Racist groups vs Free Speech, i've converted...

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You guys brought these jackholes out of the woodwork and gave them a platform,

Interesting........So, the fact that all of these "jackholes" have come out in full support of Trump does NOT bother you in the least??? Its all "liberals' fault?

I didn't vote for Trump. I don't give a fuck about him. I'm sure most of those Antifa tards supported Sanders, like that guy who shot Scalise. Does that NOT bother you in the least??? Is that all conservatives' faults?

 

[eagle1462010]

You guys brought these jackholes out of the woodwork and gave them a platform,

Interesting........So, the fact that all of these "jackholes" have come out in full support of Trump does NOT bother you in the least??? Its all "liberals' fault?

Did you invite the fly to your picnic or did he come on his own...........

 

[nat4900]

I'm sure most of those Antifa tards supported Sanders, like that guy who shot Scalise.

A bit of a fucking stretch, don't you think......LOL

 

[monkeytrots]

Hyup - nuttin' but ad hominen - When you can't attack the argument, attack the person.

Saul Alynski 101

Or, to put it more bluntly; If ya can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, Baffle 'em with BullSh*t.

btw: Al Jazeera and ISIS fully support the DNC - and contribute mightily to them. Just sayin' ....

How many pallets of money were loaded in the wee hours of the morning onto an un-marked Jet, to be laundered through SWISS BANKS for delivery to a TERRORIST NATION - and who was it that dun did dat ?

Oh, yeah - We fergits - dem specifics of a United States Agreement aren't allowed to be seen by us mere deplorables. Dey be under lock and key - heaven forbid we deplorables should be told anything about ACTUAL TREASON.


STILL LAUGHING - YOU ARE A HOOT AND A HALF !!!!

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
–George Orwell, 1984

 

[Lakhota]

As many other fellow posters, I too face that dilemma as to whether fully allow KKK members, WS and neo-Nazis to openly spew their hatred or opt to stop their Constitution-allowed speech.

It is a tough conundrum. The problem rests with how that hate speech manages to recruit gullible and somewhat ignorant young people to join in that hate-filled ideology.

The best comparison I can make is whether we would opt to STOP radical Muslims to recruit disenfranchised young people to become terrorists for a dubious cause....After all, we sometime monitor what may go on in a Mosque to intervene if that environment is spewing hate filled and violent behaviors......

We all must make a choice regarding our love of free expression, and our desire to be safe from the spreading of more hatred.

The First Amendment exists to protect unpopular speech, as popular speech obviously needs no such protections. Regarding your comparison to Muslim terrorist recruitment, that's a little different. Muslims terrorists are actually harming and killing people. If there is ample evidence that someone is planning an attack that isn't free speech. However, someone just being affiliated with or conversing with a radical element shouldn't necessarily be illegal. With the exception of that tard in Charlottesville with the car, the KKK and neo-Nazis and those other white supremacists jagoffs haven't done lynchings and shit like that in decades. They're basically neutered organizations, who quite frankly, if everyone would simply ignore and stop confronting and giving them all of this media coverage would go back into the holes they crawled out of.

Are you one of the dumbasses who ignores that Trump is emboldening and encouraging white nationalist racists with his words and dog whistles? Sounds like it...

People like you have also encouraged them with your constant, childish accusations of all Trump voters being racist, people only opposing Obama's policies because he's black, telling white people they are supposed to feel guilty about their skin color because of some alleged privilege they have, rants about "toxic" masculinity, and all of this other social justice warrior garbage you nut jobs have been spewing for the last few years. You guys brought these jackholes out of the woodwork and gave them a platform, so take a look in the mirror, clown. You're just as guilty for creating the divisions.

Please provide some "credible" examples of "explicitly" what you claim. Then get off your mod bully pulpit.

DanK

 

[monkeytrots]

Toooooo Funny !!! Fred Trump was no 'kkk sympathizer' - that BS WaPo story has been discredited so many times it's laughable.

Here.....just to help with your constipation........(Fred was just hanging out with the wrong folks.....LOL)

The Times account simply names Fred Trump as one of the seven individuals arrested at the rally, and it states that he was released without charges, leaving room for the possibility that he "may have been an innocent bystander, falsely named, or otherwise the victim of mistaken identity during or following a chaotic event."

And the proof that he was a kkk sympathizer is where ? You have zilch and had to reach back 90 years for .... a big fat nothing burger. But here let's try this one on for size, CURRENT EVENTS, and it goes right to the HEART of the latest DNC candidate and the ONGOING RACISM that candidate and that candidate's family espouse and EMBRACE PROUDLY ....
4.) Bill Clinton

In 1992, Bill Clinton told the New York Times that it was a “mistake” for him to golf at an all-white country club and for good measure, further accused then-President George H.W. Bush and Republicans “of dividing the country racially.”

When Bill Clinton selected global warming fear monger Al Gore as his Vice President, it clearly did not bother him that Gore’s dad walked “arm-in-arm with other segregationist Democrats to kill the Civil Rights act of 1964.” It further did not occur to Bill Clinton to distance himself from “notorious segregationist,” racist, pro-communist, and anti-Semitic “mentor” former Arkansas Sen. J. William Fulbright, who “was one of ninety-nine congressional Democrats to sign the Southern Manifesto, which declared that the Southern states had a right to keep their populations segregated by race.”

As an aside, the famous Fulbright fellowship has been recently renamed to the “J. William Fulbright – Hillary Rodham Clinton Fellowship.”

The Southern Manifesto, as an aside, “was signed by 101 members of the U.S. Congress, including 19 senators and 82 members of the House of Representatives. Ninety-nine of them were Democrats.”

As reported at National Review, Bill Clinton was among “three state officials the NAACP sued in 1989 under the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965″ for suppressing the black vote. Quoting the Arkansas Gazette from December 6, 1989, the article continues: “Plaintiffs offered plenty of proof of monolithic voting along racial lines, intimidation of black voters and candidates and other official acts that made voting harder for blacks…the evidence at the trial was indeed overwhelming that the Voting Rights Act had been violated…”

The article continues:

During his 12-year tenure, Governor Clinton never approved a state civil-rights law. However, he did issue birthday proclamations honoring Confederate leaders Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee. He also signed Act 116 in 1987. That statute reconfirmed that the star directly above the word “Arkansas” in the state flag “is to commemorate the Confederate States of America.” Arkansas also observed Confederate Flag Day every year Clinton served…


via National Review

According to the book Game Change, as reported in an article at the NY Daily News, Bill Clinton was hoping for the late Ted Kennedy’s endorsement for his wife Hillary as President but Kennedy threw his support behind Obama, prompting Clinton to say, “the only reason you are endorsing him is because he’s black. Let’s just be clear.”

Clinton allegedly added,

A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.

 

[Avatar4321]

Adolf Trump tweeted that he applauds those who are speaking out against hate and bigotry. Well, Trump, someone has to.

Well you sure wont

 

[WelfareQueen]

As many other fellow posters, I too face that dilemma as to whether fully allow KKK members, WS and neo-Nazis to openly spew their hatred or opt to stop their Constitution-allowed speech.

It is a tough conundrum. The problem rests with how that hate speech manages to recruit gullible and somewhat ignorant young people to join in that hate-filled ideology.

The best comparison I can make is whether we would opt to STOP radical Muslims to recruit disenfranchised young people to become terrorists for a dubious cause....After all, we sometime monitor what may go on in a Mosque to intervene if that environment is spewing hate filled and violent behaviors......

We all must make a choice regarding our love of free expression, and our desire to be safe from the spreading of more hatred.

It's the snowflake conundrum only in your mind. Words cannot hurt you. People in America have the right to express their opinions. And no....you don't have to like it.

 

[Avatar4321]

How funny is it to hear rightwing bigots of various stripes demanding their constitutional right to oppose constitutional rights?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Right here is the problem, everyone who disagrees with the left is a bigot, racist or what ever, they have to be demonized and dehumanized to justify the hate coming form the left, while they attempt to claim some moral high ground. The reality is this poster and many others are nothing but Alinksy acolytes who wish to destroy the very fabric of the country.


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Not all Conservatives or even alt-right people are considered racists or bigots by the left. Lot's of their views are respected if not agreed with. Economic populism, anti free trade are a few.

The fact that these people have allowed themselves to become associated with groups that profess extremely un-American views is their won fault.

If you consider the KKK and NAZIS to be part of the 'fabric of this country', then yes, we definitely want to destroy that fabric.

Nonsense. The left frequently calls anyone who disagrees with them as racist regardless of why they are disagreeing.

That's your problem! And the problem of almost all Conservatives in an nutshell!

There is no such thing as 'the left'. I am an individual and speak for myself only. No one speaks for me.

I do not call everyone that I disagree with a racist.

It's the Conservatives in this country that tend to adopt 'lock-step' political points of view. It's the Conservatives that have adopted the term alt-right.

Just look at the Charlottesville 'Unite the Right' rally. Non-racist Conservatives chose to 'Unite' with the KKK, neo-NAZis and other White supremist groups. Your choice to unite into one political block.

If liberals united they way conservatives do there would not be a conservative in governement. Liberals are individuals.

The entire 'Occupy Wall St' movement amounted to nothing because liberals never seem to unite or agree on anything.

If Conservatives had the same sense of individuality that liberals have, there would be no 'Unite the Right'.

So don't blame me for what anyone else has said. That's their opinion. not mine.

So there is no left, but if you united you couldn't be stopped?

 

[Avatar4321]

As many other fellow posters, I too face that dilemma as to whether fully allow KKK members, WS and neo-Nazis to openly spew their hatred or opt to stop their Constitution-allowed speech.

It is a tough conundrum. The problem rests with how that hate speech manages to recruit gullible and somewhat ignorant young people to join in that hate-filled ideology.

The best comparison I can make is whether we would opt to STOP radical Muslims to recruit disenfranchised young people to become terrorists for a dubious cause....After all, we sometime monitor what may go on in a Mosque to intervene if that environment is spewing hate filled and violent behaviors......

We all must make a choice regarding our love of free expression, and our desire to be safe from the spreading of more hatred.

hate speech is still constitutionally protected.

but that doesn't mean you can't call them losers.

the proper response is to counter what the walking failures say with reality and by standing up to the losers.

I'm sure we could call all you lefties protesting free speech losers, but I'm just still completely shocked you openly did it.

 

[Avatar4321]

"Witches against White Supremacy" LOL!

Can these Alt Left morons be any more bat shit crazy?



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They think they're witches, so probably not.

Ironically nazis are huge on witchcraft

These Moon Bats are not exactly the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.

you aren't smart enough to comment on anyone else's intellect.

thanks.

Yet he clearly just did.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I'm sure most of those Antifa tards supported Sanders, like that guy who shot Scalise.

A bit of a fucking stretch, don't you think......LOL

No, not at all. Why do you?

 

[Avatar4321]

Btw should we take this to mean you want to recreate the committee for unAmerican activities? With Republican congress?

Obviously NOT............bear in mind that Roy Cohn......McCarthy's chief counsel (and cross-dresser) was ALSO Trump's more influential mentor.....thanks to KKK sympathizer, Fred Trump.....

Then why are you complaining?

 

[nat4900]

Clinton allegedly added,

Your moronic attempt to divert this thread to Bill Clinton is........well, both cute and pathetic.........LOL

 

[Desperado]

Whatever happened to the American adage: "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

 

[nat4900]

It's the snowflake conundrum only in your mind. Words cannot hurt you. People in America have the right to express their opinions. And no....you don't have to like it.

The objective of my O/P went right over your half brain........LOL

 

[MaryL]

As many other fellow posters, I too face that dilemma as to whether fully allow KKK members, WS and neo-Nazis to openly spew their hatred or opt to stop their Constitution-allowed speech.

It is a tough conundrum. The problem rests with how that hate speech manages to recruit gullible and somewhat ignorant young people to join in that hate-filled ideology.

The best comparison I can make is whether we would opt to STOP radical Muslims to recruit disenfranchised young people to become terrorists for a dubious cause....After all, we sometime monitor what may go on in a Mosque to intervene if that environment is spewing hate filled and violent behaviors......

We all must make a choice regarding our love of free expression, and our desire to be safe from the spreading of more hatred.

Hate Speech is like porn, it's subjective and a personal judgement call most of the time. I am just going to repeat this (yawn) again: "You become the thing you hate", to paraphrase Nietzsche. Today it's "racists", yesterday it was communists, the era before, it was witches. The whipping boys of the popular conscience.

 

[nat4900]

Whatever happened to the American adage: "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

Nothing wrong with that citation......except it was from a British biographer of the French writer Voltaire.......besides that.....nothing wrong.......LOL

 

[nat4900]

Hate Speech is like porn, it's subjective and a personal judgement call most of the time. I am just going to repeat this (yawn) again: "You become the thing you hate", to paraphrase Nietzsche. Today it's "racists", yesterday it was communists, the era before, it was witches. The whipping boys of the popular conscience.

I agree.........and in the Handmaiden's Tale there is the interesting quote that basically [paraphrased] states......"Silence makes one Complicit"

 

[Billo_Really]

As many other fellow posters, I too face that dilemma as to whether fully allow KKK members, WS and neo-Nazis to openly spew their hatred or opt to stop their Constitution-allowed speech.

It is a tough conundrum. The problem rests with how that hate speech manages to recruit gullible and somewhat ignorant young people to join in that hate-filled ideology.

The best comparison I can make is whether we would opt to STOP radical Muslims to recruit disenfranchised young people to become terrorists for a dubious cause....After all, we sometime monitor what may go on in a Mosque to intervene if that environment is spewing hate filled and violent behaviors......

We all must make a choice regarding our love of free expression, and our desire to be safe from the spreading of more hatred.

You can't stop the free speech from hate groups. That's in the Constitution and there's not much you can do about that. You can tell the government to stop cops from siding with the hate groups. They let WS members disperse peacefully, then turn their batons and tear gas on peaceful counter-protesters and arrest them for illegally assembling.

As far as the Muslim issue, we need to stop bombing their countries back to the stone age. And more importantly, we need to stop giving unconditional support to Israel. If we went over there and drove those asshole Israelis out of the OPT, there wouldn't be another terrorist bomb detonated in this country, unless it was the Mossad.