Remembering 9/11/01: May this country never forget the events of 9/11/01 and pass it on to our kids

[easyt65]

and i'm saying it's pointless to call for unity while you're still dividing people up into groups.

Understood....and you seem to miss the concept that it is critical to publicly identify those who are attempting to advocate and facilitate division, who are spreading hate. Unification behind a common enemy was seen on 9/12/01. Today snowflakes and Democrats are rallying around and attempting to defend the hate-mongers, anti-Semites, and terrorist-supporters, even those who have attempted to undermine/overthrow this government for the last 4 years based on lies / false narratives.

It is critical to call for unity while pointing out the fact that there are forces attempting to (and succeeding in) divide this nation and identifying who those people are.

Its not that hard of a concept. The Democrats even managed to band together ....ONCE... to condemn Omar for her divisive anti-Semitic behavior and comments.

 

[The Purge]

I KNOW I WILL NEVER FORGET...

DID THE LEFT FORGET, OR JUST NOT CARE SINCE THIS NOW FITS INTO THE ABNORMAL AGENDA?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There is good change and bad change

None of the changes put in place since 9/11 are good. Mass data collection of citizens by the NSA is not good. Being treated like a terrorist at the airport is not good. The government spying on its own citizens is not good. The Executive Branch having unlimited power to detain anyone, including citizens, without charge and access to lawyers is not good.

Look what you leftists have brought us..ANTIFA,, BLM, and radical muslims into our country who either shoot us or kill us with a car, or stab us to death, all in the name of supposed freedom for them....tell me how you tell a good muslim from one that wants to kill us...

The same way you tell with anyone else.

..I will use the GUN BAN that you leftist want...ban them all and we won't have to worry about radical muslims! We need guns to protect us....why do we need muslims?

I am against any and all gun bans, in fact I think we have far too many restrictions now on guns

 

[BlindBoo]

BEFORE politicians and criminals and foreign countries began doubling-down on attempting to divide this nation, splitting it damn-near in half. May that memory bring common sense to Americans, wake them up, and to open their eyes and totally reject the true enemies within this country who seek to 'divide and conquer' instead of unite in strength as we were on

Too bad you had to interject this divisiveness in your never forget statement. Couldn't just remember the victims.

there it is, the don't do that, I said so moment of a thread. it's you bringing attention to it, and no one else. sad you couldn't let a post stand on its merit. The facts are present as Omar has so traitorously stated. why are you afraid of facts anyway?

"reject the true enemies within this country who seek to 'divide and conquer' "

I see those who seek to divide us with false narratives as the enemy.

 

[iceberg]

and i'm saying it's pointless to call for unity while you're still dividing people up into groups.

Understood....and you seem to miss the concept that it is critical to publicly identify those who are attempting to advocate and facilitate division, who are spreading hate. Unification behind a common enemy was seen on 9/12/01. Today snowflakes and Democrats are rallying around and attempting to defend the hate-mongers, anti-Semites, and terrorist-supporters, even those who have attempted to undermine/overthrow this government for the last 4 years based on lies / false narratives.

It is critical to call for unity while pointing out the fact that there are forces attempting to (and succeeding in) divide this nation and identifying who those people are.

Its not that hard of a concept. The Democrats even managed to band together ....ONCE... to condemn Omar for her divisive anti-Semitic behavior and comments.

no i got that. but i also understand those are 2 different roads that don't intersect very often. your "feel good" statement fell to political in just 1 post which brings your initial intent into question. if it didn't then i'd not be asking questions or commenting on it.

pick a direction. don't "get squished like grape".

 

[The Purge]

There is good change and bad change

None of the changes put in place since 9/11 are good. Mass data collection of citizens by the NSA is not good. Being treated like a terrorist at the airport is not good. The government spying on its own citizens is not good. The Executive Branch having unlimited power to detain anyone, including citizens, without charge and access to lawyers is not good.

Look what you leftists have brought us..ANTIFA,, BLM, and radical muslims into our country who either shoot us or kill us with a car, or stab us to death, all in the name of supposed freedom for them....tell me how you tell a good muslim from one that wants to kill us...

The same way you tell with anyone else.

..I will use the GUN BAN that you leftist want...ban them all and we won't have to worry about radical muslims! We need guns to protect us....why do we need muslims?

I am against any and all gun bans, in fact I think we have far too many restrictions now on guns

Some of this I can agree with, others is your usual leftist bullshit.....

With American military personnel now entering service who were not even alive on 9/11, this seems an appropriate time to reexamine the events of September 11, 2001 – the opaque motives for the attacks, the equally opaque motives for the counter-offensive by the United States and its allies known as the Global War on Terror, and the domestic fall-out for Americans concerned about the erosion of their civil liberties on the homefront.

Before venturing further, it’s worth noting that our appraisal is not among the most common explanations. Osama bin Laden, his lieutenants at Al-Qaeda, and the men who carried out the attack against the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon are not “crazy,” unhinged psychopaths launching an attack against the United States without what they consider to be good reason.

Nor do we consider then-President George W. Bush to be either a simpleton, a willing conspirator, an oil profiteer, or a Machivellian puppet whose cabinet were all too happy to take advantage of a crisis.

The American press tends to portray its leaders as fools and knaves, and America’s enemies as psychopathic. Keeping the narrative simple – “Black and white,” “good versus evil,” “right and wrong,” etc. – is intellectually easy, even with something as complex as the 9/11 attacks.

Instead, it is our considered opinion that the events of 9/11 and those that followed in direct response to the attacks – including the invasion of Iraq – were carried out by good faith rational actors who believed they were acting in the best interests of their religion or their nation.

This does not in any way absolve the principals from moral responsibility for the consequences of their actions. It does, however, provide what we believe to be a more accurate and nuanced depiction of events than is generally forthcoming from any sector of the media – because we see these principals as excellent chess players who, in the broad sweep of events, engaged in actions which are explicable....

Because the propaganda machine hammered away so heavily on the “cowardly men who hate our freedom” line, there was not much in the way of careful consideration of the actual political motives of the hijackers, the Petro-Islam that funded them, the ancient, antagonistic split between Sunni and Shi’a, the fall-out from the 1979 Iranian revolution or the 1970s energy crisis, the historical context of covert American involvement in the Soviet-Afghan War and the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980s, nor the perceived “imperialist humanitarianism” of American military adventures of the 1990s in Muslim nations like Bosnia, Iraq, Somalia and Kosovo. Alone, none of these factors were deadly. Combined, they provided a lethal combination.

 

[Vastator]

The nature of Libertys Arch Nemesis is "fear" And shortly after 9/11 America succumbed to it...

Sorry....you get burnt with a match fear is what PROTECTS you from getting. Burned again......you love Liberty fear of it being taken away is very much like a match...you protect yourself from things like the WTC from happening again Now I presume you being a smart fellow will quote Franklins often repeated line....Perhaps all should read this to understand what he was talking about and NOT what all think it is

Ben Franklin's Famous 'Liberty, Safety' Quote Lost Its Context In 21st Century

Vigilance is what is required to maintain liberty. Not fear. Cowards with your mindset, are what sold away the dream of liberty for generations to come.

Yes we see what vigilance has done for mass shootings....if you do not have a little fear, at least for your childrens safety, you are not a coward but a moron!

“Oh! But what about the children!?” Holy fucking cliche...

See use a leftist cry and they MELT!

Not only are you too fool to know that one cannot possess fear; merely be possessed by it; your too dumb to know when you’re being openly mocked. Best go hide behind the children. After all they’re the ones who are going to pay the most for your cowardice.

 

[easyt65]

I think that pretty well spells out your mission. "Lets all join hands and sing in unison our hatred for all the liberals who, as all Trumpublicans know, all supported the attackers." Got it.

Nice demonstration of how YOU are trying your damnedest to spin this as a 'partisan' thing instead of an 'America / American' thing....

I will try to type slower this time since you are having a hard time keeping up....

I never criticized Omar as a Liberal, a Democrat, a Socialist Democrat, or being affiliated with any other political party, snowflake. I pointed out a simple fact, that Ilhan Omar intentionally disrespected this nation, the horrific attacks on the US on 9/11/01, and the victims and their families by callously declaring 'someone did something'.

Your attempt to brand me as some partisan intending to attack someone affiliated with any political party is your pushing a LIE!

As an AMERICAN I am angered by her intentional disrespectful comments that at the same time seek to minimize the gravity and horrific results of those attacks.

You continue to be CONSUMED and driven by PARTY-1st Partisanship and seek to project that onto others, or at least me.

I did not join the military, serve for 30 years, and go to and fight in some of the worst parts of this world you will never see to protect the rights of CONSERVATIVES....or DEMOCRATS....or Socialists...etc.. I have and continue to serve my COUNTRY - not any party. I have and continue to serve to defend EVERYONE'S Constitutional Rights and freedoms, snowflake.

I was not devastated on 9/11/01 that terrorists killed Conservatives / Right-Wingers, who were among all the Democrats and others in those buildings and on those planes, you idiot. Holy Hell, you have allowed yourself to be indoctrinated into a Party-1st, Us-Democrats-Vs-Right-Winger mentality instead of remembering that we are all AMERCIANS 1ST ... US AMERICANS versus everyone else in unity 1st - something we saw on 9/12/01 but have obviously for gotten based on your comments.

My comments, again, regarding Omar has NOTHING to do with Partisanship, NOTHING to do with her being a Democrat, NOTHING to do with her political affiliation but EVERYTHING to do with the fact that this ungrateful Muslim Refugee given the incredible gift of being brought to this country - infinitely better than where she left - and given citizenship has not only refused to 'assimilate' (the big melting pot, ring a bell?) but has intentionally disrespected her new country and mocked the attacks and victims of 9/11/01.

Now, if you still can't comprehend that this has nothing to do with your false narrative about partisanship then, God help you, you are too stupid to get it or too partisan and intent on using this as a divisive tool to admit it.

 

[easyt65]

didn't you just use a pic of someone to illustrate EVERYONE on the OTHER side yourself to bash "the other side" *RIGHT FUCKING AFTER* a call for unity?

No.

well that's certainly how it came across. coupled with the rest of your conversation, you're doing EXACTLY what you're bitching about.

what again are you wanting to pass off to our children again??? nevermind. my apathy about this is now consuming me.

 

[iceberg]

didn't you just use a pic of someone to illustrate EVERYONE on the OTHER side yourself to bash "the other side" *RIGHT FUCKING AFTER* a call for unity?

No.

well that's certainly how it came across. coupled with the rest of your conversation, you're doing EXACTLY what you're bitching about.

what again are you wanting to pass off to our children again??? nevermind. my apathy about this is now consuming me.

yea, ok. later on, hos.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There is good change and bad change

None of the changes put in place since 9/11 are good. Mass data collection of citizens by the NSA is not good. Being treated like a terrorist at the airport is not good. The government spying on its own citizens is not good. The Executive Branch having unlimited power to detain anyone, including citizens, without charge and access to lawyers is not good.

Look what you leftists have brought us..ANTIFA,, BLM, and radical muslims into our country who either shoot us or kill us with a car, or stab us to death, all in the name of supposed freedom for them....tell me how you tell a good muslim from one that wants to kill us...

The same way you tell with anyone else.

..I will use the GUN BAN that you leftist want...ban them all and we won't have to worry about radical muslims! We need guns to protect us....why do we need muslims?

I am against any and all gun bans, in fact I think we have far too many restrictions now on guns

Some of this I can agree with, others is your usual leftist bullshit.....

With American military personnel now entering service who were not even alive on 9/11, this seems an appropriate time to reexamine the events of September 11, 2001 – the opaque motives for the attacks, the equally opaque motives for the counter-offensive by the United States and its allies known as the Global War on Terror, and the domestic fall-out for Americans concerned about the erosion of their civil liberties on the homefront.

Before venturing further, it’s worth noting that our appraisal is not among the most common explanations. Osama bin Laden, his lieutenants at Al-Qaeda, and the men who carried out the attack against the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon are not “crazy,” unhinged psychopaths launching an attack against the United States without what they consider to be good reason.

Nor do we consider then-President George W. Bush to be either a simpleton, a willing conspirator, an oil profiteer, or a Machivellian puppet whose cabinet were all too happy to take advantage of a crisis.

The American press tends to portray its leaders as fools and knaves, and America’s enemies as psychopathic. Keeping the narrative simple – “Black and white,” “good versus evil,” “right and wrong,” etc. – is intellectually easy, even with something as complex as the 9/11 attacks.

Instead, it is our considered opinion that the events of 9/11 and those that followed in direct response to the attacks – including the invasion of Iraq – were carried out by good faith rational actors who believed they were acting in the best interests of their religion or their nation.

This does not in any way absolve the principals from moral responsibility for the consequences of their actions. It does, however, provide what we believe to be a more accurate and nuanced depiction of events than is generally forthcoming from any sector of the media – because we see these principals as excellent chess players who, in the broad sweep of events, engaged in actions which are explicable....

Because the propaganda machine hammered away so heavily on the “cowardly men who hate our freedom” line, there was not much in the way of careful consideration of the actual political motives of the hijackers, the Petro-Islam that funded them, the ancient, antagonistic split between Sunni and Shi’a, the fall-out from the 1979 Iranian revolution or the 1970s energy crisis, the historical context of covert American involvement in the Soviet-Afghan War and the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980s, nor the perceived “imperialist humanitarianism” of American military adventures of the 1990s in Muslim nations like Bosnia, Iraq, Somalia and Kosovo. Alone, none of these factors were deadly. Combined, they provided a lethal combination.

Which part of my answer did you did find to be left wingish?

 

[The Purge]

Sorry....you get burnt with a match fear is what PROTECTS you from getting. Burned again......you love Liberty fear of it being taken away is very much like a match...you protect yourself from things like the WTC from happening again Now I presume you being a smart fellow will quote Franklins often repeated line....Perhaps all should read this to understand what he was talking about and NOT what all think it is

Ben Franklin's Famous 'Liberty, Safety' Quote Lost Its Context In 21st Century

Vigilance is what is required to maintain liberty. Not fear. Cowards with your mindset, are what sold away the dream of liberty for generations to come.

Yes we see what vigilance has done for mass shootings....if you do not have a little fear, at least for your childrens safety, you are not a coward but a moron!

“Oh! But what about the children!?” Holy fucking cliche...

See use a leftist cry and they MELT!

Not only are you too fool to know that one cannot possess fear; merely be possessed by it; your too dumb to know when you’re being openly mocked. Best go hide behind the children. After all they’re the ones who are going to pay the most for your cowardice.

The ANTI-AMERICAN who wants us to become communist has spoken....we KNOW who you are and what little scum like you are trying to do.....But please continue so decent people and patriots can see the enemy America faces!

 

[The Purge]

There is good change and bad change

None of the changes put in place since 9/11 are good. Mass data collection of citizens by the NSA is not good. Being treated like a terrorist at the airport is not good. The government spying on its own citizens is not good. The Executive Branch having unlimited power to detain anyone, including citizens, without charge and access to lawyers is not good.

Look what you leftists have brought us..ANTIFA,, BLM, and radical muslims into our country who either shoot us or kill us with a car, or stab us to death, all in the name of supposed freedom for them....tell me how you tell a good muslim from one that wants to kill us...

The same way you tell with anyone else.

..I will use the GUN BAN that you leftist want...ban them all and we won't have to worry about radical muslims! We need guns to protect us....why do we need muslims?

I am against any and all gun bans, in fact I think we have far too many restrictions now on guns

Some of this I can agree with, others is your usual leftist bullshit.....

With American military personnel now entering service who were not even alive on 9/11, this seems an appropriate time to reexamine the events of September 11, 2001 – the opaque motives for the attacks, the equally opaque motives for the counter-offensive by the United States and its allies known as the Global War on Terror, and the domestic fall-out for Americans concerned about the erosion of their civil liberties on the homefront.

Before venturing further, it’s worth noting that our appraisal is not among the most common explanations. Osama bin Laden, his lieutenants at Al-Qaeda, and the men who carried out the attack against the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon are not “crazy,” unhinged psychopaths launching an attack against the United States without what they consider to be good reason.

Nor do we consider then-President George W. Bush to be either a simpleton, a willing conspirator, an oil profiteer, or a Machivellian puppet whose cabinet were all too happy to take advantage of a crisis.

The American press tends to portray its leaders as fools and knaves, and America’s enemies as psychopathic. Keeping the narrative simple – “Black and white,” “good versus evil,” “right and wrong,” etc. – is intellectually easy, even with something as complex as the 9/11 attacks.

Instead, it is our considered opinion that the events of 9/11 and those that followed in direct response to the attacks – including the invasion of Iraq – were carried out by good faith rational actors who believed they were acting in the best interests of their religion or their nation.

This does not in any way absolve the principals from moral responsibility for the consequences of their actions. It does, however, provide what we believe to be a more accurate and nuanced depiction of events than is generally forthcoming from any sector of the media – because we see these principals as excellent chess players who, in the broad sweep of events, engaged in actions which are explicable....

Because the propaganda machine hammered away so heavily on the “cowardly men who hate our freedom” line, there was not much in the way of careful consideration of the actual political motives of the hijackers, the Petro-Islam that funded them, the ancient, antagonistic split between Sunni and Shi’a, the fall-out from the 1979 Iranian revolution or the 1970s energy crisis, the historical context of covert American involvement in the Soviet-Afghan War and the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980s, nor the perceived “imperialist humanitarianism” of American military adventures of the 1990s in Muslim nations like Bosnia, Iraq, Somalia and Kosovo. Alone, none of these factors were deadly. Combined, they provided a lethal combination.

Which part of my answer did you did find to be left wingish?

The very first line to begin with.... Even REAL DEMOCRATS of the time joined in the Patriot act.....it did need to be amended but on a whole was right on.

 

[Vastator]

Vigilance is what is required to maintain liberty. Not fear. Cowards with your mindset, are what sold away the dream of liberty for generations to come.

Yes we see what vigilance has done for mass shootings....if you do not have a little fear, at least for your childrens safety, you are not a coward but a moron!

“Oh! But what about the children!?” Holy fucking cliche...

See use a leftist cry and they MELT!

Not only are you too fool to know that one cannot possess fear; merely be possessed by it; your too dumb to know when you’re being openly mocked. Best go hide behind the children. After all they’re the ones who are going to pay the most for your cowardice.

The ANTI-AMERICAN who wants us to become communist has spoken....we KNOW who you are and what little scum like you are trying to do.....But please continue so decent people and patriots can see the enemy America faces!

What in the fuck are you blabbing about now? You’re Tourette’s doing your typing?

 

[BlindBoo]

YOU are trying your damnedest to spin this as a 'partisan' thing instead of an 'America / American' thing

You did the partisan spin in your initial post. Then accused me of supporting the perpetrators of 9-11 when I pointed out that this should be a day of remembrance of the fallen, not used as partisan exercise to debase the opposition.

"Americans need to unite against our enemies, not rally around them and defend them like you...."

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There is good change and bad change

None of the changes put in place since 9/11 are good. Mass data collection of citizens by the NSA is not good. Being treated like a terrorist at the airport is not good. The government spying on its own citizens is not good. The Executive Branch having unlimited power to detain anyone, including citizens, without charge and access to lawyers is not good.

Look what you leftists have brought us..ANTIFA,, BLM, and radical muslims into our country who either shoot us or kill us with a car, or stab us to death, all in the name of supposed freedom for them....tell me how you tell a good muslim from one that wants to kill us...

The same way you tell with anyone else.

..I will use the GUN BAN that you leftist want...ban them all and we won't have to worry about radical muslims! We need guns to protect us....why do we need muslims?

I am against any and all gun bans, in fact I think we have far too many restrictions now on guns

Some of this I can agree with, others is your usual leftist bullshit.....

With American military personnel now entering service who were not even alive on 9/11, this seems an appropriate time to reexamine the events of September 11, 2001 – the opaque motives for the attacks, the equally opaque motives for the counter-offensive by the United States and its allies known as the Global War on Terror, and the domestic fall-out for Americans concerned about the erosion of their civil liberties on the homefront.

Before venturing further, it’s worth noting that our appraisal is not among the most common explanations. Osama bin Laden, his lieutenants at Al-Qaeda, and the men who carried out the attack against the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon are not “crazy,” unhinged psychopaths launching an attack against the United States without what they consider to be good reason.

Nor do we consider then-President George W. Bush to be either a simpleton, a willing conspirator, an oil profiteer, or a Machivellian puppet whose cabinet were all too happy to take advantage of a crisis.

The American press tends to portray its leaders as fools and knaves, and America’s enemies as psychopathic. Keeping the narrative simple – “Black and white,” “good versus evil,” “right and wrong,” etc. – is intellectually easy, even with something as complex as the 9/11 attacks.

Instead, it is our considered opinion that the events of 9/11 and those that followed in direct response to the attacks – including the invasion of Iraq – were carried out by good faith rational actors who believed they were acting in the best interests of their religion or their nation.

This does not in any way absolve the principals from moral responsibility for the consequences of their actions. It does, however, provide what we believe to be a more accurate and nuanced depiction of events than is generally forthcoming from any sector of the media – because we see these principals as excellent chess players who, in the broad sweep of events, engaged in actions which are explicable....

Because the propaganda machine hammered away so heavily on the “cowardly men who hate our freedom” line, there was not much in the way of careful consideration of the actual political motives of the hijackers, the Petro-Islam that funded them, the ancient, antagonistic split between Sunni and Shi’a, the fall-out from the 1979 Iranian revolution or the 1970s energy crisis, the historical context of covert American involvement in the Soviet-Afghan War and the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980s, nor the perceived “imperialist humanitarianism” of American military adventures of the 1990s in Muslim nations like Bosnia, Iraq, Somalia and Kosovo. Alone, none of these factors were deadly. Combined, they provided a lethal combination.

Which part of my answer did you did find to be left wingish?

The very first line to begin with.... Even REAL DEMOCRATS of the time joined in the Patriot act.....it did need to be amended but on a whole was right on.

The Patriot act was the greatest win for the terrorist.

It was the single biggest loss of rights in our history

 

[The Purge]

There is good change and bad change

None of the changes put in place since 9/11 are good. Mass data collection of citizens by the NSA is not good. Being treated like a terrorist at the airport is not good. The government spying on its own citizens is not good. The Executive Branch having unlimited power to detain anyone, including citizens, without charge and access to lawyers is not good.

Look what you leftists have brought us..ANTIFA,, BLM, and radical muslims into our country who either shoot us or kill us with a car, or stab us to death, all in the name of supposed freedom for them....tell me how you tell a good muslim from one that wants to kill us...

The same way you tell with anyone else.

..I will use the GUN BAN that you leftist want...ban them all and we won't have to worry about radical muslims! We need guns to protect us....why do we need muslims?

I am against any and all gun bans, in fact I think we have far too many restrictions now on guns

Some of this I can agree with, others is your usual leftist bullshit.....

With American military personnel now entering service who were not even alive on 9/11, this seems an appropriate time to reexamine the events of September 11, 2001 – the opaque motives for the attacks, the equally opaque motives for the counter-offensive by the United States and its allies known as the Global War on Terror, and the domestic fall-out for Americans concerned about the erosion of their civil liberties on the homefront.

Before venturing further, it’s worth noting that our appraisal is not among the most common explanations. Osama bin Laden, his lieutenants at Al-Qaeda, and the men who carried out the attack against the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon are not “crazy,” unhinged psychopaths launching an attack against the United States without what they consider to be good reason.

Nor do we consider then-President George W. Bush to be either a simpleton, a willing conspirator, an oil profiteer, or a Machivellian puppet whose cabinet were all too happy to take advantage of a crisis.

The American press tends to portray its leaders as fools and knaves, and America’s enemies as psychopathic. Keeping the narrative simple – “Black and white,” “good versus evil,” “right and wrong,” etc. – is intellectually easy, even with something as complex as the 9/11 attacks.

Instead, it is our considered opinion that the events of 9/11 and those that followed in direct response to the attacks – including the invasion of Iraq – were carried out by good faith rational actors who believed they were acting in the best interests of their religion or their nation.

This does not in any way absolve the principals from moral responsibility for the consequences of their actions. It does, however, provide what we believe to be a more accurate and nuanced depiction of events than is generally forthcoming from any sector of the media – because we see these principals as excellent chess players who, in the broad sweep of events, engaged in actions which are explicable....

Because the propaganda machine hammered away so heavily on the “cowardly men who hate our freedom” line, there was not much in the way of careful consideration of the actual political motives of the hijackers, the Petro-Islam that funded them, the ancient, antagonistic split between Sunni and Shi’a, the fall-out from the 1979 Iranian revolution or the 1970s energy crisis, the historical context of covert American involvement in the Soviet-Afghan War and the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980s, nor the perceived “imperialist humanitarianism” of American military adventures of the 1990s in Muslim nations like Bosnia, Iraq, Somalia and Kosovo. Alone, none of these factors were deadly. Combined, they provided a lethal combination.

Which part of my answer did you did find to be left wingish?

The very first line to begin with.... Even REAL DEMOCRATS of the time joined in the Patriot act.....it did need to be amended but on a whole was right on.

The Patriot act was the greatest win for the terrorist.

It was the single biggest loss of rights in our history

WW is internment camps... .sorry....idiot!

 

[The Purge]

Yes we see what vigilance has done for mass shootings....if you do not have a little fear, at least for your childrens safety, you are not a coward but a moron!

“Oh! But what about the children!?” Holy fucking cliche...

See use a leftist cry and they MELT!

Not only are you too fool to know that one cannot possess fear; merely be possessed by it; your too dumb to know when you’re being openly mocked. Best go hide behind the children. After all they’re the ones who are going to pay the most for your cowardice.

The ANTI-AMERICAN who wants us to become communist has spoken....we KNOW who you are and what little scum like you are trying to do.....But please continue so decent people and patriots can see the enemy America faces!

What in the fuck are you blabbing about now? You’re Tourette’s doing your typing?

When you have been put down like the flea bag you are....divert!.....Did we blame all of Japan for Pearl Harbor....shall we blame muslims....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

None of the changes put in place since 9/11 are good. Mass data collection of citizens by the NSA is not good. Being treated like a terrorist at the airport is not good. The government spying on its own citizens is not good. The Executive Branch having unlimited power to detain anyone, including citizens, without charge and access to lawyers is not good.


The same way you tell with anyone else.


I am against any and all gun bans, in fact I think we have far too many restrictions now on guns

Some of this I can agree with, others is your usual leftist bullshit.....

With American military personnel now entering service who were not even alive on 9/11, this seems an appropriate time to reexamine the events of September 11, 2001 – the opaque motives for the attacks, the equally opaque motives for the counter-offensive by the United States and its allies known as the Global War on Terror, and the domestic fall-out for Americans concerned about the erosion of their civil liberties on the homefront.

Before venturing further, it’s worth noting that our appraisal is not among the most common explanations. Osama bin Laden, his lieutenants at Al-Qaeda, and the men who carried out the attack against the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon are not “crazy,” unhinged psychopaths launching an attack against the United States without what they consider to be good reason.

Nor do we consider then-President George W. Bush to be either a simpleton, a willing conspirator, an oil profiteer, or a Machivellian puppet whose cabinet were all too happy to take advantage of a crisis.

The American press tends to portray its leaders as fools and knaves, and America’s enemies as psychopathic. Keeping the narrative simple – “Black and white,” “good versus evil,” “right and wrong,” etc. – is intellectually easy, even with something as complex as the 9/11 attacks.

Instead, it is our considered opinion that the events of 9/11 and those that followed in direct response to the attacks – including the invasion of Iraq – were carried out by good faith rational actors who believed they were acting in the best interests of their religion or their nation.

This does not in any way absolve the principals from moral responsibility for the consequences of their actions. It does, however, provide what we believe to be a more accurate and nuanced depiction of events than is generally forthcoming from any sector of the media – because we see these principals as excellent chess players who, in the broad sweep of events, engaged in actions which are explicable....

Because the propaganda machine hammered away so heavily on the “cowardly men who hate our freedom” line, there was not much in the way of careful consideration of the actual political motives of the hijackers, the Petro-Islam that funded them, the ancient, antagonistic split between Sunni and Shi’a, the fall-out from the 1979 Iranian revolution or the 1970s energy crisis, the historical context of covert American involvement in the Soviet-Afghan War and the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980s, nor the perceived “imperialist humanitarianism” of American military adventures of the 1990s in Muslim nations like Bosnia, Iraq, Somalia and Kosovo. Alone, none of these factors were deadly. Combined, they provided a lethal combination.

Which part of my answer did you did find to be left wingish?

The very first line to begin with.... Even REAL DEMOCRATS of the time joined in the Patriot act.....it did need to be amended but on a whole was right on.

The Patriot act was the greatest win for the terrorist.

It was the single biggest loss of rights in our history

WW is internment camps... .sorry....idiot!

Those, as bad as they were, affected a tiny percent of the population.

The Patriot act targets the entire population

 

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“Oh! But what about the children!?” Holy fucking cliche...

See use a leftist cry and they MELT!

Not only are you too fool to know that one cannot possess fear; merely be possessed by it; your too dumb to know when you’re being openly mocked. Best go hide behind the children. After all they’re the ones who are going to pay the most for your cowardice.

The ANTI-AMERICAN who wants us to become communist has spoken....we KNOW who you are and what little scum like you are trying to do.....But please continue so decent people and patriots can see the enemy America faces!

What in the fuck are you blabbing about now? You’re Tourette’s doing your typing?

When you have been put down like the flea bag you are....divert!.....Did we blame all of Japan for Pearl Harbor....shall we blame muslims....

What the fuck disjointed nonsense is this? Is this your attempt at a relevant reply, to any post I've ever made? If so; please provide a quote or something, so you don't come off as nothing more than a blathering idiot.