Reopen the Economy

[Oddball]

COVID is a cold. Once you get a cold you do not get the same one twice. This is why the older you get the fewer colds you get as you have built up an immunity to many of the strains. My Doctor went to Harvard Med School. I ll take his diagnosis over yours lol.

Dude, I'm only trained in EMS and know all this shit....The rank stupidity of complete dilettantes trying to hold forth on this topic has given me a two-month long migraine.

 

[Oddball]

Shutting down the non-essential businesses, to my understanding, is up to the governors. They can do what they want and deal with those consequences.

If NH opens up and MA doesn’t, I ll be partying in NH tomorrow.

Go for it.

Well I am immune so it won’t bother me.

I haven't seen any evidence suggesting that someone can be immune to it after recovering from it.

Actually we do!

Convolescant Plasma is proving we do develop immunities to this virus. We have medical staff who were infected and after recovering went back to work and have not been reinfected despite dealing with patients. We just dont know how long it lasts.

I'll take a look at any links you provide. So far, I'm seeing the exact opposite reported.

It works and it works well.


"Significance
COVID-19 is currently a big threat to global health. However, no specific antiviral agents are available for its treatment. In this work, we explore the feasibility of convalescent plasma (CP) transfusion to rescue severe patients. The results from 10 severe adult cases showed that one dose (200 mL) of CP was well tolerated and could significantly increase or maintain the neutralizing antibodies at a high level, leading to disappearance of viremia in 7 d. Meanwhile, clinical symptoms and paraclinical criteria rapidly improved within 3 d. Radiological examination showed varying degrees of absorption of lung lesions within 7 d. These results indicate that CP can serve as a promising rescue option for severe COVID-19, while the randomized trial is warranted.
Abstract
Currently, there are no approved specific antiviral agents for novel coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). In this study, 10 severe patients confirmed by real-time viral RNA test were enrolled prospectively. One dose of 200 mL of convalescent plasma (CP) derived from recently recovered donors with the neutralizing antibody titers above 1:640 was transfused to the patients as an addition to maximal supportive care and antiviral agents. The primary endpoint was the safety of CP transfusion. The second endpoints were the improvement of clinical symptoms and laboratory parameters within 3 d after CP transfusion. The median time from onset of illness to CP transfusion was 16.5 d. After CP transfusion, the level of neutralizing antibody increased rapidly up to 1:640 in five cases, while that of the other four cases maintained at a high level (1:640). The clinical symptoms were significantly improved along with increase of oxyhemoglobin saturation within 3 d. Several parameters tended to improve as compared to pretransfusion, including increased lymphocyte counts (0.65 × 109/L vs. 0.76 × 109/L) and decreased C-reactive protein (55.98 mg/L vs. 18.13 mg/L). Radiological examinations showed varying degrees of absorption of lung lesions within 7 d. The viral load was undetectable after transfusion in seven patients who had previous viremia. No severe adverse effects were observed. This study showed CP therapy was well tolerated and could potentially improve the clinical outcomes through neutralizing viremia in severe COVID-19 cases. The optimal dose and time point, as well as the clinical benefit of CP therapy, needs further investigation in larger well-controlled trials."

Effectiveness of convalescent plasma therapy in severe COVID-19 patients

COVID-19 is currently a big threat to global health. However, no specific antiviral agents are available for its treatment. In this work, we explore the feasibility of convalescent plasma (CP) transfusion to rescue severe patients. The results from 10 severe adult cases showed that one dose (200...

www.pnas.org

Gold coin before swine.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

COVID is a cold. Once you get a cold you do not get the same one twice. This is why the older you get the fewer colds you get as you have built up an immunity to many of the strains. My Doctor went to Harvard Med School. I ll take his diagnosis over yours lol.

Dude, I'm only trained in EMS and know all this shit....The rank stupidity of complete dilettantes trying to hold forth on this topic has given me a two-month long migraine.

So you agree I am immune? Thanks.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Shutting down the non-essential businesses, to my understanding, is up to the governors. They can do what they want and deal with those consequences.

If NH opens up and MA doesn’t, I ll be partying in NH tomorrow.

Go for it.

Well I am immune so it won’t bother me.

FYI

Be careful!

YOU MIGHT NOT BE IMMUNE!

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.
"There is no evidence yet that people who have had Covid-19 will not get a second infection," WHO said in a scientific brief published Friday.

What is herd immunity and why some think it could end the coronavirus pandemic
It cautions against governments that are considering issuing so-called "immunity passports" to people who have had Covid-19, assuming they are safe to resume normal life.

"At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an 'immunity passport' or 'risk-free certificate,' " WHO said.


Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove from WHO has previously said it's not known whether people who have been exposed to the virus become completely immune. The new WHO brief underscores that stance, and jibes with other scientific statements about the idea of developing immunity.

During a Friday briefing, the Infectious Diseases Society of America warned that not enough is known about antibody testing to assume immunity.

Dr. Mary Hayden, spokesperson for IDSA and chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Rush University Medical Center, said, "We do not know whether or not patients who have these antibodies are still at risk of reinfection with Covid-19. At this point, I think we have to assume that they could be at risk of reinfection."

"We don't know even if the antibodies are protective, what degree of protection they provide, so it could be complete, it could be partial, or how long the antibodies last," Hayden added, "We know that antibody responses wane over time."

The society is "recommending that people with antibodies not change their behavior in any way, continue social distancing etc. And we think that this is a really important point to emphasize because we're concerned that if this could be present, that these antibodies could be misinterpreted, people could put themselves at unnecessary risk," Hayden said.

WHO says no evidence shows that having coronavirus prevents a second infection | CNN

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.

www.cnn.com

The WHO is suspect at this time. None of thier information has been corroborated as of yet. After their BS of being in China's pocket I dont trust a damn word from them.

 

[Coyote]

Shutting down the non-essential businesses, to my understanding, is up to the governors. They can do what they want and deal with those consequences.

If NH opens up and MA doesn’t, I ll be partying in NH tomorrow.

Go for it.

Well I am immune so it won’t bother me.

FYI

Be careful!

YOU MIGHT NOT BE IMMUNE!

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.
"There is no evidence yet that people who have had Covid-19 will not get a second infection," WHO said in a scientific brief published Friday.

What is herd immunity and why some think it could end the coronavirus pandemic
It cautions against governments that are considering issuing so-called "immunity passports" to people who have had Covid-19, assuming they are safe to resume normal life.

"At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an 'immunity passport' or 'risk-free certificate,' " WHO said.


Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove from WHO has previously said it's not known whether people who have been exposed to the virus become completely immune. The new WHO brief underscores that stance, and jibes with other scientific statements about the idea of developing immunity.

During a Friday briefing, the Infectious Diseases Society of America warned that not enough is known about antibody testing to assume immunity.

Dr. Mary Hayden, spokesperson for IDSA and chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Rush University Medical Center, said, "We do not know whether or not patients who have these antibodies are still at risk of reinfection with Covid-19. At this point, I think we have to assume that they could be at risk of reinfection."

"We don't know even if the antibodies are protective, what degree of protection they provide, so it could be complete, it could be partial, or how long the antibodies last," Hayden added, "We know that antibody responses wane over time."

The society is "recommending that people with antibodies not change their behavior in any way, continue social distancing etc. And we think that this is a really important point to emphasize because we're concerned that if this could be present, that these antibodies could be misinterpreted, people could put themselves at unnecessary risk," Hayden said.

WHO says no evidence shows that having coronavirus prevents a second infection | CNN

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.

www.cnn.com

https://health.usnews.com/conditions/articles/if-i-get-coronavirus-can-i-get-it-again

Then what Is the point of the vaccine? LOL that’s how it works. Giving a little to build immunity.

True...but be careful. Different virus confer different levels of immunity. No one knows how long titers last or how effective they are yet. I know from vaccinating my own dogs. Some hold up in titres for several years, others, like lepto, maybe 6 months. Humans would be no different.

 

[Oddball]

What this thread needs is some bitchin' memes...

 

[XponentialChaos]

Ask him then. He will happily answer you

You can if you want. I was wondering if maybe I missed something that was said, but I don't think that's the case. Looks like we both read the same thing and came to different interpretations. Isn't the first time and won't be the last time that happens.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Shutting down the non-essential businesses, to my understanding, is up to the governors. They can do what they want and deal with those consequences.

If NH opens up and MA doesn’t, I ll be partying in NH tomorrow.

Go for it.

Well I am immune so it won’t bother me.

FYI

Be careful!

YOU MIGHT NOT BE IMMUNE!

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.
"There is no evidence yet that people who have had Covid-19 will not get a second infection," WHO said in a scientific brief published Friday.

What is herd immunity and why some think it could end the coronavirus pandemic
It cautions against governments that are considering issuing so-called "immunity passports" to people who have had Covid-19, assuming they are safe to resume normal life.

"At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an 'immunity passport' or 'risk-free certificate,' " WHO said.


Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove from WHO has previously said it's not known whether people who have been exposed to the virus become completely immune. The new WHO brief underscores that stance, and jibes with other scientific statements about the idea of developing immunity.

During a Friday briefing, the Infectious Diseases Society of America warned that not enough is known about antibody testing to assume immunity.

Dr. Mary Hayden, spokesperson for IDSA and chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Rush University Medical Center, said, "We do not know whether or not patients who have these antibodies are still at risk of reinfection with Covid-19. At this point, I think we have to assume that they could be at risk of reinfection."

"We don't know even if the antibodies are protective, what degree of protection they provide, so it could be complete, it could be partial, or how long the antibodies last," Hayden added, "We know that antibody responses wane over time."

The society is "recommending that people with antibodies not change their behavior in any way, continue social distancing etc. And we think that this is a really important point to emphasize because we're concerned that if this could be present, that these antibodies could be misinterpreted, people could put themselves at unnecessary risk," Hayden said.

WHO says no evidence shows that having coronavirus prevents a second infection | CNN

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.

www.cnn.com

https://health.usnews.com/conditions/articles/if-i-get-coronavirus-can-i-get-it-again

Then what Is the point of the vaccine? LOL that’s how it works. Giving a little to build immunity.

True...but be careful. Different virus confer different levels oof immunity. No one knows how long titers last or how effective they are yet.

Mass General told me that they believe my plasma can help others. They have a pretty strong worldwide rep. Every other COVID once you get it you build an immunity. This may be super COVID but I doubt it.

 

[Oddball]

Shutting down the non-essential businesses, to my understanding, is up to the governors. They can do what they want and deal with those consequences.

If NH opens up and MA doesn’t, I ll be partying in NH tomorrow.

Go for it.

Well I am immune so it won’t bother me.

FYI

Be careful!

YOU MIGHT NOT BE IMMUNE!

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.
"There is no evidence yet that people who have had Covid-19 will not get a second infection," WHO said in a scientific brief published Friday.

What is herd immunity and why some think it could end the coronavirus pandemic
It cautions against governments that are considering issuing so-called "immunity passports" to people who have had Covid-19, assuming they are safe to resume normal life.

"At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an 'immunity passport' or 'risk-free certificate,' " WHO said.


Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove from WHO has previously said it's not known whether people who have been exposed to the virus become completely immune. The new WHO brief underscores that stance, and jibes with other scientific statements about the idea of developing immunity.

During a Friday briefing, the Infectious Diseases Society of America warned that not enough is known about antibody testing to assume immunity.

Dr. Mary Hayden, spokesperson for IDSA and chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Rush University Medical Center, said, "We do not know whether or not patients who have these antibodies are still at risk of reinfection with Covid-19. At this point, I think we have to assume that they could be at risk of reinfection."

"We don't know even if the antibodies are protective, what degree of protection they provide, so it could be complete, it could be partial, or how long the antibodies last," Hayden added, "We know that antibody responses wane over time."

The society is "recommending that people with antibodies not change their behavior in any way, continue social distancing etc. And we think that this is a really important point to emphasize because we're concerned that if this could be present, that these antibodies could be misinterpreted, people could put themselves at unnecessary risk," Hayden said.

WHO says no evidence shows that having coronavirus prevents a second infection | CNN

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.

www.cnn.com

The WHO is suspect at this time. None of thier information has been corroborated as of yet. After their BS of being in China's pocket I dont trust a damn word from them.

WHO is beyond suspect....They are a direct disinformation and propaganda organization.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Ask him then. He will happily answer you

You can if you want. I was wondering if maybe I missed something that was said, but I don't think that's the case. Looks like we both read the same thing and came to different interpretations. Isn't the first time and won't be the last time that happens.

Yeah. I am Right and you’re wrong. You also don’t believe in immunity and if that’s the case how would a vaccine work?

 

[Marion Morrison]

To me it's looking like we tanked the economy when what was really needed was a nationwide blood drive.

This is bullshit! They knew interferon was useful from the get-go.

All the ICLEI shills in the government were behind the shutdown stuff.

 

[Coyote]

Shutting down the non-essential businesses, to my understanding, is up to the governors. They can do what they want and deal with those consequences.

If NH opens up and MA doesn’t, I ll be partying in NH tomorrow.

Go for it.

Well I am immune so it won’t bother me.

FYI

Be careful!

YOU MIGHT NOT BE IMMUNE!

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.
"There is no evidence yet that people who have had Covid-19 will not get a second infection," WHO said in a scientific brief published Friday.

What is herd immunity and why some think it could end the coronavirus pandemic
It cautions against governments that are considering issuing so-called "immunity passports" to people who have had Covid-19, assuming they are safe to resume normal life.

"At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an 'immunity passport' or 'risk-free certificate,' " WHO said.


Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove from WHO has previously said it's not known whether people who have been exposed to the virus become completely immune. The new WHO brief underscores that stance, and jibes with other scientific statements about the idea of developing immunity.

During a Friday briefing, the Infectious Diseases Society of America warned that not enough is known about antibody testing to assume immunity.

Dr. Mary Hayden, spokesperson for IDSA and chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Rush University Medical Center, said, "We do not know whether or not patients who have these antibodies are still at risk of reinfection with Covid-19. At this point, I think we have to assume that they could be at risk of reinfection."

"We don't know even if the antibodies are protective, what degree of protection they provide, so it could be complete, it could be partial, or how long the antibodies last," Hayden added, "We know that antibody responses wane over time."

The society is "recommending that people with antibodies not change their behavior in any way, continue social distancing etc. And we think that this is a really important point to emphasize because we're concerned that if this could be present, that these antibodies could be misinterpreted, people could put themselves at unnecessary risk," Hayden said.

WHO says no evidence shows that having coronavirus prevents a second infection | CNN

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.

www.cnn.com

The WHO is suspect at this time. None of thier information has been corroborated as of yet. After their BS of being in China's pocket I dont trust a damn word from them.

None has been corroborated?

 

[Oddball]

 

[Marion Morrison]

Gah! The damage is done, where do we go from here!

 

[Oddball]

Ask him then. He will happily answer you

You can if you want. I was wondering if maybe I missed something that was said, but I don't think that's the case. Looks like we both read the same thing and came to different interpretations. Isn't the first time and won't be the last time that happens.

Yeah. I am Right and you’re wrong. You also don’t believe in immunity and if that’s the case how would a vaccine work?

Huuuuuuuurrrrrrrr.......duuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......

 

[Billy_Bob]

Shutting down the non-essential businesses, to my understanding, is up to the governors. They can do what they want and deal with those consequences.

If NH opens up and MA doesn’t, I ll be partying in NH tomorrow.

Go for it.

Well I am immune so it won’t bother me.

FYI

Be careful!

YOU MIGHT NOT BE IMMUNE!

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.
"There is no evidence yet that people who have had Covid-19 will not get a second infection," WHO said in a scientific brief published Friday.

What is herd immunity and why some think it could end the coronavirus pandemic
It cautions against governments that are considering issuing so-called "immunity passports" to people who have had Covid-19, assuming they are safe to resume normal life.

"At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an 'immunity passport' or 'risk-free certificate,' " WHO said.


Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove from WHO has previously said it's not known whether people who have been exposed to the virus become completely immune. The new WHO brief underscores that stance, and jibes with other scientific statements about the idea of developing immunity.

During a Friday briefing, the Infectious Diseases Society of America warned that not enough is known about antibody testing to assume immunity.

Dr. Mary Hayden, spokesperson for IDSA and chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Rush University Medical Center, said, "We do not know whether or not patients who have these antibodies are still at risk of reinfection with Covid-19. At this point, I think we have to assume that they could be at risk of reinfection."

"We don't know even if the antibodies are protective, what degree of protection they provide, so it could be complete, it could be partial, or how long the antibodies last," Hayden added, "We know that antibody responses wane over time."

The society is "recommending that people with antibodies not change their behavior in any way, continue social distancing etc. And we think that this is a really important point to emphasize because we're concerned that if this could be present, that these antibodies could be misinterpreted, people could put themselves at unnecessary risk," Hayden said.

WHO says no evidence shows that having coronavirus prevents a second infection | CNN

The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.

www.cnn.com

https://health.usnews.com/conditions/articles/if-i-get-coronavirus-can-i-get-it-again

Then what Is the point of the vaccine? LOL that’s how it works. Giving a little to build immunity.

True...but be careful. Different virus confer different levels oof immunity. No one knows how long titers last or how effective they are yet.

Mass General told me that they believe my plasma can help others. They have a pretty strong worldwide rep. Every other COVID once you get it you build an immunity. This may be super COVID but I doubt it.

There are two starins of COVID-19-L and COVID-19-S.

THe S strain is much more aggressive than the L strain. They are looking for as many as they can get of the S strain as it works on both strains.

 

[Marion Morrison]

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You know I'm stealing that, right?

Only the best memes.

 

[Coyote]

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I don’t trust anything Trump (the government) tells me.

 

[Oddball]

Gah! The damage is done, where do we go from here!

We go to work, then go to the bar to help the bartenders, cooks, and servers get their lives back.

 

[Oddball]

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I don’t trust anything Trump (the government) tells me.

You trust what your team tells you....Sucker.