CDZ Programs opposed by Conservatives that were successes

[rightwinger]

Nobody gives a shit about Alinsky

He is the idealogical core of Democratic Party. Do you even know the history of the ideology you subscribe to? Everything that is happening on our campuses is STRAIGHT from Alinsky manifesto.

Outside of Conservative propaganda
Nobody on the left knows who Alinsky is

Right, Progressives just happen to follow his "Rules for Radicals" by coincidence. I bet you want everyone to believe that no one on the far left ever heard of the "Cloward-Piven Strategy" either.

It is today’s Conservatives who seem to be following Rules for Radicals

Liberals never heard of them

Your using the rules now. About the ADA. Anyone of us can be disabled for any reason. So there but for the grace of God go I. But do not doubt that the costs are massive and much of it though enacted by the Federal government is forced on local governments to pay for a lot of it. And we all pay more for that in almost everything we do. In both public and private ways. On top of that there are people scamming the system costing us a lot more money. An example.....In the 1980's or so in the city I lived in, they removed and replace pavement squares adjoining to the street as the lip of the pavement was a few inches higher with cutouts that lowered to the street for wheelchairs. It cost 80 million dollars over 3 years and it was estimated there were 6 people in wheelchairs on the street in a city with over 1.5 million people. We are a spoiled nation where we pour 16 ounces of fresh clean water in an 8 oz glass.

ADA was a major investment. At the time, I thought it was a waste of money to spend so much to help a few people. So what if a few disabled are inconvenienced.
But now, my mom is nearing 90 and I see her using some of those handicapped facilities, I see how much that handicapped sticker means to her.
Someday we will all probabably benefit from them.

 

[Bush92]

Medicare
Sccial Security
Environmental Protection
OSHA
Americans with Disabilities Act
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights

Conservatives fought tooth and nail against all of them but they have proven to be such successes that even Repuplicans support them today

Conservatives created our Constitutional Democratic Republic.

 

[rightwinger]

Medicare
Sccial Security
Environmental Protection
OSHA
Americans with Disabilities Act
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights

Conservatives fought tooth and nail against all of them but they have proven to be such successes that even Repuplicans support them today

Conservatives created our Constitutional Democratic Republic.

Our founding fathers were the great Liberals of their day

Conservatives supported the king

 

[sartre play]

Alinsky? are you still stuck in the 1960s.

 

[Markle]

Medicare
Sccial Security
Environmental Protection
OSHA
Americans with Disabilities Act
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights

Conservatives fought tooth and nail against all of them but they have proven to be such successes that even Repuplicans support them today

Conservatives created our Constitutional Democratic Republic.

Our founding fathers were the great Liberals of their day

Conservatives supported the king

I would wager that if Bush92, or myself, posted that the sky is blue, you would jump in and say, NO! The sky is green, GRASS is blue!

 

[danielpalos]

The right wing alleges a subscription to truer forms of Capitalism.

We should use socialism to ensure full employment of resources in our capital markets.

We should increase market participation to the fullest extent possible for maximum market efficiencies.

 

[Markle]

The right wing alleges a subscription to truer forms of Capitalism.

We should use socialism to ensure full employment of resources in our capital markets.

We should increase market participation to the fullest extent possible for maximum market efficiencies.

We have more than full employment today without Socialism. Specifically, why change?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Medicare
Sccial Security
Environmental Protection
OSHA
Americans with Disabilities Act
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights

Conservatives fought tooth and nail against all of them but they have proven to be such successes that even Repuplicans support them today

Affirmative action is BS. Nobody should get a position over a more qualified person because of the color of their skin.

No one should be denied because of the color of their skin...but they are.
That’s why we need Affirmative Action.


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So I just heard you say, "I'm CERTAIN that everyone is a horrible racist who is only pretending to tolerate minorities because the government forces them to."

Which usually means YOU are a racist, and are projecting onto others.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Medicare
Sccial Security
Environmental Protection
OSHA
Americans with Disabilities Act
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights

Conservatives fought tooth and nail against all of them but they have proven to be such successes that even Repuplicans support them today

Affirmative action is BS. Nobody should get a position over a more qualified person because of the color of their skin.

No one should be denied because of the color of their skin...but they are.
That’s why we need Affirmative Action.


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Reverse racism isn't the solution. It's also wrong.

I agree. Everyone should be treated equal.


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So first you say we need reverse racism, but now you say it's wrong.

Typical leftist "logic".

 

[Cecilie1200]

Medicare
Sccial Security
Environmental Protection
OSHA
Americans with Disabilities Act
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights

Conservatives fought tooth and nail against all of them but they have proven to be such successes that even Repuplicans support them today

They opposed whatever the program was called that integrated the military…..I’d call that a success.

Did they? Or do you just ASSume they did, because you "know" conservatives are racists and leftists are wonderful, and therefore that's how it "must" have been?

 

[SSDD]

Social Security is the cornerstone of Americans retirement

Bullshit...Social security made retirement for Americans a nightmare...a system in which most of us are forced to contribute for our entire working lives and if we are lucky we may see a 2.5% return on our investment. You think that is a good deal? I have no problem with mandated retirement contributions...but not to the government.

 

[SSDD]

The only government program that is an unqualified success is the GI Bill educational program for vets...you must provide service to even become eligible, then you must complete the courses the pay you for taking...pass or fail...if you don't finish, withdraw, or take an incomplete, they will get their money back...There are any number of successes that came from that program...can you point to any success stories from social security?

 

[Bush92]

Medicare
Sccial Security
Environmental Protection
OSHA
Americans with Disabilities Act
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights

Conservatives fought tooth and nail against all of them but they have proven to be such successes that even Repuplicans support them today

Conservatives created our Constitutional Democratic Republic.

Our founding fathers were the great Liberals of their day

Conservatives supported the king

I dunno. The Founders adopted English common law system for the judiciary and our adversarial system is based on English system. The Founders adopted a Bill of Rights...like England. They adopted a legislative branch based on British Parliament. Our founders wanted separation from the governance of the Empire...but not it’s traditions. Sure...real liberal. Radicals like Thomas Paine were rejected by American society after the war for independence.

 

[candycorn]

Medicare
Sccial Security
Environmental Protection
OSHA
Americans with Disabilities Act
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights

Conservatives fought tooth and nail against all of them but they have proven to be such successes that even Repuplicans support them today

They opposed whatever the program was called that integrated the military…..I’d call that a success.

Did they? Or do you just ASSume they did, because you "know" conservatives are racists and leftists are wonderful, and therefore that's how it "must" have been?

Yes.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Medicare
Sccial Security
Environmental Protection
OSHA
Americans with Disabilities Act
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights

Conservatives fought tooth and nail against all of them but they have proven to be such successes that even Repuplicans support them today

They opposed whatever the program was called that integrated the military…..I’d call that a success.

Did they? Or do you just ASSume they did, because you "know" conservatives are racists and leftists are wonderful, and therefore that's how it "must" have been?

Yes.

That was really more of a rhetorical question, since we both know this is all about your erroneous assumptions based on bias, but thanks for admitting it, anyway.

 

[candycorn]

Medicare
Sccial Security
Environmental Protection
OSHA
Americans with Disabilities Act
Affirmative Action
Gay Rights

Conservatives fought tooth and nail against all of them but they have proven to be such successes that even Repuplicans support them today

They opposed whatever the program was called that integrated the military…..I’d call that a success.

Did they? Or do you just ASSume they did, because you "know" conservatives are racists and leftists are wonderful, and therefore that's how it "must" have been?

Yes.

That was really more of a rhetorical question, since we both know this is all about your erroneous assumptions based on bias, but thanks for admitting it, anyway.

Pfft…your opinion is less than worthless smoky.

 

[Markle]

Environmental Protection was passed nearly unanimously and signed by Nixon. Since that time, Conservatives have turned against it to the point Trump refuses to enforce it

EPA has ensured we have clean air, rivers, uncontaminated land

Your reliable source and a working link to your allegation that President Donald Trump refuses to enforce any environmental laws.

The EPA is shown

here in action!

 

[initforme]

Cutting Medicare or Medicaid is political suicide....voters are watching this like Hawks.

 

[danielpalos]

The right wing alleges a subscription to truer forms of Capitalism.

We should use socialism to ensure full employment of resources in our capital markets.

We should increase market participation to the fullest extent possible for maximum market efficiencies.

We have more than full employment today without Socialism. Specifically, why change?

why do you say that? capitalism even has a natural rate of inefficient, unemployment.

 

[rightwinger]

Environmental Protection was passed nearly unanimously and signed by Nixon. Since that time, Conservatives have turned against it to the point Trump refuses to enforce it

EPA has ensured we have clean air, rivers, uncontaminated land

Your reliable source and a working link to your allegation that President Donald Trump refuses to enforce any environmental laws.

The EPA is shown

here in action!

Accidental spill that lasted a few days

Hardly erases fifty years of EPA directed cleanups and protections that have preserved our environment

Notice how the Bald Eagle has returned?