Radical Islam needs to be snuffed out in Europe.

[Kalam]

Russians don't fuck around! They don't worry about the calls for the "humane" war or "proportional" force, then beat down their enemy until they are not moving!

Yet they can't manage to crush a tiny resistance movement in a tiny, impoverished border republic. Russian soldiers in the Caucasus are vodka-swilling rapists and thugs. FSB terrorists will never bring an end to the jihad in Chechnya until the demands of the mujahideen have been met.

Funny how you point out the Muslim Chechen suffer seeming 100 folder worse under the Russians than the Palestinians under the Russians, yet the Muslims say nothing about this in fact they force alliances with Russia.

No Muslim is in any alliance with Russia, only apostate nations masquerading as "Islamic" states. True believers do not form alliances with oppressors simply because doing so may be politically expedient. As for Palestinians, do you want to guess what the most widely-spoken first language in Israel is after Hebrew and Arabic?

 

[GHook93]

How about ALL radical religion needs to be eliminated? Radical Islamics are no worse/better then radical Christians, Radical Jews etc....

You say Islam is a violent religion. Maybe so, how about we add up all the people murdered in the name of Christ during the crusades.

Islam is poison. Every nation that is predominatly muslim has massive problems. They are intolerant, murderous, effigy burning, flag stomping shit scum.

You cant judge people of today by the actions of people that are no longer alive. Bringing up the crusades as a point against todays christians is the same as people trying to blame you for slavery. Its just dumb. You should not make this mistake again in thefuture.

So how is it ok for you to say that Islam is poison based upon the actions of some in just the past couple decades when the religion has been around for centuries, but when I use the crusades to show that christians haven't always been angels, then that's just dumb.

Islam peaceful back in the day? You do know the Islamic crusades were far more intense, long, successful and covered far greater territory. Islam was spread by the sword.

 

[Godboy]

Any "terrorism" on the part of the mujahideen is entirely the fault of the Russians for initiating hostilities in the first place. Every time a peaceful solution was in sight, Russia chose violence. Aslan Maskhadov (RA) was always willing to negotiate; he was killed. Abdul-Halim Sadulayev (RA) forbade killing and capturing civilians; he was killed. Now Amir Dokka has turned to striking at the heart of Russian centers of commerce in response to each Russian massacre of civilians. Russia forced the mujahideen to employ the tactics they use today. Targeting civilians is wrong, but those kinds of attacks are rare and occur only in response to similar attacks perpetrated regularly by Russia.

Are you seriously trying to convince me that there are situations where terrorism is ok, and did you seriously just try to minimize the intentional targerting of civilians because "it doesnt happen too often"?

Fuck off muslim terror loving scum. Your people and their culture are inferior, barbaric and add nothing positive to the planet earth or its inhabitants. At least the war on terror has been putting your foul people in their place.... 6 feet under. I bet THOUSANDS of them will die this year and ill celebrate every one of them.

 

[Kalam]

Are you seriously trying to convince me that there are situations where terrorism is ok, and did you seriously just try to minimize the intentional targerting of civilians because "it doesnt happen too often"?

If I did, I'd be no different from the average American. Well, actually I would. The operations of the mujahideen don't incur nearly as many civilian casualties:

Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fuck off muslim terror loving scum. Your people and their culture are inferior, barbaric and add nothing positive to the planet earth or its inhabitants. At least the war on terror has been putting your foul people in their place.... 6 feet under. I bet THOUSANDS of them will die this year and ill celebrate every one of them.

I'm glad to know that you have nothing better to do with your time. I can't say that I'm surprised. As for your claim of "superiority" to Muslims, I think that the quality of your posts here makes that somewhat difficult to believe.

And think not of those who are killed in the way of Allah as dead. Nay, they are alive near their Lord; they are given provision. Rejoicing in what Allah bestowed them of His bounty, they receive good tidings about those who have not yet joined them but are left behind - that no fear will be on them, and they will not grieve. - 3:169-170
​

 

[Kalam]

Islam peaceful back in the day? You do know the Islamic crusades were far more intense, long, successful and covered far greater territory. Islam was spread by the sword.

Not comparable. Unlike the Church, none of the Rashidun approved of any indiscriminate slaughter of noncombatants. Moreover, the Crusades did nothing but spread violence. The spread of Islam saw oppressive societies replaced with righteous societies.

O people! I charge you with ten rules; learn them well!

Do no betray or misappropriate any part of the booty; do not practice treachery or mutilation. Do not kill a young child, an old man, or a woman. Do not uproot or burn palms or cut down fruitful trees. Do not slaughter a sheep or a cow or a camel, except for food. You will meet people who have set themselves apart in hermitages; leave them to accomplish the purpose for which they have done this. You will come upon people who will bring you dishes with various kinds of foods. If you partake of them, pronounce God's name over what you eat. You will meet people who have shaved the crown of their heads, leaving a band of hair around it (monks). Go in Gods name, and may God protect you from sword and pestilence. - the words of Abu Bakr as-Siddiq (RA) as reported by At-Tabari​

 

[Jack Fate]

“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur’an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth”

--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998

http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2005/09/axis-of-islam-verses-of-hate.html

 

[Coyote]

“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur’an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth”

--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998

Pedestrian Infidel: Axis of Islam: Verses of Hate

Looks like Omar will butt heads with Gary then....

So let us be blunt about it: We must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will be get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God. -- Gary North, 1982

 

[Jack Fate]

“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur’an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth”

--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998

Pedestrian Infidel: Axis of Islam: Verses of Hate

Looks like Omar will butt heads with Gary then....

So let us be blunt about it: We must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will be get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God. -- Gary North, 1982

The problem seems to me to be CAIR. CAIR speaks for mainstream muslims in the USA. Where is Gary North today? He sure didn't speak for mainstream Christians.

 

[Biggles]

There is no excuse for allowing Radical Islam to teach Satan Worship all across Europe.

In the United States, the various state militias will start eliminating any Radical Islamic Imman who brings his religion of Satan Worship to America.

Europe needs the equivalent of the State Militias in the United States to take action. Right now the only ones who have shown that they are brave enough are the skin head gangs. I applaud them their efforts. But we need more REAL men to step forward. Aren't there any Fascists in France any more.

Damn, people, let's get going. The life you save may be your mothers or your daughters. Remember as we say in the US Militias, the only good Radical Islamic is a dead Radical Islamic. Send them to meet their God Satan. Do it in a hurry.

Newbs...do you support mass graves or incinerators?

Waterboard, then 12 gauge.

 

[Biggles]

Radical Islam needs to be eliminated worldwide. Radical Islam is and always has been about evil, murder, destruction, fear, enslavement, and war:

Ask Thomas Jefferson, as I posted earlier.

What Thomas Jefferson learned
from the Muslim book of jihad
By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
January 2007

Democrat Keith Ellison is now officially the first Muslim United States congressman. True to his pledge, he placed his hand on the Quran, the Muslim book of jihad and pledged his allegiance to the United States during his ceremonial swearing-in.

Capitol Hill staff said Ellison's swearing-in photo opportunity drew more media than they had ever seen in the history of the U.S. House. Ellison represents the 5th Congressional District of Minnesota.

The Quran Ellison used was no ordinary book. It once belonged to Thomas Jefferson, third president of the United States and one of America's founding fathers. Ellison borrowed it from the Rare Book Section of the Library of Congress. It was one of the 6,500 Jefferson books archived in the library.

Ellison, who was born in Detroit and converted to Islam while in college, said he chose to use Jefferson's Quran because it showed that "a visionary like Jefferson" believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources.

There is no doubt Ellison was right about Jefferson believing wisdom could be "gleaned" from the Muslim Quran. At the time Jefferson owned the book, he needed to know everything possible about Muslims because he was about to advocate war against the Islamic "Barbary" states of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli.

Ellison's use of Jefferson's Quran as a prop illuminates a subject once well-known in the history of the United States, but, which today, is mostly forgotten - the Muslim pirate slavers who over many centuries enslaved millions of Africans and tens of thousands of Christian Europeans and Americans in the Islamic "Barbary" states.

Over the course of 10 centuries, Muslim pirates cruised the African and Mediterranean coastline, pillaging villages and seizing slaves.

The taking of slaves in pre-dawn raids on unsuspecting coastal villages had a high casualty rate. It was typical of Muslim raiders to kill off as many of the "non-Muslim" older men and women as possible so the preferred "booty" of only young women and children could be collected.

Young non-Muslim women were targeted because of their value as concubines in Islamic markets. Islamic law provides for the sexual interests of Muslim men by allowing them to take as many as four wives at one time and to have as many concubines as their fortunes allow.

Boys, as young as 9 or 10 years old, were often mutilated to create eunuchs who would bring higher prices in the slave markets of the Middle East. Muslim slave traders created "eunuch stations" along major African slave routes so the necessary surgery could be performed. It was estimated that only a small number of the boys subjected to the mutilation survived after the surgery.

When American colonists rebelled against British rule in 1776, American merchant ships lost Royal Navy protection. With no American Navy for protection, American ships were attacked and their Christian crews enslaved by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the "Dey of Algiers"--an Islamist warlord ruling Algeria.

Because American commerce in the Mediterranean was being destroyed by the pirates, the Continental Congress agreed in 1784 to negotiate treaties with the four Barbary States. Congress appointed a special commission consisting of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin, to oversee the negotiations.

Lacking the ability to protect its merchant ships in the Mediterranean, the new America government tried to appease the Muslim slavers by agreeing to pay tribute and ransoms in order to retrieve seized American ships and buy the freedom of enslaved sailors.

Adams argued in favor of paying tribute as the cheapest way to get American commerce in the Mediterranean moving again. Jefferson was opposed. He believed there would be no end to the demands for tribute and wanted matters settled "through the medium of war." He proposed a league of trading nations to force an end to Muslim piracy.

In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and Adams, then the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the "Dey of Algiers" ambassador to Britain.

The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress' vote to appease.

During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."

For the following 15 years, the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to 20 percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800.

Not long after Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, he dispatched a group of frigates to defend American interests in the Mediterranean, and informed Congress.

Declaring that America was going to spend "millions for defense but not one cent for tribute," Jefferson pressed the issue by deploying American Marines and many of America's best warships to the Muslim Barbary Coast.

The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, USS Philadelphia, USS Chesapeake, USS Argus, USS Syren and USS Intrepid all saw action.

In 1805, American Marines marched across the desert from Egypt into Tripolitania, forcing the surrender of Tripoli and the freeing of all American slaves.

During the Jefferson administration, the Muslim Barbary States, crumbling as a result of intense American naval bombardment and on shore raids by Marines, finally officially agreed to abandon slavery and piracy.

Jefferson's victory over the Muslims lives on today in the Marine Hymn, with the line, "From the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli, We fight our country's battles in the air, on land and sea."

It wasn't until 1815 that the problem was fully settled by the total defeat of all the Muslim slave trading pirates.

Jefferson had been right. The "medium of war" was the only way to put and end to the Muslim problem. Mr. Ellison was right about Jefferson. He was a "visionary" wise enough to read and learn about the enemy from their own Muslim book of jihad.

.


This Muslim problem is not new. It is not anything America or the West has done. It is ALL ISLAM. ISLAM is the PROBLEM. It is written in their book of lies. Very clear to see: Muslims are pigs, who believe in death and force. The only way to stop them is to kill every single one of them. Thomas Jefferson was right, the medium of war was the only way to put and end to the Muslim problem.



.

 

[Jack Fate]

Islam is an evil, repressive, bigoted religion. The world would be a safer, more peaceful place without it.

 

[Coyote]

“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur’an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth”

--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998

Pedestrian Infidel: Axis of Islam: Verses of Hate

Looks like Omar will butt heads with Gary then....

So let us be blunt about it: We must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will be get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God. -- Gary North, 1982

The problem seems to me to be CAIR. CAIR speaks for mainstream muslims in the USA. Where is Gary North today? He sure didn't speak for mainstream Christians.

CAIR is an organization with many people. You are using one person's somewhat distorted statement out of context and claiming it represents CAIR and mainstream Muslims.

North is one person. He speaks for a surprising number of people but I won't claim he speaks for "mainstream" Christianity but he certainly represents the views of a significant number of people.

 

[Coyote]

Islam is an evil, repressive, bigoted religion. The world would be a safer, more peaceful place without it.

Why not simply delete all religions and start all over?

 

[Coyote]

Radical Islam needs to be eliminated worldwide. Radical Islam is and always has been about evil, murder, destruction, fear, enslavement, and war:

Ask Thomas Jefferson, as I posted earlier.

What Thomas Jefferson learned
from the Muslim book of jihad
By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
January 2007

Democrat Keith Ellison is now officially the first Muslim United States congressman. True to his pledge, he placed his hand on the Quran, the Muslim book of jihad and pledged his allegiance to the United States during his ceremonial swearing-in.

Capitol Hill staff said Ellison's swearing-in photo opportunity drew more media than they had ever seen in the history of the U.S. House. Ellison represents the 5th Congressional District of Minnesota.

The Quran Ellison used was no ordinary book. It once belonged to Thomas Jefferson, third president of the United States and one of America's founding fathers. Ellison borrowed it from the Rare Book Section of the Library of Congress. It was one of the 6,500 Jefferson books archived in the library.

Ellison, who was born in Detroit and converted to Islam while in college, said he chose to use Jefferson's Quran because it showed that "a visionary like Jefferson" believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources.

There is no doubt Ellison was right about Jefferson believing wisdom could be "gleaned" from the Muslim Quran. At the time Jefferson owned the book, he needed to know everything possible about Muslims because he was about to advocate war against the Islamic "Barbary" states of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli.

Ellison's use of Jefferson's Quran as a prop illuminates a subject once well-known in the history of the United States, but, which today, is mostly forgotten - the Muslim pirate slavers who over many centuries enslaved millions of Africans and tens of thousands of Christian Europeans and Americans in the Islamic "Barbary" states.

Over the course of 10 centuries, Muslim pirates cruised the African and Mediterranean coastline, pillaging villages and seizing slaves.

The taking of slaves in pre-dawn raids on unsuspecting coastal villages had a high casualty rate. It was typical of Muslim raiders to kill off as many of the "non-Muslim" older men and women as possible so the preferred "booty" of only young women and children could be collected.

Young non-Muslim women were targeted because of their value as concubines in Islamic markets. Islamic law provides for the sexual interests of Muslim men by allowing them to take as many as four wives at one time and to have as many concubines as their fortunes allow.

Boys, as young as 9 or 10 years old, were often mutilated to create eunuchs who would bring higher prices in the slave markets of the Middle East. Muslim slave traders created "eunuch stations" along major African slave routes so the necessary surgery could be performed. It was estimated that only a small number of the boys subjected to the mutilation survived after the surgery.

When American colonists rebelled against British rule in 1776, American merchant ships lost Royal Navy protection. With no American Navy for protection, American ships were attacked and their Christian crews enslaved by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the "Dey of Algiers"--an Islamist warlord ruling Algeria.

Because American commerce in the Mediterranean was being destroyed by the pirates, the Continental Congress agreed in 1784 to negotiate treaties with the four Barbary States. Congress appointed a special commission consisting of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin, to oversee the negotiations.

Lacking the ability to protect its merchant ships in the Mediterranean, the new America government tried to appease the Muslim slavers by agreeing to pay tribute and ransoms in order to retrieve seized American ships and buy the freedom of enslaved sailors.

Adams argued in favor of paying tribute as the cheapest way to get American commerce in the Mediterranean moving again. Jefferson was opposed. He believed there would be no end to the demands for tribute and wanted matters settled "through the medium of war." He proposed a league of trading nations to force an end to Muslim piracy.

In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and Adams, then the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the "Dey of Algiers" ambassador to Britain.

The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress' vote to appease.

During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."

For the following 15 years, the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to 20 percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800.

Not long after Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, he dispatched a group of frigates to defend American interests in the Mediterranean, and informed Congress.

Declaring that America was going to spend "millions for defense but not one cent for tribute," Jefferson pressed the issue by deploying American Marines and many of America's best warships to the Muslim Barbary Coast.

The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, USS Philadelphia, USS Chesapeake, USS Argus, USS Syren and USS Intrepid all saw action.

In 1805, American Marines marched across the desert from Egypt into Tripolitania, forcing the surrender of Tripoli and the freeing of all American slaves.

During the Jefferson administration, the Muslim Barbary States, crumbling as a result of intense American naval bombardment and on shore raids by Marines, finally officially agreed to abandon slavery and piracy.

Jefferson's victory over the Muslims lives on today in the Marine Hymn, with the line, "From the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli, We fight our country's battles in the air, on land and sea."

It wasn't until 1815 that the problem was fully settled by the total defeat of all the Muslim slave trading pirates.

Jefferson had been right. The "medium of war" was the only way to put and end to the Muslim problem. Mr. Ellison was right about Jefferson. He was a "visionary" wise enough to read and learn about the enemy from their own Muslim book of jihad.

.


This Muslim problem is not new. It is not anything America or the West has done. It is ALL ISLAM. ISLAM is the PROBLEM. It is written in their book of lies. Very clear to see: Muslims are pigs, who believe in death and force. The only way to stop them is to kill every single one of them. Thomas Jefferson was right, the medium of war was the only way to put and end to the Muslim problem.



.

It's the 21st century now....just in case you hadn't noticed....

 

[Shogun]

Islam is an evil, repressive, bigoted religion. The world would be a safer, more peaceful place without it.

funny, I feel the same way about christianity. So, let's not stop with your line in the sand and go ahead and genocide more than those on your shit list. All of a sudden you are not so quick to condemn, right?

 

[Biggles]

Radical Islam needs to be eliminated worldwide. Radical Islam is and always has been about evil, murder, destruction, fear, enslavement, and war:

Ask Thomas Jefferson, as I posted earlier.

What Thomas Jefferson learned
from the Muslim book of jihad
By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
January 2007

Democrat Keith Ellison is now officially the first Muslim United States congressman. True to his pledge, he placed his hand on the Quran, the Muslim book of jihad and pledged his allegiance to the United States during his ceremonial swearing-in.

Capitol Hill staff said Ellison's swearing-in photo opportunity drew more media than they had ever seen in the history of the U.S. House. Ellison represents the 5th Congressional District of Minnesota.

The Quran Ellison used was no ordinary book. It once belonged to Thomas Jefferson, third president of the United States and one of America's founding fathers. Ellison borrowed it from the Rare Book Section of the Library of Congress. It was one of the 6,500 Jefferson books archived in the library.

Ellison, who was born in Detroit and converted to Islam while in college, said he chose to use Jefferson's Quran because it showed that "a visionary like Jefferson" believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources.

There is no doubt Ellison was right about Jefferson believing wisdom could be "gleaned" from the Muslim Quran. At the time Jefferson owned the book, he needed to know everything possible about Muslims because he was about to advocate war against the Islamic "Barbary" states of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli.

Ellison's use of Jefferson's Quran as a prop illuminates a subject once well-known in the history of the United States, but, which today, is mostly forgotten - the Muslim pirate slavers who over many centuries enslaved millions of Africans and tens of thousands of Christian Europeans and Americans in the Islamic "Barbary" states.

Over the course of 10 centuries, Muslim pirates cruised the African and Mediterranean coastline, pillaging villages and seizing slaves.

The taking of slaves in pre-dawn raids on unsuspecting coastal villages had a high casualty rate. It was typical of Muslim raiders to kill off as many of the "non-Muslim" older men and women as possible so the preferred "booty" of only young women and children could be collected.

Young non-Muslim women were targeted because of their value as concubines in Islamic markets. Islamic law provides for the sexual interests of Muslim men by allowing them to take as many as four wives at one time and to have as many concubines as their fortunes allow.

Boys, as young as 9 or 10 years old, were often mutilated to create eunuchs who would bring higher prices in the slave markets of the Middle East. Muslim slave traders created "eunuch stations" along major African slave routes so the necessary surgery could be performed. It was estimated that only a small number of the boys subjected to the mutilation survived after the surgery.

When American colonists rebelled against British rule in 1776, American merchant ships lost Royal Navy protection. With no American Navy for protection, American ships were attacked and their Christian crews enslaved by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the "Dey of Algiers"--an Islamist warlord ruling Algeria.

Because American commerce in the Mediterranean was being destroyed by the pirates, the Continental Congress agreed in 1784 to negotiate treaties with the four Barbary States. Congress appointed a special commission consisting of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin, to oversee the negotiations.

Lacking the ability to protect its merchant ships in the Mediterranean, the new America government tried to appease the Muslim slavers by agreeing to pay tribute and ransoms in order to retrieve seized American ships and buy the freedom of enslaved sailors.

Adams argued in favor of paying tribute as the cheapest way to get American commerce in the Mediterranean moving again. Jefferson was opposed. He believed there would be no end to the demands for tribute and wanted matters settled "through the medium of war." He proposed a league of trading nations to force an end to Muslim piracy.

In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and Adams, then the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the "Dey of Algiers" ambassador to Britain.

The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress' vote to appease.

During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."

For the following 15 years, the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to 20 percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800.

Not long after Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, he dispatched a group of frigates to defend American interests in the Mediterranean, and informed Congress.

Declaring that America was going to spend "millions for defense but not one cent for tribute," Jefferson pressed the issue by deploying American Marines and many of America's best warships to the Muslim Barbary Coast.

The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, USS Philadelphia, USS Chesapeake, USS Argus, USS Syren and USS Intrepid all saw action.

In 1805, American Marines marched across the desert from Egypt into Tripolitania, forcing the surrender of Tripoli and the freeing of all American slaves.

During the Jefferson administration, the Muslim Barbary States, crumbling as a result of intense American naval bombardment and on shore raids by Marines, finally officially agreed to abandon slavery and piracy.

Jefferson's victory over the Muslims lives on today in the Marine Hymn, with the line, "From the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli, We fight our country's battles in the air, on land and sea."

It wasn't until 1815 that the problem was fully settled by the total defeat of all the Muslim slave trading pirates.

Jefferson had been right. The "medium of war" was the only way to put and end to the Muslim problem. Mr. Ellison was right about Jefferson. He was a "visionary" wise enough to read and learn about the enemy from their own Muslim book of jihad.

.


This Muslim problem is not new. It is not anything America or the West has done. It is ALL ISLAM. ISLAM is the PROBLEM. It is written in their book of lies. Very clear to see: Muslims are pigs, who believe in death and force. The only way to stop them is to kill every single one of them. Thomas Jefferson was right, the medium of war was the only way to put and end to the Muslim problem.



.

It's the 21st century now....just in case you hadn't noticed....

Your point? Muslims seem to be raping, killing, mutilating, destroying, enslaving, just like it was 1799. They are still barbaric pigs.

They have no place in this world. They have no love or peace in their religion whatsoever. Even Muslims point out that their book instructs them to murder, enslave, destroy, lie (see in my original post).

So again, your point?

 

[Biggles]

Islam is an evil, repressive, bigoted religion. The world would be a safer, more peaceful place without it.

funny, I feel the same way about christianity. So, let's not stop with your line in the sand and go ahead and genocide more than those on your shit list. All of a sudden you are not so quick to condemn, right?

I am a Christian. The Bible and God and Jesus teach love and peace. I believe in tolerance and rights. But I will not stand by silently and watch Muslims do the evil they do. I will speak out against Islam until it is gone from this Earth. I will support any and all eradication efforts. Islam is pure evil.

You obviously have no understanding of Christianity.

 

[Jack Fate]

Islam is an evil, repressive, bigoted religion. The world would be a safer, more peaceful place without it.

funny, I feel the same way about christianity. So, let's not stop with your line in the sand and go ahead and genocide more than those on your shit list. All of a sudden you are not so quick to condemn, right?

I"m not talking about how you "feel". I don't care how you "feel".

I'm talking about the religion of Islam. There is no comparison to Christianity. Islam is an evil racist religion. Christianity is not. Compare the religions, not the oddballs or nuts.

 

[Shogun]

Islam is an evil, repressive, bigoted religion. The world would be a safer, more peaceful place without it.

funny, I feel the same way about christianity. So, let's not stop with your line in the sand and go ahead and genocide more than those on your shit list. All of a sudden you are not so quick to condemn, right?

I"m not talking about how you "feel". I don't care how you "feel".

I'm talking about the religion of Islam. There is no comparison to Christianity. Islam is an evil racist religion. Christianity is not. Compare the religions, not the oddballs or nuts.

Such may be your opinion but, as we've seen time and again throughout history, you are about as full of shit as you are self-righteousness. So, again, fuck you just as quick as you can say fuck them and you can all be dumped to the bottom of the sea.

 

[Biggles]

funny, I feel the same way about christianity. So, let's not stop with your line in the sand and go ahead and genocide more than those on your shit list. All of a sudden you are not so quick to condemn, right?

I"m not talking about how you "feel". I don't care how you "feel".

I'm talking about the religion of Islam. There is no comparison to Christianity. Islam is an evil racist religion. Christianity is not. Compare the religions, not the oddballs or nuts.

Such may be your opinion but, as we've seen time and again throughout history, you are about as full of shit as you are self-righteousness. So, again, fuck you just as quick as you can say fuck them and you can all be dumped to the bottom of the sea.

I guess you could not find any logical response so you resorted to what most liberals do: cursing and name calling. Point is, Islam still is crap evil. Point is, Christianity is love.