Racist Black Judge Railroading Amber Guyger

[bodecea]

That is only known by hindsight....she did not have the ability to engage in hindsight...she was living and acting in real time....aka....believing she was in her own apartment in the presence of a intruder....naturally and reasonably she was thus subjected to being in reasonable fear of her life as would anyone in such a scenario...

"Oh my God, he has ICE CREAM!!!! Get him!"

all you monday morning quarterbackers are simply using hindsight to condemn her and also not understanding how quickly all of it transpired...she had to make a decision of life or death in a couple of seconds in a dark apartment which she honestly believed to be her own....to understand her actions you have to understand what was going on in her head.

What was going on in her head was she was thinking about fucking her married partner, and wasn't paying attention to where she was, so she blundered into someone else's apartment.

and then she killed someone for absolutely no good reason.

Then she tried to lie about it.

You realise you've offered NOTHING of substance but snarky comments.

Try harder to defend your indefensible position

You just made nothing of substance....except a snarky comment...in reply to a post actually talking about the thread topic.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

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So when a store owner yells to a shoplifter to "stop or I will shoot", that is just as lawful as any order a cop yells.

And one would hope, unless the shop owner's life is in immediate danger, that if they did shoot and kill a shoplifter running away, they'd get 10 or more years in the pokey.

Depends on the state, but the whole point of the Stand Your Ground law is that you are also allowed to use deadly force to protect possessions as well as your safety.
In most states, you would only be charged when you shoot a thief trying to escape with your property, is if it was not actually your property.

When you yell, "Stop thief", that is a lawful order if on your property.

Trespassing is not stand your ground

It has been shown over and over she was a innocent trespasser.

The only things up for argument was whether or not she used excessive force and or was she in reasonable fear of her life?

The problem we see on here is too many have no ability for analytical thinking.

To understand whether or not she was in reasonable fear of her life one has to consider her state of mind.

That is the big mistake most make...with the benefit of hindsight and lack of knowledge on the law of self defense they come to erroneous conclusions and ignore her state of mind which is critical to this case.

Again....no way this was a case of murder....manslaughter or negligent homicide at most....that would even be a stretch.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Police said 17-year-old Bobby Lane was in an area of thick foliage when a friend accidentally shot Lane, thinking he was a deer.

Blam! Blam! Yeah! You dead!
Oopsies!
Tragic Accident! Mistake! Wasn't me!

 

[TheGreenHornet]

In the past, there was a minimal height and weight requirement so that police would be strong enough to not have to rely on their gun. Was it a bad idea to eliminate this so that more women could join the force?

Just my opinion because too lazy to research it right now. But I think that, unfortunately, bullies and wimps are more or less evenly distributed. Big and small are just as apt to use lethal force recklessly in such situations. The "great equalizer" plus reminding the big they have no excuse for being bullies no longer the norm. Now Marvel and video games have everyone thinking men, huge monsters even, present little threat to women. That's right, the women are smarter. They still ain't really as tough though. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be cops. Means cops should only carry loaded guns in truly life threatening situations where encountering armed idiots is reasonably expected. Again, what used to be the norm.

I was not thinking of bullies or wimps, but that when Amber saw the Black man larger than she was, she obviously was scared.
Being scared for her life is likely why she shot.
But the question is whether or not a person who was physically larger would be less likely to be frightened, and therefore less likely to shoot?
Would a larger person have less need to rely on a gun and be able to rely on physical self defense measures instead?

How would she know he was bigger, she shot him while he was still seated.

Not true...that was debunked. His fate was sealed when he ignored her command to show his hands and began to advance on her.

She was a well trained police officer and acted in accordance with dept. guidelines.

 

[rightwinger]

Being stupid does not deny anyone the right to self defense.

There was no threat to her, she was the threat in the situation. She got what she deserved now move on.

That is only known by hindsight....she did not have the ability to engage in hindsight...she was living and acting in real time....aka....believing she was in her own apartment in the presence of a intruder....naturally and reasonably she was thus subjected to being in reasonable fear of her life as would anyone in such a scenario...all you monday morning quarterbackers are simply using hindsight to condemn her and also not understanding how quickly all of it transpired...she had to make a decision of life or death in a couple of seconds in a dark apartment which she honestly believed to be her own....to understand her actions you have to understand what was going on in her head.

Very easy to sit back after everything has transpired and all the facts are known and with such hindsight oh...but she was not really in danger. Get real morons.

That makes no difference. If I'm showing off my gun and it go's off and kills someone I am exposed to criminal charges. If I have a pit bull and it eats a kid at the dog park I am exposed to criminal charges. If I have a horse (and I have actually seen this one) and it gets loose, runs into traffic, causes an accident I am exposed to criminal charges. If I own a bar and I over serve a customer and they leave and kill someone I am exposed to criminal charges. None of those examples are deliberate acts, but I can be held criminally liable in any one of those. And you miss the question she answered that pretty much ended it for Guyger. That was "did you intend to kill Mr. Jean"? So I don't say she got out of her car, sent a pic of her titties to work dude then decided to go shoot some black dude. Anyone who does is retarded and weak. I am saying she fucked up and a man died. When this happens the person who did the shooting is held to account.

It all comes down to accountability for your actions

You own the gun, you make the decisions
If you make a bad decision, even with good intent, you will be held accountable.

That is a very broad statement...so broad as to be irrelevant.

Pretty simple

You pull the trigger, you are accountable for the outcome

 

[Grumblenuts]

A Texas sheriff on Friday said the death of a 6-year-old boy struck by a stray bullet in an officer-involved shooting was a “tragic accident” and police officers had been following proper protocols.

OMG, what are the odds? This. Never. Happens!

Oopsies!

 

[bodecea]

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So when a store owner yells to a shoplifter to "stop or I will shoot", that is just as lawful as any order a cop yells.

And one would hope, unless the shop owner's life is in immediate danger, that if they did shoot and kill a shoplifter running away, they'd get 10 or more years in the pokey.

Depends on the state, but the whole point of the Stand Your Ground law is that you are also allowed to use deadly force to protect possessions as well as your safety.
In most states, you would only be charged when you shoot a thief trying to escape with your property, is if it was not actually your property.

When you yell, "Stop thief", that is a lawful order if on your property.

Trespassing is not stand your ground

It has been shown over and over she was a innocent trespasser.

The only things up for argument was whether or not she used excessive force and or was she in reasonable fear of her life?

The problem we see on here is too many have no ability for analytical thinking.

To understand whether or not she was in reasonable fear of her life one has to consider her state of mind.

That is the big mistake most make...with the benefit of hindsight and lack of knowledge on the law of self defense they come to erroneous conclusions and ignore her state of mind which is critical to this case.

Again....no way this was a case of murder....manslaughter or negligent homicide at most....that would even be a stretch.

Not so innocent. She killed the homeowner while he was sitting eating ice cream.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I haven't even been following this issue for one second but this woman walks into the wrong apartment and shoots the man she finds there? She didn't instantly realize she was in someone else's home the minute she walked through the door?
That seems bizarre.

 

[Grumblenuts]

A toddler found a handgun and fatally shot himself. His case is one of at least 73 accidental child deaths involving a gun in 2018

Oopsies! How in the hell!?
Safety = No Accident!

 

[flewism]

She is guilty of unjustifiably taking the life of an innocent man, her state of mind is her problem.

Botham Jean is only guilty of getting up off his own couch. She silently as she could entered his apartment with gun drawn, confronted him, he was attempting get up off the couch and she double tapped him.

The evidence points to that, we only have her word that she stated "let me see your hands"

She never called for backup prior to entering the apartment with her weapon drawn. She didn't call 911 either if she thought someone had broke in to "HER" apartment prior to entering, she called 911 after she shot him.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Also didn't attempt first aid.

In the United States, over 1.69 million kids age 18 and under are living in households with loaded and unlocked firearms, setting the scene for possible tragedy if
firearms are not locked and stored properly.

Oopsies!
So much "tragedy"..
I can't help thinking there's a pattern here?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

She is guilty of unjustifiably taking the life of an innocent man, her state of mind is her problem.

Botham Jean is only guilty of getting up off his own couch. She silently as she could entered his apartment with gun drawn, confronted him, he was attempting get up off the couch and she double tapped him.

The evidence points to that, we only have her word that she stated "let me see your hands"

She never called for backup prior to entering the apartment with her weapon drawn. She didn't call 911 either if she thought someone had broke in to "HER" apartment prior to entering, she called 911 after she shot him.

You're the first I read here (but predicted) that the left sees her as a white woman who purposely set out to kill a black man. Most of you believe it, even if you're not willing to actually say it

 

[Grumblenuts]

She is guilty of unjustifiably taking the life of an innocent man, her state of mind is her problem.

Botham Jean is only guilty of getting up off his own couch. She silently as she could entered his apartment with gun drawn, confronted him, he was attempting get up off the couch and she double tapped him.

The evidence points to that, we only have her word that she stated "let me see your hands"

She never called for backup prior to entering the apartment with her weapon drawn. She didn't call 911 either if she thought someone had broke in to "HER" apartment prior to entering, she called 911 after she shot him.

You're the first I read here (but predicted) that the left sees her as a white woman who purposely set out to kill a black man. Most of you believe it, even if you're not willing to actually say it

Yep, short blonde whites see black people through doors doncha know!

 

[rightwinger]

She is guilty of unjustifiably taking the life of an innocent man, her state of mind is her problem.

Botham Jean is only guilty of getting up off his own couch. She silently as she could entered his apartment with gun drawn, confronted him, he was attempting get up off the couch and she double tapped him.

The evidence points to that, we only have her word that she stated "let me see your hands"

She never called for backup prior to entering the apartment with her weapon drawn. She didn't call 911 either if she thought someone had broke in to "HER" apartment prior to entering, she called 911 after she shot him.

You're the first I read here (but predicted) that the left sees her as a white woman who purposely set out to kill a black man. Most of you believe it, even if you're not willing to actually say it

Show where anyone said that

 

[Grumblenuts]

Boy how she inserts the whole foot like that! Are you even on "the left", flewy?

 

[Grumblenuts]

The girl's mother videotaped her daughter trying out the Uzi, and said she watched as the gun recoiled and her daughter lost control of it. The girl reportedly said the Uzi was "too much" for her after she fired the weapon and was unable to control the muzzle rise, causing the barrel to be directed at Vacca. Vacca is believed to have died from a single shot to the head.

Oops! Sorry!

 

[flewism]

What can I say, there is a first time for everything.

 

[flewism]

Some people believe her errors and confusion diminishes her accountability of her actions, I do not. She should be thankful she only got 10 year obviously the jury took pity on her stupidity. She will do 8 years minimum if she is a considered dedicated prisoner. She should serve every day of that.

 

[WillPower]

9,658 views......

 

[Common Sense Dude]

WillPower, this has nothing to do with race, nor should it.

Why did she get off on the wrong floor and walk into the wrong apartment? She was too busy glaring at her goddamn phone and the sexting messages with her partner. Had she been paying attention to where she was going instead of staring at her phone, this likely would have never happened.

In the end she got what she deserved, except I think it should have been a harsher sentence. She was found guilty of murder which deserves more than 10 years behind bars. There's a price to pay for being distracted by a worthless cell phone especially when you kill someone.