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Deducting drilling costs is not a subsidy.
Of course, that is precisely what it is. That is what it is and what it is designed to be. It's a decrease in tax meant to encourage a particular behavior.
AKA getting the taxpayer to foot the bill.
The taxpayer 'cookie jar' isn't going to last forever.
The DEMs are all for letting millions more illegals into the country. AKA future DEM voters. (Who wouldn't want all the free shit right?) I'm sure they will be able to pay enough federal taxes to keep things going.......right?
Meanwhile your brother-in--law who used to lay carpets is sitting at home b/c an illegal was willing to work for half the hourly rate as long as it's 'cash'.
 
No, we shouldn't be "supporting" any kind of energy. We should let the market decide which kind of energy we use.

So, you are against tax subsidies for oil and gas companies?
Sure I am, but you are delusional about what constitutes a "tax subsidy." Deducting drilling costs is not a subsidy.

of course it is. why should they get to deduct the cost of a basic part of their business.

Does WalMart get to deduct the cost of shipping the goods to their stores?
Every business is allowed to deduct the cost of doing business, moron. Income is defined as revenue - expenses. Do you actually believe drilling costs are not an expense? Do you believe Ford Motor Company should not be allowed to deduct the cost of sheet metal?

Moronic shit like that is why no intelligent person believes anything a leftist says.

drilling is their business.
That's right, dumbass, and making cars is Ford's business. Do you believe Ford should be allowed to deduct that cost of sheet steel?

Businesses are allowed to deduct their expenses, and drilling is an expense. How fucking stupid do you have to be not to understand that?
 
AKA getting the taxpayer to foot the bill.
To some extent, sure. Taxpayers have subsidized many projects and development of tech in the past, and will do so in the future. And to another extent, these measures will be successful precisely because they are more economically viable, saving the average person money. By the same logic, we subsidize natural gas exploration. Are you going to complain about that, now? Or do you have some sort of ideology to present that holds natural gas as preferable to less impactful sources of energy?
 
We already have a the most effective energy source that produces ZERO emissions in nuclear energy. Nobody talks about the toxic waste that is used in batteries and solar panels, once they reach the end of their life cycle you got to get rid of it somehow. Renewable is a misnomer for solar energy using batteries. Yes nuclear energy produces waste, an incredibly small ammount compared to what solar panels alone would produce to create the same amount of energy, not including the batteries solar energy would require. It’s also a myth that we don’t have good options to dispose of nuclear waste. We do what we’re doing now. It produces so little nuclear waste, we have enough space to quadruple our nuclear energy capacity and still not make a dent for a couple centuries without building any more storage facilities. Nuclear is so much cleaner and efficient than everything it’s amazing how little it is considered
 
Every business is allowed to deduct the cost of doing business,
But not any and all costs. So your entire rant, predicated on this false implication, is kind of worthless.
Yes, it's allowed to deduct any and all legitimate expenses. Buying a $10 million home for the CEO isn't a legitimate expense. It's income to the CEO. Drilling costs, on the other hand, are a legitimate expense. Only brain morons believe otherwise.
 
AKA getting the taxpayer to foot the bill.
To some extent, sure. And to another extent, these measures will be successful precisely because they are more economically viable, saving the average person money. By the same logic, we subsidize natural gas exploration. Are you going to complain about that, now? Or do you have some sort of ideology to present that holds natural gas as preferable to less impactful sources of energy?
We don't subsidize natural gas exploration, dumbass.
 
So, you are against tax subsidies for oil and gas companies?
Sure I am, but you are delusional about what constitutes a "tax subsidy." Deducting drilling costs is not a subsidy.

of course it is. why should they get to deduct the cost of a basic part of their business.

Does WalMart get to deduct the cost of shipping the goods to their stores?
Every business is allowed to deduct the cost of doing business, moron. Income is defined as revenue - expenses. Do you actually believe drilling costs are not an expense? Do you believe Ford Motor Company should not be allowed to deduct the cost of sheet metal?

Moronic shit like that is why no intelligent person believes anything a leftist says.

drilling is their business.
That's right, dumbass, and making cars is Ford's business. Do you believe Ford should be allowed to deduct that cost of sheet steel?

Businesses are allowed to deduct their expenses, and drilling is an expense. How fucking stupid do you have to be not to understand that?

Oil companies get special treatment, "intangible drilling" costs expenses are treated differently than other operating expenses. Instead of deducting the expenses over the same time period as profits like most companies have to do, they can write off 70% of them up front. This saves them billions in tax dollars while we are adding trillions to the debt.
 
Nobody talks about the toxic waste that is used in batteries and solar panels, once they reach the end of their life cycle you got to get rid of it somehow.
A fair point. But it is worth noting that those byproducts not only do not remain a threat to humans for 100s of 1000s of years (as nuke plant waste does), they also don't require as much infrastructure and effort to sequester. Nuke waste requires 'round the clock cooling and shielding. For 100s of 1000s of years. So there are hurdles to clear.
 
Sure I am, but you are delusional about what constitutes a "tax subsidy." Deducting drilling costs is not a subsidy.

of course it is. why should they get to deduct the cost of a basic part of their business.

Does WalMart get to deduct the cost of shipping the goods to their stores?
Every business is allowed to deduct the cost of doing business, moron. Income is defined as revenue - expenses. Do you actually believe drilling costs are not an expense? Do you believe Ford Motor Company should not be allowed to deduct the cost of sheet metal?

Moronic shit like that is why no intelligent person believes anything a leftist says.

drilling is their business.
That's right, dumbass, and making cars is Ford's business. Do you believe Ford should be allowed to deduct that cost of sheet steel?

Businesses are allowed to deduct their expenses, and drilling is an expense. How fucking stupid do you have to be not to understand that?

Oil companies get special treatment, the Intangible drilling costs expenses are treated differently than other operating expenses. Instead of deducting the expenses over the same time period as profits like most companies have to do, they can write off 70% of them up front. This saves them billions in tax dollars while we are adding trillions to the debt.
That's another issue, but every company should be able to write of 100% the minute they are incurred. This game the IRS plays of only allowing an expense to be shown over time is ridiculous.
 
AKA getting the taxpayer to foot the bill.
To some extent, sure. And to another extent, these measures will be successful precisely because they are more economically viable, saving the average person money. By the same logic, we subsidize natural gas exploration. Are you going to complain about that, now? Or do you have some sort of ideology to present that holds natural gas as preferable to less impactful sources of energy?
We don't subsidize natural gas exploration, dumbass.
When lawmakers tear up regulations and write laws which prevent landowners from suing gas companies for poisoning the aquifers, that is a form of subsidy. Dumbass ( to use your kind of language)
 
AKA getting the taxpayer to foot the bill.
To some extent, sure. And to another extent, these measures will be successful precisely because they are more economically viable, saving the average person money. By the same logic, we subsidize natural gas exploration. Are you going to complain about that, now? Or do you have some sort of ideology to present that holds natural gas as preferable to less impactful sources of energy?
We don't subsidize natural gas exploration, dumbass.
When lawmakers tear up regulations and write laws which prevent landowners from suing gas companies for poisoning the aquifers, that is a form of subsidy. Dumbass ( to use your kind of language)
No gas company has ever been shown to have poisoned an aquifer. What law prevents landowners from suing?
 

What a load of bullshit. No study has ever shown that fracking has introduced natural gas into an aquifer. The substances drillers inject into a well are mostly benign. Furthermore, they are injected at depths that are thousands of feet below any conceivable aquifer.
 
We don't subsidize natural gas exploration,

Of course, that's false and idiotic, as the DOE continues to pour money into research on shale gas exploration and extraction, with the results being given out for free to those companies.

You know, precisely the same subsidy you lose your little mind over, when anyone suggests it for renewables.
 
AKA getting the taxpayer to foot the bill.
To some extent, sure. And to another extent, these measures will be successful precisely because they are more economically viable, saving the average person money. By the same logic, we subsidize natural gas exploration. Are you going to complain about that, now? Or do you have some sort of ideology to present that holds natural gas as preferable to less impactful sources of energy?
We don't subsidize natural gas exploration, dumbass.
When lawmakers tear up regulations and write laws which prevent landowners from suing gas companies for poisoning the aquifers, that is a form of subsidy. Dumbass ( to use your kind of language)
No gas company has ever been shown to have poisoned an aquifer. What law prevents landowners from suing?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/psmag....n-netherlands-still-contaminating-groundwater

Fracking Has Contaminated Drinking Water, EPA Now Concludes

I try really hard to make true statements. You’re kind calls me a liar anyway. That’s because Republicans have no shame.
 
Since we have 150 years of cheap oil and gas and 400 years of cheap coal reserves all you planet huggers just deal with reality, fossil fuels are here to stay.
 

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