Rand Paul Calls For A New GOP

[Ava]

Rand Pauls GOP would never win an election

Of course it is too early to tell, but so far, I am invigorated by all the speakers at CPAC 2013, and wish to support them in any way.

 

[Contumacious]

The fun part would be replacing "drones" with "guns".

And watching the hootin and hollerin.

Common sense tells you that there are circumstances where people break laws and refuse to submit to law enforcement officials that justify the use of guns to stop their criminal activities.

Why is it that that Obama arms Libyan and Syrian insurgents to fight against their own government but we have no right to protect ourselves against ours?!?!?!?!?

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Are you being targeted by a drone, and if you don't know, what rationally deduced fact leads you to think you are being targeted. (though quite probably our comments to each other are being randomly sampled.)

HUH?

WTF?

If ANY American is being targeted , then all Americans are being targeted.

None of that divide and conquer bullshit.

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[emptystep]

Rand Pauls GOP would never win an election

Of course it is too early to tell, but so far, I am invigorated by all the speakers at CPAC 2013, and wish to support them in any way.

Even Trump?

 

[Dot Com]

Why is it that that Obama arms Libyan and Syrian insurgents to fight against their own government but we have no right to protect ourselves against ours?!?!?!?!?

.

.

Are you being targeted by a drone, and if you don't know, what rationally deduced fact leads you to think you are being targeted. (though quite probably our comments to each other are being randomly sampled.)

HUH?

WTF?

If ANY American is being targeted , then all Americans are being targeted.

None of that divide and conquer bullshit.

.

like "you're either with us or you're with the terrists"?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpPABLW6F_A]Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Contumacious]

are you being targeted by a drone, and if you don't know, what rationally deduced fact leads you to think you are being targeted. (though quite probably our comments to each other are being randomly sampled.)

huh?

Wtf?

If any american is being targeted , then all americans are being targeted.

None of that divide and conquer bullshit.

.

like "you're either with us or you're with the terrists"?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cppablw6f_a]either you are with us or you are with the terrorists - youtube[/ame]

huh?

Wtf?

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[Flopper]

Despite the neoconservatives’ beliefs, the Republican Party works exclusively for Big Business and the one percent. Except for the economically moot issues of being anti-choice, pro-gun, and convincing the Christian right that God speaks to the GOP, the chief focus of Republicans holding office is to protect the profits the very rich and find ways to make these profits grow.

For some reason Rand Paul believes the Republican Party must reinvent itself, and to do this they must connect with the Facebook generation. Paul wants the GOP to lead the fight in decriminalizing drug use, which is something Christian faith could not allow. Also, poor, naive Rand wants the GOP to go into the inner cities and shout at the top of their lungs "we are the party of jobs and opportunity. The GOP is the ticket to the middle class."

To Paul this all sounds great, but to the rank and file neoconservative voters it smacks of affirmative action and liberalism.

It would be a questionable boon to the GOP if they could convince minorities it was true, but given their devotion to Big Business and the super rich, the Republicans could never deliver the jobs, the opportunities, or the ticket to the middle class. This inability of the GOP would be exposed immediately after their first win helped by minorities who briefly believed in the empty Republican promises.

Add to the perception that the GOP was embracing affirmative action, by decriminalizing of drugs, far more neocon voters would join the Tea Party than minority voters would turn their support to the Republicans. This shows Rand Paul’s idea to be the folly it is.

The many, many misconceptions conservatives and neoconservatives hold for minorities has them believing are all stupid, unskilled, and lazy. This unchangeable mindset will work against the Republicans, because any overtures to these groups by the GOP will be patently insincere.

Presently, the Democrats are able to exploit the poor, the disabled, the elderly, and some disabled veterans by keeping entitlements in place that allow these groups to maintain a meager but tentative level of life. But the Democratic Party is nothing more than a coalition of factions, the Blue Dogs that are just GOP lite, the centrists, the liberal, and extreme liberals. These groups, although identifying themselves as Democrats, actually agree on very few issues. However, when the Republicans are in power, they can usually count on the Blue Dogs and the centrists to vote for most Republican bills, and against any proposed by their more liberal Congressional brethren.

Boehner and McConnell need only maintain the G”NO”P obstructionism until 2014, and by then the voters will be convinced it is time for a change. They will have forgotten why the country has been in a recession for over six years, and they won’t remember how the debt rose to such levels. With their victory in 2014, the Republicans will set the stage for a resounding comeback in 2016.

They will have the sound majority in Congress with the Blue Dog and centrist Democrats rubberstamping all Republican sponsored legislation. It will be a repeat of the Bush/Cheney years.

There are powerful individuals at the very top of the one percent that, for many years, have called the shots from behind the scenes. They command the Republican Party, and most other politicians, to do what they are paid to do, which is to look out for the best interests of the very rich. This means Rand Paul’s plan is out of the question and the same tired and destructive agenda of Reaganomics the Republican Party has pressed for the past thirty-plus years will stay in place.

However, to maintain voter distraction, the Republican Party, at all levels, must go ahead with their anti-choice, anti-labor, pro-gun movements, and the crusade to get Christian prayer back into government offices and the public school system. With these noisemaking issues keeping what is truly important out of the public eye, the main focus can remain on deregulation, tax cuts, increased defense spending, and the elimination of costly entitlement programs. These are the core issues that keep the neocons voting against their own economic interests, and will allow the conservatives in both parties to keep the income gap widening, the middle class shrinking, and the nation's debt growing.



Sen. Rand Paul calls for new Republican Party - MarketWatch

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Sorry to bust Rand Paul's bubble but we have people that want to decriminalizing drug use, embraces affirmative action, are pro-choice, and who fight for the workers. They're called Democrats.

 

[Contumacious]

Despite the neoconservatives’ beliefs, the Republican Party works exclusively for Big Business and the one percent. Except for the economically moot issues of being anti-choice, pro-gun, and convincing the Christian right that God speaks to the GOP, the chief focus of Republicans holding office is to protect the profits the very rich and find ways to make these profits grow.

For some reason Rand Paul believes the Republican Party must reinvent itself, and to do this they must connect with the Facebook generation. Paul wants the GOP to lead the fight in decriminalizing drug use, which is something Christian faith could not allow. Also, poor, naive Rand wants the GOP to go into the inner cities and shout at the top of their lungs "we are the party of jobs and opportunity. The GOP is the ticket to the middle class."

To Paul this all sounds great, but to the rank and file neoconservative voters it smacks of affirmative action and liberalism.

It would be a questionable boon to the GOP if they could convince minorities it was true, but given their devotion to Big Business and the super rich, the Republicans could never deliver the jobs, the opportunities, or the ticket to the middle class. This inability of the GOP would be exposed immediately after their first win helped by minorities who briefly believed in the empty Republican promises.

Add to the perception that the GOP was embracing affirmative action, by decriminalizing of drugs, far more neocon voters would join the Tea Party than minority voters would turn their support to the Republicans. This shows Rand Paul’s idea to be the folly it is.

The many, many misconceptions conservatives and neoconservatives hold for minorities has them believing are all stupid, unskilled, and lazy. This unchangeable mindset will work against the Republicans, because any overtures to these groups by the GOP will be patently insincere.

Presently, the Democrats are able to exploit the poor, the disabled, the elderly, and some disabled veterans by keeping entitlements in place that allow these groups to maintain a meager but tentative level of life. But the Democratic Party is nothing more than a coalition of factions, the Blue Dogs that are just GOP lite, the centrists, the liberal, and extreme liberals. These groups, although identifying themselves as Democrats, actually agree on very few issues. However, when the Republicans are in power, they can usually count on the Blue Dogs and the centrists to vote for most Republican bills, and against any proposed by their more liberal Congressional brethren.

Boehner and McConnell need only maintain the G”NO”P obstructionism until 2014, and by then the voters will be convinced it is time for a change. They will have forgotten why the country has been in a recession for over six years, and they won’t remember how the debt rose to such levels. With their victory in 2014, the Republicans will set the stage for a resounding comeback in 2016.

They will have the sound majority in Congress with the Blue Dog and centrist Democrats rubberstamping all Republican sponsored legislation. It will be a repeat of the Bush/Cheney years.

There are powerful individuals at the very top of the one percent that, for many years, have called the shots from behind the scenes. They command the Republican Party, and most other politicians, to do what they are paid to do, which is to look out for the best interests of the very rich. This means Rand Paul’s plan is out of the question and the same tired and destructive agenda of Reaganomics the Republican Party has pressed for the past thirty-plus years will stay in place.

However, to maintain voter distraction, the Republican Party, at all levels, must go ahead with their anti-choice, anti-labor, pro-gun movements, and the crusade to get Christian prayer back into government offices and the public school system. With these noisemaking issues keeping what is truly important out of the public eye, the main focus can remain on deregulation, tax cuts, increased defense spending, and the elimination of costly entitlement programs. These are the core issues that keep the neocons voting against their own economic interests, and will allow the conservatives in both parties to keep the income gap widening, the middle class shrinking, and the nation's debt growing.



Sen. Rand Paul calls for new Republican Party - MarketWatch

.

Sorry to bust Rand Paul's bubble but we have people that want to decriminalizing drug use, embraces affirmative action, are pro-choice, and who fight the workers. They're called Democrats.

Sorry to burst you bubble, but we have people that want to decriminalize drug use, support individual rights , the US Constitution and freedom across the board . They're called Libertarians.

.

 

[Avorysuds]

If Paul runs he will prolly be President. Paul will pull Democrats and independents and heading into the primaries he will have an easy 30% support day 1 that would be near impossible to take from. Money will be easy for Rand to gain as well.

Leave it to progressives to be upset that the Republican party might change for the better. I see it as Progressives are upset because the Libertarian ideas represent the majority of Americans, bring that message under the Republican banner and you destroy the fake Democrat message.

 

[Avorysuds]

Despite the neoconservatives’ beliefs, the Republican Party works exclusively for Big Business and the one percent. Except for the economically moot issues of being anti-choice, pro-gun, and convincing the Christian right that God speaks to the GOP, the chief focus of Republicans holding office is to protect the profits the very rich and find ways to make these profits grow.

For some reason Rand Paul believes the Republican Party must reinvent itself, and to do this they must connect with the Facebook generation. Paul wants the GOP to lead the fight in decriminalizing drug use, which is something Christian faith could not allow. Also, poor, naive Rand wants the GOP to go into the inner cities and shout at the top of their lungs "we are the party of jobs and opportunity. The GOP is the ticket to the middle class."

To Paul this all sounds great, but to the rank and file neoconservative voters it smacks of affirmative action and liberalism.

It would be a questionable boon to the GOP if they could convince minorities it was true, but given their devotion to Big Business and the super rich, the Republicans could never deliver the jobs, the opportunities, or the ticket to the middle class. This inability of the GOP would be exposed immediately after their first win helped by minorities who briefly believed in the empty Republican promises.

Add to the perception that the GOP was embracing affirmative action, by decriminalizing of drugs, far more neocon voters would join the Tea Party than minority voters would turn their support to the Republicans. This shows Rand Paul’s idea to be the folly it is.

The many, many misconceptions conservatives and neoconservatives hold for minorities has them believing are all stupid, unskilled, and lazy. This unchangeable mindset will work against the Republicans, because any overtures to these groups by the GOP will be patently insincere.

Presently, the Democrats are able to exploit the poor, the disabled, the elderly, and some disabled veterans by keeping entitlements in place that allow these groups to maintain a meager but tentative level of life. But the Democratic Party is nothing more than a coalition of factions, the Blue Dogs that are just GOP lite, the centrists, the liberal, and extreme liberals. These groups, although identifying themselves as Democrats, actually agree on very few issues. However, when the Republicans are in power, they can usually count on the Blue Dogs and the centrists to vote for most Republican bills, and against any proposed by their more liberal Congressional brethren.

Boehner and McConnell need only maintain the G”NO”P obstructionism until 2014, and by then the voters will be convinced it is time for a change. They will have forgotten why the country has been in a recession for over six years, and they won’t remember how the debt rose to such levels. With their victory in 2014, the Republicans will set the stage for a resounding comeback in 2016.

They will have the sound majority in Congress with the Blue Dog and centrist Democrats rubberstamping all Republican sponsored legislation. It will be a repeat of the Bush/Cheney years.

There are powerful individuals at the very top of the one percent that, for many years, have called the shots from behind the scenes. They command the Republican Party, and most other politicians, to do what they are paid to do, which is to look out for the best interests of the very rich. This means Rand Paul’s plan is out of the question and the same tired and destructive agenda of Reaganomics the Republican Party has pressed for the past thirty-plus years will stay in place.

However, to maintain voter distraction, the Republican Party, at all levels, must go ahead with their anti-choice, anti-labor, pro-gun movements, and the crusade to get Christian prayer back into government offices and the public school system. With these noisemaking issues keeping what is truly important out of the public eye, the main focus can remain on deregulation, tax cuts, increased defense spending, and the elimination of costly entitlement programs. These are the core issues that keep the neocons voting against their own economic interests, and will allow the conservatives in both parties to keep the income gap widening, the middle class shrinking, and the nation's debt growing.



Sen. Rand Paul calls for new Republican Party - MarketWatch

.

Sorry to bust Rand Paul's bubble but we have people that want to decriminalizing drug use, embraces affirmative action, are pro-choice, and who fight the workers. They're called Democrats.

Sorry to burst you bubble, but we have people that want to decriminalize drug use, support individual rights , the US Constitution and freedom across the board . They're called Libertarians.

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LOL, it's funny to see someone post that Democrats want to control what people can and can't do based on sex, gender and race, then claim that's what Rand was talking about. The Democratic party has fallen so far and their not even aware.

 

[Flopper]

If Paul runs he will prolly be President. Paul will pull Democrats and independents and heading into the primaries he will have an easy 30% support day 1 that would be near impossible to take from. Money will be easy for Rand to gain as well.

Leave it to progressives to be upset that the Republican party might change for the better. I see it as Progressives are upset because the Libertarian ideas represent the majority of Americans, bring that message under the Republican banner and you destroy the fake Democrat message.

To pull Democrat votes, he's going have to swing pretty far to the left without giving up his base support. I don't think he is enough of a centralist to pull that off.

 

[Avorysuds]

If Paul runs he will prolly be President. Paul will pull Democrats and independents and heading into the primaries he will have an easy 30% support day 1 that would be near impossible to take from. Money will be easy for Rand to gain as well.

Leave it to progressives to be upset that the Republican party might change for the better. I see it as Progressives are upset because the Libertarian ideas represent the majority of Americans, bring that message under the Republican banner and you destroy the fake Democrat message.

To pull Democrat votes, he's going have to swing pretty far to the left without giving up his base support. I don't think he is enough of a centralist to pull that off.

You don't know Rands positions very well if you think he needs to swing to the left. The problem is the left according to you is as you described, affirmative action, telling who can marry who and other nazi crap like that. Paul's position that will attract the left is his stance on foreign policy, something Obama and the DNC have left their party out in the cold on. Rand will also be social liberal in many areas that both the left and the right can accept, like being against Obama's expansion of the patriot act with the NDAA, for the second amendment, leaving marriage as a privet matter, not over spending.... And Rand has the policies and votes to back it up, Obama only had words and he switched his position once he became President, just like Bush did.


What you're not seeing is that while there is a large movement in the Republican party to change the Democratic party is headed the way of the Republican party under Bush. Obama lost 4 million voters in 2012, that has never happened to Dems before.

You fear Rand because he represents many of the important things you used to claim to be. Now you're the run of the mill war loving Progressive Neocon.

 

[nodoginnafight]

The GOP wants a new GOP - one without Paul.

 

[Avorysuds]

The GOP wants a new GOP - one without Paul.

The GOP leaderships wants Paul gone, but there is a good chance the GOP will be 100% behind Rand in 2016 if he runs. Again, if Rand enters the primaries he will have 30%+ support day one, that's almost impossible to beat. And remember, Rand got behind Mitt, he's playing the GOP's own game.

 

[nodoginnafight]

The GOP wants a new GOP - one without Paul.

The GOP leaderships wants Paul gone, but there is a good chance the GOP will be 100% behind Rand in 2016 if he runs. Again, if Rand enters the primaries he will have 30%+ support day one, that's almost impossible to beat. And remember, Rand got behind Mitt, he's playing the GOP's own game.

Say no more.
Anyone who claims 100% support from ANY group larger than two people is deluded or intentionally deceptive.

Either way - I don't really need to hear anymore.

 

[Avorysuds]

The GOP wants a new GOP - one without Paul.

The GOP leaderships wants Paul gone, but there is a good chance the GOP will be 100% behind Rand in 2016 if he runs. Again, if Rand enters the primaries he will have 30%+ support day one, that's almost impossible to beat. And remember, Rand got behind Mitt, he's playing the GOP's own game.

Say no more.
Anyone who claims 100% support from ANY group larger than two people is deluded or intentionally deceptive.

Either way - I don't really need to hear anymore.

The GOP you fuckin retard, the leadership, not the entire voter base...

 

[Contumacious]

If Paul runs he will prolly be President. Paul will pull Democrats and independents and heading into the primaries he will have an easy 30% support day 1 that would be near impossible to take from. Money will be easy for Rand to gain as well.

Leave it to progressives to be upset that the Republican party might change for the better. I see it as Progressives are upset because the Libertarian ideas represent the majority of Americans, bring that message under the Republican banner and you destroy the fake Democrat message.

To pull Democrat votes, he's going have to swing pretty far to the left without giving up his base support. I don't think he is enough of a centralist to pull that off.

HUH?

WTF?

Why is supporting freedom across the board a leftist cause?

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[nodoginnafight]

The GOP leaderships wants Paul gone, but there is a good chance the GOP will be 100% behind Rand in 2016 if he runs. Again, if Rand enters the primaries he will have 30%+ support day one, that's almost impossible to beat. And remember, Rand got behind Mitt, he's playing the GOP's own game.

Say no more.
Anyone who claims 100% support from ANY group larger than two people is deluded or intentionally deceptive.

Either way - I don't really need to hear anymore.

The GOP you fuckin retard, the leadership, not the entire voter base...

more than two people ?????

Vulgar namecalling .... seriosly .... is that what you got?

Then you really don't have much other than a big and vulgar mouth now do you?

 

[Borillar]

It is amazing that Rand Paul could view the results of the last election and conclude that the reason Republicans lost is because they are not more like him

Not really.

Up until getting into congress..he wanted to roll back civil rights as it pertained to private industry. And at the Benghazi Hearings he asked about arms shipments through Turkey, an issue that outside of conservative blogs, had no legs.

And although his holding the floor during a filibuster was admirable..the content of what he was saying was ridiculous.

Yes, indeed it was.

Preventing the President from using drones to murder Americans in US Soil is no longer a civil rights - constitutional issue.


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As if that was a real issue to begin with. So what's next then? Legislation preventing the President from using death rays from the secret moon base?

 

[Bfgrn]

I'd like the OLD GOP back, personally.

Yup.

But I don't think they can get there from here.

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I don't know if the Democrats could get there either. They are to the right of Ike's GOP.

 

[Avorysuds]

Say no more.
Anyone who claims 100% support from ANY group larger than two people is deluded or intentionally deceptive.

Either way - I don't really need to hear anymore.

The GOP you fuckin retard, the leadership, not the entire voter base...

more than two people ?????

Vulgar namecalling .... seriosly .... is that what you got?

Then you really don't have much other than a big and vulgar mouth now do you?

What you said makes no sense. Obama had more support than 2 people for a group... Hell, every person on the planet does at some point.