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created equal does not mean that one has the right to stay financially equal with eternal welfare entitlements.
I know Michael Weiner incorrectly stated that "Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder", but what's the excuse of these wrong wingers truncating my posts and then trying to imply or outright misrepresent what I have said?
Where have I EVER stated that ' one has the right to stay financially equal with eternal welfare entitlements.'?
cut the BS please. If you have one substantive thing to say in support of liberalism why be so afraid to state it???
Ok, you got me......................
I am committed to honoring the promises made to seniors and will protect Medicare and Social Security for both todays and tomorrows seniors.
Without reforms to preserve and strengthen Medicare and Social Security, these programs will not exist for future generations.
Is that better?
that all men are created equal
created equal does not mean that one has the right to stay financially equal with eternal welfare entitlements.
Ok, you got me......................
see how easy it is??
I am committed to honoring the promises made to seniors and will protect Medicare and Social Security for both todays and tomorrows seniors.
too stupid!! Social Security is theft of 13% of the nations income. If that money was put in private Republican accounts all Americans could retire rich instead on the dog food money that is left now.
Medicare is an idiotic socialist scheme. If it was any good why not follow the soviet model and deliver all goods and services that way?
NOw do see why the liberals spied for Stalin? And why BO had 2 communist parents and voted to the left of Bernie Sanders?
Promises?? you want to honor stupid liberal promises to everyone even when we are $16 trillion in debt? and the promises should not be kept because the welfare programs cripple those who use them and are sovietly inefficient!!
Without reforms to preserve and strengthen Medicare and Social Security, these programs will not exist for future generations.
Is that better?
you want liberal welfare programs for future generations? Why not private accounts so Americans can be rich and independent rather than hopeless impoverished welfare recipients.
Why not move to Cuba where they keep their welfare promises, sort of.
You are the lying sack of shit, show me ONE quote from me where I stated that I wanted 'YOU want Equality of OUTCOME...Government choosing WINNERS AND LOSERS.'. Thanks for the neg rep you JOKE.
It's funny to see how some lying psychos react and get all spastic when they are exposed to the truth. Thanks for the laugh................ASSHOLE.
Friendly well-meaning suggestion from an innocent bystander PhoenixOps.. FIRST you define and RECLAIM the title of Liberal --- THEN you defend the principles.. Problem here is --- if you ARE a true Liberal -- you'd be siding more with the people hating on you and spending less time defending the indefensible positions of the Progressive Class Warriors and Big Government fans..
A REAL Liberal wouldn't be enjoying beating up on the limited govt people like you SEEM to be..
Why would I be siding with fake, phoney, frauds who talk one way but really support people who advocate their type of big government. Why would I side with people who lie and make blanket generalizations about groups of people? Why would I side with assholes, who misrepresent and LIE about my posts as well as try to put words in my mouth that I never said?
What 'indefensible positions of the Progressive Class Warriors and Big Government fans.' do I allegedly defend?
Who are these so-called 'Limited Government' people? The ones who are voting for Mitt (big government)Romney instead of Ron Paul or Gary Johnson? The ones who call the two aforementioned people demeaning names? The bigots who keep referring to 'Blacks as being on a fucking plantation'? The bigots who keep stating that 'Blacks only vote democrat because they want handouts and depend on government'? Why would I side with those assholes?
There are plenty of 'limited government' people who don't represent themselves like the asshole mentioned above do. We get along just fine. There are plenty of people who disagree with me in a classy manner instead of acting like a psychopath with emotional problems, who I get along with just fine. I treat them accordingly.
Where does it get the money, asshole?
How does that restrict your freedom?
Money isn't freedom. It's money.
If anything, the m ore you have, the less freedom you have, anyway.
The only question isn't whether we are going to let the poor starve to death or not. All the sane people have agreed we won't let that happen.
The question becomes who should pay for it.
I vote for the rich assholes.
Money is property.... It's a Fourth Amendment violation for the government to steal money....
I vote for the rich assholes.
why should the rich pay when being rich means that they have already served humanity? Who's done more good Steve Jobs or a poor ghetto liberal?
The rich like Jobs got us from the stone age to here with their inventions while ghetto liberals are merely free riders.
You are a prime example of what I was referring to in my last post! Thank you!!! Where have I ever said that I believe in 'equality of outcomes'? I asked you to back it up with a quote from me, but you like others, simply can't or won't do that. I wonder why?
Do you support Affirmative Action, Welfare , Social Security, Medicaid and Obamacare?
Affirmative Action: Private companies not receiving tax dollars from the public should be able to hire who they want to. Government and companies who receive tax dollars, should hire the best people for the job and be prohibited from discriminating against people because of race, religion, gender, etc.?
Welfare: Should be a hand up, not a handout or vocation. I personally think that the monies should be paid back at as a small loan and at a low percentage of a former recipient's gross income. The recipients need to actively seek employment and have a grace period where they can still receive benefits and have money from employment so they can get ahead and stay ahead. It should not be a cycle and there should be restrictions as to the amount of time someone can be on welfare. The recipients should not be cut off if the spouse moves in, it should follow the guidelines of the above grace period..?
Social Security: The people who have been paying into it, should be able to receive their benefits. There should be an "opt out" option if one wants to fund their own retirement, if they choose the 'opt out' option, they can't go running to government to fund their retirement if it doesn't work out, unless they pay the arrears or amount they would have paid if they were paying it for that duration.
Medicaid: There should be health care for the truly indigent people.
Obamacare: I don't like the mandatory aspect of it.
Civil Liberties: The Bill of Rights is of utmost importance to me. How about you?.
Taxes: Flat tax, why punish success. If we go out for a pizza and split the bill, why should I have to pay more than you because I earn more than you? I think that the 'Fairtax' is stupid because they allegedly want to 'keep government out of the way' but they want people to depend on that prebate check. How about you?
I vote for the rich assholes.
why should the rich pay when being rich means that they have already served humanity? Who's done more good Steve Jobs or a poor ghetto liberal?
The rich like Jobs got us from the stone age to here with their inventions while ghetto liberals are merely free riders.
I don't know, why do you always go for a supposedly "good" rich person like Jobs rather than some of the real assholes.
Of course, Steve Jobs got rich because the actual work of assembling thos I-Phones was done by a "ghetto" person living in China for a pittance. And some of those Chinese are so stressed out they've been killing themselves.
Oh, not to worry, though, Steve used his riches to get himself put at the front of the line for a liver transplant.
The fallacy of the rich is that the rich are a vital organ when they are in fact parasites.
Do you support Affirmative Action, Welfare , Social Security, Medicaid and Obamacare?
Affirmative Action: Private companies not receiving tax dollars from the public should be able to hire who they want to. Government and companies who receive tax dollars, should hire the best people for the job and be prohibited from discriminating against people because of race, religion, gender, etc.?
That's a weasel. It's a simple "yes" or "no" question. Do you support Affirmative Action or not?
Translation: you support welfare.
Translation: you support Social Security.
Translation: you support Medicaid.
If it wasn't mandatory, the legislation would be absolutely pointless.
Translation: you support Obamacare.
Civil Liberties: The Bill of Rights is of utmost importance to me. How about you?.
You weren't asked about civil liberties. Furthermore, civil liberties and the Bill of Rights are two separate issues.
Taxes: Flat tax, why punish success. If we go out for a pizza and split the bill, why should I have to pay more than you because I earn more than you? I think that the 'Fairtax' is stupid because they allegedly want to 'keep government out of the way' but they want people to depend on that prebate check. How about you?
It's 10,000 times better than the Income tax. Furthermore, you weren't asked about the Fair tax.
LOL, maybe you need to re-read what I am responding to and re-read what I write because I definitely state my positions. Definitely a lot more than some of dullards on this forum who give childish insulting responses that are based on their lies and misrepresentations.Friendly well-meaning suggestion from an innocent bystander PhoenixOps.. FIRST you define and RECLAIM the title of Liberal --- THEN you defend the principles.. Problem here is --- if you ARE a true Liberal -- you'd be siding more with the people hating on you and spending less time defending the indefensible positions of the Progressive Class Warriors and Big Government fans..
A REAL Liberal wouldn't be enjoying beating up on the limited govt people like you SEEM to be..
Why would I be siding with fake, phoney, frauds who talk one way but really support people who advocate their type of big government. Why would I side with people who lie and make blanket generalizations about groups of people? Why would I side with assholes, who misrepresent and LIE about my posts as well as try to put words in my mouth that I never said?
What 'indefensible positions of the Progressive Class Warriors and Big Government fans.' do I allegedly defend?
Who are these so-called 'Limited Government' people? The ones who are voting for Mitt (big government)Romney instead of Ron Paul or Gary Johnson? The ones who call the two aforementioned people demeaning names? The bigots who keep referring to 'Blacks as being on a fucking plantation'? The bigots who keep stating that 'Blacks only vote democrat because they want handouts and depend on government'? Why would I side with those assholes?
There are plenty of 'limited government' people who don't represent themselves like the asshole mentioned above do. We get along just fine. There are plenty of people who disagree with me in a classy manner instead of acting like a psychopath with emotional problems, who I get along with just fine. I treat them accordingly.
Where do u defend the indefensible? In the snippet above -- instead of simply correcting the perception that you support EQUAL OUTCOMES -- explain what a true Liberal believes.
Because you confuse me when you go off into a rant because someone is misreading your credentials.
You and me share a common problem (and perhaps fairly close ideologies) on the basics. And that is that 90% of the folks on the board believe in the 2 camp theory. They don't believe that anyone would be taking shots at both sides occasionally..
Look -- I'm not arrogantly playing mod here. I'm just trying to understand if you REALLY believe the stuff in your footer. And I'm seeing you defend crap often that doesn't seem to match -- or you're just caught up the heat of the battle -- carry on.. Ignore the phony amatuer psychologist..
LOL, maybe you need to re-read what I am responding to and re-read what I write because I definitely state my positions. Definitely a lot more than some of dullards on this forum who give childish insulting responses that are based on their lies and misrepresentations.Why would I be siding with fake, phoney, frauds who talk one way but really support people who advocate their type of big government. Why would I side with people who lie and make blanket generalizations about groups of people? Why would I side with assholes, who misrepresent and LIE about my posts as well as try to put words in my mouth that I never said?
What 'indefensible positions of the Progressive Class Warriors and Big Government fans.' do I allegedly defend?
Who are these so-called 'Limited Government' people? The ones who are voting for Mitt (big government)Romney instead of Ron Paul or Gary Johnson? The ones who call the two aforementioned people demeaning names? The bigots who keep referring to 'Blacks as being on a fucking plantation'? The bigots who keep stating that 'Blacks only vote democrat because they want handouts and depend on government'? Why would I side with those assholes?
There are plenty of 'limited government' people who don't represent themselves like the asshole mentioned above do. We get along just fine. There are plenty of people who disagree with me in a classy manner instead of acting like a psychopath with emotional problems, who I get along with just fine. I treat them accordingly.
Where do u defend the indefensible? In the snippet above -- instead of simply correcting the perception that you support EQUAL OUTCOMES -- explain what a true Liberal believes.
Because you confuse me when you go off into a rant because someone is misreading your credentials.
You and me share a common problem (and perhaps fairly close ideologies) on the basics. And that is that 90% of the folks on the board believe in the 2 camp theory. They don't believe that anyone would be taking shots at both sides occasionally..
Look -- I'm not arrogantly playing mod here. I'm just trying to understand if you REALLY believe the stuff in your footer. And I'm seeing you defend crap often that doesn't seem to match -- or you're just caught up the heat of the battle -- carry on.. Ignore the phony amatuer psychologist..
I agree about the "two camp" theory and it definitely blinds people.
Of course I believe the stuff I put in my footer. What are you SPECIFICALLY SEEING that I defend that allegedly doesn't match, what addressing a few assholes that are hypocrites???
You weren't asked about civil liberties. Furthermore, civil liberties and the Bill of Rights are two separate issues.
I don't know, why do you always go for a supposedly "good" rich person like Jobs rather than some of the real assholes.
Of course, Steve Jobs got rich because the actual work of assembling thos I-Phones was done by a "ghetto" person living in China.
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The fallacy of the rich is that the rich are a vital organ when they are in fact parasites.
OH SHIT!!! I didn't provide the proper quotation!!! Here:
"I am committed to honoring the promises made to seniors and will protect Medicare and Social Security for both today’s and tomorrow’s seniors."
OH SHIT!!! I didn't provide the proper quotation!!! Here:
"I am committed to honoring the promises made to seniors and will protect Medicare and Social Security for both todays and tomorrows seniors."
dear, I asserted that liberals are stupid and that it was easy to prove as follows: I asked you, "please say something intelligent in support of liberalism"
you quoted Allen West pretending you were somehow saying something intelligent about liberalism???????? What is wrong with you????.
Why can't you say anything at all intelligent in support of liberalism? What does that tell you about liberalism and your character?
See why we are positive a liberal will have a low IQ?
They've done one thing wrong:why should the rich pay when being rich means that they have already served humanity? Who's done more good Steve Jobs or a poor ghetto liberal?
The rich like Jobs got us from the stone age to here with their inventions while ghetto liberals are merely free riders.
I don't know, why do you always go for a supposedly "good" rich person like Jobs rather than some of the real assholes.
Of course, Steve Jobs got rich because the actual work of assembling thos I-Phones was done by a "ghetto" person living in China for a pittance. And some of those Chinese are so stressed out they've been killing themselves.
Oh, not to worry, though, Steve used his riches to get himself put at the front of the line for a liver transplant.
The fallacy of the rich is that the rich are a vital organ when they are in fact parasites.
Well this is news to me.. Where is the leftist list of the GOOD rich and the BAD rich?
Is Oprah on the BAD list? How about George Soros? Did Justin Bieber make the GOOD list?
You know -- the vast MAJORITY of "the rich" --- the folks you want to HOBBLE -- the folks you call PARASITES --- truth is --- they are entertainers, sports figures, musicians, pop culture divas, writers, artists, and music/tv/film producers, high level doctors, lawyers, other professionals and thousands of hard working entrenprenuers who have done NOTHING wrong..
Don't be upset because you went on that tirade and it turned out that Allen West was the one who stated those things and not me.
Everything I support and stand by is in support of Liberalism, where have you been???
When you speak of a "low IQ" how did someone of an alleged "low IQ" make you look so silly?
You fell for that hook, line, and sinker. Do you feel bad that by supporting Allen West, you now support a 'big government liberal"?
