Pride flag desecration is a hate crime

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[tahuyaman]

I never said it couldn't be. It would depend on the context. Did someone steal the American flag? Was it burnt because the person hates Americans? Those are things that would determine if it was a hate crime or not.

Why would stealing a flag contribute to it being a hate crime?

 

[tahuyaman]

What kind of idiot thinks stealing a flag off someone's porch isn't a crime ... (color coded for better understanding) ...

Obviously, you don't spend much time in a court-of-law ... your complete lack of experience shows ... Bubba didn't finish Middle School, so he can't read and understand written law ... sad ...

What does stealing a flag have to do with whether or not desecrating it is a hate crime?

 

[Curried Goats]

Why would stealing a flag contribute to it being a hate crime?

Well stealing the flag is required for flag burning to be a crime because in that instance you'd be burning someone else's flag. It's perfectly legal for you to burn your own American or Rainbow flag. That in and of itself is not a hate crime.

 

[tahuyaman]

Well stealing the flag is required for flag burning to be a crime because in that instance you'd be burning someone else's flag. It's perfectly legal for you to burn your own American or Rainbow flag. That in and of itself is not a hate crime.

Stealing it is in no way relevant to it being a hate crime.

 

[Curried Goats]

Stealing it is in no way relevant to it being a hate crime.

Stealing, destruction of someone else's property, whatever, hate crimes are a modifier on other crimes. It's like the difference between manslaughter or murder. You killed someone but whether you did it accidently or on purpose changes how you're charged. With hate crimes you committed a crime and if you did it out of racial or sexual or religious hate then your crime is elevated to a hate crime.

 

[tahuyaman]

Stealing, destruction of someone else's property, whatever, hate crimes are a modifier on other crimes. It's like the difference between manslaughter or murder. You killed someone but whether you did it accidently or on purpose changes how you're charged. With hate crimes you committed a crime and if you did it out of racial or sexual or religious hate then your crime is elevated to a hate crime.

So then why is it protected free speech to desecrate an American flag under those same conditions?

 

[Curried Goats]

So then why is it protected free speech to desecrate an American flag under those same conditions?

It isn't. It's only protected free speech to desecrate your own flag.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It isn't. It's only protected free speech to desecrate your own flag.

Utter bullshit

 

[Curried Goats]

Utter bullshit

These are laws you morons could look up for yourselves....

 

[SassyIrishLass]

These are laws you morons could look up for yourselves....

Or you could and realize youz an idiot

 

[Curried Goats]

Or you could and realize youz an idiot

Nope. I know what the law is. I'm confident youz the one looking like an idiot.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Nope. I know what the law is. I'm confident youz the one looking like an idiot.

I can burn any flag under the Constitution.

That's a fact... now get educated. Fcking dumbass

 

[Curried Goats]

I can burn any flag under the Constitution.

Any flag that belongs to you. That's what I said.

That's a fact... now get educated. Fcking dumbass

Learn to read you dumb bitch. You're just repeating what I said except you're saying it stupider because you can't burn just any flag. Burning flags that don't belong to you is a crime.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Any flag that belongs to you. That's what I said.

Learn to read you dumb bitch. You're just repeating what I said except you're saying it stupider because you can't burn just any flag. Burning flags that don't belong to you is a crime.

Youz mad? Lol

 

[Curried Goats]

Youz mad? Lol

That you keep making yourself look like a moron? No. Not really.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

That you keep making yourself look like a moron? No. Not really.

Youz mad. Lol

I'm playing with you.... relax.

It's not your fault you're ignorant

 

[tahuyaman]

It isn't. It's only protected free speech to desecrate your own flag.

That’s not true.

If you stole an American flag and destroyed it in public you would only be charged with the theft of the flag. If that.

 

[Curried Goats]

Youz mad. Lol

I'm playing with you.... relax.

It's not your fault you're ignorant

I love when you play with me by making yourself look racist and stupid. Fun times.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I love when you play with me by making yourself look racist and stupid. Fun times.

Youz think I carez? LoL, there lies your problem. I don't