would try to engage in debates, and people like playtime would smear them as racist.


If everyone "takes the highroad" these constant repeated smears create the illusion of credibility, since they are not challenged, thought the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion, used as propaganda.


For one limited example, how what you suggest, does not work.


Policies were set, based on "debates" like that. People would pay the price, because their interests were not represented, because those that were trying were shouted down by race baiters shouting "Racist".

It might have seemed better to you, but only because you agree(d) with the policies that were shoved though in that way.

There are always going to be wingnuts yelling Racist, sexist, communist, yada yada yada. That’s a childish way to conduct yourself. Not something to aspire to. I’d speak out against somebody calling somebody racist over a policy position that isn’t racist. Just as I speak out over the childish insult tactics that Trump plays. One doesn’t excuse the other.

But if that’s the stuff you want to aspire to because you think it’s effective then go right ahead. Seems to me that people like playtime are in your head. You’re giving them too much power.

Your pretense that it is just a few "wingnuts" is not credible.


It is constant theme of civil discourse and constantly injected into the Conventional Wisdom from propaganda outlets in Media, pop culture, education, ect. ect.

And it is tearing this nation apart. Ignoring it, would be like ignoring gangrene in your foot.

I see it as wingnuts and media/political hyperbole. But you obviously have a higher sensitivity and focus on it. That’s fine. But how does partaking in that which you just said is tearing our country apart help things?

You can’t make the case that the rhetoric is tearing us apart and then in the next breath justify doing the same thing because “they did it first”... makes no sense

You don't see any difference between falsely calling someone a racist, and truly calling someone an asshole?


If someone calls me a "racist", he pissed me off and convinces any minority that believes him, that I, and people like me, are to be feared and hated (see people dying in the streets).


If I call the person calling me that, an asshole, I am calling that person an asshole, and telling anyone listening, that believes me, that that person is an asshole and should not be trusted. Not that this is not setting large groups of people against each other. (see no one dying in the streets from this)

If somebody called me a racist I’d probably call them an asshole. That would be me being triggered and emotional and engaging in a lower level of discourse than I’d expect our elected officials and public leaders to act. Nobody’s perfect. I wouldn’t make excuses for calling the guy an asshole or deny that I was triggered. I’d just say he pissed me off but I shouldn’t have acted that way. Especially if kids were witness. That’s my tester of right and wrong. What would I teach kids to do. We should all hold ourselves to those standards

the funniest thing is, all i said was donny was incapable of empathy, not even to him- & he jumped in outa nowhere & called me a troll. now he's bitching & whining. AND i never called him a racist. i don't think ever - - - certainly not on this thread. i've called donny one based on his history - starting with the FACT that him & daddy drumpf got sued for housing discrimination back in the 70s... which of course correll has made excuses for his chosen one.... but i digress.

You lefties are such reflexive assholes, you don't even notice when you are being assholes.


I DON'T CARE. I DON'T GIVE YOU FUCKTARDS PASSES, BASED ON YOU BEING RETARDED.

 

[Correll]

“Goal” isn’t the right word but I’d love to see us honestly communicate about differences instead of acting like children playing a rubber and glue game. We were and always will be divided politically. We live in a democracy, a melting pot of different ideas. But the way we address these issues used to be much more civilized.

I don't know if that was true. What I recall, before Trump is a lot of people like you, calling people like me names, and just getting away with it, winning arguments, winning elections, setting policy, ruining people's lives.

The reason Trump exploded, is not because he said anything all that clever. But because there was a large group of people, who had been wanting some one to speak out for us, for a long time.


That is not going to change if/when Trump is gone. We will still be here, and people like you, will still be calling us names and using that power, to destroy us, to set policy, to fuck us over in so many ways.

That’s not True at all. Prior to Obama the Right had the White House for 8 years. During Obama the right won
back both the house and senate. You’re not being honest/accurate

And Bush stayed out of the CUlture Wars. He let people like Playtime call him and/or his supporters names and he took the high road.

We were not united. We were just as divided then as we are now. It just seemed like less to you, because there was no push back to your sides assaults.

There are always going to be people attacking and insulting, but presidents should take the high road. Presidents should pursue discourse at a higher level and block out the noise. Trump engages with it and makes that kind of garbage the national debate. It takes use nowhere except to a deeper division. No we are not just as divided as we were before trump. This is a whole new level and the stagnation and anger that it has and will cause is astounding

Before Trump, republicans would try to engage in debates, and people like playtime would smear them as racist.


If everyone "takes the highroad" these constant repeated smears create the illusion of credibility, since they are not challenged, thought the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion, used as propaganda.


For one limited example, how what you suggest, does not work.


Policies were set, based on "debates" like that. People would pay the price, because their interests were not represented, because those that were trying were shouted down by race baiters shouting "Racist".

It might have seemed better to you, but only because you agree(d) with the policies that were shoved though in that way.

ooooOOOoooo ... i'm the catch all for all yer pent up rage today, 'eh?


good.

Your inability to serious address my point is noted.


Yet you had to comment to gloat about supposedly upsetting me.

Your behavior is you being the asshole here today. Yet you pretend to be so upset over the President's behavior.


You are a troll.

 

[playtime]

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross Bible.”

And this observation appeared in John Thomas Flynn’s As We Go Marching, published in 1944:

But when fascism comes it will not be in the form of an anti-American movement or pro-Hitler bund, practicing disloyalty. Nor will it come in the form of a crusade against war. It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in American public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there.

So, using that logic, if I post pictures of Biden with a flag and/or going to church, you will disavow him as a possible fascist?


LOL!! Just kidding. I know you didn't mean anything by your words.

I know you're smart enough to understand what that quote said. Playing dumb isn't going to further an argument with me.

The quote was total nonsense, president Trump is the most pro freedom president we have had in ages.

Meanwhile Antifa is attacking people on our streets for political goals. You should take note who are the fascist, and who is on the side of Americans and freedom in the equation. Anyone with IQ over 65 has realized it a long time ago.

Fascists just want power. They've only got one "side" -- their own. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? I believe there is truth in the quote I put up. It says IT IS HOW IT WILL START. I offered it as a warning, not an accusation. There are dark forces at work in our country and it is our job as fair minded citizens who love our country to continue to stand for freedom and equality for ALL our people, to show decency and respect for all human beings.

My feelings toward Trump aren't as extreme and as hypercritical as a lot of the posters here; I try to see both sides and judge each incident on its own merits. But there IS, imo, an undercurrent here of militarism and an unwillingness to welcome a dialogue with his people who obviously have a BIG issue they want heard. What was Trump's reaction to the peaceful protests of Colin Kaepernick? Remember? FIRE THE BASTARD!
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Your stupidity knows no bounds does it.

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Do you just enjoy displaying your lack of intelligence and cluelessness?

Or do you believe whites and cops should be murdered for 9 unarmed blacks killed in 10 million arrests?

Go ahead, challenge me on those facts and I'll own you as I always do.

There are extremes on both ends and they are struggling for power, not peaceful co-existence. I worked with cops for a number of years. They are basically fair minded and they have tough jobs. I respect them.
You're fighting a person who exists only in your mind.

P.S. BLACK LIVES DO MATTER!!!!

Those are LEADERS saying those things about whites and police YOU MORON!

You are embracing a movement that is ON RECORD hating police and whites.

Do you want to defund the police? That's what the racists in this shit organization want! Its on their website if you were smart enough to check.

Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?

ALL LIVES MATTER not just racist blacks in BLM!

No shit all lives matter I’m so sick of hearing that ignorant and transparent retort. You obviously don’t care to take the time to try to understand what’s going on with the BLM movement so continue to live in ignorance and bitch about it, that’s your choice.

I've quoted their racist leaders and sighted their website.

Other than sheer stupidity and ignorance what have you proven other than your lack of basic knowledge about this racist hate group?

Racist?

Do you need a map? Calling whites sub human is racist genius.

You think they are targeting and feeling superior to a marginalized Minority group?
They definitely spew hate. Hate towards the injustice they are fighting against. That’s for sure. Some take it too far, I agree. It still seems like you’re missing the message

No. Racism towards whites and hate towards cops. Unlike your clueless ass I've actually quoted their leaders. I've shown their website where they want to defund cops. You've got NOTHING but empty promises to back up your fantasy claim.

Either you are the biggest liar I've seen in a while or you're just a flat out racist. Their ACTIONS not the words you spew are how they are judged.

So I’m either a liar or a racist huh? That’s an interesting analysis. Don’t know why I would waste my time explaining my case to somebody so narrow minded. How about you just go on assuming both and carry on dismissing everything I say

2 corinthians told the chosen one to hold it backwards & upside down for that stellar photo op....

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It still blows my mind that he thought that standing there with someone's Bible and a stern look on his face was going to accomplish something.

I wonder what the goal was. I wonder what his staff was thinking when they saw him doing that.

they thought it would trigger the Left and start a big fight and his supporters would love it. As the Left bitched about Trump being at church with a bible they could make that the debate and fight back by calling the Left unhinged and focusing on meaningless stuff as communities burn. These are the divisive little fires that Trump lites all the time. It’s how he diverts the heat of bad press to a different fight that he feels better about fighting. Usually from serious stuff to petty stuff in his wheel house.

This is a moment in which the country needs a leader with great, sincere empathy.

None to be found in this White House.

President Trump cares a lot about America, that much is clear.

I think he cares about himself and tries to wrap himself on the flag to pander to his supporters. If he truly cared about America he would at least try to represent ALL of America and not only the 30% that support him while demonizing the rest.

If you include eligible voters who didn't vote, only about 26% of eligible voters actually voted for him in 2016.

So he figures that's all he needs to pander to. He may be right, we'll see. But he doesn't give a shit about the rest.

Speaking out against burning churches is not pandering to 26% of the country.

Yes, that would be one issue among many.

Exceptions prove the rule.

Your anti-Trump hate and anger are making you see completely reasonable acts, is an insanely dark light.

You’re being dishonest thinking this issue was simply a church visit... it was everything that surrounded the visit

What exactly, is "surrounding" Trump's visit to the Church, that is sooooo terrible to justify your hysteria?

how about this cartoon boy:


Breaking|Jun 2, 2020,12:25pm EDT
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds
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TOPLINE

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a neighboring church, said armored police forcibly removed her and other priests from the patio of Saint John's Episcopal Church, shortly before President Trump was photographed in front of Saint John's holding a bible.

At approximately 6:40 pm, police suddenly began to expel peaceful demonstrators from the park, firing tear gas and flash grenades to disperse the crowd.

Gerbasi said that a short time later, police in riot gear started "pushing on to the patio of St. John's," and that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.

"I'm there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on," said Gerbas, as she and others were forced to flee the scene.
Before Trump's Photo-Op, Police Forcibly Removed Priest From Church Grounds

he didn't give a damn about the church.

You had a choice between unifying around an anti-burning church message



or attacking the President.



YOu choose to be divisive.


Nothing will ever please you. YOu are full of hate and anger.

it was a photo op.

i'm attacking yer chosen one for gassing american citizens, flashbanging american citizens, on american soil - who WERE PEACEFULLY protesting & exercising their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so.

he didn't go inside. he held that bible upside down, & backwards & admitted it wasn't even his.

he's not religious. he never was. never will be.

& he was playing to the evangelisticals because he knows he's starting to lose some of them. besides the fucking racist POS, he needs the bible thumpers to
vote for him.

1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, would you be supporting his message? LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.


3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue. It is something everyone can support. It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest. You are the one making an issue out of this.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

^
1. It was a photo op. One about NOT BURNING CHURCHES. You are attacking him for it.

a photo op for his campaign. by using the pomp & circumstance, but not using the reality behind the scenes that got him there....

typical of a snake oil salesman.

if he cared about places of worship - he wouldn't have bombed that mosque in iran that was directly against the geneva convention.


2. If he had not cleared a protest before hand, ...

you mean by gassing & flashbanging PEACEFUL PROTESTERS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THAT CHURCH BURNING.


would you be supporting his message?

that wasn't his message. his message was for the thumpers to still vote for him come november - cause he needs them bigley.

LOL!!! You are so full of hate, that you can't support a message of DON'T BURN CHURCHES. Indeed, you can't even just let it pass.

you are so full of adoration for yer chosen one, that you are giving donny a huuuuuuuuuuge pass as he took a shit all over the 1st amendment.

3. His lack of personal religion is irrelevant to this "issue". You don't have to be religious to be against BURNING CHURCHES.

sure it is. it was just a show & nothing more. a means to an end. he's a fucking hypocrite & doesn't care about ANY place of worship. see my reply re: #1

4. Being ANTI-BURNING CHURCHES, is not an evangelical issue.

not exclusively, no. but this time, it was ... for the chosen one.

It is something everyone can support.

yep, for real reasons. not for a photo op.

It is just the type of simple, unifying message that a President should give, during a time of civil unrest.

yep. except that photo op did not involve any civil unrest.

& when it was done with violence on the chosen one's part - against peaceful protesters, so his base would get a hard on for him - it sickens those who saw it for what it was.

You are the one making an issue out of this.

donny's answer to clear the way for his photo op by gassing & flash banging peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional right to free speech & peaceful assembly to petition grievences against the gov'ment is one hell of an issue.


5. Shove your wacism up your ass, fucktard.

lol.... ^^^ TRIGGERED ^^^

1. Your assumptions about his motives are noted. I already addressed your side's impressive ability to come up with "Reasons" for your division.

2. He is not religious, but he is against burning churches. That you find that hard to believe, is just you being bat shit crazy.

3. Telling a race baiting asshole to shove their wacism up their ass, is not being triggered, it is a normal and healthy response, you fucking asshole.

4. Also, fuck you, you piece of shit.

i've watched donny in action for 40 years. i know exactly of which i speak. he was NEVER interested in church burnings until now.

if he has a history of speaking out when it's happened in the past - you would have a point. he never did, so the only point you are making is how you will adore him until the day he croaks.

oh ya.... you are SO triggered.

He wasn't President before. It was not his job to address them before. Who would care what some real estate guy from New York City has to say about some church arson?

I am not triggered. You called me a name, so I called you names back. Your confusion about how that works is just you being a stupid whore. FUCK OFF.

he spoke out about many issues. including 9/11 & invading iraq when he was just the manwhore of NYC.

you are always triggered, CB.

Your expectation that you should be able to call me names and still get civil discourse from me,


is you being a piece of shit.

YOU replied to me FIRST on this thread.

YOU called ME a name FIRST on this thread.

MY point stands.

YOU are triggered.

As fairly normal for a lib, you are such an asshole, you do it, without even realizing that you do it.

I don't care. I'm not giving you a pass, because you are so fucking stupid, that you don't even realize what a fucking asshole you are.

Stupidity is not an excuse for you being asshole.


That is not triggered, you fucking moron, that is me giving you the treatment that you have earned.

Your post absolutely displays you being triggered. You can’t restrain yourself from profanity and petty insults. That’s text book trigger. Sorry.

No, it is not. "Triggered" implies an emotional reaction to something relatively innocent.


Being insulted by an asshole and insulting the said asshole(s) back, appropriately, is not being triggered.

Attacking back in a barrage of profanity and insults is exactly what triggered is

There is nothing wrong in responding appropriately to an asshole(s).

Your definition makes no sense. IF that was true, why are you making an issue of it?

I just saw you claim that you weren’t triggered in a post where you were clearly triggered. I was just pointing out the irony

The point in saying someone is "triggered" is to delegitimize their anger, to imply that they are being irrational or over reacting.


If your definition of the word is correct, than all you were doing was accusing me of responding appropriately, insulting an ass, that had insulted me first.


That is a zinger, without much zing.


If that was what you meant, then you are correct in that I did insult an asshole, that deserved it.


Whoopie do. Thanks for the input.

You may call it appropriately reacting. I’d call it an immature over dramatic and emotional reaction... aka triggered

Your desire that I just let asshole libs insult me and just let it pass is denied.

Deal with it.

I don’t have a desire for anybody to personally insult you... you do deserve to be called out on much of what you say though, that’s what I’m hear doing.

Someone calls me out, and challenges what I say, and makes an argument against what I said, or challenges me to make an argument to defend it,


that's fine.



Some asshole just calls me a racist, then I'm going to tell them to shove their wacism up their ass and fuck off.


If you can't tell the difference between the two, you are part of hte problem.

wah wah wahhhhhh YOU came for ME first on this thread.

Your lies are just you being a liberal.

you = liar liar pants on fire!

 

[Correll]

“Goal” isn’t the right word but I’d love to see us honestly communicate about differences instead of acting like children playing a rubber and glue game. We were and always will be divided politically. We live in a democracy, a melting pot of different ideas. But the way we address these issues used to be much more civilized.

I don't know if that was true. What I recall, before Trump is a lot of people like you, calling people like me names, and just getting away with it, winning arguments, winning elections, setting policy, ruining people's lives.

The reason Trump exploded, is not because he said anything all that clever. But because there was a large group of people, who had been wanting some one to speak out for us, for a long time.


That is not going to change if/when Trump is gone. We will still be here, and people like you, will still be calling us names and using that power, to destroy us, to set policy, to fuck us over in so many ways.

That’s not True at all. Prior to Obama the Right had the White House for 8 years. During Obama the right won
back both the house and senate. You’re not being honest/accurate

And Bush stayed out of the CUlture Wars. He let people like Playtime call him and/or his supporters names and he took the high road.

We were not united. We were just as divided then as we are now. It just seemed like less to you, because there was no push back to your sides assaults.

There are always going to be people attacking and insulting, but presidents should take the high road. Presidents should pursue discourse at a higher level and block out the noise. Trump engages with it and makes that kind of garbage the national debate. It takes use nowhere except to a deeper division. No we are not just as divided as we were before trump. This is a whole new level and the stagnation and anger that it has and will cause is astounding

Before Trump, republicans would try to engage in debates, and people like playtime would smear them as racist.


If everyone "takes the highroad" these constant repeated smears create the illusion of credibility, since they are not challenged, thought the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion, used as propaganda.


For one limited example, how what you suggest, does not work.


Policies were set, based on "debates" like that. People would pay the price, because their interests were not represented, because those that were trying were shouted down by race baiters shouting "Racist".

It might have seemed better to you, but only because you agree(d) with the policies that were shoved though in that way.

There are always going to be wingnuts yelling Racist, sexist, communist, yada yada yada. That’s a childish way to conduct yourself. Not something to aspire to. I’d speak out against somebody calling somebody racist over a policy position that isn’t racist. Just as I speak out over the childish insult tactics that Trump plays. One doesn’t excuse the other.

But if that’s the stuff you want to aspire to because you think it’s effective then go right ahead. Seems to me that people like playtime are in your head. You’re giving them too much power.

Your pretense that it is just a few "wingnuts" is not credible.


It is constant theme of civil discourse and constantly injected into the Conventional Wisdom from propaganda outlets in Media, pop culture, education, ect. ect.

And it is tearing this nation apart. Ignoring it, would be like ignoring gangrene in your foot.

I see it as wingnuts and media/political hyperbole. But you obviously have a higher sensitivity and focus on it. That’s fine. But how does partaking in that which you just said is tearing our country apart help things?

You can’t make the case that the rhetoric is tearing us apart and then in the next breath justify doing the same thing because “they did it first”... makes no sense

You don't see any difference between falsely calling someone a racist, and truly calling someone an asshole?


If someone calls me a "racist", he pissed me off and convinces any minority that believes him, that I, and people like me, are to be feared and hated (see people dying in the streets).


If I call the person calling me that, an asshole, I am calling that person an asshole, and telling anyone listening, that believes me, that that person is an asshole and should not be trusted. Not that this is not setting large groups of people against each other. (see no one dying in the streets from this)

you came for me. outa nowhere....

don't forget that CB. & where on this thread did i call you a racist?

oh that's right.... it didn't happen.

You are such a fucktard, you don't even realize when you are engaging in fucktardness.

I don't care about your stupidity. I am treating you like a race baiting asshole deserves to be treated. FUCK OFF AND DIE.